Re: [CentOS] Mounting /var directory to a new HardDisk

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

On Jan 18, 2008 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For sure you will be able to mount /var on your new disk

Thank you very much for it.
>
> but not before you boot single user and copy all the contents across manually 
> and then modify /etc/fstab to reflect the new location of /var.

If I boot from single user mode and copy /var directory to new
hardiisk, What will happent to permissions?

Then, What should I do to /var directory on OLD HardDisk. Should I
leave it alone or Should I rename it or Should I delete it?

Remember, Curently / and /opt and /boot and /swap  are MOUNTED. i.e
/var is under  / partition.

here is my /etc/fstab

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/fstab
LABEL=/ /   ext3defaults1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot   ext3defaults1 2
none/dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
LABEL=/opt  /optext3defaults1 2
none/proc   procdefaults0 0
none/dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
/dev/sda2   swapswapdefaults0 0
/dev/sda3   swapswapdefaults0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  udf,iso9660
noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy autonoauto,owner,kudzu 0 0


>
> In my experience it is nigh-on impossible to *move* /var when a system is 
> running.

Noted.

> Hint : next time use LVM *even* if you only have 1 physical disk to start 
> with. It makes this sort of situation an non-event.

Yes , I aggree with you.



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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Olaf Mueller]

Niki Kovacs wrote:

> Olaf Mueller a écrit :
> 
>> Last time I saw something similar was when my harddisk get broken.
>> Are there any opcode entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg?
>> 
> Sorry I don't understand what "opcode entries" means (I'm not a
> native english speaker).
What I mean are error messages about your harddisk devices. Something
like: kernel: hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete
DataRequest } Dec 30 16:43:13 AE86 
kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Dec 30 16:43:13 AE86 kernel:
hda: status 
error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } Dec 30 ...


Search for opc in /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg


Good luck
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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Olaf Mueller]

Niki Kovacs wrote:

> Olaf Mueller a écrit :
> After I had installed the driver and fired up TWM, I wanted to test
> 3D abilities, so I typed 'glxgears' in TWM's xterm, but I got an
> error message about some missing GLX extension. I didn't investigate
> this further, since it's an install for an office user, and I
> thought, let's install and configure all needed apps, and we'll see
> for Compiz later (even the most serious SOHO users love Compiz) :oD
Maybe to disable dri and glx could solve the problem? For that
edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (example entry):

Section "Module"
 #Load  "glx"
 Load  "freetype"
 #Load  "dri"
EndSection


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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

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- "Niki Kovacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Olaf Mueller a écrit :
> 
> > Last time I saw something similar was when my harddisk get broken.
> Are
> > there any opcode entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg?
> > 
> Something crosses my mind: could it be related to a faulty video card?
> I 
> vaguely (very vaguely) remember having had similar troubles with an
> old 
> NVidia card a few years ago, and this is an old NVidia card.
> 
> I also remember something strange happening. Normally when I install a
> 
> desktop, I begin with a minimal bootable system (everything unchecked
> in 
> the installer). Then I 'yum groupinstall "X Window System"' and go on
> 
> configuring X. Only when TWM is working OK, I install some desktop 
> environment (GNOME, KDE, XFCE) and the apps on top.
> 
> After I had installed the driver and fired up TWM, I wanted to test 3D
> 
> abilities, so I typed 'glxgears' in TWM's xterm, but I got an error 
> message about some missing GLX extension. I didn't investigate this 
> further, since it's an install for an office user, and I thought,
> let's 
> install and configure all needed apps, and we'll see for Compiz later
> 
> (even the most serious SOHO users love Compiz) :oD
> 
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Niki,

It could be a faulty video card, however, I think the error message about no 
GLX extensions is standard when you are not running a proper 3D accelerated 
driver. Happy to be corrected.

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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Niki Kovacs]

Olaf Mueller a écrit :


Last time I saw something similar was when my harddisk get broken. Are
there any opcode entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg?

Something crosses my mind: could it be related to a faulty video card? I 
vaguely (very vaguely) remember having had similar troubles with an old 
NVidia card a few years ago, and this is an old NVidia card.


I also remember something strange happening. Normally when I install a 
desktop, I begin with a minimal bootable system (everything unchecked in 
the installer). Then I 'yum groupinstall "X Window System"' and go on 
configuring X. Only when TWM is working OK, I install some desktop 
environment (GNOME, KDE, XFCE) and the apps on top.


After I had installed the driver and fired up TWM, I wanted to test 3D 
abilities, so I typed 'glxgears' in TWM's xterm, but I got an error 
message about some missing GLX extension. I didn't investigate this 
further, since it's an install for an office user, and I thought, let's 
install and configure all needed apps, and we'll see for Compiz later 
(even the most serious SOHO users love Compiz) :oD


Niki

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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Niki Kovacs]

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Niki,

a lot of these type of issues are memory related. Run memtest to ensure that 
your RAM is OK.

Excellent idea! Besides, the client gets the feeling that he "gets value 
for money" when he watches Memtest's busy blue screen. In the meantime I 
can have some coffee and explain that "the utility is hunting down the 
bug but it may take some time" :oD


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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Niki Kovacs]

Olaf Mueller a écrit :


Last time I saw something similar was when my harddisk get broken. Are
there any opcode entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg?

Sorry I don't understand what "opcode entries" means (I'm not a native 
english speaker).

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Re: [CentOS] HP Autoloader

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> > Hi,
> > I need to backup data to an HP autoloader, it needs to be *full*
> > backups each time so using Amanda doesn’t make sense.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Can someone point me to what utilities to use to access the
> > autoloader, I would rather read up on this myself as my knowledge
> here
> > is very weak. I am moving this unit from a windows environment
> running
> > Backup Exec. I know all of those features won’t be available but I
> was
> > hoping to control in some predictable manner what tapes are used in
> > what order to effectively partition the loader.
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> Are you looking for suggestions on a complete backup solution which
> has autloader support or are you just after information about the
> tools ?
> 
> I've used bacula in production at a  few sites, it has all the
> enterprise features, except a good GUI ;-)
> 
> It can control autoloaders and do full backups each night etc.
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> http://bacula.org
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> Typically, people use 'mt' to control autoloaders from the CLI.
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I'm having a shocker today. I should have said 'mtx'.

Duh.

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Re: [CentOS] HP Autoloader

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- "Joseph L. Casale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I need to backup data to an HP autoloader, it needs to be *full*
> backups each time so using Amanda doesn’t make sense.
> 
> 
> 
> Can someone point me to what utilities to use to access the
> autoloader, I would rather read up on this myself as my knowledge here
> is very weak. I am moving this unit from a windows environment running
> Backup Exec. I know all of those features won’t be available but I was
> hoping to control in some predictable manner what tapes are used in
> what order to effectively partition the loader.
> 
> 
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> Thanks,
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Are you looking for suggestions on a complete backup solution which has 
autloader support or are you just after information about the tools ?

I've used bacula in production at a  few sites, it has all the enterprise 
features, except a good GUI ;-)

It can control autoloaders and do full backups each night etc.

http://bacula.org


Typically, people use 'mt' to control autoloaders from the CLI.


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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

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Niki Kovacs wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
>> Did/Can you get the customer to try 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' or similar
> I suggested Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, but that didn't work.
Last time I saw something similar was when my harddisk get broken. Are
there any opcode entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg?


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[CentOS] HP Autoloader

[Joseph L. Casale]

Hi,
I need to backup data to an HP autoloader, it needs to be *full* backups each 
time so using Amanda doesn't make sense.

Can someone point me to what utilities to use to access the autoloader, I would 
rather read up on this myself as my knowledge here is very weak. I am moving 
this unit from a windows environment running Backup Exec. I know all of those 
features won't be available but I was hoping to control in some predictable 
manner what tapes are used in what order to effectively partition the loader.

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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

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> > Did/Can you get the customer to try 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' or similar 
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> I suggested Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, but that didn't work.
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Niki,

a lot of these type of issues are memory related. Run memtest to ensure that 
your RAM is OK.

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Re: [CentOS] display resolution

[dny]

i guess i'm stuck with 800x600 now ???


On Jan 16, 2008 6:14 PM, dny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jan 15, 2008 4:33 PM, Ralph Angenendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > dny wrote:
> > > RgbPath "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/rgb"
> >
> > Haven't found that one in CentOS, you should be able to drop it.
> >
> > > FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> > > FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> > > FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
> >
> > Fonts are in /usr/share/X11/fonts on CentOS, but CentOS uses a
> > font server, so drop those lines and add:
> >
> > FontPath "unix/:7100"
> >
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> still not working.
> here's the error log:
> http://pastie.caboo.se/139483
>
> and, below is the xorg.conf that works on Centos 5.1 at 800x600.
>
>
> Vincent,
> i tried that 915resolution apps. seems nothing change.
>
>
> xorg.conf from centos 5.1
> # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "single head configuration"
> Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> Driver  "kbd"
> Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>
>  ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
> Identifier   "Monitor0"
> ModelName"Monitor 1280x1024"
>  ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC:
> HorizSync31.5 - 79.0
> VertRefresh  50.0 - 90.0
> Option  "dpms"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Videocard0"
> Driver  "i810"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Videocard0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth 16
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 24
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 16
> Modes"800x600" "640x480"
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Re: [CentOS] Mounting /var directory to a new HardDisk

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> For sure you will be able to mount /var on your new disk
> 
> but not before you boot single user and copy all the contents across
> manually and then modify /etc/fstab to reflect the new location of
> /var.
> 
> In my experience it is nigh-on impossible to *move* /var when a system
> is running.
> 
> Hint : next time use LVM *even* if you only have 1 physical disk to
> start with. It makes this sort of situation an non-event.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> - "Indunil Jayasooriya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a mailgw running Centos where trendmicro(IMSS) is installed.
> > it
> > works perfectly. Now, the problem is it is running out of Harddisk.
> > 
> > pls see below  and pay attention to / file system (/dev/sda6),
> where
> > only 1.3 gb is available. these are not Logical volums (LVM)
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17141]# df -h
> > FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/sda6 9.7G  7.9G  1.3G  87% /
> > /dev/sda1  99M  9.2M   85M  10% /boot
> > /dev/sda5  15G   11G  3.5G  75% /opt
> > none  627M 0  627M   0% /dev/shm
> > 
> > I checkd with du -h. then, I saw /var has 7.1 gb. So, Now I want to
> > know, If I plug a new harddisk and partion with fdisk and then
> format
> > that harddisk, will I able to mount /var directory to it ?
> > 
> > Your Ideas?
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Re: [CentOS] Mounting /var directory to a new HardDisk

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For sure you will be able to mount /var on your new disk

but not before you boot single user and copy all the contents across manually 
and then modify /etc/fstab to reflect the new location of /var.

In my experience it is nigh-on impossible to *move* /var when a system is 
running.

Hint : next time use LVM *even* if you only have 1 physical disk to start with. 
It makes this sort of situation an non-event.

Cheers.

- "Indunil Jayasooriya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a mailgw running Centos where trendmicro(IMSS) is installed.
> it
> works perfectly. Now, the problem is it is running out of Harddisk.
> 
> pls see below  and pay attention to / file system (/dev/sda6), where
> only 1.3 gb is available. these are not Logical volums (LVM)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17141]# df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda6 9.7G  7.9G  1.3G  87% /
> /dev/sda1  99M  9.2M   85M  10% /boot
> /dev/sda5  15G   11G  3.5G  75% /opt
> none  627M 0  627M   0% /dev/shm
> 
> I checkd with du -h. then, I saw /var has 7.1 gb. So, Now I want to
> know, If I plug a new harddisk and partion with fdisk and then format
> that harddisk, will I able to mount /var directory to it ?
> 
> Your Ideas?
> 
> 
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[CentOS] Mounting /var directory to a new HardDisk

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

Hi,

I have a mailgw running Centos where trendmicro(IMSS) is installed. it
works perfectly. Now, the problem is it is running out of Harddisk.

pls see below  and pay attention to / file system (/dev/sda6), where
only 1.3 gb is available. these are not Logical volums (LVM)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 17141]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6 9.7G  7.9G  1.3G  87% /
/dev/sda1  99M  9.2M   85M  10% /boot
/dev/sda5  15G   11G  3.5G  75% /opt
none  627M 0  627M   0% /dev/shm

I checkd with du -h. then, I saw /var has 7.1 gb. So, Now I want to
know, If I plug a new harddisk and partion with fdisk and then format
that harddisk, will I able to mount /var directory to it ?

Your Ideas?


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Re: [CentOS] Do you need to reboot after adding an entry to fstab?

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--On Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:34 PM -0500 Robert Moskowitz 
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man mount.davfs provides an entry in fstab for -t davfs.  Does simply
adding this into fstab complete the task, or is a reboot needed?  (or
some service restarted).


fstab is the list of mounts that will be done at boot, but you can manually 
invoke mount at any time with the same arguments supplied from a line in 
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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

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Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

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Did/Can you get the customer to try 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' or similar 


I suggested Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, but that didn't work.

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Re: [CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

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> I installed CentOS 5 on a client's machine yesterday afternoon. He 
> phoned me in the evening to tell me that his desktop "froze several 
> times upon him", and he had to hard-reboot it.
> 
> The last time this happened to me was with some exotic wireless card 
> whose driver had problems with SMP. But here, I have no wireless card.
> 
> So the only suspect is the NVidia Geforce 4000 card.
> 
> The only non-standard thing I did in my install was to install the 
> proprietary NVidia driver from nvidia.com. I knew afterwards this was
> 
> not a good thing to do, since the RPMForge repos do have an 
> nvidia-legacy drivers. I remembered this too late.
> 
> Anyway. I'm due to return to the client in a few hours time next 
> morning. I wonder if reverting from "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg.conf
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> solve my problem.
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> As for updates, the system is up to date. But I admit I'm a bit
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Did/Can you get the customer to try 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' or similar to see whether it 
may be that the Xserver has hung but not the OS ?

Also,  if they know the IP can you get them to attempt a ping from another 
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[CentOS] Desktop freeze... now what?

[Niki Kovacs]

Hi,

I installed CentOS 5 on a client's machine yesterday afternoon. He 
phoned me in the evening to tell me that his desktop "froze several 
times upon him", and he had to hard-reboot it.


The last time this happened to me was with some exotic wireless card 
whose driver had problems with SMP. But here, I have no wireless card. 
So the only suspect is the NVidia Geforce 4000 card.


The only non-standard thing I did in my install was to install the 
proprietary NVidia driver from nvidia.com. I knew afterwards this was 
not a good thing to do, since the RPMForge repos do have an 
nvidia-legacy drivers. I remembered this too late.


Anyway. I'm due to return to the client in a few hours time next 
morning. I wonder if reverting from "nvidia" to "nv" in xorg.conf could 
solve my problem.


As for updates, the system is up to date. But I admit I'm a bit clueless.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [CentOS] yum-security not working?

[Karanbir Singh]

Florin Andrei wrote:

Is yum-security supposed to work on CentOS too


No. Not yet, I have done some work to make it happen, but its not quite 
there yet.


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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Warren Young]

Centos wrote:

any thing specific for centos ?


If you build and test the package on CentOS and it works, then you've 
built a package for CentOS.  There's no need to make it any more 
difficult than that.


All that changes when you move an RPM from one system to another is how 
packages are named when you have dependencies, and what tools are 
available.  That's why it's important to build and test on the 
deployment platform.  When it works, it's done.

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Re: [CentOS] Do we have any Zimbra users on the list?

[Milton Calnek]

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- "Milton Calnek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've never looked at scalix, but I have installed zimbra on a test
system.

Unfortunately, I had to install from a tarball, which I really don't
like.

Instead of determining if you have the existing products (apache, 
clamav, slapd, tomcat, etc) and then configuring them, zimbra (the 
tarball) installs everything in /opt and I think it kills existing 
running apps.  So if you were running a web server before you
installed 
the tarball, you'd have to integrate your stuff with zimbra.



Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 11:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:

I am not asking for anyone to do anything mean, or to say anything
untrue, in fact, please don't.

I am asking that if you use Zimbra on CentOS (either the Free

Version or

the Network Version) that you let them know that you are.  If you

would

pay for Official support, let them know that too.

I'm thinking about deploying Zimbra for a customer, and perhaps even

for

myself.  But, I haven't figured out if I want to use Zimbra or

Scalix.

I haven't spent much time investigating, though.

Ranbir

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Why did you have to install from a tarball ? Were you not running an RPM based 
distro ? Even so, they have the following distros officially supported;


5.0.1 GA Release

* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Fedora 7 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Debian 4 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* MacOS X x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* openSUSE Linux 10.2 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Ubuntu 6.06 LTS x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent



And each one comes in the right package format, .deb .rpm etc etc. And it is 
simply a case of running 'install.sh' and it takes care of the rest.

Also, I actually like the fact that it wants its own machine to run in. Makes 
it more 'applicance' like and believe me it makes for much easier 
administration. In my case, zimbra server runs in a xen based VM, so there is 
no real issue with having to integrate other things with zimbra.

I also tried scalix a while back, but IMO, it was not as feature rich as zimbra 
and it felt a bit clunkier. Now that I'm using zimbra I don't think I'd even 
bother to look at scalix for at least a couple of years. YMMV.




I remember trying to install the RPM, but it didn't work.  I don't 
remember any details other than in order to get it working, I had to use 
the tarball.  Which btw goes against my Generally Acceptable 
Administrative Practices.


I might blow it away and install the rpm version... but probably not 
before I setup a virtual machine to put it on.


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[CentOS] Scalix Doesn't recommend Centos... Use Zimbra instead ;-)

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Look at their website 
(http://www.scalix.com/community/communityedition/index.php) , they state;

==

System Requirements
Operating Systems Supported Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.0 or 5.0
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9.0 or 10.0
Fedora 7*, CentOS 4*, 5*
SUSE Linux Open Source Software (OSS) 10.1*
RAM 1GB
Disk Space  200 MB for base installation>
+ Space for user mailboxes
+ Space for client caches equivalent to 15% of data being indexed
+ 30% additional for LVM snapshot
In-Place Upgrades

If you’ve deployed Community Edition on a currently supported platform, when 
you’re ready to upgrade, your upgrade experience will be seamless. Upgrading 
Community Edition on a supported platform to Small Business Edition or 
Enterprise Edition involves an in-place, license key-only upgrade that can be 
performed without any user disruption – even while users are logged in and 
active.
Download Now

Download Scalix Community Edition now and experience for yourself our 
feature-rich, commercial-grade email and calendaring solution.

*These distributions are not recommended for production because of the 
frequency of upgrades.

==



Notice the '*' next to centos 4 and 5 and then the footnote ? Obviously they 
are sadly mistaken, 'cause as we all know they are almost identical to the 
Redhat EL 4 and 5 and therefore have almost identical frequency of updates.


Who should set the record straight for them ? Someone with an email address 
that ends @centos.org no doubt.



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Re: [CentOS] Do we have any Zimbra users on the list?

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- "Milton Calnek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never looked at scalix, but I have installed zimbra on a test
> system.
> 
> Unfortunately, I had to install from a tarball, which I really don't
> like.
> 
> Instead of determining if you have the existing products (apache, 
> clamav, slapd, tomcat, etc) and then configuring them, zimbra (the 
> tarball) installs everything in /opt and I think it kills existing 
> running apps.  So if you were running a web server before you
> installed 
> the tarball, you'd have to integrate your stuff with zimbra.
> 
> 
> Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 11:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> I am not asking for anyone to do anything mean, or to say anything
> >> untrue, in fact, please don't.
> >>
> >> I am asking that if you use Zimbra on CentOS (either the Free
> Version or
> >> the Network Version) that you let them know that you are.  If you
> would
> >> pay for Official support, let them know that too.
> > 
> > I'm thinking about deploying Zimbra for a customer, and perhaps even
> for
> > myself.  But, I haven't figured out if I want to use Zimbra or
> Scalix.
> > I haven't spent much time investigating, though.
> > 
> > Ranbir
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Why did you have to install from a tarball ? Were you not running an RPM based 
distro ? Even so, they have the following distros officially supported;


5.0.1 GA Release

* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Red Hat Fedora 7 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Debian 4 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* MacOS X x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* openSUSE Linux 10.2 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 x86_64
  HTTP | Bittorrent
* Ubuntu 6.06 LTS x86
  HTTP | Bittorrent



And each one comes in the right package format, .deb .rpm etc etc. And it is 
simply a case of running 'install.sh' and it takes care of the rest.

Also, I actually like the fact that it wants its own machine to run in. Makes 
it more 'applicance' like and believe me it makes for much easier 
administration. In my case, zimbra server runs in a xen based VM, so there is 
no real issue with having to integrate other things with zimbra.

I also tried scalix a while back, but IMO, it was not as feature rich as zimbra 
and it felt a bit clunkier. Now that I'm using zimbra I don't think I'd even 
bother to look at scalix for at least a couple of years. YMMV.


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Re: [CentOS] mount -t devfs

[Robert Moskowitz]

MHR wrote:
On Jan 17, 2008 9:33 AM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:

> I have installed fuse-davfs2-1.2.2-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
>
> but mount -t davfs http://URL /mnt/dav
>
> gets
>
> /sbin/mount.davfs: group davfs2 does not exist
>
> what did I miss in the install???
>
Not really sure - the message says that "group davfs2 does not exist." 
- could that be the problem? 
What is meant by this message?  Do I need to create a group of davfs2 
(what command?)?


And mount -a -t davfs did not make a difference


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Re: [CentOS] Do you need to reboot after adding an entry to fstab?

[Jeff Larsen]

On Jan 17, 2008 2:11 PM, MHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2008 11:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > man mount.davfs provides an entry in fstab for -t davfs.  Does simply
> > adding this into fstab complete the task, or is a reboot needed?  (or
> > some service restarted).
> >
> IIRC, as long as you have the proper fs module loaded, all you need to do is
> mount the file system.

Maybe goes without saying, but 'mount -a' would be recommended as that
reads from fstab to perform the mount. We don't want any surprises on
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Re: [CentOS] mount -t devfs

[MHR]

On Jan 17, 2008 9:33 AM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed fuse-davfs2-1.2.2-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
>
> but mount -t davfs http://URL /mnt/dav
>
> gets
>
> /sbin/mount.davfs: group davfs2 does not exist
>
> what did I miss in the install???
>
Not really sure - the message says that "group davfs2 does not exist." -
could that be the problem?

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[CentOS] yum-security not working?

[Florin Andrei]

Is yum-security supposed to work on CentOS too, not only on Red Hat?
I installed it on a system that has not been updated in quite a while, 
so I know there are security updates for it, but it does not list any 
security-related updates:


# yum list-sec
Loading "security" plugin
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Loading "protectbase" plugin
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
list-sec done
# yum --security check-update
Loading "installonlyn" plugin
Loading "security" plugin
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Limiting package lists to security relevant ones
No packages needed, for security, 128 available
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Re: [CentOS] Do you need to reboot after adding an entry to fstab?

[MHR]

On Jan 17, 2008 11:34 AM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> man mount.davfs provides an entry in fstab for -t davfs.  Does simply
> adding this into fstab complete the task, or is a reboot needed?  (or
> some service restarted).
>
IIRC, as long as you have the proper fs module loaded, all you need to do is
mount the file system.

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[CentOS] Do you need to reboot after adding an entry to fstab?

[Robert Moskowitz]

man mount.davfs provides an entry in fstab for -t davfs.  Does simply 
adding this into fstab complete the task, or is a reboot needed?  (or 
some service restarted).



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RE: [CentOS] Add more space to LVM

[Ross S. W. Walker]

John R Pierce wrote:
> 
> Tim Verhoeven wrote:
> > This is perfectly possible with LVM. First add the HD (aka 
> the HW RAID
> > volume) to the OS. Then do a pvcreate on that disk so that 
> LVM can use
> > it. Then do a vgextend, this adds the disk to the volume group. A
> > vgdisplay should then show that you have again free space in the
> > volume group. Then you can do a lvextend and resize2fs as normal.
> >   
> 
> 
> and, get it all -exactly- right, or its krispy kritters for your FS.

May I also add that one should be aware of what type of physical
volumes your data is contained on too.

If your original data is on a software RAID array consisting of
internal drives, say /dev/md3, and you add an external enclosure
which is under hardware raid, say /dev/sde, you may want to just
move your data off the software RAID PV onto the hardware RAID
PV and remove the software RAID PV from the VG so you can rest
easy knowing that ALL of your data is on the managed hardware
RAID array and not split 60/40 between them. (Or keep the software
RAID array in the VG for volume snapshots only).

To do this I would do a pvmove of all data on /dev/md3 to /dev/sde
first, then remove /dev/md3 from the VG, pvremove /dev/md3 and
then lvextend your LV further on to PV /dev/sde.

Later if you add an addition storage enclosure on to the hardware
RAID I would still think about keeping separate LVs completely
on separate enclosures and pvmove LVs from one PV to another to
free up space before lvextending.

I always tell lvextend and lvcreate exactly which PVs to use
on the command line.

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Re: [CentOS] Add more space to LVM

[John R Pierce]

Tim Verhoeven wrote:

This is perfectly possible with LVM. First add the HD (aka the HW RAID
volume) to the OS. Then do a pvcreate on that disk so that LVM can use
it. Then do a vgextend, this adds the disk to the volume group. A
vgdisplay should then show that you have again free space in the
volume group. Then you can do a lvextend and resize2fs as normal.
  



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[CentOS] mount -t devfs

[Robert Moskowitz]

I have installed fuse-davfs2-1.2.2-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm

but mount -t davfs http://URL /mnt/dav

gets

/sbin/mount.davfs: group davfs2 does not exist

what did I miss in the install???


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Re: [CentOS] Do we have any Zimbra users on the list?

[Milton Calnek]

I've never looked at scalix, but I have installed zimbra on a test system.

Unfortunately, I had to install from a tarball, which I really don't like.

Instead of determining if you have the existing products (apache, 
clamav, slapd, tomcat, etc) and then configuring them, zimbra (the 
tarball) installs everything in /opt and I think it kills existing 
running apps.  So if you were running a web server before you installed 
the tarball, you'd have to integrate your stuff with zimbra.



Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 11:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:

I am not asking for anyone to do anything mean, or to say anything
untrue, in fact, please don't.

I am asking that if you use Zimbra on CentOS (either the Free Version or
the Network Version) that you let them know that you are.  If you would
pay for Official support, let them know that too.


I'm thinking about deploying Zimbra for a customer, and perhaps even for
myself.  But, I haven't figured out if I want to use Zimbra or Scalix.
I haven't spent much time investigating, though.

Ranbir


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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 11:40 -0400, Centos wrote:
> Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
> there is source file that has no rpm and we need to build the spec file 
> and srpm.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/BuildingPackagesGuide

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Re: [CentOS] Do we have any Zimbra users on the list?

[Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu]

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 11:14 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> I am not asking for anyone to do anything mean, or to say anything
> untrue, in fact, please don't.
> 
> I am asking that if you use Zimbra on CentOS (either the Free Version or
> the Network Version) that you let them know that you are.  If you would
> pay for Official support, let them know that too.

I'm thinking about deploying Zimbra for a customer, and perhaps even for
myself.  But, I haven't figured out if I want to use Zimbra or Scalix.
I haven't spent much time investigating, though.

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Re: [CentOS] Setenv missing

[Bill Campbell]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2008, Ern jura wrote:
>
>   When I tried to use the setenv command to set the default text editor
>   for subversion, I found it was missing how can I install it or enable
>   it in CentOS 5

The setenv command is used in csh and its descendants.

The corresponding command(s) that works on /bin/sh, bash, ksh, etc.  is:

# this works on /bin/sh and all it's children
PAGER='vim'
export PAGER

# this works on most, but not all
export PAGER='vim'

One can also use something like:

PAGER='vim' some_command

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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[jarmo]

Akemi Yagi kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 17. tammikuuta 2008):
> On Jan 17, 2008 7:55 AM, jarmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As well as Gimp, we using 2.2 and there is 2.4.x
>
> If you *must* use Gimp 2.4, it is possible to compile it from source
> (I have done that).  However, it needs library files that are newer
> than those in the distro.  So, I cannot recommend doing it unless you
> know exactly what you are doing.
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I'm every now and then handling pictures with gimp, but not any specialist
with it. Last summer bought my first digicam and have therefore some
intrest manipulating pictures...
Some basic things I can do with FOTOX http://kornelix.squarespace.com/fotox/

Yes, checked those library depencies and yes, not keen to start play with
them at the moment...

Anyway, I have got all the time to wait some official upgradings.

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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[jarmo]

Milton Calnek kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 17. tammikuuta 
2008):
> Jarmo,
>
> You could try a different repository...
> epel or one of the fedora's may work for you.

I do not like mix "too" much repos into system, rather keep system
as clean as "possible".
Have been so happy and enjoyed CENTOS for its stbility. So think,
adding "extras" into system I dig blood from my nose :D .

I think anyway there is some advantages with new versions, though more new 
bugs also :D .

Ok let's see, have to think

Jarmo

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Re: [CentOS] Setenv missing

[William L. Maltby]

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 11:35 -0500, William L. Maltby wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 08:16 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On Jan 17, 2008 8:00 AM, Ern jura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When I tried to use the setenv command to set the default text editor for
> > > subversion, I found it was missing how can I install it or enable it in
> > > CentOS 5
> 
> man setenv   ?  I think it'll do what's needed.

OOPS! Forgot which distro here. Do man on env and see if that won't do
it.

> 
> > 
> > You would need to use csh for that.  But, let's not start csh bashing here 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > Akemi
> > 
> 
> HTH

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[CentOS] need help in configuring iptables for smtp traffic

[ankush grover]

Hi Friends,


I am running Centos 5 64-bit on a Dell sever. I am trying to configure
iptables for smtp traffic for which I need some help/guidance.

The scenario is like this:

 On a linux box we have 3 public ips(eth1,eth2 and eth3) and 1 LAN
IP(eth0). 2 public IPs are from the same service provider and 1 is
from different service provider. eth3 and eth2 are from the same
public provider but currently we are using only eth2 public ip There
is a script which load balances the Internet Connection to both the
Service providers through ip rule


ip rule add from $publicip1 table 1
ip rule add from $publicip2 table 2

ip route add default scope global nexthop via $publicip1 dev eth1
weight 2 nexthop via $publicip2 dev eth2 weight 6

The problem we are facing is that we have 2 mx exchangers in our
domain. Both the exchangers receives/sends the mails from the public
ip like

mx1 will receive/sends mails through eth1  (another service provider)
mx2 will receive/sends mails through eth2  (another service provider)


Accepting mails from public ip
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d $publicip1 --dport 25 -j ACCEPT \



Natting rules
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d $smtpserver1 --dport 25   -j ACCEPT \

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING  -d $publicip1 -p tcp --dport 25 -j DNAT
--to $smtpserver1:25 \


Sending mails from smtpserver1 to publicip1

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s $smtpserver1 -d 0/0 -o eth1 -j SNAT
--to-source $publicip1

route add $smtpserver1 netmask 255.255.255.255 gw $publicip1
route add  $publicip1 gw $gw1


Some more iptables rules which ban sending mails from different
vlans/lans directly to public ips (both 1 and 2)
$IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp -s $lan1 -d $publicip1 --dport $SMTP -j DROP \


$IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp -s $lan2 -d $publicip1 --dport $SMTP -j DROP \


$IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp -s $lan3 -d $publicip1 --dport $SMTP -j DROP \


Same rules we have for publicip2.

But still we are not able to send emails from the $smtpserver running
in the local lan to outside. Our requirement is like this smtpserver1
which is running postfix should only send/receive emails through
publicip1 and smtpserver2 which is also running postfix should
sends/receive mails through publicip2.

We are able to receive emails both the public ips on the respective
smtp servers but when we are sending emails to outside world it is
sometimes going through both the public ips from a single smtp server.


Any suggestions/comments are most welcome


Thanks & Regards

Ankush Grover
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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[jarmo]

Alex White kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 17. tammikuuta 2008):
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:55:41 +0200

> Generally speaking, I believe there will be upgrades to those apps
> when upstream upgrades those apps. Someone will correct me if I'm
> wrong. If you really really want the updated versions, you can yum
> remove openoffice and install the rpms from OpenOffice.Org with
> minimal hassle if any at all. I did not have problems with the
> packages from OO.O; YMMV of course.
> Alex White

Tnx for reply

Yes, I looked that possibility earlier today, cosiderable choise...

Jarmo

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Re: [CentOS] Setenv missing

[William L. Maltby]

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 08:16 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2008 8:00 AM, Ern jura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I tried to use the setenv command to set the default text editor for
> > subversion, I found it was missing how can I install it or enable it in
> > CentOS 5

man setenv   ?  I think it'll do what's needed.

> 
> You would need to use csh for that.  But, let's not start csh bashing here ;-)
> 
> Akemi
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Webdev tools

[Robert Moskowitz]

Karanbir Singh wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I want a tool that will allow me to download files from a webdev 
site. All I have found is the other direction: my files to a webdav 
server.


cadaver : ( second hit on google for 'webdav client linux'. searching 
for 'cadaver centos' will tell you where you can get it from. ) 

I have that and missed its ablitly to mass get, but...

Can I mget and perserve the source files' dates? (haven't seen how, and 
ftp doesn't though wget does).


Can I syncronize with the server? That is only download what is new?

the man page does not give any details.


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Re: [CentOS] Setenv missing

[Akemi Yagi]

On Jan 17, 2008 8:00 AM, Ern jura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I tried to use the setenv command to set the default text editor for
> subversion, I found it was missing how can I install it or enable it in
> CentOS 5

You would need to use csh for that.  But, let's not start csh bashing here ;-)

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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[Akemi Yagi]

On Jan 17, 2008 7:55 AM, jarmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As well as Gimp, we using 2.2 and there is 2.4.x

If you *must* use Gimp 2.4, it is possible to compile it from source
(I have done that).  However, it needs library files that are newer
than those in the distro.  So, I cannot recommend doing it unless you
know exactly what you are doing.

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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[Milton Calnek]

Jarmo,

You could try a different repository...
epel or one of the fedora's may work for you.

I personally am not a fan of epel though.

You may be better of to simply get the source rpm's of the packages you 
want and build them yourself on your machine.



Alex White wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:55:41 +0200
jarmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:


Just wondering, what's the roadmap for OO to be upgraded.
I have version 2.0.4 and official is already in 2.3.x and suppose
in march there's going to be 2.4 version.

As well as Gimp, we using 2.2 and there is 2.4.x 


Anyone heard upstream roadmap for upgrading?

Jarmo


Generally speaking, I believe there will be upgrades to those apps
when upstream upgrades those apps. Someone will correct me if I'm
wrong. If you really really want the updated versions, you can yum
remove openoffice and install the rpms from OpenOffice.Org with
minimal hassle if any at all. I did not have problems with the
packages from OO.O; YMMV of course.

I am not sure for GIMP; however, sorry. I don't use it very often.

HTH

Alex White



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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Centos]

Thanks 
any thing specific for centos ? 

I was thinking may be Centos has its own doc !!!

Tim Verhoeven wrote:

  On Jan 17, 2008 4:40 PM, Centos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
there is source file that has no rpm and we need to build the spec file
and srpm.

  
  
Hi,

This page should help you : http://wiki.rpm.org/Docs

A second suggestion is to look at spec files from the different
repositories you can find online (CentOS, DAG/RPMForge, Atrpms, ...)

Regards,
Tim

  




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Re: [CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[Alex White]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:55:41 +0200
jarmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:

> Just wondering, what's the roadmap for OO to be upgraded.
> I have version 2.0.4 and official is already in 2.3.x and suppose
> in march there's going to be 2.4 version.
> 
> As well as Gimp, we using 2.2 and there is 2.4.x 
> 
> Anyone heard upstream roadmap for upgrading?
> 
> Jarmo

Generally speaking, I believe there will be upgrades to those apps
when upstream upgrades those apps. Someone will correct me if I'm
wrong. If you really really want the updated versions, you can yum
remove openoffice and install the rpms from OpenOffice.Org with
minimal hassle if any at all. I did not have problems with the
packages from OO.O; YMMV of course.

I am not sure for GIMP; however, sorry. I don't use it very often.

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Alex White]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:40:51 -0400
Centos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took out a #2 pencil and scribbled:

> Hello
> 
> Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
> there is source file that has no rpm and we need to build the
> spec file and srpm.
> 
> 
> Thanks

http://www.rpm.org/RPM-HOWTO/build.html

A quick google should give you some nice places to find such
information; however, Fedora Packaging Guidelines might be what
you're looking for. also, you can have a gander at some simple spec
files for some packages that are an easy ./configure && make &&
make install sorts.

The above link is from rpm.org and may or may not be what you're
looking for.

HTH

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[CentOS] Setenv missing

[Ern jura]

When I tried to use the setenv command to set the default text editor for
subversion, I found it was missing how can I install it or enable it in
CentOS 5
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Re: [CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Tim Verhoeven]

On Jan 17, 2008 4:40 PM, Centos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
> there is source file that has no rpm and we need to build the spec file
> and srpm.

Hi,

This page should help you : http://wiki.rpm.org/Docs

A second suggestion is to look at spec files from the different
repositories you can find online (CentOS, DAG/RPMForge, Atrpms, ...)

Regards,
Tim

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[CentOS] Openoffice.org Gimp

[jarmo]

Just wondering, what's the roadmap for OO to be upgraded.
I have version 2.0.4 and official is already in 2.3.x and suppose
in march there's going to be 2.4 version.

As well as Gimp, we using 2.2 and there is 2.4.x 

Anyone heard upstream roadmap for upgrading?

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[CentOS] build rpm from source code

[Centos]

Hello

Is there any good and quick document on building spec file.
there is source file that has no rpm and we need to build the spec file 
and srpm.



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RE: [CentOS] Add more space to LVM

[Todd Reed]

Thanks Tim. Just needed some reassurance that I was on the right track!

--Todd

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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Add more space to LVM

On Jan 17, 2008 4:32 PM, Todd Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a database server that is running out of space.  All my
databases are
> being stored in a 80G /opt partition.  Because I'm using LVM, wouldn't
I be
> able to pop the HDDs (a h/w raid volume) in, add it to the LVM, and
resize
> my ext3 /opt partition?  Everything that I've been reading says this
is
> possible, but I'm not sure.  Has anyone done this and are there any
pitfalls
> to watch out for?  Is there a better way?  I've thought about just
> rebuilding the server and restoring the databases from a backup on the
new
> setup.  Any suggestions on proper path would be appreciated.  I'm
running
> the current version of CentOS 5.

Hi,

This is perfectly possible with LVM. First add the HD (aka the HW RAID
volume) to the OS. Then do a pvcreate on that disk so that LVM can use
it. Then do a vgextend, this adds the disk to the volume group. A
vgdisplay should then show that you have again free space in the
volume group. Then you can do a lvextend and resize2fs as normal.

Regards,
Tim

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Re: [CentOS] Add more space to LVM

[Tim Verhoeven]

On Jan 17, 2008 4:32 PM, Todd Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a database server that is running out of space.  All my databases are
> being stored in a 80G /opt partition.  Because I'm using LVM, wouldn't I be
> able to pop the HDDs (a h/w raid volume) in, add it to the LVM, and resize
> my ext3 /opt partition?  Everything that I've been reading says this is
> possible, but I'm not sure.  Has anyone done this and are there any pitfalls
> to watch out for?  Is there a better way?  I've thought about just
> rebuilding the server and restoring the databases from a backup on the new
> setup.  Any suggestions on proper path would be appreciated.  I'm running
> the current version of CentOS 5.

Hi,

This is perfectly possible with LVM. First add the HD (aka the HW RAID
volume) to the OS. Then do a pvcreate on that disk so that LVM can use
it. Then do a vgextend, this adds the disk to the volume group. A
vgdisplay should then show that you have again free space in the
volume group. Then you can do a lvextend and resize2fs as normal.

Regards,
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[CentOS] Add more space to LVM

[Todd Reed]

I have a database server that is running out of space.  All my databases
are being stored in a 80G /opt partition.  Because I'm using LVM,
wouldn't I be able to pop the HDDs (a h/w raid volume) in, add it to the
LVM, and resize my ext3 /opt partition?  Everything that I've been
reading says this is possible, but I'm not sure.  Has anyone done this
and are there any pitfalls to watch out for?  Is there a better way?
I've thought about just rebuilding the server and restoring the
databases from a backup on the new setup.  Any suggestions on proper
path would be appreciated.  I'm running the current version of CentOS 5.

 

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Webdev tools

[Karanbir Singh]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I want a tool that will allow me to download files from a webdev site.  
All I have found is the other direction:  my files to a webdav server.


cadaver : ( second hit on google for 'webdav client linux'. searching 
for 'cadaver centos' will tell you where you can get it from. )



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[CentOS] Webdev tools

[Robert Moskowitz]

I want a tool that will allow me to download files from a webdev site.  
All I have found is the other direction:  my files to a webdav server.


In particular (some of you might be interested) is the whole IEEE 802.11 
meeting documents webdav site:  https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/documents


https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/public/07/11-07-0767-00--new-802-11-working-group-documentation-system.ppt

explains the 'new' system.

http://dav.mentor.ieee.org:80/  is where you can do bulk download, but I 
need a tool for that


BTW, you cannot get draft or final standards docs from here.  You have 
to attend a meeting to get the password to the member's only section 
where the standards docs are  March meeting is in Orlando, FL.  See 
you there if you can make it!



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Re: [CentOS] Capturing Packets -- Ethereal

[Milton Calnek]

Chris Boyd wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 15:31 -0800, Al Sparks wrote:

From: Milton Calnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:50:47 PM
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The thing to do is to install wireshark on the system without X.

Then from a machine with X:
ssh -Xf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wireshark

Yours is the coolest answer, though the others were also helpful.


It's cool, but you have to contend with the traffic generated by the ssh
and X session overhead in your display and/or captured data, or exclude
the IP address of the X server from display.  This may or may not be an
issue for you.


Yah, thats a good point. X generates a lot of traffic.  If you're not on 
the localnet, you may not be able use this method.


In which case you should look into nx.  It allows you to make X 
connections over lower speed networks, but it may require that you run X 
on the remote machine... I don't have much experience with it (one of 
these days).


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Re: [CentOS] zend abi

[Michael A. Peters]

I need to make a correction - the zend abi (not api) has changed - but 
modules built against the old abi work in the new abi.


php 5.1.6 zend-abi = 20050922
php 5.2.5 zend-abi = 20060613
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Re: [CentOS] Re: PHP 5.2.5 when ?

[Michael A. Peters]

Morten Torstensen wrote:

Michael A. Peters wrote:
PHP is a module that adds functionality to Apache. The only parts of the 


PHP is the programming language that drives a large chunk of web 
applications out there. It is not just an apache module.
Granted. It's most common use is as an apache module, it can be used for 
several other things.


Back to the point though, PHP is not a major component of 
RHEL/CentOS. It the last part of a LAMP that gets installed, LAM does 
not need php, php needs LAM (well, you could use Windows, IIS, Oracle 
... so I guess technically not ... but anyway ...)


The point is that replacing PHP and NOT replacing all the other pieces 
of glue (apache php modules, mysql php modules ...) breaks support and 
introduces many unknowns into the system. Many websites would not work 
if you ran it on just LAM, as the code is written in PHP and PHP needs 
to interact with the other components. In my book PHP is a major part 
of a web server.
PHP is a major part of a web server, yes - but it is an easily 
replaceable component of CentOS without sacrificing the stability of 
CentOS. The php source RPM builds php, php-common, php-cli, and almost 
all of the php modules that are available to CentOS from the CentOS 
repositories. You rebuild a newer version, and you get a new set that 
bolts in in place of the old set.


PHP is a major component of LAMP and replacing it just because there 
is a new version of PHP out with some new features and maybe some 
bugfixes you don't need is NOT a good enough reason to go through all 
that hassle.

I agree. One should only upgrade when a new feature really is a necessity.
YMMV. The upstream provider will backport fixes that are important 
enough to backport. With an enterprise distro of Linux, you make the 
apps work with what is in the base distro, NOT the other way around.

That is not always the best solution.
The current problem I am solving by using php 5.2.5 can only be done in 
stock CentOS 5 by using perl. PHP does not have the functionality and 
the pecl extension that does requires php 5.2.x. Maybe that pecl 
extension could be ported to work in 5.1.x but it hasn't been and I 
don't feel qualified to do it, nor am I willing to pay a programmer to 
do it when there is a simple solution - use php 5.2.x.


You can of course do whatever you want with the computers you control, 
but I really disagree that PHP is a minor component and that building 
your own is easy and with no consequences to talk about.

I never said there are no consequences.
The biggest consequence - RHEL/CentOS will not support it.
However - reverting to CentOS php is as easy as a yum remove followed by 
a yum install and restarting the web server.


Also note that on the repo page where I make my build available, I tell 
users they are probably better off with the stock php - because they 
probably are. There are situations where the stock php does not do what 
you need it to do, and in those cases, the drawbacks of losing upstream 
support may be outweighed by the benefit of having your stable CentOS 
LAMP do what you need it to do.


If the support cycle of Fedora wasn't so darned short, perhaps Fedora 
would be better for people who need a newer PHP - but Fedora's life 
cycle is so short that by the time it is robust it is near EOL. The 
fallout of that decision by the Fedora team is that people who need a 
long lasting distribution with just a few components like PHP updated 
are going to use CentOS with those few components updated. That may not 
be what you consider to be "Enterprise Linux" but one of the major 
strong points of FOSS is that you don't need to wait for a vendor to 
patch something or provide function you need.


PHP is a relatively low risk component to update if the update is 
packaged correctly. It's not no risk, but it is a low risk update.


MySQL on the other hand is not - since there are several apps that link 
against it. LDAP is not because there are several apps that link against 
it. Apache is not because there are several apps that link against it. 
Etc. - but php from 5.1.6 to 5.2.5 is a fairly straight forward 
replacement. There are not a lot of changes that require change of 
existing code to properly run, and the vast majority of binary modules 
just work as the zend api has not changed.


Most of the 3rd party php web applications out there have been tested in 
5.2.x for some time. Not all have, but those that don't work probably 
have problems in 5.1.6 as well (these would primarily be web apps that 
still want php 4)

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[CentOS] Ques about 5 vs. 3 in CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 35, Issue 9

[William L. Maltby]

I don't know if I'm brain damaged this A.M. or what, but I can't figure
(recall?) why this summary says CentOS 5 in the "Today's Topics", has
"el5" and "centos.3" as well in the md5sum.

Gentle chides for being dense this morning are accepted.

TIA

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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0008 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0008.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
2baa9daa306744b9917399af2627722d  httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.x86_64.rpm
72380d45be7936c73a677349d2c98907  httpd-devel-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.i386.rpm
2c01f371dab3c231676e411d4b48f68c  httpd-devel-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.x86_64.rpm
27fe66b8f22f8ee40ef933537f81cb2e  
httpd-manual-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.x86_64.rpm
8f6aa141b16cd63e117165aabdd52e56  mod_ssl-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.x86_64.rpm

Source:
5f700abd1d5bc018bf71e9873ce306fb  httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.src.rpm


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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:06:46 +
From: Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0008 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 httpd
Update
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0008 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0008.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
07307a92cb4b02019be889e8fbd2d477  httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.i386.rpm
b00743877cd4556d6a79b96bf8eaad28  httpd-devel-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.i386.rpm
e6da1bdd692796f4ddb7801242d7092e  httpd-manual-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.i386.rpm
2c8fe5b0c79d09b4a325c8656ae452c1  mod_ssl-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.i386.rpm

Source:
5f700abd1d5bc018bf71e9873ce306fb  httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] Re: PHP 5.2.5 when ?

[Morten Torstensen]

Michael A. Peters wrote:
PHP is a module that adds functionality to Apache. The only parts of the 


PHP is the programming language that drives a large chunk of web 
applications out there. It is not just an apache module.


Back to the point though, PHP is not a major component of RHEL/CentOS. 
It the last part of a LAMP that gets installed, LAM does not need php, 
php needs LAM (well, you could use Windows, IIS, Oracle ... so I guess 
technically not ... but anyway ...)


The point is that replacing PHP and NOT replacing all the other pieces 
of glue (apache php modules, mysql php modules ...) breaks support and 
introduces many unknowns into the system. Many websites would not work 
if you ran it on just LAM, as the code is written in PHP and PHP needs 
to interact with the other components. In my book PHP is a major part of 
a web server.


PHP is a major component of LAMP and replacing it just because there is 
a new version of PHP out with some new features and maybe some bugfixes 
you don't need is NOT a good enough reason to go through all that 
hassle. YMMV. The upstream provider will backport fixes that are 
important enough to backport. With an enterprise distro of Linux, you 
make the apps work with what is in the base distro, NOT the other way 
around.


You can of course do whatever you want with the computers you control, 
but I really disagree that PHP is a minor component and that building 
your own is easy and with no consequences to talk about.


//Morten

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[CentOS] Re: ntpd stuck on stratum 16 = not synced

[Tony Mountifield]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sean Carolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The zeros in the "reach" column indicate that the server has been unable to
> > receive any packets from the upstream servers.
> > 
> > Is your server inside a firewall? If so, perhaps it is blocking NTP traffic.
> > You need to have it allow UDP port 123 in both directions. You don't need
> > port forwarding from outside to in, since all incoming packets will be 
> > replies
> > to outgoing packets.
> > 
> > If it is not inside a firewall, perhaps you have iptables on the server 
> > itself
> > blocking UDP port 123 traffic.
> 
> Fantastic, Tony.  This is the information I needed.  Our ISP does in fact 
> block UDP packets and I suspect this is why the sync is failing.
> 
> One question though - how come I can use ntpdate servername to update them by 
> hand?  Shouldn't that be blocked as well?

That depends. The ntpdate on my system uses a non-privileged UDP port as the
source port, and 123 as the destination. That means the reply from the external
server will be coming back to a non-privileged port (above 1024). The ntpd
daemon however uses 123 as both source and destination port, and therefore so
will replies to it.

Maybe the ISP allows incoming UDP packets to non-privileged ports but not to
low port numbers like 123.

Cheers
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