Re: [CentOS] Problem mounting failed drive.

2008-05-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote on Sat, 3 May 2008 23:02:23 -0500:

 Anyhow I rebuilt a 2nd server, and tested and notice the same, even on a
 working systems I cannot mount the drives in another system??

It may help if you showed what you actually do.

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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ralph Angenendt wrote on Sun, 4 May 2008 10:22:11 +0200:

 In other words: They don't want your money. If I were you, I'd respect
 that. Make yourself heard over at Netflix, though.

I remember about the Netflix format from before 2000. It's a very low 
bandwidth format with really bad quality. AFAIK it was mainly porn sites 
using it. I thought it had died out since long.

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RE: [CentOS] Problem mounting failed drive.

2008-05-04 Thread Andrew @ ATM Logic
  Anyhow I rebuilt a 2nd server, and tested and notice the 
 same, even on 
  a working systems I cannot mount the drives in another system??
 
 It may help if you showed what you actually do.
 
 Kai

I wish I had the energy to do that, spent 8 hours on it already.

If someone knows why I cannot mount (a basic IDE, Single NON-Raid) hda2 or
hdc2 drive in any other version of Linux (or windows... Really not picky
anymore) or how to export the entire contents of hda2 or hdc2 when mounted
with text rescue to maybe FTP or how to connect to the box with SSH?  That
would be great 

Other than that... I spent 8 hrs Googleing, editing Grub, copied /boot from
a working system to /boot of the failed system, ran fsck on /dev/hda1,
edited fstab to show hda1 not md1 (no idea why the ... It thinks it's a
raid...), ran fdisk changed file system to 83 (Linux) from Auto detect raid.
Good chance I may have screwed up something that may have otherwize worked,
however... As far as I can see I am no further behind.  I can still mount
and see my data with text rescue and the only thing I moved was going from
a NON working system with a Grub Error 25, to a system that boots with a
Kennel panic 22.  As mentioned, I have the system up and running now (on a
new drive) with the old drive installed, but not mounted.

Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Matt Shields
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote on Sun, 4 May 2008 10:22:11 +0200:


   In other words: They don't want your money. If I were you, I'd respect
   that. Make yourself heard over at Netflix, though.

  I remember about the Netflix format from before 2000. It's a very low
  bandwidth format with really bad quality. AFAIK it was mainly porn sites
  using it. I thought it had died out since long.

  Kai


Netflix only started doing on demand movies about a year ago, and from
what I remember when I had the service it wasn't all that bad.  It
looked great on a laptop, and on my 720p 37 HDTV it looked better
than normal tv, but not as good as an HD program.

I agree with Ralph, complain to them, I know I did.  Unfortunately
they probably don't think there are enough Linux users to justify
providing service to us.  I'm just really surprised they haven't
provided service to Mac users, the new Quicktime format actually has
better compression rates than any of the WMV/WMA formats.

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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Matt Shields
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Kevin Krieser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  On May 4, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Matt Shields wrote:


  On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   Ralph Angenendt wrote on Sun, 4 May 2008 10:22:11 +0200:
  
  
  
In other words: They don't want your money. If I were you, I'd respect
that. Make yourself heard over at Netflix, though.
   
  
   I remember about the Netflix format from before 2000. It's a very low
   bandwidth format with really bad quality. AFAIK it was mainly porn sites
   using it. I thought it had died out since long.
  
   Kai
  
  
 
  Netflix only started doing on demand movies about a year ago, and from
  what I remember when I had the service it wasn't all that bad.  It
  looked great on a laptop, and on my 720p 37 HDTV it looked better
  than normal tv, but not as good as an HD program.
 
  I agree with Ralph, complain to them, I know I did.  Unfortunately
  they probably don't think there are enough Linux users to justify
  providing service to us.  I'm just really surprised they haven't
  provided service to Mac users, the new Quicktime format actually has
  better compression rates than any of the WMV/WMA formats.
 
 


  Apparently the problem with the Mac is the DRM again.  The studios are
 apparently all worried that people will keep copies of the old TV shows and
 movies downloaded.

  I have an old Mac Mini that I would like to use to watch some Netflix shows
 on (better than sitting in front of a computer, or watching it on a small
 laptop), but until it is supported I can't.  The Mini is hooked up to my TV
 directly.


Quicktime absolutely supports DRM, so what's the problem?  It's a
cheap company that's looking to get the most bang for the littlest
buck.  It wouldn't have taken much to have their system ask for the
users choice of player (WMP or QT), so the other remaining issue is
time to convert films to digital format and storage.  Since the
conversion is probably automated it shouldn't have taken that much
extra time.  So the only issue is disk space, which means that Netflix
was too cheap to spend the extra money to store a QT version of the
films so they could get the Mac users.  From what I remember of the
Netflix downloads they were looking for a cheap way to get ahead of
Blockbuster.  They looked good, but they did as little as possible,
which included a limited availability of movies.

And for those that say it's more complicated than I state, I have
built a site from ground up(programming and video encoding) which
hosted independent films in WMV and QT formats. For me the most
complicated part was converting films that were not on optical media
(like DVD), because if they were sent on tape format (DVCPRO, DV,
BetaCam, etc) you were limited to the speed of playback, whereas
digital you can rip faster.  When it came to storage, even at high def
quality storage was still cheap.  Even bandwidth for streaming was
quite cheap.
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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell

Matt Shields wrote:




 Apparently the problem with the Mac is the DRM again.  The studios are
apparently all worried that people will keep copies of the old TV shows and
movies downloaded.

 I have an old Mac Mini that I would like to use to watch some Netflix shows
on (better than sitting in front of a computer, or watching it on a small
laptop), but until it is supported I can't.  The Mini is hooked up to my TV
directly.



Quicktime absolutely supports DRM, so what's the problem?  It's a
cheap company that's looking to get the most bang for the littlest
buck. 


They claim to be working on mac/xbox/ps3 support but I don't think they 
have a target date.



And for those that say it's more complicated than I state, I have
built a site from ground up(programming and video encoding) which
hosted independent films in WMV and QT formats. For me the most
complicated part was converting films that were not on optical media
(like DVD), because if they were sent on tape format (DVCPRO, DV,
BetaCam, etc) you were limited to the speed of playback, whereas
digital you can rip faster.


It's probably more complicated to get the OK from the studios when 
streaming commercial content and everyone may be waiting on silverlight. 
 The current netflix system not only has drm that is only playable with 
the windows program, but they can tell if the speed of your download is 
faster than a real-time playback and will cancel your account if they 
think you are saving downloaded copies instead.


Meanwhile, XP under vmware or parallels will work on a mac if you happen 
to have a copy - not sure about linux.   But the selection they make 
available for streaming probably isn't worth setting up a system that 
way.  It is a small fraction of what they offer as dvds through the 
normal service.


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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Les Mikesell

Bill Campbell wrote:



 Apparently the problem with the Mac is the DRM again.  The studios are
apparently all worried that people will keep copies of the old TV shows and
movies downloaded.

 I have an old Mac Mini that I would like to use to watch some Netflix shows
on (better than sitting in front of a computer, or watching it on a small
laptop), but until it is supported I can't.  The Mini is hooked up to my TV
directly.

Quicktime absolutely supports DRM, so what's the problem?  It's a
cheap company that's looking to get the most bang for the littlest
buck.  It wouldn't have taken much to have their system ask for the
users choice of player (WMP or QT), so the other remaining issue is
time to convert films to digital format and storage.  Since the
conversion is probably automated it shouldn't have taken that much
extra time.  So the only issue is disk space, which means that Netflix
was too cheap to spend the extra money to store a QT version of the
films so they could get the Mac users.  From what I remember of the
Netflix downloads they were looking for a cheap way to get ahead of
Blockbuster.  They looked good, but they did as little as possible,
which included a limited availability of movies.


Unless I'm missing something (entirely possible with video
stuff), Macs have no problem viewing Windows media play files
using the free flip4mac program.


Netflix has its own add-in to windows media player that probably 
provides the authentication.  I don't think it will work with anything else.


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Re: [CentOS] Watching Netflix movies on CentOS

2008-05-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Morten Nilsen wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 12:55:08 +0200:

 I believe there are two entirely separate things called netflix

Yepp, must be so.

Kai

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[CentOS] Re: Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-04 Thread Scott Silva

on 5-2-2008 11:11 AM MHR spake the following:

I have a WinXP guest under VMWare on my CentOS 5.1 host and it can
access the CentOS printer(s) just fine.

However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be
able to print on the CentOS printer.  When I try to connect to the
printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?

Any suggestions?

(This slightly really is - it _is_ directly related to CentOS,
unlike my previous FC8 post)

Thanks.

mhr

Can the win98 box resolve the Centos host in any way?

Remember that older lanman clients can only see smb names of 12 characters and 
less.


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Re: [CentOS] Problem mounting failed drive.

2008-05-04 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Sunday 04 May 2008 21:15:53 Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote:
 I wish I had the energy to do that, spent 8 hours on it already.

 If someone knows why I cannot mount (a basic IDE, Single NON-Raid) hda2 or
 hdc2 drive in any other version of Linux (or windows... Really not picky
 anymore) or how to export the entire contents of hda2 or hdc2 when mounted
 with text rescue to maybe FTP or how to connect to the box with SSH? 
 That would be great

 Other than that... I spent 8 hrs Googleing, editing Grub, copied /boot from
 a working system to /boot of the failed system, ran fsck on /dev/hda1,
 edited fstab to show hda1 not md1 (no idea why the ... It thinks it's a
 raid...), ran fdisk changed file system to 83 (Linux) from Auto detect
 raid. Good chance I may have screwed up something that may have otherwize
 worked, however... As far as I can see I am no further behind.  I can still
 mount and see my data with text rescue and the only thing I moved was
 going from a NON working system with a Grub Error 25, to a system that
 boots with a Kennel panic 22.  As mentioned, I have the system up and
 running now (on a new drive) with the old drive installed, but not
 mounted.

Hi, if I'm not mistaken, you succeeded in 'mounting' your troubled drive using 
a rescue cd, but failed to do it by mounting it on another system?
Well, rescue cd provides some basic networking (ssh and ftp). If you don't 
have a dhcp, you can set the ip manually and scp any contents of your 
troubled drive to another system in the network. Unless the rescue cd cannot 
recognize your network card.

All basic troubleshooting tools are there on the rescue environment (fsck, 
ssh, ftp, etc).
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Re: [CentOS] ext3 filesystems larger than 8TB

2008-05-04 Thread Eduardo Silvestre
But... Can i do that just with centos install cd and 3ware drivers? Format the 
volumes with 8TB/9TB/10TB without problems?

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- Original Message -
From: Ray Van Dolson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: centos@centos.org
Sent: Sexta-feira, 2 de Maio de 2008 21H15m GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext3 filesystems larger than 8TB

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 04:09:48PM -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
  I think it *theoretically* should work as ext3 should to 16TB.
  However, we ran into issues with userland tools and such.  Possibly
  related to x86_64 vs i386 stuff, but in the end to avoid continued
  troubleshooting we just used centosplus + jfs.  Works 
  perfectly for our
  10TB filesystem.
 
 I'm curious what you store that you need 10TB of linear storage?
 
 I have had 4-6-8TB storage systems, but the storage was always
 divvied up between different applications.
 
 -Ross
 

It's almost all Oracle database dump files... one database by itself is
4.5TB!  Don't ask me what's in these things... :)

Ray
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[CentOS] wine question

2008-05-04 Thread fred smith
Before bothering the wine folks thought I'd ask here...

On my fully-updated (fully operational battle station), er, centos box I
seem to be able to  use the Centos-released version of wine to run the
software installers for quite a few apps. However, at no time during the
installer do I actually see any text in any of the dialogs that appear.
This makes it a little hard to choose options :)

Does anyone here have any experience using wine like this and perhaps
can tell me what I need to do to fix it?

for years I've had one of the huge sets of national geographic on CDROM,
and years ago it wouldn't even install on wine. I've just used acroread
to view the files in the past, but thought I'd see today if the wine
i've got will install it. Yes, it seems to, but it's hard to tell what
choices I made. For example, it wont' actually run (now that it is
installed) unless I register it, which apparently is done as part of the
installation. Before I go run the installer again and see if I can
fake my way through registration I'd like to see if there's a way to
tweak Wine so it'll let me see the text in the installer windows (and
the legends on the buttons).

Thanks!
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Re: Subject: [CentOS] yum update did not update kernel on one box

2008-05-04 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 03 May 2008, Kai Schaetzl maillists AT conactive.com wrote:
Message: 9
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 16:31:50 +0200
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Lanny Marcus wrote on Sat, 3 May 2008 07:28:10 -0500:
 Linux compaq1300.HOMELAN 2.6.18-8.el5

Ok. I just asked because you never mentioned you had actually checked. 
Just a kernel missing when you update is not proof ;-)
I see that you have priority protections in place. Disable all your
extra repos, then disable the protections (basically go back to your
inital repo setup) and then do a check-update. You are using the
mirrorlist and not a specific CentOS mirror, do you?

Kai: Thank you.  I will do that, ASAP. Either *very* early some morning,
before my wife is using her box, or when she's not home. I am not using
a specific mirror. The other boxes also have priority working and yum
gives the message about 259 (?) packages are protected and the Kernel
updates on them were OK. However, as I am typing this, I suspect that I
updated the Kernels on the other 2 boxes, by checking that they be
updated in PUP, with a couple of other packages, and not with the
blanket yum update as I did in her box, with the command line. 

BTW: I notice that your mail is missing any threading information, so
that it doesn't thread at all. I see that other people who use Gmail do
get the threading information, so there's probably some option not
activated in your Gmail account.

Thank you for pointing that out. I do not believe that is a setting in
Gmail. When I signed up for the list (3 years ago), I selected the
Digest, because we had to go back to dial up, when we moved here. We
have ADSL now, so I just changed that, to get individual emails from the
list. That should begin Monday or Tuesday, and, hopefully, my messages
will look better, when I reply. Also, during the past few days, with the
DVD reader problem and this one, I have also done some reading of the ML
Archives on the CentOS web site and copied messages there that I replied
to, before I received them in the Digest the next morning. Hopefully,
when I begin receiving individual messages, when I reply to them, the
threading will not get screwed up, as it is now. Lanny

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RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Hull-Richter
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:54 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be
 able to print on the CentOS printer.  When I try to connect to the
 printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box?

There was no hosts file - I edited the hosts.sam (sample) file and added
both machines to it.  But there must be more.

 Can you resolve a ping using the exact hostname you use for the printer

I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts
file, by host name as well.  However, Win98 can't see the network at all
- claims there isn't one.  It is running the M$ client for M$ networks
(and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting
properly initialized.  And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is
there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).

 (I assume the CentOS box emulates a Lanman printer? Never printed on a CentOS 
 box...).
 
'fraid I don't know what that means - the printer is just available to
be shared via samba and so should be visible on a M$ network (like in
the XP guest?).

I'm going to be playing with the Windows box RSN - when I'm done with
it, it will have Win98, XP Pro and, of course, CentOS, but there's a
fair amount of work to be done before that will work.

mhr


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[CentOS] Re: wine question

2008-05-04 Thread Timothy Kesten
 On my fully-updated (fully operational battle station), er, centos box I
 seem to be able to  use the Centos-released version of wine to run the
 software installers for quite a few apps. However, at no time during the
 installer do I actually see any text in any of the dialogs that appear.
 This makes it a little hard to choose options :)

I had (have) the same problem but got no answers/help on this list :-(

And I have no solution (beside using cross over from codeweaver).

Sorry
Timothy
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