Re: [CentOS-docs] modern-CentOS-1.10

2008-05-22 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On 5/21/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 Ralph could we modify the table that is in RecentChanges page top,
 adding it the messages classes (blue if possible) ? to see how it
 looks.

 Hmmm. I have to find out where that one gets generated. Let me look.

Ralph if you have write access in RecentChanges page, you should see
the edit link there, if so try editing that page and then update the
table code ... maybe  that save you some time.

Thanks for taking the time on that.

Also we have the update modern-CentOS-1.10.1 available on the wiki
page. The print.css was fixed.

Cheers,
al.
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] modern-CentOS-1.10

2008-05-22 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On 5/21/08, Alain Reguera Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/21/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 Does the rest look okay?

 Logo dimentions looks a bit different here compared to the previous
 one ... maybe that's what Karan noted ... I'll check that tonight.

Well that seems that was the display configuration or my eyes
yesterday ... could someone else check the modern-CentOS-1.10.svg file
and check logo dimensions please ? See:
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/modern-CentOS

Thanks,
al
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


[CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
Hi,

Take a look at:

http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/FrontPageStructure

We have put there some ideas about FrontPage reorganization ... What
do you think ?

Cheers,
al.
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Niels de Vos
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 Take a look at:
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/FrontPageStructure
 
 We have put there some ideas about FrontPage reorganization ... What
 do you think ?

I like it better than the current one. However I don't know if it's cool
on small displays.

Cheers,
Niels



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On 5/22/08, Niels de Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 Take a look at:

 http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/FrontPageStructure

 We have put there some ideas about FrontPage reorganization ... What
 do you think ?

 I like it better than the current one. However I don't know if it's cool
 on small displays.

Could you try the following url to see how it looks?:

http://wiki-m.centos.org/FrontPage

Cheers,
al.
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Niels de Vos
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 5/22/08, Niels de Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 Take a look at:

 http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/FrontPageStructure

 We have put there some ideas about FrontPage reorganization ... What
 do you think ?
 I like it better than the current one. However I don't know if it's cool
 on small displays.
 
 Could you try the following url to see how it looks?:
 
 http://wiki-m.centos.org/FrontPage

I'll try to do this tonight. Don't have my EeePC 7 here atm.



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Niels de Vos wrote:
  I'll try to do this tonight. Don't have my EeePC 7 here atm.
 
 Okay, I could try it on my phone, but ...

Works better than the one on wiki.centos.org, as the right and left
content areas are thinner than the ones on the wiki.

Cheers,

Ralph


pgphj7QiPV4ue.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Niels de Vos
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Niels de Vos wrote:
 I'll try to do this tonight. Don't have my EeePC 7 here atm.
 
 Okay, I could try it on my phone, but ...

On my BlackBerry 8100 it looks fine. Missing some color, but that's
normal behavior for my phone ;)



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Niels de Vos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Niels de Vos wrote:
 I'll try to do this tonight. Don't have my EeePC 7 here atm.

 Okay, I could try it on my phone, but ...

 On my BlackBerry 8100 it looks fine. Missing some color, but that's
 normal behavior for my phone ;)

Looks fine on my iPhone :-)  I even added a comment.

Akemi
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


Re: [CentOS-docs] modern-CentOS-1.10

2008-05-22 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On 5/22/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 5/21/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hmmm. I have to find out where that one gets generated. Let me look.

 Ralph if you have write access in RecentChanges page, you should see
 the edit link there, if so try editing that page and then update the
 table code ... maybe  that save you some time.

 There is no Edit link in the RecentChanges page, as that gets
 autogenerated somewhere.

I thought that some time ago too ... and almost turn crazy looking the
place where that table was generated but it really is included inside
the wikicode of RecentChanges page.

# Security --

# This is checked by some rather critical and potentially harmful actions,
# like despam or PackageInstaller action:
superuser = [u${WIKISUPERUSER}, ]

# IMPORTANT: grant yourself admin rights! replace YourName with
# your user name. See HelpOnAccessControlLists for more help.
# All acl_rights_xxx options must use unicode [Unicode]
acl_rights_default = uAll:read
acl_rights_before  = u${WIKISUPERUSER}:read,write,delete,revert,admin \
 uAdminGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin \
 uEditGroup:read,write,delete,revert

In a configuration like the above where $WIKISUPERUSER is
AlainRegueraDelgado the RecentChanges edit link appeared to me, so
that was how I could change the style of that table.

That's a cosmetic change not a big thing at all.

 Also we have the update modern-CentOS-1.10.1 available on the wiki
 page. The print.css was fixed.

 Going to take a look at that later.

You know, I noted the print.css error thanks to your previous output
yesterday :) .

Cheers,
al.
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


[CentOS-docs] Some ideas about FrontPage reorganization

2008-05-22 Thread R P Herrold

On Thu, 22 May 2008, Niels de Vos wrote:


Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

Take a look at:

http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/FrontPageStructure


I see a boring balanced two equal column block design;  from a 
matter of page layout, the old inverted L has disappeared from 
the net (think of the OLD CNN site, which formerly did this at 
800 pixels wide, and then added an advert column on the 
right)


Most current professional designs seem (froma quick survey) to 
have moved a 3 body panel design and top nav banners, with a 2 
unit left, and 1 unit right balance layout, balanced as to 
length.


(It is counterintuitive as from print design layout point of 
view to have the 'heavier' column block on the left; in 
print layout, one usually puts the heaver to the right for 
Western reading audiences). But, the way a browser's scroll 
bars usually default to favor the top and left, makes it 
sensible to put the weight on the left for web content. 
Setting it of with a bit of right and left whitespace for 
readibility is usually a good idea as well


TOP-NAV-section
sub-head band   (usually local context)
(whitespace or a rule)
left block | right
   | 
   | 
(whitespace or a rule)
bottom anchor

I experiment with layout from time to time:  compare:
http://www.trading-shim.org/faq/  (a left side anchor and 
text flowing away from the center)

with:
http://www.trading-shim.org/faq/?other-voices
(visible table layrou rules, but 'padding' within each box 
cell for readibility -- but resize the width of your browser 
and watch the authors entry for: Continuous Trade  get ugly 
;) )


-- Russ herrold
___
CentOS-docs mailing list
CentOS-docs@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs


[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0287-01: Important CentOS 2 i386 libxslt security update

2008-05-22 Thread John Newbigin

The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the
centos mirror:

RHSA-2008:0287-01 Important: libxslt security update

Files available:
libxslt-1.0.15-3.i386.rpm
libxslt-devel-1.0.15-3.i386.rpm
libxslt-python-1.0.15-3.i386.rpm

More details are available from the RedHat web site at
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html

The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches
is to run:
# yum update

--
John Newbigin
ITS Senior Analyst / Programmer
Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies
Swinburne University of Technology
Melbourne, Australia
http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin








___
CentOS-announce mailing list
CentOS-announce@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce


[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0492 Important CentOS 4 i386 gnutls Update

2008-05-22 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0492 Imporant

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0492.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

i386:
gnutls-1.0.20-4.el4_6.i386.rpm
gnutls-devel-1.0.20-4.el4_6.i386.rpm

src:
gnutls-1.0.20-4.el4_6.src.rpm



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-announce mailing list
CentOS-announce@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce


[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0492 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 gnutls Update

2008-05-22 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0492 Imporant

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0492.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

x86_64:
gnutls-1.0.20-4.el4_6.i386.rpm
gnutls-1.0.20-4.el4_6.x86_64.rpm
gnutls-devel-1.0.20-4.el4_6.x86_64.rpm

src:
gnutls-1.0.20-4.el4_6.src.rpm



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-announce mailing list
CentOS-announce@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce


[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 libxslt Update

2008-05-22 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0287 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0287.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

x86_64:
libxslt-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.i386.rpm
libxslt-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.x86_64.rpm
libxslt-devel-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.x86_64.rpm
libxslt-python-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.x86_64.rpm

src:
libxslt-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.src.rpm



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-announce mailing list
CentOS-announce@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce


[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 4 i386 libxslt Update

2008-05-22 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0287 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0287.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

i386:
libxslt-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.i386.rpm
libxslt-devel-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.i386.rpm
libxslt-python-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.i386.rpm

src:
libxslt-1.1.11-1.el4_6.1.src.rpm



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS-announce mailing list
CentOS-announce@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce


[CentOS-virt] my domU from jailtime.org using latests xen kernel freezees

2008-05-22 Thread David Hláčik
Hello, i will describe my approach

1) I have downloaded Centos5-64bit xen image from jailtime.org
2) I have created own swap image with 512MB file size
3) I have used same as dom0 kernel 2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen
4) I have mounted my image file and copied
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen
5) I have created custom ramdisk for domU with mkinitrd --with=xennet
--preload=xenblk /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen.domU.img `uname -r`
(uname -r = 2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen)
6) Here comes my config file :

kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen
ramdisk = /boot/initrd-2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen.domU.img

memory = 512
name = webdev

vcpus = 2

vif = [ '' ]

disk = [ 'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_root.img,sda1,w',
'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_swap.img,sda2,w' ]


root = /dev/sda1 ro

7) when i will run domU machine using xm create webdev_config.xen -c , it
will start booting
but it will got freeze , exactly at step after starting crond

Using config file ./webdev_config.xen.
Started domain webdev_labs_polarion_com
PCI: System does not support PCI
PCI: System does not support PCI
NetLabel: Initializing
NetLabel:  domain hash size = 128
NetLabel:  protocols = UNLABELED CIPSOv4
NetLabel:  unlabeled traffic allowed by default
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
TCP reno registered
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1211455944.113:1): initialized
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Initializing Cryptographic API
ksign: Installing public key data
Loading keyring
- Added public key 496E59E526CA1803
- User ID: CentOS (Kernel Module GPG key)
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
rtc: IRQ 8 is not free.
Non-volatile memory driver v1.2
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 4096 blocksize
Xen virtual console successfully installed as xvc0
Bootdata ok (command line is root=/dev/sda1 ro )
Linux version 2.6.18-53.1.19.el5xen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-14)) #1 SMP Wed May 7 08:51:05 EDT
2008
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 Xen:  - 2080 (usable)
No mptable found.
Built 1 zonelists.  Total pages: 133120
Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda1 ro
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 32768 bytes)
Xen reported: 2387.998 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Software IO TLB disabled
Memory: 499712k/532480k available (2358k kernel code, 23900k reserved, 1325k
data, 172k init)
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 5973.11 BogoMIPS
(lpj=11946225)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Initializing.
selinux_register_security:  Registering secondary module capability
Capability LSM initialized as secondary
Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
CPU: L1 I cache: 32K, L1 D cache: 32K
CPU: L2 cache: 4096K
CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
CPU: Processor Core ID: 2
(SMP-)alternatives turned off
Brought up 1 CPUs
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Grant table initialized
NET: Registered protocol family 16
ACPI Exception (utmutex-0262): AE_BAD_PARAMETER, Thread 377A0 could not
acquire Mutex [2] [20060707]
ACPI Exception (utmutex-0262): AE_BAD_PARAMETER, Thread 377A0 could not
acquire Mutex [2] [20060707]
Initializing CPU#1
migration_cost=2742
Brought up 2 CPUs
PCI: setting up Xen PCI frontend stub
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
xen_mem: Initialising balloon driver.
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
PCI: System does not support PCI
PCI: System does not support PCI
NetLabel: Initializing
NetLabel:  domain hash size = 128
NetLabel:  protocols = UNLABELED CIPSOv4
NetLabel:  unlabeled traffic allowed by default
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
TCP reno registered
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1211455944.113:1): initialized
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Initializing Cryptographic API
ksign: Installing public key data
Loading keyring
- Added public key 496E59E526CA1803
- User ID: CentOS (Kernel Module GPG key)
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler 

Re: {Phishing} {Disarmed} [CentOS-virt] my domU from jailtime.org using latests xen kernel freezees

2008-05-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
David Hláèik wrote on Thu, 22 May 2008 13:34:17 +0200:

 disk = [ 'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_root.img,sda1,w',
 'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_swap.img,sda2,w' ]

I suggest using file: instead of tap:aio (I haven't tested this, but it's 
been said here or elsewhere several times that it is faster than tap:aio)  
I've been using it all the time with good results.)

 
 
 root = /dev/sda1 ro

You do not need that, comment it out.

 
 7) when i will run domU machine using xm create webdev_config.xen -c , it
 will start booting
 but it will got freeze , exactly at step after starting crond

I saw the same when I created a Xen VM for CentOS 4.6. It freezes because 
there's no tty for the console. I'm not sure if this might be the same. The 
solution for the tty problem is explained here: 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/MoveNative2DomU#head-e05b7d1b0ec9d8ea4815
a6531065760ad1be3dde

Btw: *why* do you want to use a jailtime image if you can just 
install/kickstart a CentOS 5 VM in no time?

Kai

-- 
Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany
Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com



___
CentOS-virt mailing list
CentOS-virt@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt


Re: [CentOS-virt] my domU from jailtime.org using latests xen kernel freezees

2008-05-22 Thread Luke S Crawford
Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 David Hláèik wrote on Thu, 22 May 2008 13:34:17 +0200:
 
  disk = [ 'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_root.img,sda1,w',
  'tap:aio:/home/xen/webdev/webdev_swap.img,sda2,w' ]
 
 I suggest using file: instead of tap:aio (I haven't tested this, but it's 
 been said here or elsewhere several times that it is faster than tap:aio)  
 I've been using it all the time with good results.)

the tap driver is quite a bit faster than what file: does (file: 
mounts the file as a loopback device, and passes in the loopback device to
the DomU. the tap driver directly manipulates the blocks in the file.)

for more details:

http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix05/tech/general/full_papers/short_papers/warfield/warfield_html/index.html

  root = /dev/sda1 ro
 
 You do not need that, comment it out.

You need that if you are not using pygrub.  

 Btw: *why* do you want to use a jailtime image if you can just 
 install/kickstart a CentOS 5 VM in no time?

I agree this is probably the best course of action if you want CentOS 5. 
virt-install will give you a working system with pygrub (and 
I think pygrub is keen.) 
___
CentOS-virt mailing list
CentOS-virt@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt


Re: [CentOS-es] Arquitectura de un Nodo

2008-05-22 Thread O. T. Suarez
hola:

2008/5/22 Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Estimados colegas, alguien podría enviar a mi e-mail documentación de la
 arquitectura, tanto desde el punto de vista de hard, como de soft, de un
 nodo (Area de Servidores) para prestar servicios de todo tipo y realizar
 su control y supervisión.

se te olvido pedir el cafe :P

sls
osvaldo


 Agradecido de antemano y salu2,
 --
 ***
 * Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa ~ *
 * Profesor Asistente SUM Las Tunas(· ·)   *
 * Administrador de Red - Nodo BPA Las Tunas\V/*
 * Dirección Provincial BPA Las Tunas. Cuba//\\   *
 * Teléfono: 031-346156 ext.120   /( ' )\  *
 * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ^*-*^   *
 * Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *
 ***


 ___
 CentOS-es mailing list
 CentOS-es@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Arquitectura de un Nodo

2008-05-22 Thread Oscar Osta Pueyo

O. T. Suarez escribió:

hola:

2008/5/22 Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Estimados colegas, alguien podría enviar a mi e-mail documentación de la
arquitectura, tanto desde el punto de vista de hard, como de soft, de un
nodo (Area de Servidores) para prestar servicios de todo tipo y realizar
su control y supervisión.



se te olvido pedir el cafe :P

sls
osvaldo


  

Agradecido de antemano y salu2,
--
***
* Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa ~ *
* Profesor Asistente SUM Las Tunas(· ·)   *
* Administrador de Red - Nodo BPA Las Tunas\V/*
* Dirección Provincial BPA Las Tunas. Cuba//\\   *
* Teléfono: 031-346156 ext.120   /( ' )\  *
* E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ^*-*^   *
* Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *
***


___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es




___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
  

Perdona que no extienda más, pero no tengo mucho tiempo:
https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/

Saludos,
Oscar O.
___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Arquitectura de un Nodo

2008-05-22 Thread O. T. Suarez
Hola Jesús:

2008/5/22 Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Estimados colegas, alguien podría enviar a mi e-mail documentación de la
 arquitectura, tanto desde el punto de vista de hard, como de soft, de un
 nodo (Area de Servidores) para prestar servicios de todo tipo y realizar
 su control y supervisión.

La administración de un nodo es algo demasiado complicado como para
recibir una respuesta sencilla. Muchos de los suscritos a esta lista
han dedicado décadas (inclusive) a trabajar en este campo y aún estoy
seguro, admitirian que todos los dias tienen que estudiar algo nuevo
que aparecio.
Primero servicios. Que servicios ofreces tu nodo. Dices Area de
Servidores. Hay demasiados servicios que se pueden ofrecer. Servicios
de todo tipo es una definicion que no sirve. Recuerda que la gente que
trabaja con computadoras tienen a pensar en binario (y no puedo evitar
el cliche: hay 10 tipos de personas en este mundo, los que entienden
binario y los que no).
Algo que te va a ayudar es el modelo OSI. Aplicalo a los servicios. El
nodo da servicios en que capa? Las aplicaciones, protocolos van a
variar para cada caso. Enrutamiento y DNS van mas abajo que si
hablaramos de mensajeria y web. Un servidor de ficheros lo pondria mas
arriba (ya con autentificacion de usuarios casi seguro).
Ya tienes definidos los servicios (si el nodo ya existe, estoy seguro
estan definidos pero como no los mencionas empece desde cero).
Ahora vas para el hard y el soft. La capacidad de procesamiento, la
posibilidad de adquirir licencias y/o soporte tecnico, el presupuesto
de la empresa. No hay soluciones finales, solo de compromiso. Lo que
para uno es excelente para otro es imposible. Es una lista de CentOS,
utilizo CentOS, sin embargo, me he visto en la situación de recomendar
un servidor con MS Exchange como la mejor variante posible.
Trata de tener siempre el mejor hardware posible, lo barato sale caro
en un cuarto de servidores (bpa cierto?). En cuanto a sistema
operativo, la elección esta claro que sería siempre CentOS. A nivel de
empresa es una de las mejores  opciones. Digo empresa porque instalar
un sistema operativo en un servidor significa no tener que reiniciarlo
en años (ja! siento la envidia de los sysadmin Windows).
Mira Ubuntu, actualizan cada 6 meses, claro, nadie actualiza un
servidor cada 6 meses, ni un año, por eso liberaron la version LTS
(long  term support) que te garantiza 5 años de actualizaciones para
una misma version. No estaria mal, solo que ... Centos ya lo hace hoy
en dia por 7 años, Ubuntu esta por probar ese soporte, CentOS ya lo ha
demostrado en la práctica (bueno, gracias Red Hat!).
Si no encuentras diferencias entre 5 y 7 años, si, creeme, las hay.
Va quedando la parte de supervisión y control. Existen excelentes
herramientas para lograr esto pero una vez mas, depende de los
servicios que hayas implementado. Nagios, MRTG, Munin, Cacti, Zenoss
(o algo asi), el listado es realmente grande.
En UNIX existe una filosofia que es de tener programas pequeños, que
hagan solo una cosa pero que la hagan bien. Luego, puedes ir
concatenando esos programas para realizar una tarea compleja. Te
sugiero que apliques esa filosofia a la tarea a la que te estas
enfrentando.
Si trabajas en el BPA (como  indica tu email - Banco Popular de
Ahorro) me consta de que tenian un excelente nodo en la Habana.
Incluso solían tener un irc nacional. El nodo de tu provincia de
provincia deberá tener implementado ya un gran número de servicios.
Deberá existir una arquitectura ya establecida (hard/soft). Tienen un
jabber nacional por lo que veo en tu pie de firma.
Empieza por ahi, mira que es lo que ya existe, intenta entender lo que
 hay y responderte tu mismo las preguntas de porque se hizo asi. Si
encuentras algo que no te convence, pregunta en la lista. Quizas
encuentres algo que pueda mejorar tu nodo. Entender como funciona tu
nodo provincial te va a llevar a conocer y relacionarte con gente del
nodo central. Una vez que te conozcas tu nodo provincial como la palma
de tu mano (y ya conozcas a los del nodo central) empieza a averiguar
como funciona el nodo central.
Todas las dudas que tengas las puedes preguntar en esta lista. Pero te
va a ayudar mucho a obtener respuestas si haces preguntas concretas.
Saludos
Osvaldo
pd. lo del cafe fue una broma, pero bueno  en un nodo, nunca
menosprecies la importancia del cafe :P


 Agradecido de antemano y salu2,
 --
 ***
 * Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa ~ *
 * Profesor Asistente SUM Las Tunas(· ·)   *
 * Administrador de Red - Nodo BPA Las Tunas\V/*
 * Dirección Provincial BPA Las Tunas. Cuba//\\   *
 * Teléfono: 031-346156 ext.120   /( ' )\  *
 * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ^*-*^   *
 * Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *
 ***


 ___
 CentOS-es mailing list
 

Re: [CentOS-es] Arquitectura de un Nodo

2008-05-22 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez

O. T. Suarez wrote:

Hola Jesús:

2008/5/22 Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Estimados colegas, alguien podría enviar a mi e-mail documentación de la
arquitectura, tanto desde el punto de vista de hard, como de soft, de un
nodo (Area de Servidores) para prestar servicios de todo tipo y realizar
su control y supervisión.


La administración de un nodo es algo demasiado complicado como para
recibir una respuesta sencilla. Muchos de los suscritos a esta lista

.
.
.
(y así muchas páginas)

concuerdo bastante bien con Toja.. me parece excelente la respuesta en 
verdad..


--
Saludos!
epe

Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
http://www.NuestroServer.com/

USA: +1 305 359 4495 / España: +34 91 761 7884
Ecuador: +593 2 341 2402 / + 593 9 9246504
Mexico: +52 55 1163 8640 / Italia: +39 06 916504876
___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


[CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum desinstala cosas que no quiero!!!

2008-05-22 Thread Alejandro
Hola amigos alguno de ustedes sabra porque cuando corro #yum -y remove
(cualquier paquete), me desinstala cosas que no tienen nada que ver con el
paquete en cuestion y me desconfigura el sistema operativo no booteando
correctamente, que habria que hacer

Saludos cordiales,

___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum desinstala cosas que no quiero!!!

2008-05-22 Thread Roger Peña



--- On Thu, 5/22/08, Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum desinstala cosas que no quiero!!!

 Hola amigos alguno de ustedes sabra porque cuando corro 
#yum -y remove (cualquier paquete)

cualquiera pensaria que __si__ quieres que te elimine cualquier cosa
si no para que le pusiste la opcion -y?


cu
roger


  __
Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! 
Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum no instala nada!!!

2008-05-22 Thread Alberto Castillo
Efectivamente
El administrador del proxy, sin querer dio de baja la extension 'rpm'.
Les pido millon de disculpas por hacerles perder el tiempo con esta
tonteria...
Muchisimas gracias por la pronta respuesta!
Les comento que estabamos usando fedora para las escuelas y ahora nos
pasamos a centos+ltsp.
Somos del ministerio de educ de la pcia de cba - arg.
Un abrazo grande a todos y estamos en contacto!
en lo que pueda ayudar lo hare con mis minimos conocimientos.
Alberto Castillo
___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum desinstala cosas que no quiero!!!

2008-05-22 Thread Alberto Castillo
El día 22 de mayo de 2008 13:15, Oscar Osta Pueyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:

 Alejandro escribió:

 Hola amigos alguno de ustedes sabra porque cuando corro #yum -y remove
 (cualquier paquete), me desinstala cosas que no tienen nada que ver con el
 paquete en cuestion y me desconfigura el sistema operativo no booteando
 correctamente, que habria que hacer

 Saludos cordiales,

  

 ___
 CentOS-es mailing list
 CentOS-es@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


 Es posible que ese paquete que desinstalas tenga dependencias, cuando
 eliminas un paquete también se elimina las dependencias, aunque esos
 paquetes sean necesario para otro paquete (por eso se malmete el sistema).
 No sé si pasa siempre o solo es en ciertos casos, cuando el cálculo de
 dependencias no es tan eficiente. Yo lo que haría es no utilizar el -y y
 estudiar que se va eliminar. Por otra parte, no lo sé, pero debe existir
 alguna opción para forzar a yum a desinstalar solo ese paquete.

 Un saludo,
 

Estuve investigando un poco y hay un plugin que tiene yum llamado
'priorities' ( http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities ) el
cual se encarga de ayudarte a no reemplazar paquetes criticos y supongo que
podria hacer tambien que no desinstales esos paquetes criticos para que tu
sistema colapse.

 ___
 CentOS-es mailing list
 CentOS-es@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es

___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


RE: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum no instala nada!!!

2008-05-22 Thread Javier Aquino H.
Si quieres eliminar un solo paquete mejor usa:

 

rpm –e nombre-del-paquete

 

Saludos,

 

Javier.

 

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En
nombre de Alberto Castillo
Enviado el: Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2008 11:25 a.m.
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda!!! yum no instala nada!!!

 

Efectivamente
El administrador del proxy, sin querer dio de baja la extension 'rpm'.
Les pido millon de disculpas por hacerles perder el tiempo con esta
tonteria...
Muchisimas gracias por la pronta respuesta!
Les comento que estabamos usando fedora para las escuelas y ahora nos
pasamos a centos+ltsp.
Somos del ministerio de educ de la pcia de cba - arg.
Un abrazo grande a todos y estamos en contacto!
en lo que pueda ayudar lo hare con mis minimos conocimientos.
Alberto Castillo

-- 
Este mensaje ha sido analizado por  http://www.mailscanner.info/
MailScanner 
en busca de virus y otros contenidos peligrosos, 
y se considera que está limpio. 
MailScanner agradece a transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/  por
su apoyo. 


-- 
Este mensaje ha sido analizado por MailScanner
en busca de virus y otros contenidos peligrosos,
y se considera que está limpio.
For all your IT requirements visit: http://www.transtec.co.uk

___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS-es] Arquitectura de un Nodo

2008-05-22 Thread Ms.C.
Si, es posible y comparto, y respeto, y todo lo que quieran agregar.
¿Pero no existe nadie en esta lista que haya escrito unas líneas
describiendo una lógica de armar un punto tal vital para cualquier
entidad?. Sé que la respuesta que me den puede decir que es así. Pero
preguntar es de sabios; sin ofender, aunque podríamos decir también que
no hay preguntas malas, sino respuestas mal dadas.

Responder con interés a buscar una solución, como lo hace Toja, es la
posición de cualquier amante del SL. De todas formas gracias, seguiremos
esperando por oídos receptivos.


El jue, 22-05-2008 a las 10:43 -0500, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
escribió:
 O. T. Suarez wrote:
  Hola Jesús:
  
  2008/5/22 Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Estimados colegas, alguien podría enviar a mi e-mail documentación de la
  arquitectura, tanto desde el punto de vista de hard, como de soft, de un
  nodo (Area de Servidores) para prestar servicios de todo tipo y realizar
  su control y supervisión.
  
  La administración de un nodo es algo demasiado complicado como para
  recibir una respuesta sencilla. Muchos de los suscritos a esta lista
 .
 .
 .
 (y así muchas páginas)
 
 concuerdo bastante bien con Toja.. me parece excelente la respuesta en 
 verdad..
 
 -- 
 Saludos!
 epe
 
 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez
 http://www.NuestroServer.com/
 
 USA: +1 305 359 4495 / España: +34 91 761 7884
 Ecuador: +593 2 341 2402 / + 593 9 9246504
 Mexico: +52 55 1163 8640 / Italia: +39 06 916504876
 ___
 CentOS-es mailing list
 CentOS-es@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
-- 
***
* Ms.C. Jesús Graverán Mesa ~ *
* Profesor Asistente SUM Las Tunas(· ·)   *
* Administrador de Red - Nodo BPA Las Tunas\V/*
* Dirección Provincial BPA Las Tunas. Cuba//\\   *
* Teléfono: 031-346156 ext.120   /( ' )\  *
* E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ^*-*^   *
* Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  *
***

___
CentOS-es mailing list
CentOS-es@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es


Re: [CentOS] COBOL

2008-05-22 Thread Ian Blackwell

Michael wrote:
Just curious, maybe some old timers could help me out. I am working 
with a company that is migrating 20 years of Mainframe Software 
Development to Unix, HPUX. How much harder would it be to go to Linux, 
Centos Linux?
I think you would be better served looking for a flavour of COBOL that 
provides portability via platform independence, rather than choosing 
your platform and then a COBOL to suit.  We use ACUCOBOL from Acucorp 
for this reason.  Our code, once compiled, will run on many different 
platforms without us doing anything.  Acucorp had the write once run 
everywhere idea well before Java did.
Also, anyone have any experience with Fujitsu Cobol on Centos? The 
Fujitsu people only support Red Hat, and said I'd be on my own with 
Centos. In other words if it works, then I don't care about Fujitsu 
support.


I know some of you are thinking, did someone say COBOL? Nobody uses 
COBOL anymore! If so, let me say You are wrong. Many large 
corporations are taking their old business logic that was written in 
COBOL decades ago, and moving it to new modern platforms, like Linux. 
Programatically giving these applications a GUI face-lift, while 
maintaining their original business logic. I know because many 
companies pay me to do just that. I have a client that wants to use 
Centos Linux with Fujistu Cobol, and Fujitsu says it's gotta be Red 
Hat, any help will much appreciated.
I know COBOL is still out there, and the latest tools for GUI 
development let you build apps that users can't recognise as COBOL 
apps.  Business logic in COBOL is rock solid and won't be replaced 
anytime soon.  With a GUI front-end, why change?


Thanks,



Cheers,

Ian
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Re: OT: Top Posting - PLEASE STOP THIS POINTLESS POST

2008-05-22 Thread Martyn Drake
With respect, there are such things as email filters.  I encourage
everybody to learn how to use their own particular MUA's filtering
system.

Secondly, posting a PLEASE STOP THIS POINTLESS POST message is
futile in the extreme.  If something is bothering you to the extent
that the moderators need to know about it (and I don't think that this
is such a situation), then you take it to them off list.

Sometimes I think email is just too damn good for some people.

Regards,

Martyn
-- 
Martyn Drake
http://www.drake.org.uk
http://www.mindthegapps.com
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread david chong
Hi,

I am running Centos5.1, trying to configure samba now. I am quite new
in this area and hope help from the list.

I could not connect to it from a windows xp pc
From the console, I log in and do a

smbclient -L localhost -U%

Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
samba   Disk
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4)
Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Server   Comment
----
ANTIOCH  Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4

WorkgroupMaster
----
MYGROUP  ANTIOCH

Could you pls help.
Thanks

David
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] 1333/8GB Intel motherboard for C5.1

2008-05-22 Thread Karanbir Singh

Shawn wrote:



Realtek drivers can be found in the CentOS wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList#head-851e245f4f537add3de9c3c6a6d686771fb01bfa


Sweet thanks. Now I know about dkms-enabled driver package which
rebuilds the driver automatically for each kernel upgrade!


ofcouse, you dont need that on CentOS :D

- KB
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Interface bonding?

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Simpson
On 5/22/08, Mag Gam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just out of curiosity.

 If you wanted to bond do you have to ask your network admin to configure a
 special switch setting for MAC addresses?


depends on the mode of bonding

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Net:Bonding
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Interface bonding?

2008-05-22 Thread James Pearson

Mag Gam wrote:

Just out of curiosity.

If you wanted to bond do you have to ask your network admin to configure a
special switch setting for MAC addresses?


AFAIK, only with 802.3ad

The other Linux bonding modes don't require any switch settings

James Pearson

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] 1333/8GB Intel motherboard for C5.1

2008-05-22 Thread Farkas Levente

Karanbir Singh wrote:

Shawn wrote:



Realtek drivers can be found in the CentOS wiki:

http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList#head-851e245f4f537add3de9c3c6a6d686771fb01bfa 



Sweet thanks. Now I know about dkms-enabled driver package which
rebuilds the driver automatically for each kernel upgrade!


ofcouse, you dont need that on CentOS :D


rhel 5.2 contains updated drivers. so as centos 5.2 will be release 
these problems will vanish.


--
  Levente   Si vis pacem para bellum!
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 39, Issue 10

2008-05-22 Thread centos-announce-request
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can reach the person managing the list at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest...


Today's Topics:

   1. CESA-2008:0275 Important CentOS 5 i386 kernel Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   2. CESA-2008:0275 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 kernel   Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   3. CEBA-2008:0280  CentOS 5 i386 xen Update (Karanbir Singh)
   4. CEBA-2008:0280  CentOS 5 x86_64 xen Update (Karanbir Singh)
   5. CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 3 i386 libxslt -  security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   6. CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 libxslt  - security
  update (Tru Huynh)
   7. CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 5 i386 libxsltUpdate
  (Karanbir Singh)
   8. CESA-2008:0287 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 libxslt  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
   9. CESA-2008:0489 Critical CentOS 5 i386 gnutls  Update
  (Karanbir Singh)
  10. CESA-2008:0489 Critical CentOS 5 x86_64 gnutlsUpdate
  (Karanbir Singh)
  11. CESA-2008:0287-01: Important CentOS 2 i386libxslt security
  update (John Newbigin)


--

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:48:13 +0100
From: Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0275 Important CentOS 5 i386
kernel  Update
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0275 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0275.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
e16e0e18187d9d931228c6e11c2d89bf  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
84a3d53a655a9abbaa1bbc9e2a74d007  kernel-debug-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
54854a7515043387932785d0ca5a5b37  kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
cacfe849df6d086fe0df5ba2548e54d2  kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
bc8dc922d73b61515b0b502b60e5e084  kernel-doc-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.noarch.rpm
52cc1bf88bc8d423151a6841c2705166  kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i386.rpm
5539c13872ad6708ab0377e85d50e372  kernel-PAE-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
dae280d46074f4d34a4a2386c04aa972  kernel-PAE-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
4ab36b9e7adf36ca15b337c1bcb4021d  kernel-xen-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm
3fcf05e0c22b3a6eaaf13bd73554960a  kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i686.rpm

Source:
6db1dbe7a05d80061bd593bfa16b90ea  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.src.rpm


-- 
Karanbir Singh
CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ }
irc: z00dax, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:48:13 +0100
From: Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0275 Important CentOS 5 x86_64
kernel  Update
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2008:0275 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0275.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
78271de2d69838649627edabf22065a3  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
867eea6bf5aad07eb555ebbdaf1ffbd4  kernel-debug-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
c43110331d753e6a8bdd9d92648fb367  
kernel-debug-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
42779778f08052c98118eecbb3952880  kernel-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
3417b759c192526d881d73af4b12d5d8  kernel-doc-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.noarch.rpm
9b23032f049ad4aecd77a83cd2b328d4  kernel-headers-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
51bdb647b793105738ff423845bcc11f  kernel-xen-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm
4d8896b2d8495b5f043e298cac809f67  kernel-xen-devel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
6db1dbe7a05d80061bd593bfa16b90ea  kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.src.rpm


-- 
Karanbir Singh
CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ }
irc: z00dax, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



--

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:01:45 +0100
From: Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2008:0280  CentOS 5 i386 xen Update
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2008:0280 

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2008-0280.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
fe1476d70e4b6587e5b400aa87d98e33  xen-3.0.3-41.el5_1.6.i386.rpm
d816b1d9bcd821873c2795fc5653a50d  xen-devel-3.0.3-41.el5_1.6.i386.rpm
446c29eeb926276cee3958194e888edb  

Re: [CentOS] 1333/8GB Intel motherboard for C5.1

2008-05-22 Thread Karanbir Singh

Farkas Levente wrote:

Sweet thanks. Now I know about dkms-enabled driver package which
rebuilds the driver automatically for each kernel upgrade!


ofcouse, you dont need that on CentOS :D


rhel 5.2 contains updated drivers. so as centos 5.2 will be release
these problems will vanish.


Perhaps I was not clear in my original email, the point being that you 
dont need to rebuild drivers when kernels update ( in 99% of the cases )



___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Interface bonding?

2008-05-22 Thread Mag Gam
Thanks Jim. Since, 802.3ad requires switch settings does it perform better
than other modes? Does anyone have any benchmarks?

TIA

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:19 AM, James Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Mag Gam wrote:

 Just out of curiosity.

 If you wanted to bond do you have to ask your network admin to configure a
 special switch setting for MAC addresses?


 AFAIK, only with 802.3ad

 The other Linux bonding modes don't require any switch settings


 James Pearson

 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread John
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of david chong
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:21 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] samba question

Hi,

I am running Centos5.1, trying to configure samba now. I am quite new in
this area and hope help from the list.

I could not connect to it from a windows xp pc
From the console, I log in and do a

smbclient -L localhost -U%

Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
samba   Disk
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4)
Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Server   Comment
----
ANTIOCH  Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4

WorkgroupMaster
----
MYGROUP  ANTIOCH

Could you pls help.
Thanks

David
---
Did you do any basic network trouble shooting like ping the samba server
from the windows host by servername and the ip addy? Start there. You should
also need to disable windows simple file sharing in the Tools Menu. Have a
look at wiki.centos.org there is great how to there about how to do all
this. You will also need to define samba or unix users on your samba server.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] question on minimal install using CF as /dev/sda

2008-05-22 Thread Ray Leventhal

Hi all,

We're attempting to use CentOS 5.1 on a test platform which uses a CF 
card as it's primary storage.  (MB: ETX-LX)

The BIOS supports booting from CD and/or the CF.

Issues we've run into are:
During installation of CentOS 5.1, it appears all goes well through 
partitioning, package selection, interface configuration.  Once the 
install starts in earnest, errors pop up...a snippet is:



Traceback (most recent call first):
File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/packageSack.py, line 640, in 
returnNewestByName

   raise PackageSackError, 'No Package Matching %s' % name
File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/packageSack.py, line 318, in 
returnNewestByName return bestofeach.returnNewestByName(name)

File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 
1093, in getBestKernalByArch

   pkgs=
ayum.pkgSack.returnNewestByName(pkgname)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 
1102, in selectBestKernel

   kpkg = getBestKernalByArch(kernel, self.ayum)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 1236 
in doPostSelection

   self.selectBestKernel(anaconda)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py, line 177 in 
doPostSelection

   return
anaconda.backend.doPostSelection(anaconda)
==

It appears that we're not writing to the CF and a driver is needed.  We 
have the driver, but are uncertain how to pass the information to the 
installer.  No Floppy is present.


Any thoughts or suggestions or pointers to resources would be greatly 
appreciated.


Regards,
-Ray

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread mcclnx mcc
we have DELL 6800 server with 12 internal disks in it.  O.S. is CENTOS 4.6 and 
SCSI control card is PERC 4e/di.

We plan to configure 4 disks (5,8,9,10) as RAID5 or RAID50.  This logical 
volume will be use as file systems and store database backup files.

Can anyone tell me which one is better on performance?

Thanks.

   付費才容量無上限?Yahoo!奇摩電子信箱2.0免費給你,信件永遠不必刪! - 馬上體驗!___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Failed boot drive

2008-05-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Dean Maluski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unclear on how to recover from failed boot drive?
 SDA has failed but I'm still able to boot.
 I need to replace primary boot drive. Upon initial build I created a
 RAID 1 mirror of /boot dir/partition.
 How do I get system to boot off second or third drive so that I can
 replace /sda?

If you have mirrored /boot, when grub kicks in, go into edit mode and
replace root (hd0,0) with (hd1,0) or so on.

If you want to do this automatically, you should have had fallback
parameter in the menu.lst and two or more copies of the kernel entries
but the change above will let you boot from one of the other drives.

Right now I am converting a system that was incorrectly set up to
software RAID1. Hope it works, the server is in the wrong continent.
:-) If only the sysadmin installed it with RAID1 to start with.

So the grub should look like:

default=0
fallback=1
and then two blocks of the same kernel configuration, one with root
(hd0,0) and one with root (hd1,0).

The rest should be logical volumes or /dev/md references so the kernel
will pick up the right one, hopefully.
-- 
Hakan (m1fcj)
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 22 May 2008 14:11:31 John wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of david chong
 Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:21 AM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: [CentOS] samba question

 Hi,

 I am running Centos5.1, trying to configure samba now. I am quite new in
 this area and hope help from the list.

 I could not connect to it from a windows xp pc

 From the console, I log in and do a
 
 smbclient -L localhost -U%

 Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

 Sharename   Type  Comment
 -     ---
 samba   Disk
 IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4)
 Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

 Server   Comment
 ----
 ANTIOCH  Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4

 WorkgroupMaster
 ----
 MYGROUP  ANTIOCH

 Could you pls help.
 Thanks

 David
 ---
 Did you do any basic network trouble shooting like ping the samba server
 from the windows host by servername and the ip addy? Start there. You
 should also need to disable windows simple file sharing in the Tools Menu.
 Have a look at wiki.centos.org there is great how to there about how to do
 all this. You will also need to define samba or unix users on your samba
 server. 

If you haven't done samba troubleshooting before google for it.  There is a 
very good guide out there - the copy I have is *way* out of date so I won't 
offer it.

Anne


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] Failed boot drive

2008-05-22 Thread Dean Maluski
Unclear on how to recover from failed boot drive?
SDA has failed but I'm still able to boot.
I need to replace primary boot drive. Upon initial build I created a
RAID 1 mirror of /boot dir/partition.
How do I get system to boot off second or third drive so that I can
replace /sda?
I've successfully replaced /sdb  sdc raid 5 drives in the past but have
always struggled to get primary boot drive replaced.
Read HOWTO's in the past but it's been an unsuccessful pain and
eventually just did a full rebuild.


I just read another HOWTO and as confused as I was several months ago,
nothing on getting system to boot from alternate drive.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread John R Pierce
mcclnx mcc wrote:
 we have DELL 6800 server with 12 internal disks in it. O.S. is CENTOS
 4.6 and SCSI control card is PERC 4e/di.

 We plan to configure 4 disks (5,8,9,10) as RAID5 or RAID50. This
 logical volume will be use as file systems and store database backup
 files.

 Can anyone tell me which one is better on performance?


raid50 requires 2 or more raid 5 volumes.

with 4 disks, thats just not an option.

for file storage (including backup files from a database), raid5 is
probably fine... for primary database tablespace storage, I'd only use
raid1 or raid10.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Jason Clark
You're going to need two RAID controllers and 6 drives to do RAID 50.
RAID 50  will be faster, but costs more in drives and controllers.



Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.org


mcclnx mcc wrote:
 we have DELL 6800 server with 12 internal disks in it.  O.S. is CENTOS
 4.6 and SCSI control card is PERC 4e/di.
 
 We plan to configure 4 disks (5,8,9,10) as RAID5 or RAID50.  This
 logical volume will be use as file systems and store database backup files.
 
 Can anyone tell me which one is better on performance?
 
 Thanks.
 
 付費才容量無上限?Yahoo!奇摩電子信箱2.0免費給你,信件永遠不必刪! - *馬
 上體驗*
 http://tw.rd.yahoo.com/referurl/mail/mail20/tag_hot0103/*http://tw.mg0.mail.yahoo.com/dc/landing
 *!*
 
 
 
 
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Strange NTP problem

2008-05-22 Thread Alfred von Campe
I'm still having this issue.  Here is another update.  I noticed that  
the drift file for the system with the problem contained 0.000.  On  
most other systems this contains a positive number (and on two a  
negative number).  I deleted the drift file, resynch'ed the time with  
ntpdate hostname, restarted the NTP daemon, and waited for the  
drift file to be recreated.  It again contained 0.000 and the  
output of ntpq -np looked like this:


   remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay
offset  jitter
   
 
==
   10.101.32.104   67.128.71.65 3 u   49   64  3770.611   
1871.40 987.132
  *127.127.1.0 .LOCL.  10 l   48   64  3770.000 
0.000   0.001


I replaced the drift file with the contents of the file before the  
upgrade to CentOS, resynch'ed the time, and restarted the NTP  
daemon.  But after a little while, the system is bound to itself  
again.


BTW, the output of the cron job running ntpdate once an hour showed  
that the system has a very steady drift of 14.9 seconds every hour.   
Does that seem excessive?  NTP should be able to handle this, right?


Alfred

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] IPTables help

2008-05-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I have a dual homed server in an install for someone who is very cost sensitive.
This server originally is being setup as an Asterisk server, but now the 
simplest
thing for me to do is also set it up to provide internet access for the small 
shop as well.

So it will have one external, WAN  facing nic that needs all incoming ports 
except UDP 5060 and
1 - 6 blocked for all but two ips.

The internal, LAN facing  NIC will need all ports except voip/dns/http blocked 
to it, and need to
provide masquerading.

I have limited experience with iptables and would love some guidelines. Any 
pointers
would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
jlc
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Strange NTP problem

2008-05-22 Thread Jason Clark
I had a similar problem on a different server that I fixed last night.
Evidently it had a BIOS level feature that tried to modify the CPU clock
rate, much like cpu-freq does within the kernel, and was doing so by
messing with the system clock impacting the RTC.   I was drifting all
over the place until I found and disabled that feature (foxcon board,
something like foxstep I believe is what it is called in BIOS). Not sure
if your lenovo boards have that feature, but i know that some ASUS
boards do.


Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.org


Paul Heinlein wrote:
 On Tue, 20 May 2008, Alfred von Campe wrote:
 
 I have 30 identical Lenovo desktop systems running CentOS 5.1.  On one
 of those systems the clock is running slow (5+ minutes from yesterday
 to this morning and another minute since this morning) despite the
 fact that NTP is running on all of them and they all have the exact
 same /etc/ntp.conf file (I compared the MD5 sums of that file on all
 the systems).  Here is the output of grep ntp /var/log messages on
 the system with the problem since I restarted the NTP daemon earlier
 today:
 
 A slew of 5 min/24 hrs should be in the range of fixable.
 
 May 20 11:35:38 hepdsw03 ntpd[31792]: frequency initialized 0.000 PPM
 from /var/lib/ntp/drift
 
 This is very suspect. Are there any SELinux or other log messages
 suggesting that ntpd isn't able to write to its drift file? Your local
 clock is definitely drifting, so a 0.000 value is bogus. It may indicate
 that there's a disconnect between ntpd and the filesystem.
 
 I'd be interested in the output of ntpdc -c kerninfo; on most systems
 the 'pll frequency' value is a close match to the figure in the drift file.
 
 May 20 11:38:55 hepdsw03 ntpd[31792]: synchronized to LOCAL(0),
 stratum 10
 May 20 11:38:55 hepdsw03 ntpd[31792]: kernel time sync disabled 0001
 May 20 11:39:59 hepdsw03 ntpd[31792]: synchronized to 10.101.32.104,
 stratum 3
 
 This is ungood. Sync-ing to local before your network time server means
 that your machine doesn't want to believe your server -- and you should
 see a kernel time sync enabled message once the machine has sync-ed
 with the time server.
 
 You said the machines are identical. Could there be any variation in the
 BIOS revision level or its settings? Sometimes ACPI stuff can mess up ntp.
 
 Also -- the log messages you provide have no step time server
 reference. Do you have a valid /etc/ntp/step-tickers file?
 
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread Guy Boisvert

david chong wrote:

Hi,

I am running Centos5.1, trying to configure samba now. I am quite new
in this area and hope help from the list.

I could not connect to it from a windows xp pc

From the console, I log in and do a



smbclient -L localhost -U%


Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
samba   Disk
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4)
Domain=[MYGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4]

Server   Comment
----
ANTIOCH  Samba 3.0.25b-0.el5.4

WorkgroupMaster
----
MYGROUP  ANTIOCH

Could you pls help.
Thanks

David


Hi David,

I recommend you this: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/

This is IMHO an excellent guide made by the good folks at samba.org.

Very basically, you need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and define your 
shares there.  The default file is abundantly commented.


You can have your server validate the accesses using locally stored 
samba/users accounts or even validate with a SMB/CIFS PDC (Winblows or 
Samba).


Hope this helped a bit!


Guy Boisvert, ing.
IngTegration inc.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Warren Young

John R Pierce wrote:

raid50 requires 2 or more raid 5 volumes.

with 4 disks, thats just not an option.

for file storage (including backup files from a database), raid5 is
probably fine... for primary database tablespace storage, I'd only use
raid1 or raid10.


RAID-10 has only one perfect application, and that's with exactly four 
disks.  It can't use fewer, and the next larger step is 8, where other 
flavors of RAID usually make more sense.  But, for the 4-disk 
configuration, it's unbeatable unless you need capacity more than speed 
and redundancy.  (In that case, you go with RAID-5.)


RAID-10 gives the same redundancy as RAID-50: guaranteed tolerance of a 
single disk lost, and will tolerate a second disk lost at the same time 
if it's in the other half of the RAID.  RAID-10 may also give better 
performance than RAID-50.  I'm not sure because you're trading off more 
spindles against more parity calculation with the RAID-50.  At any rate, 
RAID-10 shouldn't be *slower*.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] IPTables help

2008-05-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have limited experience with iptables and would love some guidelines. Any
 pointers
 would be greatly appreciated!

This CentOS wiki may help:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/IPTables

Akemi
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Rudi Ahlers

Warren Young wrote:

John R Pierce wrote:

raid50 requires 2 or more raid 5 volumes.

with 4 disks, thats just not an option.

for file storage (including backup files from a database), raid5 is
probably fine... for primary database tablespace storage, I'd only use
raid1 or raid10.


RAID-10 has only one perfect application, and that's with exactly four 
disks.  It can't use fewer, and the next larger step is 8, where other 
flavors of RAID usually make more sense.  But, for the 4-disk 
configuration, it's unbeatable unless you need capacity more than 
speed and redundancy.  (In that case, you go with RAID-5.)


RAID-10 gives the same redundancy as RAID-50: guaranteed tolerance of 
a single disk lost, and will tolerate a second disk lost at the same 
time if it's in the other half of the RAID.  RAID-10 may also give 
better performance than RAID-50.  I'm not sure because you're trading 
off more spindles against more parity calculation with the RAID-50.  
At any rate, RAID-10 shouldn't be *slower*.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


It seems like you know / like RAID-10 a lot :)

So, how does it perform with 6 discs for example? Say I have 3 HDD's in 
RAID-0, and another 3 in RAID-0, then RAID-1 the 2 RAID-0 stripes. How 
well would that work?

And what would you recommend on 8 / 10 HDD's?

--

Kind Regards
Rudi Ahlers
CEO, SoftDux

Web:   http://www.SoftDux.com
Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other 
technical stuff, or visit http://www.WebHostingTalk.co.za for Web Hosting stuff

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Guy Boisvert
Jason Clark wrote:
 You're going to need two RAID controllers and 6 drives to do RAID 50.
 RAID 50  will be faster, but costs more in drives and controllers.
 
 
 
 Jason
 www.cyborgworkshop.org
 
 
 mcclnx mcc wrote:
 we have DELL 6800 server with 12 internal disks in it.  O.S. is CENTOS
 4.6 and SCSI control card is PERC 4e/di.

 We plan to configure 4 disks (5,8,9,10) as RAID5 or RAID50.  This
 logical volume will be use as file systems and store database backup files.

 Can anyone tell me which one is better on performance?


1st, Jason, please do not top post!  It makes life harder in mailing lists.


http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16
(item 2, Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts)


You do not need two (2) raid controllers unless you want to have
redundancy at the controller level.  Adaptec, 3Ware, etc do RAID 50.
For RAID 50, you need at least 6 disks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID


For database, i'd go with RAID 10.  As pointed out Joseph in a previous
post, RAID 5 rebuilding would slows the array down.

As for RAID 10, i didn't make extensive benchmarks but here are the
rough results i got with Adaptec 3405 and four (4) Seagate 15K SAS drives:


RAID 5: Read = 170 MiB/s
Write =  135 MiB/s

RAID 10: Read = 170 MiB/s
 Write = 160 MiB/s

And the difference gap (write) should increase in favor of RAID 10 as
one add disks (provided that the controller use more PCI-e lane than the
Adaptec 3405 which use 4 lanes or even using the PCI-X bus).  RAID 5
uses XOR calculation.


Guy Boisvert, ing.
IngTegration inc.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] COBOL

2008-05-22 Thread James B. Byrne
On : Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:37 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I would just buy the RH licenses for the project. CentOS may work well
 for development and testing platform, but the production code should
 be on fully supported RHEL.

Having been on RHEL support, and having had occasion to use that support quite
extensively, I have formed an opinion to the contrary.

My experience did not lead me to the conclusion that licensed RHEL
distributions, together with the highest available level of support offered by
RedHat, provided any measurable benefit over CentOS and community support.  In
fact, my experiences with RedHat Support, which were not in the least bit
negative, led me to abandon RedHat, first to WhiteBox and thence to CentOS.

The practical matter is that RedHat Support is provided in layers, with
minimally experienced person filtering support calls. This was, and I expect
still is, the case regardless of what level of support is purchased.  By the
time a serious problem got to a person in RedHat who possessed anywhere near
my own experience with the systems under consideration either I had already
solved the issue (usually with help from Goole or project specific mailing
lists), identified a satisfactory workaround, or had determined that the
problem was unsolvable in the timeframe required with the resources available.

RedHat support people were unfailingly polite and helpful, but the fact
remains that the value for fee was not evident.

Immediate support (which is really the only kind that matters to an
organization, anything else is really a development project of some sort)  for
open source systems comes in two basic flavors, enlightenment and custom
consulations.  Enlightenment is provided by informed individuals who are
willing to share their knowledge and experience with others who problems are
products of their own ignorance.  Members of this mailing list have provided
enlightenment to me on many, many occasions.

Custom work is either provided from ones own resources or is contracted out to
people who really know the system you need fixed/enhanced within a minimal
amount of time.   I have engaged open source software authors to enhance their
products with features that our firm desired on many occasions and in fact am
doing so with one at the present time.

I cannot perceive any measurable advantage to having a support contract for
OSS, other than perhaps with the actual core team of the exact product you are
using.  RH is a packager, which is not to denigrate either the value of the
integration work that they do, or its technical merit.  Nonetheless, most OSS
support problems are either resolved by re-reading the specific package
documentation, having an obscure feature identified and explained by someone
that knows about it, bypassing the impediment, or when all else fails writing
and submitting your own patch.

-- 
***  E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel  ***
James B. Byrnemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harte  Lyne Limited  http://www.harte-lyne.ca
9 Brockley Drive  vox: +1 905 561 1241
Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757
Canada  L8E 3C3

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] 1333/8GB Intel motherboard for C5.1

2008-05-22 Thread MHR
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps I was not clear in my original email, the point being that you dont
 need to rebuild drivers when kernels update ( in 99% of the cases )

Is that now true also of the nvidia driver(s)?  I haven't seen
anything so to indicate.

Thanks.

mhr
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] COBOL

2008-05-22 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
James B. Byrne wrote:

 On : Wed, 21 May 2008 16:57:37 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I would just buy the RH licenses for the project. CentOS may work well
  for development and testing platform, but the production code should
  be on fully supported RHEL.
 
 Having been on RHEL support, and having had occasion to use that support quite
 extensively, I have formed an opinion to the contrary.
 
 My experience did not lead me to the conclusion that licensed RHEL
 distributions, together with the highest available level of support offered by
 RedHat, provided any measurable benefit over CentOS and community support.  In
 fact, my experiences with RedHat Support, which were not in the least bit
 negative, led me to abandon RedHat, first to WhiteBox and thence to CentOS.

[woeful story of RH layered support]

 I cannot perceive any measurable advantage to having a support contract for
 OSS, other than perhaps with the actual core team of the exact product you are
 using.  RH is a packager, which is not to denigrate either the value of the
 integration work that they do, or its technical merit. Nonetheless, most OSS
 support problems are either resolved by re-reading the specific package
 documentation, having an obscure feature identified and explained by someone
 that knows about it, bypassing the impediment, or when all else fails writing
 and submitting your own patch.

I agree support contracts from Redhat or Microsoft or Novell provide very
little value on the surface, but there are advantages to these contracts
besides phone support.

1) Third party vendor support. These contracts and installations will
allow your software, hardware and development vendors to provide you with
the support you need/want.

2) Service agreements. Just like there is an EULA there is also a vendor
agreement within the contracts. Read them carefully. In there there are
terms that the vendor agrees to meet that are beneficial to the long
term support of their product.

3) Indemnification. Not all vendors provide this, but most do. This will
assure you, management and legal that your company will not be held
legally accountable for any intellectual property or copyright violations
that may occur due to improper licensing on behalf of the software vendor.

4) Compliance. Most regulatory controls require that there be some
level of service contract on the software that constitutes your primary
production environment. This doesn't have to be a blanket policy, just
your primary production systems. The bread n' butter so to speak.

There is a lot more to a software support plan then just phone support.

-Ross

__
This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by
the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged
and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient
of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto,
is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the
original and any copy or printout thereof.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] Re: RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Silva

on 5-22-2008 9:12 AM Rudi Ahlers spake the following:

Warren Young wrote:

John R Pierce wrote:

raid50 requires 2 or more raid 5 volumes.

with 4 disks, thats just not an option.

for file storage (including backup files from a database), raid5 is
probably fine... for primary database tablespace storage, I'd only use
raid1 or raid10.


RAID-10 has only one perfect application, and that's with exactly four 
disks.  It can't use fewer, and the next larger step is 8, where other 
flavors of RAID usually make more sense.  But, for the 4-disk 
configuration, it's unbeatable unless you need capacity more than 
speed and redundancy.  (In that case, you go with RAID-5.)


RAID-10 gives the same redundancy as RAID-50: guaranteed tolerance of 
a single disk lost, and will tolerate a second disk lost at the same 
time if it's in the other half of the RAID.  RAID-10 may also give 
better performance than RAID-50.  I'm not sure because you're trading 
off more spindles against more parity calculation with the RAID-50.  
At any rate, RAID-10 shouldn't be *slower*.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


It seems like you know / like RAID-10 a lot :)

So, how does it perform with 6 discs for example? Say I have 3 HDD's in 
RAID-0, and another 3 in RAID-0, then RAID-1 the 2 RAID-0 stripes. How 
well would that work?

And what would you recommend on 8 / 10 HDD's?

What you are describing would be raid 0+1 not raid 10. Most docs I have read 
state that raid 10 is more fault tolerant. Here is one that explains it better;

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/raid/levels/multXY-c.html


--
MailScanner is like deodorant...
You hope everybody uses it, and
you notice quickly if they don't



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread nightduke
I prefer raid level of ibm

For Dell you can find more info about raid level at

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/storage/RAID/RAIDbk0.pdf

But add hot spare disks

Nightduke


2008/5/22, Warren Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 
  So, how does it perform with 6 discs for example? Say I have 3 HDD's in
 RAID-0, and another 3 in RAID-0, then RAID-1 the 2 RAID-0 stripes.
 

 There's actually two kinds of RAID-10.  Some like to say RAID-01 or RAID-1+0
 or things like that to distinguish them.  It's a matter of whether it's
 mirrors over stripes or stripes over mirrors.  You're talking about mirrors
 over stripes, but I'm talking about doing it the other way around.

 Your way has the advantage of letting you add disks in pairs, but to get
 that you get only single-disk redundancy: if a second disk goes out, your
 array is gone, no matter which disk it is.

 If you do it the other way, you have to use groups of 4 (two mirrors striped
 together) but you get the advantage that with a single disk missing, you can
 lose another if it's in the other mirror.  Of course, if you lose two in the
 same mirror, you're toast.

  And what would you recommend on 8 / 10 HDD's?
 

 As I said, usually RAID-5 or -6 usually makes more sense with so many
 spindles.  If you're talking RAID-10 (my way) with so many disks, it starts
 getting expensive with 8, 12, etc.

 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


AW: [CentOS] question on minimal install using CF as /dev/sda

2008-05-22 Thread Marc Rebischke

Hi all,

We're attempting to use CentOS 5.1 on a test platform which uses a CF 
card as it's primary storage.  (MB: ETX-LX)
The BIOS supports booting from CD and/or the CF.

Issues we've run into are:
During installation of CentOS 5.1, it appears all goes well through 
partitioning, package selection, interface configuration.  Once the 
install starts in earnest, errors pop up...a snippet is:


Traceback (most recent call first):
File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/packageSack.py, line 640, in 
returnNewestByName
raise PackageSackError, 'No Package Matching %s' % name
File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/packageSack.py, line 318, in 
returnNewestByName return bestofeach.returnNewestByName(name)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 
1093, in getBestKernalByArch
pkgs=
ayum.pkgSack.returnNewestByName(pkgname)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 
1102, in selectBestKernel
kpkg = getBestKernalByArch(kernel, self.ayum)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/yuminstall.py, line 1236 
in doPostSelection
self.selectBestKernel(anaconda)
File
/tmp/treedir.29352/instimage/usr/lib/anaconda/backend.py, line 177 in 
doPostSelection
return
anaconda.backend.doPostSelection(anaconda)
==

It appears that we're not writing to the CF and a driver is needed.  We 
have the driver, but are uncertain how to pass the information to the 
installer.  No Floppy is present.

Any thoughts or suggestions or pointers to resources would be greatly 
appreciated.

Regards,
-Ray

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

##
Ray,

Which Driver do you mean ?
Since CF-Cards are IDE/ATA-Compatible there's normally no need to install any 
Drivers to Access the CF.

If you really need a driver for a Hardware-Component during install you could 
copy the driver to an USB-Stick instead a floppy...


Some more Ideas/Hints...

You could/should check if the
md5/sha-checksum of the downloaded CentOS ISO(s) is/are OK.

Did you made any changes to the minimal Installation Package-List ?

If you are using the netinstall.iso you
could give the full CD/DVD-ISO(s) a try.

Just my 2 Cents for now.

Regards
Marc Rebischke




___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Re: Need help with rsync. [solved]

2008-05-22 Thread James B. Byrne
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:22:19 -0700, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:37 AM, James B. Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 This indeed turned out to be an SELinux policy problem which I have since
 resolved.

 Whoa, whoa, whoa, nice shooting, Tex!  (Ghostbusters)

 Not so fast - please post the solution, too, for posterity (and those
 of us who don't use SELinux but might, someday, in the not too distant
 far future...).

 Thanks.

 mhr

Dealings with SELinux issues typically do not lend themselves to short
answers.  SELinux is like an onion, each each exception blocks access until
resolved.  Thus each policy change has to be made individually and then the
process retested so that the next impediment evidences itself.

On CentOS-5 your friends are:

# grep avc /var/log/messages
# grep process /var/log/audit/audit.log

and some of the more useful utilities are:

# audit2allow
# audit2why
# chcon
# restorecon
# sealert
# semanage

When I suspect (and that is often the hardest part of the whole exercise,
realizing that SELinux is the problem) that SELinux is involved in a problem I
start by checking the system log file /var/log/messages with grep avc.  If I
see things like this:

# grep avc /var/log/messages

May 16 04:02:33 inet01 kernel: audit(1210924952.785:22973): avc:  denied  {
read } for  pid=22282 comm=prelink name=setserial dev=dm-0 ino=3309644
scontext=user_u:system_r:prelink_t:s0
tcontext=system_u:object_r:rsync_data_t:s0 tclass=file

Then I infer that I have a problem with either the SELinux file contexts or
the system policy file.  If the SELinux problem is announced at the desktop
then you may also find it useful to check for this:

# grep setroubleshoot /var/log/messages

In which case you may see something like this:

Dec 17 14:13:24 inet01 setroubleshoot:
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/httpd (httpd_t) write to virtual.d 
(etc_t).
For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l
15618e2e-044c-4c4c-b3fc-ec1eba554d02

In this case you can follow the suggestion given in the log message and run
sealert:

# sealert -l 15618e2e-044c-4c4c-b3fc-ec1eba554d02
Summary
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/httpd (httpd_t) write to virtual.d
(etc_t).

Detailed Description
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/httpd (httpd_t) write to virtual.d
(etc_t). The SELinux type %TARGET_TYPE, is a generic type for all files in
the directory and very few processes (SELinux Domains) are allowed to write
...   yada-yada-yada...
...
Allowing Access
You can attempt to fix file context by executing restorecon -v virtual.d

The following command will allow this access:
restorecon virtual.d

And then you can try that, although I have rarely had a problem with SELinux
solved so simply:

# cd /path/to/virtual.d
# restorecon virtual.d

Anyway, if that does not work, or one never received an setroubleshoot report
to begin with, then I end up turning to audit2allow.  I do something like this
(where rsync is the process that I am having difficulty with, it could be
httpd, vsftp or anything else):

# grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow

Which may yield a report something like this:

#= prelink_t ==
allow prelink_t rsync_data_t:file read;

Now, if this does not look too alarming in terms of the access that rsync
seems to be seeking (being able to read files to be transferred seems a
logical enough expectation and the benefit/limitations of prelink seem to
require access in this instance) then we can add this permission to our policy
via a local module. You make one of these in this fashion:

#
#  grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M localrsyncmod

 IMPORTANT ***
To make this policy package active, execute:

semodule -i localrsyncmod.pp
#

Again, you simply follow the instructions given in the report.

# semodule -i localrsyncmod.pp

Now you do yet another test and check the log files.  If the problem is fixed,
then great, you are finished.  Usually, however, SELinux issues continually
reveal one permission problem after another, sometimes with different
processes, until, at last, they have all been accommodated. Consequently you
end up re-running your tests, checking the audit files, and modifying the
local policy one item at a time.

Note that simply overriding what SELinux is prohibiting is not what I am
advocating here.  Sometimes the problem is that the software needs its file
system access expectations trimmed back and that requires filing a bug report
with the maintainers.  However, in a production environment you normally just
have to get things working and what I usually do is weigh what the program is
requesting against what I want it to do for me.  Often the problem is that the
default policy is simply too restrictive.  On rare occasions I do actually
file a bug report but almost always override the local policy anyway just to
get on with the 

[CentOS] Current Chipset Compatibility

2008-05-22 Thread John Paulson
Can someone make a recommedation as far as best chipset for Centos 5.0 or 5..1 
using a Q6600 series CPU with chipsets that have onboard VGA?  
From poking around it looks like the G33 and P35 are not supported or have 
problems until the newer 2.6.22 kernel (the iso's appear to be earlier than 
that, think it was .18)?  So I am considering boards with the Intel G965 
chipset but not sure if is supported yet?
Can someone make a recommedation as far as best chipset for this scenario? thx
-- John


  ___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] COBOL

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Peterson
We use COBOL on Unix.
I have worked with NCR/ATT Unix and since 1995 have been supporting COBOL
on SCO Unix.
I am in the process of porting to CentOS and RHEL.
We use RM/COBOL.

It is supported by Liant at www.liant.com
We use it for internal and Internet programming.
They also support Web Services using COBOL.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:47 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] COBOL

Just curious, maybe some old timers could help me out. I am working with 
a company that is migrating 20 years of Mainframe Software Development 
to Unix, HPUX. How much harder would it be to go to Linux, Centos Linux?

Also, anyone have any experience with Fujitsu Cobol on Centos? The 
Fujitsu people only support Red Hat, and said I'd be on my own with 
Centos. In other words if it works, then I don't care about Fujitsu 
support.

I know some of you are thinking, did someone say COBOL? Nobody uses 
COBOL anymore! If so, let me say You are wrong. Many large 
corporations are taking their old business logic that was written in 
COBOL decades ago, and moving it to new modern platforms, like Linux. 
Programatically giving these applications a GUI face-lift, while 
maintaining their original business logic. I know because many companies 
pay me to do just that. I have a client that wants to use Centos Linux 
with Fujistu Cobol, and Fujitsu says it's gotta be Red Hat, any help 
will much appreciated.

Thanks,

-- 
Michael Anderson,
J3k Solutions
Sr.Systems Programmer/Analyst
832.515.3868

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?

2008-05-22 Thread Florin Andrei

Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?

http://www.linux.com/feature/135980

--
Florin Andrei

http://florin.myip.org/
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?

2008-05-22 Thread Heiko Adams
Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 12:03 -0700 schrieb Florin Andrei:
 Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
 
On 5.1 it took nearly 3 weeks so expect at least the same period of time
for 5.2 - otherwise: it's done when it's done :D
-- 
Heiko Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]


signature.asc
Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?

2008-05-22 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0700, Florin Andrei enlightened us:
 Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
 
 http://www.linux.com/feature/135980

When it's done. For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less
than 24 hours ago.

It will be at least a couple of weeks for the builds to finish and
preliminary QA to take place. 

Can we please hold off on these questions until June at the very least?

Matt

-- 
Matt Hyclak
Department of Mathematics 
Department of Social Work
Ohio University
(740) 593-1263
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] Re:Re:Can't get past the splash screen

2008-05-22 Thread Alex White

Eon Strife wrote:

Hi,
Thanks, it's Gnome, and I'm stuck when I login as root.
By using Putty, I managed to create a new user, and then I tried to login to 
desktop(using nomachine) as that user, and yes, it works. The problem now is 
that I stuck when I login as the root.




NX 596 Session startup failed.- 
The additional line in the sshlog of the root
NX 1004 Error: NX Agent exited with exit status 1.
Can't open 
/var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{0C2C8B077AB56ED37F7A5A72FE8FA7BF}: No 
such file or directory.
mv: cannot stat 
`/var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{0C2C8B077AB56ED37F7A5A72FE8FA7BF}': No 
such file or directory
NX 1006 Session status: closed
Exited with status 0. User pressed Ok.


As a regular user you shouldn't be able to look into that directory, 
so that's normal. Only root and nx can do that.


Interesting (at least to me) is that you get an error concerning a 
session that I do not believe it should be looking for. It's like 
it's attempting to reattach to a session that doesn't exist and then 
it fails. I could be incorrect, but at this point it's simply a data 
point.


On the client machine (assuming it is linux), have you removed all 
session data from the user's home directory? By default this is 
~/.nx/cache-unix-windowmanagername (for you that is likely gnome) 
and ~/.nx/letter-hostname-screen-somerandomhashIthink/


Don't remove the config directory or else you'll have to set up the 
nx information again. See if that doesn't fix the issue. It may not, 
and I'm sorry if it doesn't, but I am not entirely sure about this 
particular issue.


If the client machine is a windows machine there is a .nx directory, 
but I am not sure where it's kept. C:\documents and 
settings\user\.nx maybe. That is where it resides on my windows 
install at work on XP. I may or may not have changed the directory 
so you might have to look around a bit.



HTH

Alex White
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Life is a prison, death is a release
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Linux
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Guy Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You do not need two (2) raid controllers unless you want to have
 redundancy at the controller level.  Adaptec, 3Ware, etc do RAID 50.
 For RAID 50, you need at least 6 disks.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID


 For database, i'd go with RAID 10.  As pointed out Joseph in a previous
 post, RAID 5 rebuilding would slows the array down.

 As for RAID 10, i didn't make extensive benchmarks but here are the
 rough results i got with Adaptec 3405 and four (4) Seagate 15K SAS drives:


 RAID 5: Read = 170 MiB/s
Write =  135 MiB/s

 RAID 10: Read = 170 MiB/s
 Write = 160 MiB/s

And stick with md-raid 10 (also known as software raid) because it is
much more intelligently designed than any
closed-source-embedded-raid-controller.

Nowadays hardware raid frightens me because of the need to have spare
raid-controllers for every hardware-raid-configuration I have. They
are neither interchangable nor easily recoverable.

md-raid 10 can be established with any number of disks (at least 3 but
better check with google)
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?

2008-05-22 Thread Florin Andrei

Matt Hyclak wrote:


For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less
than 24 hours ago.


I was just curious, I was not demanding it right now or anything like 
that.


Sorry if my inquiry seemed inconsiderate.

--
Florin Andrei

http://florin.myip.org/
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
And stick with md-raid 10 (also known as software raid) because it is
much more intelligently designed than any
closed-source-embedded-raid-controller.

Pretty strong opinion that would be disputed by many don't you think?
I would venture to say that any large system involved in SLA's with 5 9's
etc would have very good equipment all using hardware based controllers.
Not to mention you just invalidated almost every SAN in production which
would be many :)

jlc
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread Christopher Chan

david chong wrote:

Hi,

I am running Centos5.1, trying to configure samba now. I am quite new
in this area and hope help from the list.


Have you ever tried going through the Samba Howto or the Using Samba 
book material that comes free with samba in html format?


If you want help, then you need to tell us also what you have done...why 
should we try to walk you through each and every step?

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Warren Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At any rate, RAID-10 shouldn't be *slower*.

I've actually seen equipments where RAID-10 was slower for reading
than RAID-5 with the same number of disks. RAID-10 depends on the
ability of the controller of balancing reads between the two disks
(because as both have the same information, it can choose from which
to read). Most implementations in cheap controllers (cheap as opposed
to hundreds of thousands of dollars SAN controllers) do not implement
this in the smartest possible way.

With RAID-5 there is not such a choice, the information must be read
from the disk that holds it, which means all implementations must do
the right thing, which will end up striping reads across all (but one)
disks.

In any case, I've used RAID-5 with databases and it works pretty well.
The biggest problem with RAID-5 (especially on big volumes) would be
the time to reconstruct if a disk fails. But if you're using good
quality SCSI drives that tend to last long, I would consider using
RAID-5.

As with any other performance-related issue, the answer, as usual,
comes from the benchmarks you do with your own application. Anything
else would be just theoretical and could not even apply to your
particular case.

HTH,
Filipe
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Christopher Chan


Your way has the advantage of letting you add disks in pairs, but to get 
that you get only single-disk redundancy: if a second disk goes out, 
your array is gone, no matter which disk it is.


Nah, if you lose both disks that belong to the same stripe array, the 
other stripe array is still around.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Christopher Chan



And stick with md-raid 10 (also known as software raid) because it is
much more intelligently designed than any
closed-source-embedded-raid-controller.


This was valid until...quite a few years ago.



Nowadays hardware raid frightens me because of the need to have spare
raid-controllers for every hardware-raid-configuration I have. They
are neither interchangable nor easily recoverable.


You seem to have been living under a rock for the last half decade.



md-raid 10 can be established with any number of disks (at least 3 but
better check with google)


Hmm, I think your advice must be taken with a grain of salt. Have you 
actually tried to do what you suggest? In any case, I will give you the 
benefit of the doubt that you just did a typo.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread david chong
 Have you ever tried going through the Samba Howto or the Using Samba book
 material that comes free with samba in html format?

 If you want help, then you need to tell us also what you have done...why
 should we try to walk you through each and every step?


Hi All,

Thanks for all your suggestions.

No, I don't mean to ask you walking me step by step.

Actually I am following the Samba 3 By Example and stuck at the very
first example. I copied the whole smb.conf but cannot connect to my
box. I can ping to it and ssh to it though.

I notice in the example running smbclient -L localhost -U% will
output the line below:
ADMIN$ IPC IPC Service (Samba 3.0.20)

but from my C5.1, I don't have this line, other lines are the same,
can anyone explain this line, wondering if this is where the problem
lies.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread Christopher Chan



I notice in the example running smbclient -L localhost -U% will
output the line below:
ADMIN$ IPC IPC Service (Samba 3.0.20)

but from my C5.1, I don't have this line, other lines are the same,
can anyone explain this line, wondering if this is where the problem
lies.


Run testparm and tell us what your share definitions are...if any.

cheers,

Christopher
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] IPTables help

2008-05-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
This CentOS wiki may help:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/IPTables

Akemi


Akemi,
That was helpful (I should have checked the wiki:).

After reading that and the RH related links, I think I have what I need
but I am unclear about one aspect. What is the correlation between filtering
LAN based connections destined to be masqueraded out and what can even get to
the internal NIC? I see the chains are obviously distinct from each other, and
I assume the tables are as well. So to control what may ingress an interface 
destined
for the server itself, you write a rule for the default table's INPUT chain, to 
control
what may be masqueraded/DNAT'ed, you write a rule for the either the NAT tables
PREROUTING chain or the default table's FORWARD chain, or both?

In looking at examples for setting up NAT, I don't see people typically 
lockdown what
may masqueraded, so I am not seeing how to do this. Buy my inclusion of at 
least one
rule, am I properly prohibiting anything else? Is there any significance to the 
order
in which I setup masquerading and then lockdown what hits the FORWARD chain?

Do you not need to setup default policies for the chains on the nat table?

Thanks!
jlc


**
#!/bin/bash

WAN=eth0
LAN=eth1

# Flush all current rules from iptables
iptables -F

# Set default policies for INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT chains
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT

# Set access for localhost
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT

# Accept packets belonging to established and related connections
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

# Setup masquerading on WAN interface
iptables -A FORWARD -i $WAN -o $LAN -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i $LAN -o $WAN -j ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $WAN -j MASQUERADE

# Allow incoming DNS/DHCP/HTTP/SIP connections from internal clients on LAN
iptables -A FORWARD -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 53 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 80 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 67 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 68 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 5060 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -i $LAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 
1:6 -j ACCEPT

# Allow incoming SIP connections from both of the provider's RTP Servers on WAN
iptables -A INPUT -s xx.xx.xxx.162/32 -i $WAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p 
udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -s xx.xx.xxx.163/32 -i $WAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p 
udp --dport 1:6 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -s xx.xx.xxx.162/32 -i $WAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p 
udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -s xx.xx.xxx.163/32 -i $WAN -m state --state NEW -m udp -p 
udp --dport 1:6 -j ACCEPT

# Forward smtp connections to mail server from WAN
iptables -A FORWARD -i $WAN -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 25 -j 
ACCEPT
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $WAN -p tcp --dport 25 -j DNAT --to 
192.168.0.3:25

# Save settings
service iptables save
**
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


RE: [CentOS] samba question

2008-05-22 Thread John
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of david chong
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:19 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] samba question

 Have you ever tried going through the Samba Howto or the Using Samba 
 book material that comes free with samba in html format?

 If you want help, then you need to tell us also what you have 
 done...why should we try to walk you through each and every step?


Hi All,

Thanks for all your suggestions.

No, I don't mean to ask you walking me step by step.

Actually I am following the Samba 3 By Example and stuck at the very first
example. I copied the whole smb.conf but cannot connect to my box. I can
ping to it and ssh to it though.

I notice in the example running smbclient -L localhost -U% will output the
line below:
ADMIN$ IPC IPC Service (Samba 3.0.20)

but from my C5.1, I don't have this line, other lines are the same, can
anyone explain this line, wondering if this is where the problem lies.
--

Can you ping the Samba Server by the Server name? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] yourservernamehere

All your line means, is that is the administrative share
\\servername\admin$. OK, if you did the example in the from Samba 3 by
Example, then you will be able to connect via anonimously to the samba
server from the Windows machine. That is providing that you have the correct
file permissions on the Samba Server in question. 

For that you will use the commands chmod  chown. Full access is needed to
the folder that is shared in samba using that example. When using chown and
chmod be sure to use the -R Option, to make the changes apply recursively
to the shared folder. 

I honestly know that if your indeed using that example it will work if
followed step by step.

Have a Blast :-D!,
JohnStanley  
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] How to move my MBR

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Moseman
I removed an ATA drive (/home) for a new SATA and my system would not
boot.  I'm guessing that it put the MBR on that drive instead of the
drive that holds the / partition.  What's the best way confirm where
the MBR resides and, after I verify that's my problem, how I can move
(or make a copy) onto a different drive?

Thanks,
Scott
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] Re: How to move my MBR

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Moseman
Just in case this makes any difference...

# cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 4.6 (Final)

Thanks,
Scott


On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Scott Moseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I removed an ATA drive (/home) for a new SATA and my system would
 not boot.  I'm guessing that it put the MBR on that drive instead of the
 drive that holds the / partition.  What's the best way confirm where the
 MBR resides and, after I verify that's my problem, how I can move (or
 make a copy) onto a different drive?

 Thanks,
 Scott

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 ?

2008-05-22 Thread Paul
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 15:42 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote:
 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:03:23PM -0700, Florin Andrei enlightened us:
  Anybody knows when CentOS 5.2 will be made available?
  
  http://www.linux.com/feature/135980
 
 When it's done. For crying out loud, upstream has only released 5.2 less
 than 24 hours ago.
 
 It will be at least a couple of weeks for the builds to finish and
 preliminary QA to take place. 
 
 Can we please hold off on these questions until June at the very least?

LOL, it's *almost* funny how quick people start asking when the next
version will come out when after upstream has released a new version.

I'm looking forward to some of the new apps  features, but I can wait
the 2-3 weeks it usually takes.

Paul

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] RAID5 or RAID50 for database?

2008-05-22 Thread Guy Boisvert

Linux wrote:


And stick with md-raid 10 (also known as software raid) because it is
much more intelligently designed than any
closed-source-embedded-raid-controller.


More intelligently designed - Could you please tell us more on this one?



i
Nowadays hardware raid frightens me because of the need to have spare
raid-controllers for every hardware-raid-configuration I have. They
are neither interchangable nor easily recoverable.

md-raid 10 can be established with any number of disks (at least 3 but
better check with google)



Not easily recoverable?  I did recovery many time without a hitch 
(Adaptec, 3Ware, LSI, PERC)!


As for RAID 10 with 3 disks, mmm... go see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks


Lastly, it's kinda strange that your name is Linux: Maybe you're young 
and your parents decided to honor this great OS!  Well, i may name my 
next children Cento !!! ;-)



Hey, have a nice day Linuxito !


Guy Boisvert, ing.
IngTegration inc.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] Re:Re:Re:Can't get past the splash screen

2008-05-22 Thread Eon Strife
Hi,
Thanks, I check those folders, and they are already empty.
Now, I tried to remove the freenx by using yum, and then I removed the files it 
left behind manually in:

/usr/bin/nxserver
/usr/lib/nx
/var/lib/nxserver
/etc/nxserver

along with the nx user and group and reinstall. The problem worsen, no matter 
what user I tried, I always got Session Startup Failed:

===
NX 700 Session id: cluster.hpc.org-1014-084919CE7F9816540BDEDD5A7928084E
NX 705 Session display: 1014
NX 703 Session type: unix-gnome
NX 701 Proxy cookie: ee398e9cedaf3adbba4dc966d4433dee
NX 702 Proxy IP: 127.0.0.1
NX 706 Agent cookie: ee398e9cedaf3adbba4dc966d4433dee
NX 704 Session cache: unix-gnome
NX 707 SSL tunneling: 1
NX 105 /usr/bin/nxserver: line 1077:  8588 Terminated  sleep 
$AGENT_STARTUP_TIMEOUT
NX 596 Session startup failed.
NX 1004 Error: NX Agent exited with exit status 1.
NX 1006 Session status: closed
Can't open 
/var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{084919CE7F9816540BDEDD5A7928084E}: No 
such file or directory.
mv: cannot stat 
`/var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{084919CE7F9816540BDEDD5A7928084E}': No 
such file or directory
NX 280 Exiting on signal: 15
===

I tried alternative solution by using VNC. In order to have access to desktop, 
I modifed the content of the Xstartup file (for the root in /root/.vnc/xstartup 
and 
for the regular user in /home/EonStrife/.vnc/xstartup) to be :
===
#!/bin/sh

# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:
# unset SESSION_MANAGER
# exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ]  exec /etc/vnc/xstartup
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ]  xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
xsetroot -solid grey
vncconfig -iconic 
xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop 
#startx 
exec gnome-session 
#twm 
===

The funny thing is that for regular user I can access the desktop, but for the 
root I'm only treated with the terminal. (BTW, the client I used are tightVNC 
and RealVNC)
Thanks.


===Previous Message===

Eon Strife wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks, it's Gnome, and I'm stuck when I login as root.
 By using Putty, I managed to create a new user, and then I tried to login to 
 desktop(using nomachine) as that user, and yes, it works. The problem now is 
 that I stuck when I login as the root.


 NX 596 Session startup failed.- 
 The additional line in the sshlog of the root
 NX 1004 Error: NX Agent exited with exit status 1.
 Can't open 
 /var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{0C2C8B077AB56ED37F7A5A72FE8FA7BF}: No 
 such file or directory.
 mv: cannot stat 
 `/var/lib/nxserver/db/running/sessionId{0C2C8B077AB56ED37F7A5A72FE8FA7BF}': 
 No such file or directory
 NX 1006 Session status: closed
 Exited with status 0. User pressed Ok.

As a regular user you shouldn't be able to look into that directory, 
so that's normal. Only root and nx can do that.

Interesting (at least to me) is that you get an error concerning a 
session that I do not believe it should be looking for. It's like 
it's attempting to reattach to a session that doesn't exist and then 
it fails. I could be incorrect, but at this point it's simply a data 
point.

On the client machine (assuming it is linux), have you removed all 
session data from the user's home directory? By default this is 
~/.nx/cache-unix-windowmanagername (for you that is likely gnome) 
and ~/.nx/letter-hostname-screen-somerandomhashIthink/

Don't remove the config directory or else you'll have to set up the 
nx information again. See if that doesn't fix the issue. It may not, 
and I'm sorry if it doesn't, but I am not entirely sure about this 
particular issue.

If the client machine is a windows machine there is a .nx directory, 
but I am not sure where it's kept. C:\documents and 
settings\user\.nx maybe. That is where it resides on my windows 
install at work on XP. I may or may not have changed the directory 
so you might have to look around a bit.


HTH

Alex White
-- 
ethericalzen at gmail.com
Life is a prison, death is a release

Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos