Re: [CentOS-docs] SELinux
Ned Slider wrote: Hi list, I've knocked up a contribution on SELinux here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux I've tried to pitch it as an introduction for those not already familiar with SELinux but also hopefully a useful reference. I'm relatively new to SELinux and have covered pretty much everything I know to the limits of my limited knowledge. If folks think other material needs to be covered then it may be more appropriate for them to make the additions rather than me. Consider it a get the ball rolling contribution that the community can add to as necessary :) Comments welcomed, I would add the following just before Sumamry (in case one wants to edit the rules suggested by audit2allow): Building module policy manually - grep sendmail /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M postfix - while reviewing the generated postfix.te module local 1.0; require { type httpd_log_t; type postfix_postdrop_t; class dir getattr; class file { read getattr }; } #= postfix_postdrop_t == allow postfix_postdrop_t httpd_log_t:file getattr; we decide that we do not want either to *relabel* the files or to *allow* the action, but it is safe to *ignore* the warnings. Therefore we edit the action rule, like below: dontaudit postfix_postdrop_t httpd_log_t:file getattr; We now need to compile and load the policy: $ checkmodule -M -m -o postfix.mod postfix.te $ semodule_package -o local.pp -m postfix.mod $ semodule -i postfix.pp ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] SELinux
Ned Slider wrote: Hi list, I've knocked up a contribution on SELinux here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux I've tried to pitch it as an introduction for those not already familiar with SELinux but also hopefully a useful reference. Great article. What maybe should be added to the article is the fact, that SELinux doesn't need programs to be changed, meaning that programs do not (need to) know about SELinux at all for it to work. So a SELinux denial just looks like a normal access denied to any program. Cheers, Ralph pgpzgwBcALnpb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-virt] Need Kernel for NetBSD to install on Xen
Augustin, install the x86_64 version of CentOS 5.2. You will be able to boot the NetBSD/amd64-current domU install kernel. -Pierre-Philipp Quoting white list (11/08/2008 19:16), Hello You All, I'm trying to install NetBSD on Xen. Anyone, I need a kernel to install NetBSD or FreeBSD or both to install it on Xen 3.2 running from CentOS 5.2 ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] Need Kernel for NetBSD to install on Xen
what do I need to do to install NetBSD I don't care what release I just want to install NetBSD on CentOS 5.2 x86_64 version Xen 3.2. It seems to make no difference if I use netbsd-INSTALL_XEN3_DOMU.gz (i386) or x86_64 architecture. Please Help. Thanks, Augustin On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Pierre-Philipp Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Augustin, Yes NetBSD/i386 domU won't work: It's non-PAE and CentOS wants PAE. Here's a mirror of the NetBSD-current daily snapshots, ftp://ftp.fr.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD As for today you might want this one, ftp://ftp.fr.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/200808090002Z/amd64/binary/kernel/netbsd-INSTALL_XEN3_DOMU.gz -Pierre-Philipp Quoting white list (11/08/2008 20:36), If try to install i386 architecture it won't work i get an error message. Using config file /etc/xen/vm02. Error: (2, 'Invalid kernel', 'xc_dom_compat_check: guest type xen-3.0-x86_32 not supported by xen kernel, sorry\n') Thats why i'm looking to get a amd64 kernel to install NetBSD or FreeBSD or both. Thanks, - Augustin On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Pierre-Philipp Braun [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Augustin, install the x86_64 version of CentOS 5.2. You will be able to boot the NetBSD/amd64-current domU install kernel. -Pierre-Philipp Quoting white list (11/08/2008 19:16), Hello You All, I'm trying to install NetBSD on Xen. Anyone, I need a kernel to install NetBSD or FreeBSD or both to install it on Xen 3.2 running from CentOS 5.2 ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org mailto:CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS] Question about Open SSH Public Keys
You could start the ssh server on that machine with -vvv to get a detailled, verbose logging. That does not always lead to entries making clear what happens, but to entries you can use for googling (or asking here). I would also have a look at DNS - compare forward and reverse lookups (are they the same for the from=... entry?), does that Centos4-Box reach the DNS RELIABLY etc. SSH lies much emphasis on a working DNS. Dirk --On 11. August 2008 15:50:38 +1200 Clint Dilks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi People I am setting up some systems with ssh public keys and as part of this I am using the from directive inside .ssh/authorized_keys. Currently I am using the IP address to control the source. eg from=10.0.0.1 but on one CentOS 4 System that is up to date this will only work if I replace the IP with the DNS name of the server. I have verified that DNS is resolving the DNS Name to the correct IP address on the server in question and all seems to be fine. Aside from this CentOS Box have only been able to test this out on some old FC6 Machines and they behave as I expected. Anyone got any ideas why this might be happening ? I have compared the sshd config between the FC6 Machines and the CentOS Box and can't spot anything that would explain the issue. Thanks for any ideas, and have a nice day :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Dirk H. Schulz IT Systems Service Wiesenweg 12, 85567 Grafing Tel. 0 80 92/86 25 68 Fax. 0 80 92/86 25 72 -- Technik vom Feinsten - und das nötige Tuning ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients run ypbind service). On the client I have configured /etc/nsswitch.conf with : passwd: files nis shadow: files nis group: files nis The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv service on the nis server for every change. Does anyone now what could be the problem or where I should look? Apparently the OS gets password and user info using another way than the ypcat tool. (ypserv-2.13-18,ypbind-1.17.2-13) Thanks, Theo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients run ypbind service). On the client I have configured /etc/nsswitch.conf with : passwd: files nis shadow: files nis group: files nis The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv service on the nis server for every change. Does anyone now what could be the problem or where I should look? Apparently the OS gets password and user info using another way than the ypcat tool. (ypserv-2.13-18,ypbind-1.17.2-13) Thanks, Theo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi Theo, As you are talking about the users homes I assume you are providing this via something like NFS? If so it is your autofs information that controls what home gets mounted not the passwd information. You can configure autofs to reference a NIS map. Normally I would expect this to be something like auto_home. An entry in this file might look like user server:nfs exported dir: And you would have an entry in /etc/auto.master /home auto.home I hope this helps :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Clint Dilks wrote: Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients run ypbind service). On the client I have configured /etc/nsswitch.conf with : passwd: files nis shadow: files nis group: files nis The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv service on the nis server for every change. Does anyone now what could be the problem or where I should look? Apparently the OS gets password and user info using another way than the ypcat tool. (ypserv-2.13-18,ypbind-1.17.2-13) Thanks, Theo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi Theo, As you are talking about the users homes I assume you are providing this via something like NFS? If so it is your autofs information that controls what home gets mounted not the passwd information. You can configure autofs to reference a NIS map. Normally I would expect this to be something like auto_home. An entry in this file might look like user server:nfs exported dir: And you would have an entry in /etc/auto.master /home auto.home I hope this helps :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Just to clarify this post. The password file is still referenced eg if you have a user bob on your system with a home dir set to /home/bob (from the passwd file) autofs tells your system where to mount /home/bob from rather than looking on local disk. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Writable Centos LiveCD on Embeded Linux?
Oliver Schulze L. wrote: Hi Stephen, thanks for answering. I'm trying to see if I can get a router using an embeded platform, alix in this case. Since the Alix platform is getting more powerfull and the 1GB compatch flash is also getting cheaper, I was think in createing a full Centos distro booting in that platform. Will read more about the overlay feature and see if it will do the job for me. But maybe I will go back to have an ext2 partition and don't write to it. I like the LiveCD option because of the fast (no fsck) boot feature Regards, Oliver Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Oliver Schulze L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stephen, I read about the overlay feature in Fedora9, but I don't know if when the changes to the FS are so big (like going from 5.1 to 5.2) the overlay will grow and grow over time. And the overlay solution will require too much space. For the live Cd that is about your only choise. The overlay will not grow.. it will eventually fill up, but if you are making that many changes in an embedded environment you really need to think about why you aren't doing a complete reflush of the SSD OK ... what would be the benefit of booting and updating the livecd as compared to just installing and updating CentOS on the flash. There is nothing special about the RPMS on the LiveCD as compared to regular CentOS. The only possible thing I see as an advantage would be the fact that the OS was NOT WRITABLE .. however, by rolling in the overlay feature, you would be over riding that. Am I missing something here? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos 5.2 / sun java ?
John R Pierce wrote: Heiko Adams wrote: But maybe CentOS doesn't need to redistribute those RPMS for two reasons: 1) CentOS testing already has IcedTea 6 RPMS 2) Somewhere I've read that Red Hat plans to integrate IcedTea RPMS into 5.3 agreed I dunno any enterprise Java developers who are using OpenJDK for any production work yet. sure, people are watching it to see how it comes out, but I suspect it will be a couple years yet before its considered production grade at places like where I work. Well ... that still does not make older versions of sun java redistributable :D if/when upstream rolls java into RHEL in a way that is redistributable, we will build it also for CentOS. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Theo Band wrote: ... The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. If you run authconfig-gtk on the client and look at the Options tab, is Cache user information selected? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:05:58AM +0200, Theo Band wrote: I actually have problems that passwords don't get updated. I noticed that by changing the home directory in /etc/passwd. When I change that from /home/user to /nobackup/home/user it does work with ypcat passwd (I see the correct path on the client). When I do cd ~user however, it Had you already done a cd ~user before the change? Some shells cache the home directory lookup so doesn't notice changes. The other place to look into would be nscd; if you're running that on the client then lookups are cached locally for a period of time. This can result in changes not appearing on a client machine immediately. ypcat talks directly to the NIS server, whereas the NS resolver routines (nsswitch.conf entries) will utilise nscd if it's running. What does getent passwd say? That uses the OS resolver routines. Or finger user? You can test this on the client by service nscd stop rm /var/db/nscd/* service nscd start and seeing if that works. The fact that ypcat returns the right results means the _server_ is working properly. -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Theo Band wrote: The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv service on the nis server for every change. Are you running nscd, the name service caching daemon? Ralph pgpAtp80s6mp1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Theo Band wrote: Hi I use NIS om my network (CentOS4.6). When an update on a map occurs (home directory changed in /etc/passwd for instance), I run make -C /var/yp/ and check the result on a client. On the client I use ypcat passwd and find indeed that the update has propagated (the clients run ypbind service). On the client I have configured /etc/nsswitch.conf with : passwd: files nis shadow: files nis group: files nis The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. For instance cd ~john still directs me to the old path instead of to the updated path (as correctly reported by ypcat passwd). To solve it I need to restart the ypserv service on the nis server for every change. Does anyone now what could be the problem or where I should look? Apparently the OS gets password and user info using another way than the ypcat tool. Are your running nscd on the clients? If so, try disabling nscd and see if that make a difference. James Pearson ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need to restart ypserv to update the nis maps
Mogens Kjaer wrote: Theo Band wrote: ... The problem is however that on the client, if I try to use the new data, it still uses the old one. If you run authconfig-gtk on the client and look at the Options tab, is Cache user information selected? Mogens I have not enabled this option. (Didn't realize it exists either...) Theo ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? That's the sort of question where, if you ask ten people for their opinion, you will get sixteen different answers. At least. I personally use either vi or nedit, depending on what the current environment is and what I'm trying to accomplish. OK, I'm the second of the sixteen answers. I use vi and elvis (GUI editor 100% compatible with vi). I highly recommend you learn vi. You will never regret :-D Akemi: I think by the time I finished the question yesterday, I answered my own question. I am going to learn how to use vi (actually, vim). This is the first time I have heard of the elvis editor. As you wrote, I will not regret learning vi and the other editors might not be available in a remote box. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware gvim sounds interesting. Thanks! I tried to install it, but it's not in rpmforge. Is it in another yum repository? You might also look at Eclipse. First time I've heard of that one. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] vncserver on IPv6
Not working Rob Lockhart wrote: In /etc/sysconfig/vncservers I have something like this: VNCSERVERS=1:myusername VNCSERVERARGS[1]=-geometry 1400x1050 -depth 16 -localhost (so I can only use localhost, which means I only allow connections over ssh or from the local machine). Yours might be something like this: VNCSERVERS=1:robert VNCSERVERARGS[1]=-geometry 1400x1050 -depth 16 InTransports=IPv6,IPv4 Well first my line has [2]. I changed that to [1] and tried all sorts of variants to the above, including putting a - infront of InTransports (like other options), and replacing the = with a space. No listening on IPv6. I have foudn the RealVNC support mailing list and sent a question there, hopefully to get answers. But if anyone has anything to suggest here, please do. then obviously as root: service vncserver restart Have you tried that? Does VNC work over IPv4? On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.realvnc.com/products/enterprise/4.1/ipv6.html IPv6 support in VNC Server E4.1.7/P4.1.2 VNC Server E4.1.7 P4.1.2 are fully IPv6-aware, but is shipped with IPv6 support disabled by default, for security reasons. IPv6 can be enabled by setting InTransports=IPv6,IPv4 (the default being IPv4 only), either on the command-line when starting vncserver under Unix Ok. we have vnc-server-4.1.2-9.el5.i386.rpm, so it SHOULD support IPv6. Don't know how to add a setting to the command-line, as I rund VNCserver via the service command, but I added it to /etc/sysconfig/vncservers: InTransports=IPv6 (note I also tried without the quotes) and netstat -na|grep 5902 shows vncserver only running on IPv4 and I can only connect to it via IPv4. So what am I missing? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vaclav Mocek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! snip I suggest to install Eclipse and CDT plugin and you get a full IDE http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/ I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware gvim sounds interesting. Thanks! I tried to install it, but it's not in rpmforge. Is it in another yum repository? You might also look at Eclipse. First time I've heard of that one. Well Eclipse is more of an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) which I think having one that works across multiple languages is essential. Emacs was the original IDE, but the GUI gives a lot more to the environment, contextual language reference, interface designing, etc. Though Emacs purists will argue that elisp modules exist to provide those, and they probably do, but GUI interface design tools, most likely they do not. vi is an essential tool to learn though for system administration and quick-n-dirty coding, but to really develop a software system you need an IDE, preferably one that can handle multiple languages, has a GUI designer, language reference tools, and integrates with multiple revision control systems (rcs/cvs, subversion, git). -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware gvim sounds interesting. Thanks! I tried to install it, but it's not in rpmforge. Is it in another yum repository? Yes, in base. It's what you get when you install vim-X11. yum provides \*gvim\* can tell you things like that. Cheers, Ralph pgpLTK8d52sOE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well Eclipse is more of an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) which I think having one that works across multiple languages is essential. Emacs was the original IDE, but the GUI gives a lot more to the environment, contextual language reference, interface designing, etc. Though Emacs purists will argue that elisp modules exist to provide those, and they probably do, but GUI interface design tools, most likely they do not. vi is an essential tool to learn though for system administration and quick-n-dirty coding, but to really develop a software system you need an IDE, preferably one that can handle multiple languages, has a GUI designer, language reference tools, and integrates with multiple revision control systems (rcs/cvs, subversion, git). Ross: Thank you, for all of the above. It looks like I need to learn both vi and an IDE, for different tasks. Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware gvim sounds interesting. Thanks! I tried to install it, but it's not in rpmforge. Is it in another yum repository? Yes, in base. It's what you get when you install vim-X11. yum provides \*gvim\* can tell you things like that. Thanks! I've got it now. Installed: vim-X11.i386 2:7.0.109-3.el5.3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++Lanny If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head around constructors, destructors, inheritance, templates (I never did enough of that to get it), et al. It essentially implements a bunch of things we used to do as functions, libraries or modules when we recognized a strong re-usability potential, and formalizes all that to the object oriented model. Good luck on it and I know you'll enjoy it once you see results. snip sig stuff -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Looking for linphone
Where might I find an rpm for Centos? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ext2online / ext2resize
--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext2online / ext2resize To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 5:42 PM On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 18:32 -0700, Al Sparks wrote: I'm running CentOS 5.2 x x86_64. I did an lvextend of a logical volume, and proceeded to run one of the ext2 utilities (e.g. ext2online, ext2resize) and found to my surprise that it wasn't on there. Did you mean resize2fs? Yes, I did. I found the program. Thanks. === Al ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++Lanny If you have C experience, it'll be quick once you get your head around constructors, destructors, inheritance, templates (I never did enough of that to get it), et al. It essentially implements a bunch of things we used to do as functions, libraries or modules when we recognized a strong re-usability potential, and formalizes all that to the object oriented model. Good luck on it and I know you'll enjoy it once you see results. Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to enter the 21st century now. C++ is a lot to learn and it looks like a lot of it has to do with the way things are done in OOP. The book is very long (878 pages) but well regarded. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Nifty Cluster Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 05:04:16PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! gvim There is almost no pain if you stick with gvim (vim). The help is full of helpfull stuff, the mouse works, syntax and keyword aware Thank you! gvim is slick. As you wrote, it has lots of help and it will be easy to learn how to use vi, by learning on gvim. Better than holding a cheat sheet or having a book open, trying to figure out what to do, when learning. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Looking for linphone
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 11:04 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: snip Vi or vim. I think Emacs would just cloud my mind, when I'm trying to absorb C++Lanny snip Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to Ditto - IBM 360/370. Some things never leave. BALR 14, save area trace register 13, etc. I still love assembly. Speed and efficiency were my big thing. enter the 21st century now. C++ is a lot to learn and it looks like a lot of it has to do with the way things are done in OOP. The book is very long (878 pages) but well regarded. Yes, OOP is the whole purpose of C++. When it first came out, I dismissed it as fluff (OOP was really new then and initial specs and implementations had not much power). By the time C95 came out, things had started to look more useful. By now (I've not looked in a long time) I'm sure it deserves its highly regarded status. snip sig stuff Well, don't want to pollute the list further. I'll just say that you should grab some small snippets of a real application to peruse as you go through the book. It will help assimilation (no, not the Borg kind!) immensely. Enjoy! -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vaclav Mocek little.owl-PkL3B3/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! snip I suggest to install Eclipse and CDT plugin and you get a full IDE http://www.eclipse.org/cdt/ I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. Then you shouldn't go wrong, because I have yet to be on a linux box or a bsd box that didn't have some form or emulation of vi installed. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. Not directly, but you can add up all the entries mounted from /dev with a simple awk statement: df -kl | awk '/^\/dev\// { avail += $3/1024 } END { printf(%d Mb used\n,avail)} ' -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
Dear Sean, No, there isn't. You'd have to parse the df output to get that value. I suggest using the -P switch to df, so you don't have to deal with multi-line output per filesystem. The following will return kilobytes of disk space used (third column in the df -kP output): df -kP |grep -v ^Filesystem |awk '{sum += $3} END { print sum; } ' Best, -at On 8/11/08, Sean Carolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
df -kl | awk '/^\/dev\// { avail += $3/1024 } END { printf(%d Mb used\n,avail)} ' Awesome, this is going into my bag of goodies. Thanks! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:07:09PM -0700, Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: value. I suggest using the -P switch to df, so you don't have to deal with multi-line output per filesystem. Ugh, hasn't RedHat fixed that? Sun have (for a long time) automatically done this if stdout is not a terminal. *sigh*. So my previous mail should really be df -Pkl | awk '/^\/dev\// { avail += $3/1024 } END { printf(%d Mb used\n,avail)} ' -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone
on 8-11-2008 10:57 AM Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams spake the following: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. Most of centos.karan.org for EL5 is in the testing repo AFAIK. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
As long as you only want the absolute amount of data (not the percentage of total file space that is used) you could use du -sh / on that server. --On 11. August 2008 14:00:09 -0500 Sean Carolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone
Scott Silva wrote: on 8-11-2008 10:57 AM Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams spake the following: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:49 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where might I find an rpm for Centos? RPMForge for EL4, centos.karan.org for EL5. Most of centos.karan.org for EL5 is in the testing repo AFAIK. And nowhere in centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/i386/RPMS or centos.karan.org/el5/misc/testing/i386/RPMS am I finding linphone ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And nowhere in centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/i386/RPMS or centos.karan.org/el5/misc/testing/i386/RPMS am I finding linphone google found me... http://centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/x86_64/RPMS/linphone-0.12.2-7.x86_64.rpm but not the i386 version. /me shrugs ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
mcedit yum install mc and you can start using it. Can't get more intuitive than that. I use it for PHP and C programming, and shell scripting. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? That's the sort of question where, if you ask ten people for their opinion, you will get sixteen different answers. At least. I personally use either vi or nedit, depending on what the current environment is and what I'm trying to accomplish. OK, I'm the second of the sixteen answers. I use vi and elvis (GUI editor 100% compatible with vi). I highly recommend you learn vi. You will never regret :-D I also recommend you learn vi. There are one reason which is not vi related and I want to point it out here. People using vi usually work on terminal ... if your are Linux or Win32/MinGW+MSYS user ... you are probably using 'bash'. The 'bash' has a edit mode called vi mode which allow you to edit command history via vi's search command '/' or '?'. If you are using terminal command a lot ... this feature is your friend. It's a lot of better than using arrow key to fetch back the command history. So, learn vi ... and you can share the same command when using terminal/bash. Regards KC Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Looking for linphone
John R Pierce wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And nowhere in centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/i386/RPMS or centos.karan.org/el5/misc/testing/i386/RPMS am I finding linphone google found me... http://centos.karan.org/el5/extras/testing/x86_64/RPMS/linphone-0.12.2-7.x86_64.rpm but not the i386 version. /me shrugs let me investigate, I recall there was a lib issue at the time. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] df to get total disk usage on all filesystems?
Sean Carolan wrote: Is there a flag for the df command to get the total disk space used on all filesystems as one number? I have a server with a lot of mounted shares. I'm looking for a simple way to measure rate of data growth across all shares as one total value. You've had a few replies as to the actual command(s) to use to achieve this, but what about looking at it from a different perspective? Is having one number useful for different data volumes? If one is a SQL database that remains static, and another is a shared disk used by the marketing department and its usage changes by gigs a week, then you're not really able to judge when a particular disk is going to need more capacity. One overall number has very limited use. Of course maybe that really is what you're after, in which case all this is redundant.. :) But another way to measure usage would be to feed the data daily (or weekly, or hourly, or whatever) into something like RRD Tool. Then it will come up with some pretty graphs of usage per disk. Then you can also calculate the total as well as another field, but I believe that separate data volumes warrant measuring separately. RRD Tool can be a bit complex to talk to directly, but if you use something like Cacti (http://www.cacti.net/), then I think you will get more value out of your data. I've never used Cacti myself, but it looks like a very nice package. And it makes talking to RRD Tool much easier. That and you can produce lots of pretty graphs for management that prove you need upgrades and more imortantly, *where*. :) -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923www.knossos.net.nz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: snip I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. Then you shouldn't go wrong, because I have yet to be on a linux box or a bsd box that didn't have some form or emulation of vi installed. vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or another IDE too, so there's another learning curve. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mcedit yum install mc and you can start using it. Can't get more intuitive than that. I use it for PHP and C programming, and shell scripting. I think a friend used Midnight Commander, years ago. On Wikipedia, their description explains some interesting capabilities. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Kuang-Chun Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:16 -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? snip I also recommend you learn vi. There are one reason which is not vi related and I want to point it out here. People using vi usually work on terminal ... if your are Linux or Win32/MinGW+MSYS user ... you are probably using 'bash'. The 'bash' has a edit mode called vi mode which allow you to edit command history via vi's search command '/' or '?'. If you are using terminal command a lot ... this feature is your friend. It's a lot of better than using arrow key to fetch back the command history. So, learn vi ... and you can share the same command when using terminal/bash. Thank you for pointing that out! Yes, bash is the shell. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?) [Going OT]
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 12:38 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Not much C experience. I'm an old Assembly Language guy. Trying to Ditto - IBM 360/370. Some things never leave. BALR 14, save area trace register 13, etc. I still love assembly. Speed and efficiency were my big thing. I began with IBM 360/65 ALC on an airline reservation system snip I finished the first chapter of the book. It is excellent. The author obviously worked in industry and knows what it is like, working in the real world. Yes, OOP is the whole purpose of C++. When it first came out, I dismissed it as fluff (OOP was really new then and initial specs and implementations had not much power). By the time C95 came out, things had started to look more useful. By now (I've not looked in a long time) I'm sure it deserves its highly regarded status. From reading the first chapter, I'm sure that is true. He wrote that 50 to 70% of projects end in failure. OOP should reduce that percentage. Well, don't want to pollute the list further. I'll just say that you should grab some small snippets of a real application to peruse as you go through the book. It will help assimilation (no, not the Borg kind!) immensely. I'll ask a former manager/colleague if he happens to have any code from a project he worked on that isn't classified, that he can send me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is really appreciated. Thanks. - -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 13:10:54 up 5:02, 2.6.24-18-generic GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org The real challenge of teaching is getting your students motivated to learn. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIoN7d8TneBL/L6RoRAop3AJ9zTBbGGQ0lcPUnMSGYIelcHO+dNgCcD1pu wFKECD19DsWW5sWHHanjIbQ= =U4Rw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On 08/10/08 15:04, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! I'm a Vim user myself, but I noticed one of our engineers using an editor which looked pretty nice. It's called geany: http://geany.uvena.de/ Looks like DAG has packaged it: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/geany/ -- Tim Utschig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408-934-3754 (desk) 408-644-3861 (cell) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 18:03 -0700, Tim Utschig wrote: On 08/10/08 15:04, Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm a Newbie Desktop user, jumping into the deep end of the pool. Should I try to learn vi (Vim) (which obviously will help me, if I ever need to administer a remote box) or install Emacs or something else, for the gcc editor? An easy learning curve is strongly preferred, but, I am 100% aware of the advantages of vi. Recommendations? TIA! I'm a Vim user myself, but I noticed one of our engineers using an editor which looked pretty nice. It's called geany: http://geany.uvena.de/ geany is great; I use it all the time. The only issue I have with it is that it doesn't support gnome-vfs so you can't connect directly to a remote server and edit files there. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is really appreciated. For managing my network of servers(assuming what you mean since your posting to a CentOS list and not a network equipment list), I use CFengine to manage them(www.cfengine.org). Puppet(t?) is also increasing in popularity as well(don't know the web site and doing a google search didn't come up with anything obvious). For a ticketing system I suggest Request Tracker(RT) (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt). For monitoring I use a combination of an extremely customized cacti[collects 10+ million points a day](www.cacti.net) and Nagios(www.nagios.org). For documentation I highly recommend confluence (http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/). nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or another IDE too, so there's another learning curve. I've been using vi (and vim and gvim) for more than twenty years and I've never needed an IDE. They're helpful in some situations, but if you're programming on a UNIX/Linux platform, vi can be enough. There is even a way to get vi to coordinate with some compilers such that you land on the line where a syntax error occurs, but even that wasn't required. Vi is not the world's best editor, but it is in every single UNIX or Linux system out there, and there are advantages in knowing how to use it. I've used it long enough that I'm just not interested in other editors. As for IDEs, a great deal of what you need one for can often be accomplished just by having several windows open for the various tasks one needs for debugging. My $0.02, and it's not available for spending on editor wars. :-) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Suggestion on Network Management software with troubleticket system
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking for a network management software. And as the network grows it clearly becomes that manual notes is getting too tedious. Also an integrated troube ticketing systemm would be great. Any reference is really appreciated. OpenNMS is pretty good for network monitoring (http://www.opennms.org). It isn't tightly integrated with a trouble ticket system but some work has been mentioned on the mail list about tying it to RT. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Name is coded in /etc/hosts Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Name is coded in /etc/hosts Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature? I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts... you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Name is coded in /etc/hosts Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature? I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts... you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like: 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3 p3490.htt I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt' But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Name is coded in /etc/hosts Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature? I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts... you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like: 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3 p3490.htt I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt' But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work perhaps apache doesn't know how to handle that name (presuming that you have a colon to make it a valid URL). does netstat show that apache is listening on ipv6 address? Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2, Firefox 3, and IPv6
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 00:15 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 23:28 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:11 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am doing some testing and it almost seems as if Firefox 3.0.1 that comes with Centos 5.2 is NOT working with IPv6. Anyone know for sure? I am getting weird hang behaviours and other just not working things. more likely a DNS issue Name is coded in /etc/hosts Of course the fqdn I am using does NOT follow 'standard' TLDs, but it should NOT be masking that, or would that be a 'security' feature? I have no clue what you are talking about being coded in /etc/hosts... you can check DNS if it returns ipV6 addresses for hosts or if there are snags/delays in trying to resolve names from command line p3490.htt is in my /etc/hosts file as something like: 2701:24:2:1:0:1:2:3 p3490.htt I can 'ping6 -n p3490.htt' But putting a url of http//p3490.htt does not work do you have a line in /etc/hosts like... ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 and if so, can you connect to http://localhost6 Craig ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos