Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Chris * wrote:
 
 I had submitted a document to this list a few weeks back that gave
 instructions for whole disk encryption which would cover /tmp /home
 /swap and everything other than /boot.  I did not ask for space in the
 wiki because i thought it was waiting for peer review for accuracy.
 That entire thread seemed to simply die so I haven't pursued the wiki
 any further.  I already have this document in a wiki format at work
 and would be happy to submit it to the CentOS wiki should it pass
 muster.  The contents of my last post are:

Ooops, that must have slipped by me, sorry. Got a wiki account?


 Whole (Most) Disk Encryption on CentOS 5

Good. I'm going to move the TipsAndTricks EnctyptedFileSystem to the
HowTo section also, and we can create that page too.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-17 Thread Max Hetrick

Max Hetrick wrote:
To further explain things, MoinMoin starts off headers with = Title 1 = 
and here's the problem with the html2wiki converter, it actually doesn't 
convert the h1 correctly with how I would logically think it should work.


I contacted the Perl developer of HTML-WikiConverter-MoinMoin and 
explained the problem. It's definitely a bug in the converter dialect.


The author asked me to file a bug report for him on CPAN, so I did so. 
In the meantime, I'll use Filipe's sed script to get the output needed. 
In case anyone else is using this, I wanted to follow up.


Changes were made to the encryption page, as well as corrections to the 
rest of my pages. When you get a chance, Marcus, take a look and make 
sure the formatting is correct.


Thanks.
Max

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-17 Thread Tru Huynh
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:41:12PM -0400, Chris * wrote:
 
 I had submitted a document to this list a few weeks back that gave
...
nice write-up, minor typo/corrections in the text added below.

Cheers,

Tru
 Summary
...
 
 Step One: Prepare the disk
 The first step is to prepare the disk. The installer partitioning software
 doesn't have the flexibility to be able to do this, so you will need to
 switch to the shell and perform the setup manually.

to be verified: you need to make a GUI install, the text mode installation
method does not have the lvm creation feature.

 Once the installer has moved into the GUI, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a command 
 prompt.
...
 
 Use fdisk to create the partitions for install. You will need to create a
 /boot partition and an LVM partition at the end of the disk. The gap in
 between the two partitions will become your encrypted file-system. This
 document will refer to the boot partition as /dev/sda1 and the install
 partition at the end of the disk as /dev/sda3. The encrypted partition will
 become /dev/sda2.

imho, should be emphasized - and some figures hinted for the minimal size of 
sda3 (swap+/)

 The partition at the end of the disk should be smaller than the empty space
 between /boot and your LVM partition so that there is room for the meta-data
 associated with the encryption. The LVM partition really only needs to be
 large enough to install the system. You will be able to expand the system
 volumes if you like after you have a working, encrypted system.
 
...
 
 Step Two: Installing the OS
 The installation must be done using the graphical installer because the text 
 installer doesn't allow a custom installation to use LVM.
should be placed above, since the installer has already started.

...
 
 Step Three: Create the encrypted partition
 
 Step Four: Configure mkinitrd for encrypted system

 Make a backup copy of /sbin/mkinitrd. Future updates of the mkinitrd package
 will overwrite it, but the changes will allow future kernel updates to
 properly build an initrd. Modify /sbin/mkinitrd per the patch below. The
 patch modifies the MODULES line so that initrd has the proper modules for
 encryption, adds cryptsetup to initrd, and configures initrd to open the
 encrypted file-system.
 
make patch file available a the command to apply it:
wget http://../mkinitrd.patch -O /tmp/mkintrd.patch
cd /  patch -p1  /tmp/mkinitd.patch

 Enter the pass-phrase. Now you can copy the contents of sda3 to the encrypted 
 sda2.
 
  # dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/mapper/lvm
non dd version?
vgextend + pvmove + vgreduce ?

 NOTE: To make the encrypted system the default system, make the above lines 
 the first block listed in grub.conf
or set the default value 

 Once the encrypted system is confirmed to be working correctly, remove the
 unencrypted system. Randomize /dev/hda3 by using either shred or dd. Once
 ^ sda3
 Use the fdisk command to resize sda2 to fill the entire disk.
 
...
 
  # pvresize –-setphysicalvolumesize [size of disk - /boot] /dev/mapper/lvm
why not just pvresize /dev/mapper/lvm ?
should it detect the size by itself?
 Extend the logical volumes of the system with lvextend. man lvextend for more 
 information on the command.
 
  # lvextend -L +[size to increase the volume] /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
 
same question, here (autodetection) if you only want to extend a single logical 
volume.
lvextend /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00


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RE: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home

2008-10-17 Thread Chris *
Another post asked if I have a wiki account.  The answer is no.  I think that 
at this point it would be better if i did for this article.

In response to some of the points by Tru:

 to be verified: you need to make a GUI install, the text mode installation
 method does not have the lvm creation feature.

Very true, Tru.  This detail is actually a hold-over from one of the documents 
that I used as a source.  I have not actually tried a text-mode install but it 
should definitely be verified.

imho, should be emphasized - and some figures hinted for the minimal size of 
sda3 (swap+/)

Emphasis is not a problem.  As for the size of sda3, I can try to clarify the 
sizes.  The document states that sda3 should be smaller than what will become 
sda2 so that there is room for the encryption overhead, but as for the sizes of 
things such as swap and other partitions, the best I know to do is refer to 
CentOS/RedHat documentation.  I am open to other suggestions.

 make patch file available a the command to apply it:
 wget http://../mkinitrd.patch -O /tmp/mkintrd.patch
 cd /  patch -p1  /tmp/mkinitd.patch

Is there a good place to make it available?  Would something such as 
sourceforge be best?

 non dd version?
 vgextend + pvmove + vgreduce ?

A quick google search found that this would be possible, but there is a 
trade-off.  Section 4.1 of the page 
http://www.planamente.ch/emidio/docs/linux/dm-crypt/dm-crypt-4.html explains 
the trade-off.  It's basically a single dm-crypt device with a single 
passphrase for the entire disk vs multiple dm-crypt devices each with it's own 
passphrase.  If this type of option were to be added to the document, I think 
that it should probably go into the Optional Configurations section so that 
the main document can be a cookie-cutter step by step for people to follow.

   # pvresize –-setphysicalvolumesize [size of disk - /boot] /dev/mapper/lvm
 why not just pvresize /dev/mapper/lvm ?
 should it detect the size by itself?

I believe that it will.  I think I listed the command that way so that it would 
allude to the fact that you don't have to use the entire disk if you didn't 
want.  You can increase the size of /dev/sda2 and still have some space on the 
disk for additional volumes, encrypted devices, etc.  That's what the Optional 
Configurations area tries to detail a little more.

  NOTE: To make the encrypted system the default system, make the above lines 
  the first block listed in grub.conf
 or set the default value 

True.  I phrased that section with the intent that the original grub entries 
would be removed along with the unencrypted install in which case the entry for 
the encrypted system would end up with the at the default value of 0. 

   # lvextend -L +[size to increase the volume] /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
  
 same question, here (autodetection) if you only want to extend a single 
 logical volume.
 lvextend /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00

This was in case LVM was built with multiple logical volumes.  You would want 
to specify the size of each volume that you want to increase so the first one 
doesn't take all space and leave no room for the others to grow.  I  probably 
need to clarify that point.

Chris
 

 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:35:00 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: centos-docs@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Encrypting tmp swap and home
 
 On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:41:12PM -0400, Chris * wrote:
  
  I had submitted a document to this list a few weeks back that gave
 ...
 nice write-up, minor typo/corrections in the text added below.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tru
  Summary
 ...
  
  Step One: Prepare the disk
  The first step is to prepare the disk. The installer partitioning software
  doesn't have the flexibility to be able to do this, so you will need to
  switch to the shell and perform the setup manually.
 
 to be verified: you need to make a GUI install, the text mode installation
 method does not have the lvm creation feature.
 
  Once the installer has moved into the GUI, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a 
  command prompt.
 ...
  
  Use fdisk to create the partitions for install. You will need to create a
  /boot partition and an LVM partition at the end of the disk. The gap in
  between the two partitions will become your encrypted file-system. This
  document will refer to the boot partition as /dev/sda1 and the install
  partition at the end of the disk as /dev/sda3. The encrypted partition will
  become /dev/sda2.
 
 imho, should be emphasized - and some figures hinted for the minimal size of 
 sda3 (swap+/)
 
  The partition at the end of the disk should be smaller than the empty space
  between /boot and your LVM partition so that there is room for the meta-data
  associated with the encryption. The LVM partition really only needs to be
  large enough to install the system. You will be able to expand the system
  volumes if you like after you have a working, encrypted system.
  
 ...
  
  Step Two: Installing the OS
  The installation must be 

RE: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
Craig White  scribbled on Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:24 PM:

 If you are going to go to multiple lists, might I suggest that you have
 1 system-admins list and 1 general-users list and you can tightly
 control the system-admins list.

I think you're on to something here. I assume you mean the general-users list
would have a higher roof, correct?

/S


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[CentOS] avahi and mDNS

2008-10-17 Thread Craig White
Trying to figure out how to make it work. Seems as though it should be
pretty easy.

installed package (from yum search)
avahi-compat-libdns_sd.i386 : Libraries for Apple Bonjour mDNSResponder
compatibility.

/etc/nsswitch.conf altered line so it reads, 
hosts:  files dns mdns mdns4

started avahi-dnsconfd service (don't know that it's needed)

restarted avahi-daemon service

but the syslog says...

Oct 17 00:07:41 srv-adv avahi-daemon[12618]: WARNING: No NSS support for
mDNS detected, consider installing nss-mdns!

and there is no package that I am aware of called nss-mdns, at least yum
search doesn't turn up anything other than the avahi-compat-libdns_sd
that I installed above.

Anyone know what I am missing?

Craig

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[CentOS] CGI configuration - second post

2008-10-17 Thread tech
This is my second request for help with this problem. I have followed 
the suggestions given the first time and made some progress but I still 
have one final problem/question.


I have two CGI scripts that don't work. One is the standard Set-Cookie, 
examples can be found all over the net, that sets a cookie and prints 
Your cookie name is set. The other is an automatic installation script 
that comes from commerce-cgi.com and is for installing their CGI 
shopping cart.


Both of these scripts are now located in /var/www/cgi-bin/ and the 
folder and the scripts are set to apache:apache 755. BTW a setting of 
root:root also fails exactly the same way.


If I run either of these scripts from a browser using www.domain.com it 
fails. If I run it from a browser using 
www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi or 
www.domain.com/cgi-bin/techtest.cgi it works.


I have tried using a one line index.shtml file with that one line being 
either !--#include virtual=/cgi-bin/install.cgi-- or !--#exec 
cgi=/cgi-bin/install.cgi-- and they both fail.


They do find and execute the script. The set cookie script prints the 
Your cookie name is set. message OK but the cookie is not sent to the 
browser. The install script loads the first HTML page ok but does not 
load the second page.


I had a friend-of-a-friend IT guy that I trust look at everything. He 
hasn't found anything obvious. If he tries to run either of these 
scripts from his computer, it works OK.


Can someone here help me understand why this is happening?

Mel

PS posts in other online places (as suggested here) did not get any replies.

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[CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Mark Maskery




I have not found a definitive answer
to this question on the CentOS site yet.

We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in
which, in general, the customer does not have direct access to the
operating system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the
underlying operating system and if so what licence considerations are
there or what licence information would we need to include for our
customers?

Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Spike Turner
Niki Kovacs wrote:

 Given the popularity of this thread, I suggest creating a 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, where folks can discuss
 list-related stuff.


Popular huh? Let as see some stats on the
posts by user

* Karanbir Singh (15)
* Spike Turner (10)
* Spiro Harvey (8)
* Kenneth Price (5)
* Frank Cox (4)
* Bob Taylor (4)
* John Hinton (3)
* MHR (3)

CentOS is supposed to be a community supported
distro unlike the one where some guy respun it
for his library and so could do whatever he 
wanted.

Fedora has not seen a need to split the main list
but has addressed the problem of OT posts or posts
without research in the wiki page
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate
Upstream/Fedora may be blamed by some but the way
they have handled this is real professional.

Who would like the mailing list to be as fragmented
as the CentOS forum? Fragmentation means erosion of
the userbase and is not good for the community.

Spike.

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[CentOS] What keeps logging to my console?

2008-10-17 Thread Dirk H. Schulz

Hi folks,

I have lots of messages like these appearing on my local CentOS 5.2 
consoles:

Oct 17 12:03:29 machine kernel: printk: 1 messages suppressed.
Oct 17 12:03:29 machine kernel: pbond0: received packet with  own address 

as source address

I have disabled console logging in syslog.conf, and even if I shut down 
syslog and kernel logger, the messages keep coming on the local consoles 
(not on remote consoles).


So the question is: What process logs directly to the console bypassing 
syslog/kernel log facilities? How can I find where to stop that?


Thanks for any hint or help.


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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Paul Bijnens

On 2008-10-17 11:30, Jussi Hirvi wrote:

Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
(ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
say, for example

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

and get only argument list too long as feedback.

Is there a way to go round this problem?

I have CentOS 5.2. 


I believe you gave a bad example!
In the command

   rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

the argument list is not at all very long.
However if you did:

   rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp/*

then the argument list could be very long depending on the number of
entries there are in the subdirectory.

You have to understand that globbing is done by the shell before
starting the command.  The result of the glob is what makes the
argument list too long; it needs to fit in a buffer (about
128K bytes on a default CentOS install I believe).

If you want the to remove the subfolders and files, and not the parent
folder itself, on CentOS 5, try this:

   cd /var/amavis/tmp
   rm -rf *

Doing a cd makes the resulting of the globbing much shorter, maybe
fixing your problem already.

If still too long, then try:

   find . -maxdepth 1 -exec rm -rf {} +

You could even try things like:

   cd /var/amavis/tmp
   rm a*
   rm *0
   ...etc...

Any glob pattern resulting in less arguments for the command to avoid
overflowing the 128K buffer is good.

On CentOS 4, the '+' variant of -exec does not exist, and you need to do:

   find . -maxdepth 1 -exec rm -rf {} \; # one rm command for each arg
 or
   find . -maxdepth 1 -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf  # less resource intensive

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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Niki Kovacs

Mark Maskery a écrit :


We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in which, 
in general, the customer does not have direct access to the operating 
system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the underlying 
operating system and if so what licence considerations are there or what 
licence information would we need to include for our customers?


Yes, you are allowed to do that. And if your business runs well, 
consider a donation to CentOS.


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Spike Turner wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
   Out of curiosity which major linux distro operates
   a fragmented mailing list such as the one proposed?
  
  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo
  http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html
  https://lists.ubuntu.com/
  https://ml.mandriva.net/wws/lists
  
  Compared to those CentOS really has few lists.
  
 
 So the need for a new list is to compete with the big 
 boys rather than improving the CentOS community? 

No, I was just answering your question.

 Those are full-flavoured distros with hundreds of thousands if not
 millions of users.

Oh, you know how many users CentOS has? Care to share?

Ralph


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RE: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Geoff Galitz
 piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.

Ok, thanks for ideas, Laurent and Lawrence.

A strange limitation in ls and rm, though. My friend said he hasn't seen
that in Fedora. 


Are you sure you are comparing apples to apples?  There is nothing
particularly Centos specific about this problem.  I've seen it on a variety
of *NIX systems over the years, though I presume some distributions or UNIX
variants may have upped the buffer size.

Here is an interesting blog post which illustrates how you can get into this
kind trouble:

http://stevenroddis.com/2006/10/07/binrm-argument-list-too-long/index.html



-geoff




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Re: [CentOS] CGI configuration - second post

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
tech wrote:
 If I run either of these scripts from a browser using www.domain.com it  
 fails. If I run it from a browser using  
 www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi or  
 www.domain.com/cgi-bin/techtest.cgi it works.

Yes. Look at ScriptAlias in the config. And at the SELinux contexts in
that directory.

 I have tried using a one line index.shtml file with that one line being  
 either !--#include virtual=/cgi-bin/install.cgi-- or !--#exec  
 cgi=/cgi-bin/install.cgi-- and they both fail.

Yikes!

Calling www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi is the correct way, using SSI
together with cgi scripts calls for trouble.

And next time you ask something please include *error* messages.

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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Jussi Hirvi wrote:
 Lawrence Guirre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (17.10.2008 12:55):
  piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.
 
 Ok, thanks for ideas, Laurent and Lawrence.
 
 A strange limitation in ls and rm, though. My friend said he hasn't seen
 that in Fedora. 

Than he doesn't have as many files in the directory as you have:

#define ARG_MAX   131072/* # bytes of args + environ for exec() */

That's from /usr/include/linux/limits.h.
Also see http://partmaps.org/era/unix/arg-max.html

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[CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Jussi Hirvi
Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
(ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
say, for example

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

and get only argument list too long as feedback.

Is there a way to go round this problem?

I have CentOS 5.2. 

- Jussi

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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Jussi Hirvi
Lawrence Guirre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (17.10.2008 12:55):
 piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.

Ok, thanks for ideas, Laurent and Lawrence.

A strange limitation in ls and rm, though. My friend said he hasn't seen
that in Fedora. 

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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Lawrence Guirre

piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.

Jussi Hirvi wrote:

Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
(ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
say, for example

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

and get only argument list too long as feedback.

Is there a way to go round this problem?

I have CentOS 5.2. 


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[CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Jeremy Sanders
Jussi Hirvi wrote:

 Lawrence Guirre ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 kirjoitteli (17.10.2008 12:55):
 piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.
 
 Ok, thanks for ideas, Laurent and Lawrence.
 
 A strange limitation in ls and rm, though. My friend said he hasn't seen
 that in Fedora.

This limitation has been removed from more recent kernels.

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba

http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Argument-list-too-long

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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Laurent Wandrebeck
2008/10/17 Jussi Hirvi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
 (ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
 say, for example

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

 and get only argument list too long as feedback.

 Is there a way to go round this problem?

 I have CentOS 5.2.

 - Jussi
try something like:
for i in /var/amavis/tmp/*
do
rm -rf $i
done

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Re: [CentOS] How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Spike Turner
Marko Vojinovic wrote:

 On Fedora I used to use djvulibre package for djvu files,
 but I cannot seem to find this in any CentOS repositores out
 there. Google also does not help, nor searching list
 archives. :-(
 
 I have found the .rpm file for RHEL 4, but when I tried to
 install it (hoping that it just might work) rpm refused to
 install with the error:
 
 file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop from install
 of djvulibre-3.5.17-1.el4.rf conflicts with file from
 package kdelibs-3.5.4-16.el5.centos
 
 CentOS 5.2, fully updated.
 

You cannot get an rpm for CentOS 4 and hope it will just work
on CentOS 5. What repositories have you got configured as
djvulibre-3.5.17-1.el4.rf is for el4?

Try and use yum with properly configured 3rd party repos 
or you will break your system chunking in rpms from all 
over the place.

See http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:21:50 +0100
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The single CD server install for CentOS 4.7 / i386 has now been released
and is available from all active mirrors. The ISO is available on 
bit-torrent, via the torrent file :
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/isos/i386/CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-i386.torrent

Sha1sum for the torrent file is: 779adf04b554ee01d05520936bb406a16a85d45c

md5sum for the CentOS 4.7 ServerCD / i386 is :
429c3c5d627682d5d9e8084c8e5456cd  CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-i386.iso

sha1sum for the CentOS 4.7 ServerCD / i386 is:
6272d724f0abb95d2a5652724fe6b3740706d543  CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-i386.iso

You can find a local mirror to download from here:

http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4/isos/i386/

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We appreciate all feedback, including RFE's and bug notifications.

Notes:

1. This installer will only work with i686 based cpu's ( no K6, older
Via C2 / C3 support )

2. The included packages are a subset of all packages available in the
CentOS distribution, however yum has been pre-configured to use the
entire repository.

3. In order to ensure that drivers and other third party apps maintain
compatibility, the package set used on the Server CD is from Release
time CentOS 4.7, you are strongly encouraged to run a 'yum update'
immediately after installation.

4. As some of you will notice, the iso size is lower than the 650mb
acceptable for a single CD. Feedback on what other packages should be
aded or removed from this Single CD for the next release are very welcome.


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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:38:34 +0100
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CentOS 4.7 Server CD - x86_64 Released
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The single CD server install for CentOS 4.7 / x86_64 has now been 
released and is available from all active mirrors. The ISO is available 
on bit-torrent, via the torrent file :
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/isos/x86_64/CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-x86_64.torrent

Sha1sum for the torrent file is: 67f17d202957ed7ca0008892aad101f1c9b41956

md5sum for the CentOS 4.7 ServerCD / i386 is :
241218f19994cfae40627e6cd82549e5  CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-x86_64.iso

sha1sum for the CentOS 4.7 ServerCD / i386 is:
a9ce59148663e7697d509ec8c516f864c1912d13  CentOS-4.7.ServerCD-x86_64.iso

You can find a local mirror to download from here:

http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4/isos/x86_64/

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We appreciate all feedback, including RFE's and bug notifications.

Notes:

1. Since there are no 32bit packages included in this CD, the resulting 
install will be 64bit clean.

2. The included packages are a subset of all packages available in the
CentOS distribution, however yum has been pre-configured to use the
entire repository.

3. In order to ensure that drivers and other third party apps maintain
compatibility, the package set used on the Server CD is from Release
time CentOS 4.7, you are strongly encouraged to run a 'yum update'
immediately after installation.

4. As some of you will notice, the iso size is lower than the 650mb
acceptable for a single CD. Feedback on what other packages should be
aded or removed from this Single CD for the next release are very welcome.


Enjoy!

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Spike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who would like the mailing list to be as fragmented
 as the CentOS forum? Fragmentation means erosion of
 the userbase and is not good for the community.

 Spike.

Once again you are referring to the CentOS forum.  Are you saying that
the forums are fragmented and therefore not good for the community
???  What is your point?  By the way, you have not answered my earlier
inquiry:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066494.html

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[CentOS] snmp question v3

2008-10-17 Thread adrian kok
Hi

Do you know whether snmpwalk can work in v3?

if not, how can I get the snmp v3 info

Thank you

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[CentOS] How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Greetings to everyone!

On Fedora I used to use djvulibre package for djvu files, but I cannot seem to 
find this in any CentOS repositores out there. Google also does not help, nor 
searching list archives. :-(

I have found the .rpm file for RHEL 4, but when I tried to install it (hoping 
that it just might work) rpm refused to install with the error:

file /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop from install of 
djvulibre-3.5.17-1.el4.rf conflicts with file from package 
kdelibs-3.5.4-16.el5.centos

I' out of ideas. What package (or viewer) provides djvu functionality?

CentOS 5.2, fully updated.

Best, :-)
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Re: [CentOS] snmp question v3

2008-10-17 Thread Max Hetrick

adrian kok wrote:


Do you know whether snmpwalk can work in v3?

if not, how can I get the snmp v3 info


Yes.

# snmpwalk --help

Look at the following switches then.

-a PROTOCOL
-l LEVEL
-u USER
-x PROTOCOL
-X PASSPHRASE

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Spike Turner
Akemi Yagi  wrote:

 Spike Turner wrote:
 
  Who would like the mailing list to be as fragmented
  as the CentOS forum? Fragmentation means erosion of
  the userbase and is not good for the community.
 
  Spike.
 
 Once again you are referring to the CentOS forum.  Are you
 saying that
 the forums are fragmented and therefore not good for
 the community
 ???  What is your point?  By the way, you have not answered
 my earlier
 inquiry:
 
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066494.html
 

This is my own personal view based on :-

- the differences between the fedora and centos forum
- (the lack of) participation of known members in the 
community in the centos forum as compared to fedora.
- some may not view the centos forum as fragmented
but is the participation at the same level as the
unfragmented mailing list?

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Re: [CentOS] How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic

--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Spike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 You cannot get an rpm for CentOS 4 and hope it will
 just work
 on CentOS 5. What repositories have you got configured as
 djvulibre-3.5.17-1.el4.rf is for el4?

I didn't get this rpm using yum, but by manually downloading it. Yum is 
configured properly:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum repolist
Loading fastestmirror plugin
repo id  repo name status
addons   CentOS-5 - Addons enabled
adobe-linux-i386 Adobe Systems Incorporatedenabled
base CentOS-5 - Base   enabled
epel Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 5 -   enabled
extras   CentOS-5 - Extras enabled
rpmforge Red Hat Enterprise 5 - RPMforge.net - da  enabled
updates  CentOS-5 - Updatesenabled
 
 Try and use yum with properly configured 3rd party repos 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum search djvu
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de
 * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
 * rpmforge: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
 * base: mirror.nsc.liu.se
 * updates: centosh.centos.org
 * addons: centosh.centos.org
 * extras: mirror.nsc.liu.se
No Matches found

So yum does not help here, or I need another repository which has djvulibre 
package for CentOS 5.2, or some other way to be able to view djvu files. Please 
give some advise on this.

 or you will break your system chunking in rpms from all 
 over the place.

I am aware of this. In general I prefer using yum over any other option, but it 
seems I am out of usual options here, so I've tried the less viable ones (and 
was not successful).
 
Best, :-)
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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Karanbir Singh

Mark Maskery wrote:
We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in which, 
in general, the customer does not have direct access to the operating 
system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the underlying 
operating system and if so what licence considerations are there or what 
licence information would we need to include for our customers?


CentOS as a distribution is shipped under the GPL license. So your app 
would need to comply with and be compatible with the GPL license and all 
the issues that come with that. You should speak to a lawyer about what 
the implications might be.


There are also specific considerations and requirements to using CentOS 
including the logo and name. I believe this is some information about 
that on the website.


To the best of my knowledge, there is no one present on this list who 
would be able to give you definitive legal advice for your specific 
circumstances.


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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Spike Turner wrote on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:28:17 -0700 (PDT):

 Popular huh?

You didn't get the subtile irony?

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
The two subnets are not physically connected but a Client should be
able to connect to Subnet A or to Subnet B as well.

JohnStanley Writes:
This is what is confusing. If there *NOT* Physically Connected you will
never CONNECT to them. Hope you can calculate SNs ans SNMs. You can add as
many Nested code blocks you need for Subnets. My advice for you is to use
the 10.x.x.x range of addys to give you more subnets to work with. So give
this a go.

option domain-name YOU.com; 
option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1, 193.190.63.172
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; # Global Subnet mask
default-lease-time 600; 
max-lease-time 7200; 

# Here is Subnet number 1.
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.240 { # Subnet for first 13 devices,
10 of which are servers, 3 printers
 range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.13;  # Range of IP's for our printers only.
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.240;
 option broadcast-address 192.168.0.15; # This is the subnets broadcast
address.
 option routers 192.168.0.14; # The gateway of this subnet.
 option time-servers 192.168.0.14; # Gateway is running a timeserver.
 option ntp-servers 192.168.0.14; # Gateway running a timeserver.
}

# Here is Subnet number 2.
subnet 192.168.0.16 netmask 255.255.255.224 { # Subnet for 29 computers
 range 192.168.0.17 192.168.0.45;
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.224;
 option broadcast-address 192.168.0.47;
 option routers 192.168.0.46;
}
group {
 host server1 { # the first fixed server for subnet 192.168.0.0/28
  server-name server1;
  hardware ethernet  0a:23:f2:56:33:x0;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.1;
 }
 host server2 {
  server-name server2;
  hardware ethernet 0a:23:f2:56:33:x0;
  fixed-address 192.168.0.2;
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Re: [CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

Jeremy Sanders wrote:


piping ls to xargs should do the trick. man xargs for details.

Ok, thanks for ideas, Laurent and Lawrence.

A strange limitation in ls and rm, though. My friend said he hasn't seen
that in Fedora.


This limitation has been removed from more recent kernels.

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba

http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Argument-list-too-long


It is probably still best not to expect the ability to build infinitely 
long command lines.   You can hit some other limit eventually.


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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Jussi Hirvi
Yes, you are right - my example was misleading.

Thanks for the very easy solution (cd into directory). Have to try it the
next time. 

- Jussi

Paul Bijnens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (17.10.2008 13:18):
 I believe you gave a bad example!
 In the command
 
 rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp
 
 the argument list is not at all very long.
 However if you did:
 
 rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp/*
 
 then the argument list could be very long depending on the number of
 entries there are in the subdirectory.

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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

Karanbir Singh wrote:


We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in 
which, in general, the customer does not have direct access to the 
operating system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the 
underlying operating system and if so what licence considerations are 
there or what licence information would we need to include for our 
customers?


CentOS as a distribution is shipped under the GPL license.


Which means you need to either give source or a written offer to supply 
it on demand for 3 years.


So your app 
would need to comply with and be compatible with the GPL license and all 
the issues that come with that.


Programs that are 'aggregated' by inclusion on the same media aren't 
necessarily affected by the OS license.  The GPL requirements are only 
inherited if your application is derived from a GPL work, as for 
example, by including libraries covered by the GPL (and most, but not 
all have the more liberal LGPL, so you have to check this carefully 
whether you supply the OS or not).


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Re: [CentOS] How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Spike Turner
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 
 So yum does not help here, or I need another repository
 which has djvulibre package for CentOS 5.2, or some other
 way to be able to view djvu files. Please give some advise
 on this.
 

A quick glance at the kbs repo http://centos.karan.org/
shows an rpm in testing djvulibre-3.5.19-4.el5.kb.i386.rpm
but you can have a glance at the repoview.

Also configure the yum plugins and the priorities of which 
the details are on the CentOS wiki.

Hope this helps!

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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Mark Maskery




Thank you for your input Les.

Mark

 Original Message 
From: Les Mikesell
Sent: 17/10/2008 14:02:

  Karanbir Singh wrote:
 
 We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in 
 which, in general, the customer does not have direct access to the 
 operating system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the 
 underlying operating system and if so what licence considerations are 
 there or what licence information would we need to include for our 
 customers?
 
 CentOS as a distribution is shipped under the GPL license.

Which means you need to either give source or a written offer to supply 
it on demand for 3 years.

 So your app 
 would need to comply with and be compatible with the GPL license and all 
 the issues that come with that.

Programs that are 'aggregated' by inclusion on the same media aren't 
necessarily affected by the OS license.  The GPL requirements are only 
inherited if your application is derived from a GPL work, as for 
example, by including libraries covered by the GPL (and most, but not 
all have the more liberal LGPL, so you have to check this carefully 
whether you supply the OS or not).

  



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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Mark Maskery




Thanks for your response Karanbir.
I will be putting this through our legal team.

Mark

 Original Message 
From: Karanbir Singh
Sent: 17/10/2008 13:30:

  Mark Maskery wrote:
 We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in which, 
 in general, the customer does not have direct access to the operating 
 system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the underlying 
 operating system and if so what licence considerations are there or what 
 licence information would we need to include for our customers?

CentOS as a distribution is shipped under the GPL license. So your app 
would need to comply with and be compatible with the GPL license and all 
the issues that come with that. You should speak to a lawyer about what 
the implications might be.

There are also specific considerations and requirements to using CentOS 
including the logo and name. I believe this is some information about 
that on the website.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no one present on this list who 
would be able to give you definitive legal advice for your specific 
circumstances.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Spike Turner wrote on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:19:36 -0700 (PDT):

 - some may not view the centos forum as fragmented
 but is the participation at the same level as the
 unfragmented mailing list?

Couldn't it be that some people simply prefer email over HTML forums? 
Especially those that have less time for answering other's questions?

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 08:32, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 # Here is Subnet number 2.
 subnet 192.168.0.16 netmask 255.255.255.224 { # Subnet for 29 computers

Isn't this wrong? If the netmask is .224, it should be either
192.168.0.0-31 or 192.168.0.32-63. 192.168.0.16 does not make sense
here.

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[CentOS] Re: CGI configuration - second post

2008-10-17 Thread tech

 Ralph Angenendt wrote:

And next time you ask something please include *error* messages.


Ralph,

Sorry. I should have said that there is nothing in the error log. I have 
 entries in the access log but not the error log. I had one before but 
I did a complete format and re-install and it is gone.


Let me also say that SELinux is OFF.

ScriptAlias is set and I believe it is correct.

I have gone over httpd.conf carefully and had someone else look at it. 
The obvious things seem to be OK.


I did go back and verify one thing, when the IT guy was testing and it 
worked for him, he was using www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi and not

just www.domain.com. That also failed for him.

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Re: [CentOS] What keeps logging to my console?

2008-10-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 12:13 +0200, Dirk H. Schulz wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I have lots of messages like these appearing on my local CentOS 5.2 
 consoles:
  Oct 17 12:03:29 machine kernel: printk: 1 messages suppressed.
  Oct 17 12:03:29 machine kernel: pbond0: received packet with  own address 
 as source address

 I have disabled console logging in syslog.conf, and even if I shut down 
 syslog and kernel logger, the messages keep coming on the local consoles 
 (not on remote consoles).

This has nothing to do with syslog.  These are kernel printk messages.
They also go to syslog for logging in files but they go straight to the
kernel console as defined at bootup.  Unless you have configured serial
consoles, the console for the kernel is the virtual terminals.

 So the question is: What process logs directly to the console bypassing 
 syslog/kernel log facilities? How can I find where to stop that?

It's the kernel itself.

In a VC:

setterm --msg off

man setterm:

   -msg [on|off] (virtual consoles only)
  Enables or disables the sending of kernel printk()
  messages to the console.

 Thanks for any hint or help.
 
 
 Dirk

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[CentOS] question

2008-10-17 Thread Jerry Geis

I am trying to increment a filename in a script example name is 01.txt
and I need to keep the leading 0's. I have no problem if the name was 
1.txt, 2.txt etc...

var=`expr $var + 1`

however how do I keep the leading 0's?

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] question

2008-10-17 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:52:15AM -0400, Jerry Geis enlightened us:
 I am trying to increment a filename in a script example name is 01.txt
 and I need to keep the leading 0's. I have no problem if the name was 
 1.txt, 2.txt etc...
 var=`expr $var + 1`
 
 however how do I keep the leading 0's?
 

printf

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Re: [CentOS] CGI configuration - second post

2008-10-17 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Tech wrote on Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:34:02 +0800:

 I did go back and verify one thing, when the IT guy was testing and it 
 worked for him, he was using www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi and not
 just www.domain.com. That also failed for him.

Of course, it does. If you have a URL http://www.example.com/path/file.htm 
and you want to have this file served when someone goes to 
http://www.example.com/ you have to do something to make this happen. 
There is no magic that will read your mind and then do that for you. So, 
if I interpreted your problem correctly you want to go to the newsgroup 
comp.infosystems.servers.www.unix and ask there the following:

I have a script http://www.domain.com/cgi-bin/install.cgi that works fine. 
Now I would like to have it called when someone accesses 
http://www.domain.com/. How can I achieve this with my apache version 
x.y.z. on CentOS z.y.x?

That's just four lines, no lame excuses, no lengthy description of non-
related stuff. And in the right place. *This* list is *not* the right 
place.

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[CentOS] Re: question

2008-10-17 Thread Jerry Geis


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:52:15AM -0400, Jerry Geis enlightened us:
/ I am trying to increment a filename in a script example name is 01.txt
// and I need to keep the leading 0's. I have no problem if the name was 
// 1.txt, 2.txt etc...

// var=`expr $var + 1`
// 
// however how do I keep the leading 0's?
// 
/

printf
  

perfect - thanks,

Jerry

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Re: [CentOS] How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Marko Vojinovic
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Spike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A quick glance at the kbs repo http://centos.karan.org/
 shows an rpm in testing djvulibre-3.5.19-4.el5.kb.i386.rpm
 but you can have a glance at the repoview.

Aha! Ok, I was not aware of the kbs repo. I see the djvulibre in testing, so 
will try it out. Hopefully there is not too much to be broken in it... :-)

Thanks! :-)
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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Spike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Akemi Yagi  wrote:

 Spike Turner wrote:

  Who would like the mailing list to be as fragmented
  as the CentOS forum? Fragmentation means erosion of
  the userbase and is not good for the community.
 
  Spike.

 Once again you are referring to the CentOS forum.  Are you
 saying that
 the forums are fragmented and therefore not good for
 the community
 ???  What is your point?  By the way, you have not answered
 my earlier
 inquiry:

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-October/066494.html


 This is my own personal view based on :-

 - the differences between the fedora and centos forum
 - (the lack of) participation of known members in the
 community in the centos forum as compared to fedora.
 - some may not view the centos forum as fragmented
 but is the participation at the same level as the
 unfragmented mailing list?

 Spike.

Thanks for your reply.  I wanted to know why you referred to the
CentOS forums in relation to the subject of splitting the mailing
list.

I can go on with my response to your personal view, but doing so would
be way off-topic here in this thread.  Therefore, I started an open
discussion session in the right place for this topic - not
surprisingly - in the CentOS forum:

http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=16821forum=18

So, people who are interested, please join in and post your comments
and thoughts.

Thanks,

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[CentOS] Recommended Configuration Control Software?

2008-10-17 Thread Sean Carolan
We have several dozen production Linux servers and I would like to
have better control over what files are changed, by whom, when they
were changed, etc.  Because these are all production servers that are
in use 24x7, we do not have the luxury of simply doing a clean build,
taking md5sums of each file, and then doing fresh installations.  I
need a system that can take in-place snapshots of each server's
configuration files, store them in some kind of database or text file,
and notify me whenever something changes.

I've used tripwire in the past - do you have any other recommendations
for this type of project?
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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:37, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On subnet 192.168.0.16 with a mask of 255.255.255.224 will give enuff ips
 for 29 clients. One for the broadcast addy.

I think you are mistaken here, with netmask 255.255.255.224 you can
have network 192.168.0.0 (from 0 to 31) and 192.168.0.32 (from 32 to
63), but not 192.168.0.16 going up to 47. The address and netmask must
align, if you configure 192.168.0.16/255.255.255.224 you will actually
have a network that goes from 0 to 31, not 16 to 47.

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John wrote:
  # Here is Subnet number 2. subnet 192.168.0.16 netmask
  255.255.255.224 { # Subnet for 29 computers

 Isn't this wrong? If the netmask is .224, it should be either
 192.168.0.0-31 or 192.168.0.32-63. 192.168.0.16 does not make sense
 here.

  On subnet 192.168.0.16 with a mask of 255.255.255.224 will give
  enuff ips for 29 clients. One for the broadcast addy. Primary subnet
  would be 192.168.x.x.0 wich can only handle 254 clients. X.16
  is just taken from that SN and subnetted out into a different
  allocation block. I slapped it in there hopping the OP would see the
  that other subnets ways to configure it.  Good catch

Yeah, but you cannot really subnet that way:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ipcalc.pl 192.168.0.16/255.255.255.224
Address:   192.168.0.16 1100.10101000..000 1
Netmask:   255.255.255.224 = 27 ...111 0
Wildcard:  0.0.0.31 ...000 1
=
Network:   192.168.0.0/27   1100.10101000..000 0
HostMin:   192.168.0.1  1100.10101000..000 1
HostMax:   192.168.0.30 1100.10101000..000 0
Broadcast: 192.168.0.31 1100.10101000..000 1
Hosts/Net: 30Class C, Private Internet

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS] Recommended Configuration Control Software?

2008-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Sean Carolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have several dozen production Linux servers and I would like to
 have better control over what files are changed, by whom, when they
 were changed, etc.  Because these are all production servers that are
 in use 24x7, we do not have the luxury of simply doing a clean build,
 taking md5sums of each file, and then doing fresh installations.  I
 need a system that can take in-place snapshots of each server's
 configuration files, store them in some kind of database or text file,
 and notify me whenever something changes.


aide comes with CentOS 4/5 and does part of what you want by doing
various checksums. Tripwire will also compile for those too. The issue
will be that you will want to turn off prelinking and you will want to
make sure that you have configured either program to watch those
programs. You can add in audit on EL-5 with a policy setup
(capp/niscom/customize) to watch those files and log who/what/when the
program was changed by.

However none of the programs stores originals of the config files etc
as you are wanting. In that case, your best bet is to turn the problem
around and have the config files you want on the servers, and push
them out from a central box. Then have the audit programs see if
something outside of your central management changed the program.


 I've used tripwire in the past - do you have any other recommendations
 for this type of project?
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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
 # Here is Subnet number 2.
 subnet 192.168.0.16 netmask 255.255.255.224 { # Subnet for 29 computers

Isn't this wrong? If the netmask is .224, it should be either
192.168.0.0-31 or 192.168.0.32-63. 192.168.0.16 does not make sense
here.

Filipe

JohnStanley Writes:
On subnet 192.168.0.16 with a mask of 255.255.255.224 will give enuff ips
for 29 clients. One for the broadcast addy. Primary subnet would be
192.168.x.x.0 wich can only handle 254 clients. X.16 is just taken from that
SN and subnetted out into a different allocation block. I slapped it in
there hopping the OP would see the that other subnets ways to configure it.
Good catch 

For 30 hosts per SN it would be x.1 - x.30 and x.30 being the broadcast
addy. So your real close. You making me think to early in the day and made
me get my calculator out.

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Re: [CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

Akemi Yagi wrote:


I can go on with my response to your personal view, but doing so would
be way off-topic here in this thread.  Therefore, I started an open
discussion session in the right place for this topic - not
surprisingly - in the CentOS forum:


How can a forum possibly be the right place to discuss what people care 
about in mailing lists?  At least until someone sets up a gateway...


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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
Isn't this wrong? If the netmask is .224, it should be either
192.168.0.0-31 or 192.168.0.32-63. 192.168.0.16 does not make sense
here.


JohnStanley Writes: Follow Up to Previous Mail!!

Filipe,

To early in the day for all this math. Your right saying x.31 -  x.63 for
that particular SN, with x.63 being the broadcast addy and x.31 the network
addy. Had to think about it a little, rough day. Just put an address in
there for visual anatomy so the OP could get a picture off it. Good to know
soemone is payin attention.

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John

Felipe,
JohnStanley Writes.

Whoops, you Hit Send A little to Soon. Only if you waited.

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Re: [CentOS] Recommended Configuration Control Software?

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

Sean Carolan wrote:

We have several dozen production Linux servers and I would like to
have better control over what files are changed, by whom, when they
were changed, etc.  Because these are all production servers that are
in use 24x7, we do not have the luxury of simply doing a clean build,
taking md5sums of each file, and then doing fresh installations.  I
need a system that can take in-place snapshots of each server's
configuration files, store them in some kind of database or text file,
and notify me whenever something changes.


Anything that is installed via RPM is already databased and tracked.  if 
you edit something you have to track it yourself.  I don't know of a 
good tool for this.  For the things I edit frequently and the changes 
aren't obvious (like DNS zone files), I commit the changes to a CVS 
server that has viewcvs for easy browsing and diff-ing against earlier 
versions.



I've used tripwire in the past - do you have any other recommendations
for this type of project?


Tripwire doesn't help when you need to put things back the way they were 
a version or two back.  Backups are always a good thing and a 
brute-force approach would be to rsync your /etc directories off to some 
other machine, perhaps using the backup-dir option to keep some old 
versions around.  Running rsync with the -v and -n options will tell you 
if anything changed compared to the last copy. I'm surprised that there 
isn't a good tool built on top of one of the version control systems 
that could treat similar machines as branches, though.  What needs to be 
done is very similar to other version control concepts and everyone 
needs it.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread MHR
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Jeremy Sanders
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This limitation has been removed from more recent kernels.

 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba

 http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Argument-list-too-long


This is usually not a kernel issue at all - it is a shell issue.  The
limitation is the len
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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:18, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To early in the day for all this math.

It really is! :-)

 Your right saying x.31 -  x.63 for
 that particular SN, with x.63 being the broadcast addy and x.31 the network
 addy.

Actually, x.32 to x.63, with x.32 being the network address.

My personal opinion, if you're using RFC1918 addresses for internal
networks, you should only use 255.255.255.0 netmasks everywhere, even
though it's a network for one machine only. Dealing with netmasks is a
PITA, and should be avoided unless there's a real reason to use it,
for instance with valid IPs.

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[CentOS] reuse the history

2008-10-17 Thread ann kok
Hi all


I want to reuse command in the shell historys 
Which command I can only select traceroute 192.168.0.5 to run?

$ history |grep traceroute
   26  traceroute 192.168.0.5
   27  traceroute -n 192.168.0.5
   28  traceroute 192.168.0.10
   29  traceroute yahoo.com
   46  traceroute 192.168.0.33


eg: 

history |grep traceroute | awk '{ print$2   print$3}' | grep 26 

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
Yeah, but you cannot really subnet that way:


JohnStanley Writes: 

So let me understand that your saying that if I am Allocated and Own the IP
blocks 64.x.x.33 - 64.x.x.35 that I can not Subnet them Out in any way? I
have always done that between for inbetween LAN to WAN Back to LAN or VPN.
Example, I have my core catalyst router with x.33 Primary INT. x.34
subnetted out to my PIX Firewall, Squid Server.Apache and etc. Most all in a
DMZ certain things. Just trying to figure out what you mean.

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Re: [CentOS] reuse the history

2008-10-17 Thread Stewart Williams

ann kok wrote:

Hi all


I want to reuse command in the shell historys 
Which command I can only select traceroute 192.168.0.5 to run?


$ history |grep traceroute
   26  traceroute 192.168.0.5
   27  traceroute -n 192.168.0.5
   28  traceroute 192.168.0.10
   29  traceroute yahoo.com
   46  traceroute 192.168.0.33


eg: 

history |grep traceroute | awk '{ print$2   print$3}' | grep 26 


Thank you



$ !26
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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John R Pierce

Filipe Brandenburger wrote:

My personal opinion, if you're using RFC1918 addresses for internal
networks, you should only use 255.255.255.0 netmasks everywhere, even
though it's a network for one machine only. Dealing with netmasks is a
PITA, and should be avoided unless there's a real reason to use it,
for instance with valid IPs.
  


on a large WAN, /24 vlan segments are often too small.we use /20 
slices of 10-net for VLAN's here.   /all/ 10-net vlans are /20.  we also 
use some 172.16-31 and 192.168 spaces, those are all /24




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Re: [CentOS] reuse the history

2008-10-17 Thread Jim Wildman

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, ann kok wrote:


Which command I can only select traceroute 192.168.0.5 to run?

$ history |grep traceroute
  26  traceroute 192.168.0.5
  27  traceroute -n 192.168.0.5
  28  traceroute 192.168.0.10
  29  traceroute yahoo.com
  46  traceroute 192.168.0.33



csh history

!26

or !26:s/168/122/ to change it

or 
!trac


to get #46 (or the last command to have trac at the start_

!?trace
to run the last command with trace anywhere in the cmdline

fc

to invoke your $EDITOR on the last command

also
!-2 
(next to last)


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[CentOS] Re: new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 7:57 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
 On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, John R Pierce wrote:
 
 I'd have to suggest that the 'default' list (eg this one) should be
 the most general and beginner oriented, and any new additional lists
 should be the ones with the narrower focus (centos-tech, for instance,
 or centos-sysadmin).

 in my experience with running multiple lists,  unless there's a near-nazi
 
 Godwin's law declared on the thread
 
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Re: [CentOS] reuse the history

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 14:02, ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to reuse command in the shell historys
 Which command I can only select traceroute 192.168.0.5 to run?

I would type Ctrl-R (interactive search history starting with more
recent events), then type trace, then type Ctrl-R again until I
find the command I'm looking for, in your case, 4 times. Once you
start using Ctrl-R you will probably never want to use history |
grep ... and !... again.

HTH,
Filipe



 $ history |grep traceroute
   26  traceroute 192.168.0.5
   27  traceroute -n 192.168.0.5
   28  traceroute 192.168.0.10
   29  traceroute yahoo.com
   46  traceroute 192.168.0.33
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[CentOS] Re: new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
snip
 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=16821forum=18
 
 So, people who are interested, please join in and post your comments
 and thoughts.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Akemi
 (toracat, CentOS forum MODERATOR)
This thread has got to have beaten the CentOS record for most posts about 
nothing!

Or the longest off-topic thread about off-topic threads!

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
My personal opinion, if you're using RFC1918 addresses for internal
 networks, you should only use 255.255.255.0 netmasks everywhere, even
 though it's a network for one machine only. Dealing with netmasks is a
 PITA, and should be avoided unless there's a real reason to use it,
 for instance with valid IPs.

JohnStanley Writes:
One of the reasons that I take the trouble in doing it is that it Isolates
the different Subnets and the Applications that are are on it. Also to keep
nosey clients from browsing them if you don't want them to. I take more of
security issue in perspective than an ease of use. Using a SNB of 20 don't
give you but 14 host per sn. 1,048,575 what a mess that would be. But the
issue is containing them in VLAN configurations and that can well be worth
the hassel in doing it.

on a large WAN, /24 vlan segments are often too small.we use /20 
slices of 10-net for VLAN's here.   /all/ 10-net vlans are /20.  we also 
use some 172.16-31 and 192.168 spaces, those are all /24

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[CentOS] Re: Centos 5 and Driver Disks

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-16-2008 5:15 PM Clint Dilks spake the following:
 

 I get a 404 on the url in the OP's post, but if someone has a url to
 the driver disk in question, I can try and look at what the issue
 might be


 Hi
 
 http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_103_13121.shtm
 
 Or go to http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/~clintd/R905/ just to get the
 files I obtained from Dell.
 
 On closer reading of the instructions I see that the say to use a USB
 CD/ DVD drive anyway so I am confused as to what the point of the driver
 disk really is.
That part is probably a typo. It says to use a FDD or USB removable storage
for the driver disk image. Either expand it to a floppy, which the server
probably doesn't have, or put it unexpanded onto a USB flash drive.
Then boot from the built in optical drive and use the linux dd command.

Or you can use
linux
dd=http://130.217.247.31/~clintd/R905/rhel5-sata_svw-2.10.6-manykernels-dd.img
(watch the wrap, above should be on one line) to pull it off your webserver if
you give the setup a proper gateway address so it can reach outside.



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[CentOS] Threads end; get over it: was: new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread R P Herrold

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Scott Silva wrote:

This thread has got to have beaten the CentOS record for 
most posts about nothing!


Or the longest off-topic thread about off-topic threads!


or a sad demonstation by people who know better ignoring 
Godwin's Law


If people are unwilling to follow long settled email etiquette
http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html
we are already lost.  The trigger was not intentional.  The 
old thread is over.


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[CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-17-2008 2:30 AM Jussi Hirvi spake the following:
 Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
 (ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
 say, for example
 
 rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp
 
 and get only argument list too long as feedback.
 
 Is there a way to go round this problem?
 
 I have CentOS 5.2. 
 
It isn't a problem with the commands, it is a problem of how long a command
line can be when piped to a command.

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp is effectively the same as rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp/1
/var/amavis/tmp/2 /var/amavis/tmp/3 /var/amavis/tmp/4 /var/amavis/tmp/5 ...
etc. The number of diles and directories in that folder is the limiting factor.

And yes, Fedora would have the same limitation.

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 15:51, Marcus Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is definitely not what I am trying to do. I try to line out the
 setup again:

 Subnet A (192.168.2.x) - DHCP Server with 2 NICs - Subnet B (10.1.0.0)

 Clients on Subnet A should get a static IP from the host declaration.
 Clients on Subnet B should obtain dynamic IP addresses from a range.

 The two subnets are not physically connected but a Client should be
 able to connect to Subnet A or to Subnet B as well.

I'm no DHCP expert, but I believe that to accomplish what you are
trying to do you have to run two separate dhcpd instances, one for
each interface. You can do that by passing a parameter to dhcpd of
which interface it should bind to. You will also need separate config
files, lease files, pid files, etc. (it might be a PITA, but it's the
only way I see that it can be done on the same host.)

See man dhcpd for the details, but I think it would be something like:

# dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-subnetA.conf -lf
/var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd-subnetA.leases -pf /var/run/dhcpd-subnetA.pid
eth0
# dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-subnetB.conf -lf
/var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd-subnetB.leases -pf /var/run/dhcpd-subnetB.pid
eth1

And then you will still have to deal with startup and shutdown,
initscripts, SELinux, managing both processes, ...

If you really want to go that route, you might consider running two
VMs on that hardware, one for each network, it might prove to be
simpler than running two instances of dhcpd in one host at the end.

Otherwise, you could just assign static IPs on both networks for hosts
that can connect to both, as you said that works, you only have to
keep track of the fixed addresses then...

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] CGI configuration - second post

2008-10-17 Thread Mark Pryor



--- On Fri, 10/17/08, tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: tech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CentOS] CGI configuration - second post
 To: centos@centos.org
 Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 1:12 AM
 This is my second request for help with this problem. I have
 followed 
 the suggestions given the first time and made some progress
 but I still 
 have one final problem/question.
 
 I have two CGI scripts that don't work. 

Mel,

This is a feature, not a bug. Take a look at how httpd configures for cgi:

#grep cgi /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

notice that a handler is set for /var/www/cgi-bin

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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John wrote:
 Yeah, but you cannot really subnet that way:
 
 
 JohnStanley Writes: 
 
 So let me understand that your saying that if I am Allocated and Own the IP
 blocks 64.x.x.33 - 64.x.x.35 that I can not Subnet them Out in any way?

Yes, because that up there contains exactly *one* IP address - so I'd hardly 
call that blocks.

 I have always done that between for inbetween LAN to WAN Back to LAN
 or VPN.  Example, I have my core catalyst router with x.33 Primary
 INT. x.34 subnetted out to my PIX Firewall, Squid Server.Apache and
 etc. Most all in a DMZ certain things. Just trying to figure out what
 you mean.

I have no idea what you are trying to tell me - you cannot subnet out one
IP address to your PIX firewall.

And hadn't you snipped what I wrote, you could have seen that it is impossible
to have 192.168.0.16 with a netmask of 255.255.255.224 with 192.168.0.16 being
the network address, as that IP address with that network mask can only be an
address in an address range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.30 with .0 being
the network and .31 being the broadcast address.

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
See man dhcpd for the details, but I think it would be something like:

# dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-subnetA.conf -lf
/var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd-subnetA.leases -pf /var/run/dhcpd-subnetA.pid eth0
# dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-subnetB.conf -lf
/var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd-subnetB.leases -pf /var/run/dhcpd-subnetB.pid Eth1
---
JohnStanley Writes:
This works with two NIC CARDS... dhcp.conf I promise I really thought I
had posted this earlier but apparently I did not. Filipe is correct for the
cmd line running of it, so heres the .conf to run with two nics.

ddns-update-style ad-hoc

subnet 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.2.XX 192.168.2.XX;
default-lease-time 7200;
max-lease-time 21600;
option routers 192.168.2.XXX;
option ip-forwarding off;
option broadcast-address 192.168.2.255;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name-servers 64.XX.XX.XX, 64.XX.XX.XX;
  }

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.XX 192.168.1.XX;
min-secs 3;
default-lease-time 7200;
max-lease-time 21600;
option routers 192.168.1.X;
option ip-forwarding off;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name-servers 64.XX.XX.XX, 64.XX.XX.XX;
  }

Option to run with two nics from the command line as 2 deamons...

dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-network1 eth0
dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd-network2 eth1

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[CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Ian Levesque

Hello,

I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included with  
the CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer. I need to verify hardware  
compatibility (especially ethernet and SATA) prior to making a  
purchase decision, and reckon that seeing what's included with the  
installer would be the most direct way.


Thanks for any leads,

Ian
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RE: [CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread John Kordash
  rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp
 
  and get only argument list too long as feedback.
 
  Is there a way to go round this problem?
 
  I have CentOS 5.2.
 
 It isn't a problem with the commands, it is a problem of how
 long a command
 line can be when piped to a command.

 rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp is effectively the same as rm -rf
 /var/amavis/tmp/1
 /var/amavis/tmp/2 /var/amavis/tmp/3 /var/amavis/tmp/4
 /var/amavis/tmp/5 ...
 etc. The number of diles and directories in that folder is
 the limiting factor.

I don't believe this is correct.  The command rm -rf /path/to/dir doesn't 
expand on the shell the same way rm -rf /path/to/dir/* would.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your comment, rm -rf /path/to/dir will remove 
everything as intended without blowing out the argument list.

Dealing with file removal and getting 'argument list too long' is a FAQish 
question, and there is more than one way to get around the issue.  Common 
workarounds include find piped to xargs rm, the above mentioned recursive 
directory nuke, one line perl scripts, etc.

-John
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Re: [CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Jim Perrin
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Ian Levesque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included with the
 CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer. I need to verify hardware compatibility
 (especially ethernet and SATA) prior to making a purchase decision, and
 reckon that seeing what's included with the installer would be the most
 direct way.

 Thanks for any leads,


/boot/config-version if you have a 5.2 system already running. If
not you could probably just ask here what driver/module you're looking
for.

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Re: [CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Ian Levesque

On Oct 17, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Jim Perrin wrote:

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Ian Levesque  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included  
with the

CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer. I need to verify hardware compatibility
(especially ethernet and SATA) prior to making a purchase decision,  
and
reckon that seeing what's included with the installer would be the  
most

direct way.

Thanks for any leads,



/boot/config-version if you have a 5.2 system already running. If
not you could probably just ask here what driver/module you're looking
for.


Thanks for the reply, Jim. I'm curious what the kernel included on the  
install disc supports, more than anything. We have a workstation  
configuration that we recommend to labs around the university. In the  
past few months we've migrated a large number of existing  
installations from Fedora to CentOS. Unfortunately, our current  
workstation setup doesn't have ethernet support in the 5.2 install  
kernel, which became a problem when we were creating a guide for labs  
to follow when installing CentOS. So, we need to ensure that the next  
recommended system will be supported by the install kernel as well as  
the post-install kernel (which I understand I can review in /boot/ 
config-version).


Cheers,
Ian
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Re: [CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Ned Slider

Jim Perrin wrote:

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Ian Levesque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included with the
CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer. I need to verify hardware compatibility
(especially ethernet and SATA) prior to making a purchase decision, and
reckon that seeing what's included with the installer would be the most
direct way.

Thanks for any leads,



/boot/config-version if you have a 5.2 system already running. If
not you could probably just ask here what driver/module you're looking
for.



There is a page on the Wiki with the CentOS 4 default config, but 
nothing for C5:


http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/centos4-config

Perhaps this page could be updated?

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
Yes, because that up there contains exactly *one* IP address - so I'd
hardly 
call that blocks.

Where I'm from we call it Blocks or Ipaddy. :-)

I have no idea what you are trying to tell me - you cannot subnet out one
IP address to your PIX firewall.

I wonder why I cant do that, seeing as have been doing it over 10 years. One
often misguided approach to setting them up is, facing it directly into the
open internet. Your as good as gone when someone hits up the ftp port on
that shiny new PIX and tunnels right in.
What I was trying to say was if you by 5 ip addresses you can take an
address and subnet it out to other routers,  switches and what ever else.
There are lots of companys doing this these days because of the cost
associated with them.
Honestly this is all off topic from the original OP and what he needed,
Those addresses were just randomly stuck in there for presentation example.
Weather they right or wrong, he or she that is seeking the information
should know to atleast to change that before using it. As for that I am not
totally aware of what he really wants to accomplish. I in my later
networking would not even use dhcp any more unless it was an install server.
I would be doing it through Cisco PIX or Nortel. Simply because of the
security record of cisco and nortel. But all in all CentOS gets my file
services with samba as DFS and I hope to see a lot of progress on
Directory Server.

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Re: [CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 16:32, Ian Levesque [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included with the
 CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer.

From what I see, the kernel in /isolinux/vmlinuz on the CentOS 5.2
x86_64 installer CD (which I'm pretty certain is the one booted when
you install) is the same as the one inside the
kernel-2.6.18-92.el5.x86_64.rpm package, at least I md5'd both of them
and they match. Therefore, I believe if you check the config file in
that RPM, it should have the info you are looking for.

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John wrote:
 I have no idea what you are trying to tell me - you cannot subnet out one
 IP address to your PIX firewall.
 
 I wonder why I cant do that, seeing as have been doing it over 10 years. One
 often misguided approach to setting them up is, facing it directly into the
 open internet. Your as good as gone when someone hits up the ftp port on
 that shiny new PIX and tunnels right in.

I never heard anyone calling that subnetting, as a subnet is a differently
defined term.

Ralph

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RE: [CentOS] DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
 I wonder why I cant do that, seeing as have been doing it over 10 years.
One
 often misguided approach to setting them up is, facing it directly into
the
 open internet. Your as good as gone when someone hits up the ftp port on
 that shiny new PIX and tunnels right in.

I never heard anyone calling that subnetting, as a subnet is a differently
defined term.
-
JohnStanley Writes

I agree Subnetting and Subnet are 2 different things in whole. Subnetting is
taking an IP and borrowing bits from the ip and making additional net blocks
perferably in dotted decimal form is the easiest way.
I guess seeing as you (DE Land) and I(US) both are of different
nationalities bring up the information devide between us. For the most part
we are referring to the same thing but are calling it a diferent name. I do
often however have a laugh at times about things on this list from people in
Europe. I read posts sometime that mean something totaly different here but
then some will answer it where the poster is from and then it kinda begins
to make sense.

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Re: [CentOS] Installer kernel config

2008-10-17 Thread Ian Levesque

On Oct 17, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Filipe Brandenburger wrote:


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 16:32, Ian Levesque  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious where I can find the config for the kernel included  
with the

CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installer.



From what I see, the kernel in /isolinux/vmlinuz on the CentOS 5.2

x86_64 installer CD (which I'm pretty certain is the one booted when
you install) is the same as the one inside the
kernel-2.6.18-92.el5.x86_64.rpm package, at least I md5'd both of them
and they match. Therefore, I believe if you check the config file in
that RPM, it should have the info you are looking for.


Thanks, Filipe - it looks like you're right.

Cheers,
Ian





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[CentOS] Re: How to view djvu files?

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-17-2008 9:13 AM Marko Vojinovic spake the following:
 --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Spike Turner spiketurner09-/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A quick glance at the kbs repo http://centos.karan.org/
 shows an rpm in testing djvulibre-3.5.19-4.el5.kb.i386.rpm
 but you can have a glance at the repoview.
 
 Aha! Ok, I was not aware of the kbs repo. I see the djvulibre in testing, so 
 will try it out. 
Hopefully there is not too much to be broken in it... :-)
 
usually things go into testing until people actually try it and report back
that it worked for them. Enough positive reports tends to get things moved
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[CentOS] Re: DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread Scott Silva
on 10-17-2008 3:25 PM John spake the following:
 I wonder why I cant do that, seeing as have been doing it over 10 years.
 One
 often misguided approach to setting them up is, facing it directly into
 the
 open internet. Your as good as gone when someone hits up the ftp port on
 that shiny new PIX and tunnels right in.
 
 I never heard anyone calling that subnetting, as a subnet is a differently
 defined term.
 -
 JohnStanley Writes
 
 I agree Subnetting and Subnet are 2 different things in whole. Subnetting is
 taking an IP and borrowing bits from the ip and making additional net blocks
 perferably in dotted decimal form is the easiest way.
 I guess seeing as you (DE Land) and I(US) both are of different
 nationalities bring up the information devide between us. For the most part
 we are referring to the same thing but are calling it a diferent name. I do
 often however have a laugh at times about things on this list from people in
 Europe. I read posts sometime that mean something totaly different here but
 then some will answer it where the poster is from and then it kinda begins
 to make sense.
TCP/IP works the same way no matter what country you are from. The terms are
the same, and if someone uses the wrong term, it is not the language
difference, that person just learned the wrong term.

A subnet is what you get when you finish subnetting. One is a noun, one is a
verb. It can only be done the way it was designed to be done. You can do some
very creative things with CIDR now, but that was created more as a way to make
smaller routing tables than any other reason.



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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread thad
Satchel Paige  - Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you.


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Laurent Wandrebeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/10/17 Jussi Hirvi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
 (ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
 say, for example

rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

 and get only argument list too long as feedback.

 Is there a way to go round this problem?

 I have CentOS 5.2.

 - Jussi
 try something like:
 for i in /var/amavis/tmp/*
 do
rm -rf $i
 done

it should be:

for i in `ls  /var/amavis/tmp`
do
rm $i
done
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RE: [CentOS] Re: DHCP static hosts and subnet configuration

2008-10-17 Thread John
Scott Silva (Mail Scanner) Wrote:

TCP/IP works the same way no matter what country you are from. The terms
are
the same, and if someone uses the wrong term, it is not the language
difference, that person just learned the wrong term.

Yes, works the same in all Countries. Layers 1,2,3 of the OSI Stack. I guess
what I should have said was Subnet.

A subnet is what you get when you finish subnetting. One is a noun, one is
a
verb. It can only be done the way it was designed to be done. You can do
some
very creative things with CIDR now, but that was created more as a way to
make
smaller routing tables than any other reason.

Correct there. Classless Inter Domain Routing, never really got into doing
that. Largest I have dealt with was 1500 nodes and cidr is not needed there.
My main thing has always been getting a network provider to also provide
failover redudance. Had one dealing with lighting fiber and that was a
nightmare. Maybe I can get a few CIDR pointers from you. :-)

JohnStanley 

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[CentOS] octave

2008-10-17 Thread John R Pierce
trying to install octave from epel onto centos 5.2, and getting 
dependency errors.  only place I could find this RPM was in epel, which 
I 'thought' ran on native rhel5/centos5 without requiring any other 
repos, but I guess I'm wrong?!?


google tells me libhdf5 is some sot of 'heirarchial data format' 
library, whatever that means.



# yum install octave
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* epel: mirror.hmc.edu
* pgdg83: yum.pgsqlrpms.org
* rpmforge: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
* base: mirror.nic.uoregon.edu
* updates: mirror.hmc.edu
* centosplus: centos-distro.cavecreek.net
* addons: mirrors.cat.pdx.edu
* extras: centos-distro.cavecreek.net
Excluding Packages from CentOS-5 - Base
Finished
Excluding Packages from CentOS-5 - Updates
Finished
1541 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package octave.i386 6:3.0.1-2.el5 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libcamd.so.2 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libumfpack.so.5 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libcolamd.so.2 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libfftw3.so.3 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libccolamd.so.2 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libblas.so.3 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libglpk.so.0 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libcholmod.so.1 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libamd.so.2 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: gnuplot for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libcxsparse.so.2 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libhdf5.so.0 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: liblapack.so.3 for package: octave
-- Processing Dependency: libqhull.so.5 for package: octave
-- Running transaction check
--- Package glpk.i386 0:4.20-2.el5 set to be updated
--- Package octave.i386 6:3.0.1-2.el5 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libhdf5.so.0 for package: octave
--- Package qhull.i386 0:2003.1-7.el5 set to be updated
--- Package lapack.i386 0:3.0-37.el5 set to be updated
--- Package gnuplot.i386 0:4.0.0-12 set to be updated
--- Package fftw3.i386 0:3.1.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
--- Package blas.i386 0:3.0-37.el5 set to be updated
--- Package suitesparse.i386 0:3.1.0-1.el5 set to be updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: libhdf5.so.0 is needed by package octave


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Re: [CentOS] ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

thad wrote:

Satchel Paige  - Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you.


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Laurent Wandrebeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2008/10/17 Jussi Hirvi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Since when is there a limit in how long directory listings CentOS can show
(ls), or how large directories can be removed (rm). It is really annoying to
say, for example

   rm -rf /var/amavis/tmp

and get only argument list too long as feedback.

Is there a way to go round this problem?

I have CentOS 5.2.

- Jussi

try something like:
for i in /var/amavis/tmp/*
do
   rm -rf $i
done


it should be:

for i in `ls  /var/amavis/tmp`
do
rm $i
done


These shouldn't make any difference.  The limit is on the size of the 
expanded shell command line.  The original example won't cause it.  The 
ones that expand a list with a * or the output of ls may.  The right 
solution is to let rm recurse with -r or to potentially long list to xargs.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread MHR
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 10-16-2008 7:57 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
 On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, John R Pierce wrote:

 Godwin's law declared on the thread

 -- Russ herrold
 That's one I hadn't heard in a long time!  ;-P


Oh, my lord, that brings back memories!  I used to have long arguments
with Mike on one of the Usenet forums, way back in the day

And he's younger than I am!

mhr
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Re: [CentOS] Shipping CentOS as part of a solution

2008-10-17 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:21:14AM +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote:
 
 Mark Maskery a écrit :

 We develop and sell a server based application as an appliance in 
 which, in general, the customer does not have direct access to the 
 operating system. My question is, are we allowed to use CentOS as the 
 underlying operating system and if so what license considerations are 
 there or what license information would we need to include for our 
 customers?

 Yes, you are allowed to do that. And if your business runs well,  
 consider a donation to CentOS.


Review the GPL, BSD, X11 and other licenses as outlined on the CentOS
web site (see also Red Hat's web site).

You may need to make it very visible that there is CentOS under the hood.
You need to make available the source to the CentOS bits you 
deliver to your customer including changes you make.

Your application need not be GPL as long as you are 100% the sole author.

Give special attention to derived work in the GPL.  If part of your 
application
is GPL then it may well all be GPL.

To simplify your package requirements collect all the CentOS iso images
and deliver them to your customer (both source and binary iso images).
Then add media for the changes you make to CentOS.  Lastly add separate
media for the application you are selling.

Lastly pay attention to updates and security fixes that you deliver from
CentOS or other repo.  If the customer does not download them then you
have some obligations


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[CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Robert Nichols

Les Mikesell wrote:

thad wrote:


it should be:

for i in `ls  /var/amavis/tmp`
do
rm $i
done


These shouldn't make any difference.  The limit is on the size of the 
expanded shell command line.


Really?

$ M=0; N=0; for W in `find /usr -xdev 2/dev/null`; do M=$(($M+1)); 
N=$(($N+${#W}+1)); done; echo $M $N
156304 7677373

vs.

$ /bin/echo `find /usr -xdev 2/dev/null`
bash: /bin/echo: Argument list too long

For the first case, the shell never tries to pass the list as command arguments.
It builds the list internally, limited only by memory size, and processes the
words one by one.  As a final test case, by using the shell's builtin 'echo'
the whole 7-plus megabytes gets echoed to the terminal:

$ echo `find /usr -xdev 2/dev/null`
(no errors -- just lots of output)

Anyway, the for i in `ls ...` solution breaks for paths that include
embedded white space.

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RE: [CentOS] octave

2008-10-17 Thread John

Error: Missing Dependency: libhdf5.so.0 is needed by package octave

JohnStanley Writes:
yum whatprovides libhdf5.so.0
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: ftp.linux.ncsu.edu
 * updates: styx.biochem.wfubmc.edu
 * addons: mirror.atlantic.net
 * extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
base  100% |=| 1.1 kB00:00
updates   100% |=|  951 B00:00
addons100% |=|  951 B00:00
extras100% |=| 1.1 kB00:00
No Matches found

The package is not in the CentOS Distro. You will have to look elsewhere to
find it. A good start would be google to find it and remember the
whatprovides command to find what libs go with the package you need.  CentOS
and RHEL Versions 5 with Point releases 1,2, and 3 you can try this one
here.
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/4123486/com/hdf5-1.6.5-7.fc6.i38
6.rpm.html

OR

 This one is for EPEL 5 on there site.
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/8177721/com/hdf5-1.6.7-1.el5.i38
6.rpm.html

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Re: [CentOS] Re: ls and rm: argument list too long

2008-10-17 Thread Les Mikesell

Robert Nichols wrote:


These shouldn't make any difference.  The limit is on the size of the 
expanded shell command line.


Really?

$ M=0; N=0; for W in `find /usr -xdev 2/dev/null`; do M=$(($M+1)); 
N=$(($N+${#W}+1)); done; echo $M $N

156304 7677373

vs.

$ /bin/echo `find /usr -xdev 2/dev/null`
bash: /bin/echo: Argument list too long

For the first case, the shell never tries to pass the list as command 
arguments.
It builds the list internally, limited only by memory size, and 
processes the

words one by one.


Is that peculiar to bash?  I thought the `command` construct was 
expanded by shells into the command line before being evaluated.



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