[CentOS-docs] wiki page for 'howto diagnose issues; collect info to report'
Hi Spike, You seem to be an ideal candidate to start and maintain a wiki page ( or a few, whatever is needed ) on a process or track that someone might use to do first round trouble shooting on their machine(s) and howto collect and what info to collect before they report the issues in various places. eg. what should goto bugs.centos.org and where to followup on that. Is this something you might be interested in ? I am cc'ing this to the centos-docs list where wiki related content gets discussed. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] Question re RHEL 5.3
MHR wrote: I've heard now from more than one source about problems with CentOS (and RH) at least up through 5.2 w.r.t. SATA drive handling, and I've even reported on this myself in this list before. My question is, do we have any idea if 5.3 has any improvements in this area? One of my cohorts here, who happens to be a Fedora fan, says that these problems are fixed in F9, but I have grave concerns about putting an enterprise lifeline main application on any Fedora release. If 5.3 solves these issues, I'd much rather go with that. You seem to be relying on hearsay and rumor-mongering. Any bug reports you have filed on the CentOS bug tracker? Any ideas? Any places I might look to see for myself? You have to install 5.3 beta and test it yourself. Then again if your alleged problems only surface in a conversation with your fedora buddy you have to have more than your word for it. Comprende? Spike. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Dag Wieers wrote: ... Ok, what may not have been obvious from my mail (and I will make sure I fix that next announcement) is that anyone should be able to register on RHN for downloading these Betas. So you do not have to be a customer to get an RHN account. You can download and install, however, in order to do: yum update or even: yum install something you have to register the system on one of your available subscriptions. That's how I experience it - I could be wrong? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Checking if a user is 'Disabled'
On Wednesday 29 October 2008, Bill Campbell wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008, Peter Kjellstrom wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2008, R P Herrold wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Tom Brown wrote: I need to create some local users but then 'disable' that user. I know i can enable and disable the user by using usermod -L and -U but does anyone know if there is a way for me to see the current status of the user? ie locked or unlocked? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd -l archive Locking password for user archive. passwd: Success [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo passwd -S archive archive LK 2008-07-15 0 9 7 -1 (Password locked.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Worth noting is that this locking only refers to password authentication. If the user has a key in his/hers authorized_keys then they will still be able to login. I'm not sure that is true. Well I am. Now I've even tried it and on both centos-4 and centos-5 I had no problems authenticating with my public key when my shadow entry started with !!. If you truely want to lock an account (all access and use) then you have many things to consider including: * .ssh/authorized_keys * .forward * crond * atd * running processes ... /Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Apparently no swap configured
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:07 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: In older BSD systems (eg around SunOS 4 times or before) swap space was utilised oddly; all memory was allocated from swap, so you needed _at least_ physmem of swap just to use all your real memory! So if you added physmem of swap then your total virtual memory size was still only physmem. No help! So the rule of thumb came along that said swap = 2*physmem and that gave you a VM of 2*physmem. old codger hat this was also how early IBM System/370 DOS/VS worked... the swap space (which was contiguous cylinders of the disk, btw) was mapped 1:1 to virtual memory address space /old codger hat snip another old codger hat I believe the differing recommendations is a result of the transitions over the life of *IX systems. When I first began running real UNIX (TM) on Dec and PC equipment (1978-1985), memory was slow, expensive and limited. Ditto for HD space. In order to run even fairly basic systems with any utility involving multi-tasking or multi-users, swap was need to page memory. Tunables were provided for high/low water marks and preferences for high/low priority processes. IIRC, initially there was no oom kill capability. Recommended swap at that time was at least two times real memory and 4 times for heavily loaded systems. If you were doing more, bump that number appreciably. But it had severe costs when you maximum HD size might be 40MB, so you didn't want to over-allocate. Over time, memory/HD attributes and flavors of *IX changed. Applications changed. Shared memory, libraries came into vogue. Relocation became possible. ELF appeared. All this stuff changed the real needs for swap. But old habits die hard. So we still have conflicting recommendations floating around. Several on this list have been successfully configuring 0 swap for their usage. For other usage that may not be appropriate. /another old codger hat Summary: as it always has been, your application and load profile determine the need. Since HD is so cheap now, I have a couple gig of swap, but haven't seen it used since sometime in CentOS 5.0. Even when I login in as multiple users and fire up several X/Gnome desktops for each, no swap usage. There's probably been some swap used, but it wasn't seen by me. -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Apparently no swap configured
Stephen Harris wrote: Swap should equal 2x physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM, and then an additional 1x physical RAM for any amount above 2 GB, but never less than 32 MB. That's a silly recommendation, and never been true for Linux. RedHat don't always know what they're talking about. I disagree with that. It has been true for linux for a long time, and is true even now. When was the last time you looked at the linux swap handling code ? Recently, with large amounts of ram available on physical machines, eg 2 GB, you need to start reconsidering a part of that strategy based around the fact that if your machine is really using 2 GB+ of swap, there might be other problems that need fixing and the absurd levels of latency introduced by that would mean those other issues really need looking at. I'd still go with 2xRAM size for swap size upto a swap size of 2 GB, then make it the same as RAM size, till you get to 32 GB, at which point, half of real RAM size till 128 GB. Beyond that point, you really should be doing some benchmarks and monitoring to work out how much swap you need, and where it needs to be. The other school of thought that seems to be doing the rounds is, 2xRAM till 4 GB, then just leave swap at 4GB irrespective of what your real machine RAM is, as long as its a multiple of 4. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Dazuko module Panda Antivirus
Hi, I installed Panda antivirus for linux but it uses Dazuko module for updating virus definition downloaded from internet to virus definitions database. So i downloaded dazuko ( tar package) software and tryed to install. But it generates the below defined errors, Which module in the kernel has to be enabled. Please help me i am using Centos 5.2 with kernel version of 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5xen [EMAIL PROTECTED] dazuko-2.3.5]$ ./configure checking host system type... Linux checking for make utility... ok (make) checking for C compiler... ok (cc) kernel source in /lib/modules/2.6.18-92.1.13.el5xen/source... yes kernel build source in /lib/modules/2.6.18-92.1.13.el5xen/build... yes acquiring Linux kernel code configuration... ok checking if Linux is RSBAC patched... no checking if devfs is enabled... no discovered host system... Linux (2.6.18) checking if security module support is enabled... yes verifying capabilities are not built-in... built-in :( error: capabilities are built-in to the kernel: you will need to recompile a kernel with capabilities as a kernel module regards Gopinath . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
i need to know where i can find php version 5.2? you'll probably want to have a look here http://www.php.net/get/php-5.2.6.tar.bz2/from/a/mirror ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
Eduardo Silvestre wrote: Hello, i have some customers with php 5.1.6 and they have a problem because this version have a bug on gd library. Link http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39366 Need install other version to use this feature. My mails had *three* locations in it where you can download php 5.2 if you need that. Ralph pgpuOzL5HGiam.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
Eduardo Silvestre wrote: i have some customers with php 5.1.6 and they have a problem because this version have a bug on gd library. Link http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=39366 Need install other version to use this feature. Regards, Don't assume that because the bug is in php 5.1.6 that upstream have not addressed it by backporting a fix see http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/?sc_cid=3093 Have you filed any bugs in bugs.centos.org or checked to see if the bug is present in CentOS? Spike. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
Ralph Angenendt wrote: My mails had *three* locations in it where you can download php 5.2 if you need that. There is no evidence supplied by yourself or by the OP that upstream have not backported a fix to an issue 2 years old. As the saying goes if its not in bugzilla its not a bug. There is no reason for the cart to lead the horse on this occasion. Spike. --- If its not in bugzilla its not a bug. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Question re RHEL 5.3
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 17:59 -0700, MHR wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Jim Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only issue I've ever seen has been with the on-board fakeraid stuff more and more vendors seem to be adding. I've been using SATA disks with centos since the early 4.x days without issue, so you have me at a bit of a loss here. I'd say if anything it's due to controller support, and much of that can be chalked up to what hardware vendors are pawning off as 'controllers' these days. The one problem I've seen and posted here was w.r.t. smartd error reports showing 2^32 - 1 errors on one of the disks (probably my system disk) every few minutes. I thought this was more than just a bit suspicious, since there are only 4,687,500,000 sectors on a 300GB disk, and the likelihood of having errors on 4,294,967,295 (~92%) of them is rather slim unless the whole system is crashing a lot (it's not). It's a Seagate 300GB, so I ran Seagate's SeaTools on it in lightweight mode, and no problems were reported, which is good because the disk is only about a year and a half old and has my CentOS root, swap, boot and home partitions on it. I'll dig deeper on this one - sounds fishy to me, too, now With my usual jaundiced eye, my first thought is that the fault is not the obvious one. So I suggest temporarily abandoning The Usual Suspects (TM) - what a *great* movie. Is it a consistent or sporadic issue? Is the controller an on-board or after-market? If on-board, is the BIOS the latest? Have you checked connections power/data cable connections? The number you mention makes me think of a bad cable (or connections). Any pattern if it's recurring? Temperature steady in the area? If you had a temporary rise/fall in temperature it could have exposed weak connections, micro-fractures in various cables, poor seating of memory, add-in cards, etc. Any other messages, that might be related, in the log file when it happens? I'm wondering if some spurious interrupt might be involved. Have you memtested recently? ISTM that a memory error could fool the system. Re-seated the memory? How about the kernel version? On the latest kernel, 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5, I recently got this. -- Oct 29 07:09:41 centos501 kernel: Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 2c on CPU 0. Oct 29 07:09:41 centos501 kernel: Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled? Oct 29 07:09:41 centos501 kernel: Dazed and confused, but trying to continue --- Never seen before. Only once, so far. I've not yet investigated this. No recent changes to the system since 5.0 but normal yum updates to current 5.2 status. The case cover is off right now though, so it could be some EMI (heh, or an EMP from the recent trash on this list) :-) That's all I can think of ATM but for power from the utility company or marginal power supply in the unit. mhr snip sig stuff HTH -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Using CentOS repos in a RHEL machine
Hi I have 2 machines with RHEL 5.2 and I would like to use CentOS repos. I would like to know if the document Using CentOS Repositories on RHEL Machines[1] can be used in CentOS 5.2 without too much modifications. Thanks Marcelo [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PackageManagement/YumOnRHEL ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Using CentOS repos in a RHEL machine
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:48:53AM +, Marcelo M. Garcia enlightened us: I have 2 machines with RHEL 5.2 and I would like to use CentOS repos. I would like to know if the document Using CentOS Repositories on RHEL Machines[1] can be used in CentOS 5.2 without too much modifications. Thanks Marcelo [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PackageManagement/YumOnRHEL You shouldn't need to bother since RHEL 5 has yum. Just add your repo definitions into your /etc/yum.repos.d directory. The only limitation I have been able to see with RHEL's yum is the lack of the priorities plugin. You can use protectbase as a replacement. If I get a chance today, maybe I'll try to update that wiki page. Matt -- Matt Hyclak Systems and Operations Office of Information Technology Ohio University (740) 593-1222 pgpECU9olkY0W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
Spike Turner wrote: There is no evidence supplied by yourself or by the OP that upstream have not backported a fix to an issue 2 years old. As the saying goes if its not in bugzilla its not a bug. There is no reason for the cart to lead the horse on this occasion. you seem to suffer comprehension disabilities. There was a bug report already url'd by the OP. What work did you do Spike to verify the issue and reproduce ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] changing partition priority on install
Monty Shinn wrote: ... Phil, Thanks for your input. I did find the location of the grub install modification. Strange thing is, when I restarted the install, grub defaulted to the MBR of /dev/sdb. I did not change any hardware or bios settings in between attempts. I have no idea why the change happened. Once the install was completed, the OS partition showed up as /dev/sda, even though it showed up as /dev/sdb during the installation process. Grub is apparently happily residing in the MBR of /dev/sda. Again, I can't explain it. If you (or anyone else) has insights to this behaviour, or can point me to where I can read up on it, I would appreciate it. Thanks again for all your help. Monty, Not much helpful to add, except that I have seen many cases over many years of using RH/RHEL/FC and derived distros of device ordering changing among installer/boot/runtime versions of GRUB, among installer/installed/updated kernels, as well as among different contemporary distros. PCI slot priority, initrd, modprobe.conf, and BIOS settings are also variables so interactions among all these components can be quite complex. If you really want to dig into it the kernel development and distro-devel mailing lists would be good starting places. There are also old threads in CentOS and Fedora list archives, some of which I participated in, on these issues. If you find any clear and enlightening docs on these problems, please share. Cheers, Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] boot problems
Phil Schaffner wrote: At least it was a correctly spelled typo. Still need that grammar checker!!! Who's working on putting on in Thunderbird? Evolution? s/on/one/ - before someone else jumps on me :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] boot problems
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 at 9:35pm, Phil Schaffner wrote At the risk of sounding even MORE pedantic, many would appreciate it if you ran a spell-checker as well. (Grammar checkers seem to be beyond the state-of-the-art in email clients.) :D The GRUB shell is quiet powerful and can help in debugging your ^ Thus conforming to the rule that every spelling flame must contain at least one typo of its own -- well done! ;) At least it was a correctly spelled typo. Still need that grammar checker!!! Who's working on putting on in Thunderbird? Evolution? :-} Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] PHP 5.2
Spike Turner wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: My mails had *three* locations in it where you can download php 5.2 if you need that. There is no evidence supplied by yourself or by the OP that upstream have not backported a fix to an issue 2 years old. Did they? If so it's not in the package changelogs. Ralph pgpyWQnd9p6UV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] boot problems
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 08:31 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: Phil Schaffner wrote: At least it was a correctly spelled typo. Still need that grammar checker!!! Who's working on putting on in Thunderbird? Evolution? s/on/one/ - before someone else jumps on me :-) He-he! So you meant Who's working one putting on in Thun...? :-) snip sig stuff I've done similar s many times. Grab another cup of your favorite stimulant. :-) -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
Hi I am migrating a mailserver from CentOS 4 to 5 and i am migrating the db's over from mysql-max-4.1.13 to mysql-server-5.0.45-7.el5 during the mysql import it fails with this... ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 129: Duplicate entry '3-r��?�' for key 1 anyone got any clues to this one as so far i have drawn a blank thanks ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
Tom Brown wrote: ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 129: Duplicate entry '3-r��?�' for key 1 anyone got any clues to this one as so far i have drawn a blank you are inserting multiple duplicate values somewhere where its not allowed. without looking at your schema it would be hard to work out what the issue is. in other news, you dont need to dump + reload when you move from mysql-4 to mysql-5, just service mysqld stop; yum update mysql\*; /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade ; service mysqld start -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Mogens Kjaer wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: ... Ok, what may not have been obvious from my mail (and I will make sure I fix that next announcement) is that anyone should be able to register on RHN for downloading these Betas. So you do not have to be a customer to get an RHN account. you have to register the system on one of your available subscriptions. Hmm, I am pretty sure at some point in the past registering to RHN was free without entitlements. That is how I have delegated systems and entitlements to other people within RPMforge. Maybe it is different now. I will have to find out and document on the Wiki in detail. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Can one invoke multiple INSTANCEs of Firefox on CentOS
On Wed, October 29, 2008 12:05, Joe Pruett wrote: you can do it with firefox profiles. start with: firefox -ProfileManager Thank you very much for the hint. I went to the Mozilla Firefox Help page and read up on this. However, when I run: # firefox -ProfileManager All I get is a new Firefox window with all of the bookmarks and history of my standard user profile. Am I missing something here? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
you are inserting multiple duplicate values somewhere where its not allowed. without looking at your schema it would be hard to work out what the issue is. its a bayes db for spamassassin in other news, you dont need to dump + reload when you move from mysql-4 to mysql-5, just service mysqld stop; yum update mysql\*; /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade ; service mysqld start i am changing the actual box so i have to dump and then import as i am also moving from centos4 to 5 - schema is below thanks -- MySQL dump 10.9 -- -- Host: localhostDatabase: spamassassin -- -- -- Server version4.1.13-max /*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT=@@CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT */; /*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS=@@CHARACTER_SET_RESULTS */; /*!40101 SET @OLD_COLLATION_CONNECTION=@@COLLATION_CONNECTION */; /*!40101 SET NAMES utf8 */; /*!40014 SET @OLD_UNIQUE_CHECKS=@@UNIQUE_CHECKS, UNIQUE_CHECKS=0 */; /*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS, FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */; /*!40101 SET @OLD_SQL_MODE=@@SQL_MODE, SQL_MODE='NO_AUTO_VALUE_ON_ZERO' */; /*!40111 SET @OLD_SQL_NOTES=@@SQL_NOTES, SQL_NOTES=0 */; -- -- Table structure for table `bayes_expire` -- DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bayes_expire`; CREATE TABLE `bayes_expire` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `runtime` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', KEY `bayes_expire_idx1` (`id`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; -- -- Table structure for table `bayes_global_vars` -- DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bayes_global_vars`; CREATE TABLE `bayes_global_vars` ( `variable` varchar(30) NOT NULL default '', `value` varchar(200) NOT NULL default '', PRIMARY KEY (`variable`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; -- -- Table structure for table `bayes_seen` -- DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bayes_seen`; CREATE TABLE `bayes_seen` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `msgid` varchar(200) character set latin1 collate latin1_bin NOT NULL default '', `flag` char(1) NOT NULL default '', PRIMARY KEY (`id`,`msgid`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; -- -- Table structure for table `bayes_token` -- DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bayes_token`; CREATE TABLE `bayes_token` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `token` char(5) NOT NULL default '', `spam_count` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `ham_count` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `atime` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', PRIMARY KEY (`id`,`token`), KEY `bayes_token_idx1` (`token`), KEY `bayes_token_idx2` (`id`,`atime`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; -- -- Table structure for table `bayes_vars` -- DROP TABLE IF EXISTS `bayes_vars`; CREATE TABLE `bayes_vars` ( `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment, `username` varchar(200) NOT NULL default '', `spam_count` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `ham_count` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `token_count` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `last_expire` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `last_atime_delta` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `last_expire_reduce` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', `oldest_token_age` int(11) NOT NULL default '2147483647', `newest_token_age` int(11) NOT NULL default '0', PRIMARY KEY (`id`), UNIQUE KEY `bayes_vars_idx1` (`username`) ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1; /*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40014 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40014 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40101 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; /*!40111 SET [EMAIL PROTECTED] */; ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
Tom Brown wrote: in other news, you dont need to dump + reload when you move from mysql-4 to mysql-5, just service mysqld stop; yum update mysql\*; /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade ; service mysqld start i am changing the actual box so i have to dump and then import as i am also moving from centos4 to 5 - rsync or tar the /var/lib/mysql dir up and move that. I am guessing in this case that some delimiter is breaking or the dump you did wasent clean. Alternatively if you did use complete-inserts in your dump, you can run the load with : mysql -f db_name blah.sql ; then look at what lines the load breaks on and make sure the data looks sane in those lines. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Can one invoke multiple INSTANCEs of Firefox on CentOS
On Thu, October 30, 2008 09:41, James B. Byrne wrote: Thank you very much for the hint. I went to the Mozilla Firefox Help page and read up on this. However, when I run: # firefox -ProfileManager All I get is a new Firefox window with all of the bookmarks and history of my standard user profile. Am I missing something here? If the initial condition is that no instances of Firefox is running then firefox -ProfileManager will indeed bring up the Profile Manager and allow one to chose which profile to use or manage profiles. However, that is the only circumstance where this occurs. Once a Firefox instance is running subsequent invocations skip the profile manager and start a new window with the same profile as the first. Is this intended behaviour? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Question re RHEL 5.3
MHR wrote: The one problem I've seen and posted here was w.r.t. smartd error reports showing 2^32 - 1 errors on one of the disks (probably my system disk) every few minutes. I thought this was more than just a bit suspicious, since there are only 4,687,500,000 sectors on a 300GB disk, and the likelihood of having errors on 4,294,967,295 (~92%) of them is rather slim unless the whole system is crashing a lot (it's not). It's a Seagate 300GB, so I ran Seagate's SeaTools on it in lightweight mode, and no problems were reported, which is good because the disk is only about a year and a half old and has my CentOS root, swap, boot and home partitions on it. Precisely what error counters are alarming you? If these are the raw numbers for Raw_Read_Error_Rate, Hardware_ECC_Recovered, and Seek_Error_Rate, it is normal for Seagate drives. Look at the normalized values for these attributes. As long as they are not approaching their failure thresholds, the drive is OK. For further reassurance you can run the SMART long offline tests (smartctl -t long /dev/whatever -- see smartctl manpage for details) on the drive. You need to understand something about modern drives. In the past, drives achieved the first level of redundancy by recording each bit in a large enough area to include many magnetic domains. If some percentage of the domains failed to hold the data (a highly likely situation), that was OK because the read head would get enough signal from the rest of the domains so that the bit would be detected correctly. Fast forward to today. That multi-domain redundancy is all but gone, having been replaced by more advanced error correcting codes implemented in hardware. Seagate has elected to have the raw number for Raw_Read_Error_Rate report each instance of sectors needing this level of correction and let the normalized values reflect whether these corrections are occurring at a rate higher than expected. A similar situation exists for Seek_Error_Rate. When a drive performs a seek, there is a trade-off between speed and accuracy. You can make it more likely that the heads go directly to the right track by moving them more slowly and allowing more settling time. Performance can be improved significantly by moving the heads more abruptly and accepting that some percentage of the time a subsequent small adjustment will be needed to get to the right track. Again, it is the normalized value for Seek_Error_Rate that reports whether these adjustments are becoming necessary more often than expected. -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Dag Wieers wrote: ... Hmm, I am pretty sure at some point in the past registering to RHN was free without entitlements. That is how I have delegated systems and entitlements to other people within RPMforge. Maybe it is different now. I will have to find out and document on the Wiki in detail. Another data point. I have a valid RHN login but with all entitlements expired - did not renew and moved everything to CentOS. RHN will only show me ISOs for old RH products - no RHEL ISOs beta or otherwise. Back when the RHEL5(.0) beta came out the subscription was still active and I was able to get and test that Beta. From past experience IIRC, if one tries to create a new account it must use a new email address, otherwise an error is returned about the address already being in use. Also, if attempting a new registration, from: https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/sales/LoginInfo.do Red Hat Network provides Red Hat subscription customers with software downloads, updates, security errata, and systems management capabilities. To access these Red Hat Network benefits, customers must log in to Red Hat Network using a Red Hat login associated with at least one active subscription to a Red Hat product or service. :-( Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tom Brown wrote: in other news, you dont need to dump + reload when you move from mysql-4 to mysql-5, just service mysqld stop; yum update mysql\*; /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade ; service mysqld start i am changing the actual box so i have to dump and then import as i am also moving from centos4 to 5 - rsync or tar the /var/lib/mysql dir up and move that. I am guessing in this case that some delimiter is breaking or the dump you did wasent clean. But make sure mysqld is not running on either box when doing it this way. Also, if you have any innodb tables you must have the exact same innodb settings in your /etc/my.cnf -- -matt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dazuko module Panda Antivirus
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Gopinath Achari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Panda antivirus for linux but it uses Dazuko module for updating virus definition downloaded from internet to virus definitions database. So i downloaded dazuko ( tar package) software and tryed to install. But it generates the below defined errors, Which module in the kernel has to be enabled. Please help me i am using Centos 5.2 with kernel version of 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5xen (snip) error: capabilities are built-in to the kernel: you will need to recompile a kernel with capabilities as a kernel module This is a known issue with Dazuko. You can find some hint/solution in this forum thread: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12894forum=28post_id=43082#forumpost43082 Although it was with CentOS-4, the same solution should be applicable to CentOS-5. There is another thread and Ned Slider offered an alternative solution: http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=16924forum=45 Hope this helps, Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Dag Wieers wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Michael Simpson wrote: On 10/29/08, Dag Wieers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Mikael Fridh wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:36:35AM +, Karanbir Singh wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/software/channel/downloads/Download.do?cid=6002 https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/software/channel/downloads/Download.do?cid=6007 Would be so much nicer if Red Hat also realised this [1] and made some of those beta isos public. I was really looking forward to testing this but when my download completes in 3 hours I might have forgotten about it completely. I'm too used to 10MB/s local mirror speeds :/ Bringing down the barrier for people to test and report problems for RHEL Betas is something we have to discuss together with Red Hat. I discussed some of my wishes in an earlier blog post: http://dag.wieers.com/blog/rhel-beta-test-sig but the dialogue has not taken place yet. I think this is one of those very profound win-win situations that we have to take advantage of. As per the suggestion on Dag's blog i would be very happy to participate in any sort of beta for 5.3. I don't have a RHN subscription so my ability to get hold of the iso is limited but there are a couple of features in 5.3 that would be of use for my company's current projects - so much so that we may be delaying a proposed roll out for them Ok, what may not have been obvious from my mail (and I will make sure I fix that next announcement) is that anyone should be able to register on RHN for downloading these Betas. So you do not have to be a customer to get an RHN account. If there was to be any sort of CentOS based testing effort then i would like to throw my hat (and a dell 2950III) into the ring Well, you could become part of this effort. I would like to create one or more pages on the Wiki just for this purpose. We could allow people to write down what they tested, on what hardware and the items that failed. And in case they made any bugreports, we could link them on the same wiki-page. The aim obviously is to report as much to Red Hat as possible, but also to record what problems others could verify in helping those reports. The other aim is to make sure we have a good idea of what problems we can expect in the upcoming CentOS 5.3 for the release notes. What kernel version is in 5.3? Still 2.6.18? there is an IPsec patch now in 2.6.27, BEET mode for ESP. I need this mode for HIP in kernel mode, and have yet to successfully patch the kernel myself (the HIPL team does supply a BEET patch for the 2.6.18 kernel, but...). So I do not have a RH account. I suspect corporate does, but I am too distant from them to get access. how might I go about getting attention on the BEET ESP mode? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
2008/10/30 Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: how might I go about getting attention on the BEET ESP mode? bugzilla.redhat.com should do the trick. Regards, Laurent ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Can one invoke multiple INSTANCEs of Firefox on CentOS
On Thu, October 30, 2008 09:56, lists-centos wrote: you can do this by putting: setenv MOZ_NO_REMOTE 1 in your .cshrc (i'll let you figure out the bash equiv if that's what you're using). and then use (e.g., in your icon's properties entry): /usr/bin/firefox -SelectProfile %u to start an instance. This works. Thank you. The magical invocation is: Edit ~/.bashrc or /etc/bashrc and add: # Force Mozilla (Firefox) to prompt for profiles # and start as separate instances for each. MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1; export MOZ_NO_REMOTE # Then invoke via firefox -SelectProfile %u Log out and restart the desktop to get the changes to take effect for the panel and menus. Changes made to ~/.bashrc or /etc/bashrc are picked up with each new terminal window opened and do not require a logout or source command if you invoke Firefox from the command line instead. Many thanks. Now I can lose myself in the madness of model-model, view, controller xml whe -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in other news, you dont need to dump + reload when you move from mysql-4 to mysql-5, just service mysqld stop; yum update mysql\*; /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade ; service mysqld start Theoretically true, but if you ask MySQL.com support they'll tell you that a dump and restore is advisable. It all depends on which features you were using. As just one example, if you were relying on some of the previous auto-update semantics of timestamp columns, you'll need to alter all the corresponding table definitions manually; the upgrade process won't do it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [OT] List of all email users
This is not CentOS-specific, hence OT. I need a list of all email users on my system (there are hundreds of them). The list could be extracted from /etc/aliases and the virtusertable. Does anyone know of a script that would do this automatically? It would have to - exclude commented-out lines (of course) - exclude duplicates - produce a list of usernames (or maybe unresolved email addresses for some users) separated by a comma I imagine perl would be the way to go. I haven't used perl at all myself. Regards, Jussi -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. fax +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.greenspot.fi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Hmm, I am pretty sure at some point in the past registering to RHN was free without entitlements. That is how I have delegated systems and entitlements to other people within RPMforge. Maybe it is different now. I will have to find out and document on the Wiki in detail. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- Hi Dag according to RHN the only software that i can download is redhat 7.1,7.2,7.3 and 9 Without paying for a subscription for a machine i get No images were found matching your criteria So registering is free but entitlement isn't. This was tried with both a corporate and personal login for RHN. I guess i'll have to wait until a public release. best wishes mike ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] no network kernel boot option
I am looking for a kernel boot option that specifies nonetwork I have found in searching the nousb - nopcmcia etc but I have not found one for nonetwork. Is there one and what is it called? Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Mogens Kjaer wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: ... Ok, what may not have been obvious from my mail (and I will make sure I fix that next announcement) is that anyone should be able to register on RHN for downloading these Betas. So you do not have to be a customer to get an RHN account. You can download and install, however, in order to do: yum update or even: yum install something you have to register the system on one of your available subscriptions. That's how I experience it - I could be wrong? Can you create a local repo that you keep current with rsync? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] List of all email users
Jussi Hirvi wrote: This is not CentOS-specific, hence OT. I need a list of all email users on my system (there are hundreds of them). The list could be extracted from /etc/aliases and the virtusertable. Does anyone know of a script that would do this automatically? It would have to - exclude commented-out lines (of course) - exclude duplicates - produce a list of usernames (or maybe unresolved email addresses for some users) separated by a comma for i in /etc/aliases /etc/postfix/virtual; do cat $i | grep -Ev (^#|^\s+$|^$) | sed -e s/:// | awk '{print $1}' | \ sort -u | tr \\n , done Adapt to needs. Ralph pgpJ8rYkqKVYp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 5.3 Beta released, beta-testers needed
Robert Moskowitz wrote: ... Can you create a local repo that you keep current with rsync? And where should I rsync it from? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] List of all email users
Jussi Hirvi wrote: For real-world use, I guess the source files (in my case aliases, virtusertable) should be prepared first - the list will include unwanted users like bin or mysql, mailing list name defined in virtusertable, and possibly other strange things too. and what about the user accounts in /etc/passwd ? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] List of all email users
Jussi Hirvi wrote: Ralph Angenendt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) kirjoitteli (30.10.2008 17:12): for i in /etc/aliases /etc/postfix/virtual; do cat $i | grep -Ev (^#|^\s+$|^$) | sed -e s/:// | awk '{print $1}' | \ sort -u | tr \\n , done Thanks, that looks neat, and works. For real-world use, I guess the source files (in my case aliases, virtusertable) should be prepared first - the list will include unwanted users like bin or mysql, mailing list name defined in virtusertable, and possibly other strange things too. And (I forgot to say that) - it weeds out users with a : in their mail address, which is completely valid. So you should check that also. Cheers, Ralph pgpMpr2V4oXIt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Using CentOS repos in a RHEL machine
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:47:23AM -0700, MHR enlightened us: The only limitation I have been able to see with RHEL's yum is the lack of the priorities plugin. You can use protectbase as a replacement. Well, sort of - priorities is far more flexible, so protectbase is sort of a crippled replacement at best. But, at least it's there Agreed, but because of the way the rhn plugin works in yum, you can't assign a priority to it. Apparently they've modified the plugin to set protect=1 on RHN channels, so if you add other repos and don't want core system packages replaced, set protect=0 and enable protectbase. Matt -- Matt Hyclak Systems and Operations Office of Information Technology Ohio University (740) 593-1222 pgpptAmVGJEgd.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: boot problems
on 10-30-2008 5:31 AM Phil Schaffner spake the following: Phil Schaffner wrote: At least it was a correctly spelled typo. Still need that grammar checker!!! Who's working on putting on in Thunderbird? Evolution? s/on/one/ - before someone else jumps on me :-) I have to read my outgoing mails twice before I hit send! ;-D -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: changing partition priority on install
on 10-29-2008 5:54 PM Monty Shinn spake the following: Phil Schaffner wrote: snip A GRUB boot CD (or floppy) will allay the above concerns. Do an info grub to find out how to create one. Can also boot from install media to recover a lost GRUB. I did not find an option during the install prep to re-locate grub to the MBR of /dev/sdb. I probably should try the text-based installer to see if there are more options. It is there in the GUI installer - can't remember exactly where without going through the install, but something like an Advanced button on a configuration page toward the end of the process. Heck, I may just remove the 9550 board until the initial os install is completed. That should accomplish what I am trying to achieve. Just seems like there should be a more elegant way of doing this. I am installing 5.1 because I have the isos on hand. I was just going to let yum update me to 5.2... That should work. Thanks for your help, OK Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Phil, Thanks for your input. I did find the location of the grub install modification. Strange thing is, when I restarted the install, grub defaulted to the MBR of /dev/sdb. I did not change any hardware or bios settings in between attempts. I have no idea why the change happened. Once the install was completed, the OS partition showed up as /dev/sda, even though it showed up as /dev/sdb during the installation process. Grub is apparently happily residing in the MBR of /dev/sda. Again, I can't explain it. If you (or anyone else) has insights to this behaviour, or can point me to where I can read up on it, I would appreciate it. Thanks again for all your help. Monty The only thing I can add is since you have 2 different families of 3ware cards, one is using the 3w-9xxx driver and the other is using the 3w- driver. Whichever driver that loads first will determine which card initializes first. First array gets /dev/sda. I think there are ways to force a driver to load first, you have to adjust the alias scsi_hostadapter lines in /etc/modprobe.conf in the order you want them to load like; alias scsi_hostadapter 3w- alias scsi_hostadapter1 3w-9xxx and then make a new initrd. Since yours seems ok now, this is for posterity. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Desktop Choice Centos 4/Centos 5 or Fedora 9
I have a choice of CentOS 4/5 and Fedora 9 on a laptop. I have not use CentOS 5 on a desktop but have used CentOS 4 and Fedora 9. I found the Fedora Gnome not as appealing as the CentOS 4 clearlooks. Any opinions from someone who has used CentOS 4/5 and Fedora? I'm not a KDE fan so KDE users need not reply. Regards, Vandaman. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] no network kernel boot option
Jerry Geis a écrit : I am looking for a kernel boot option that specifies nonetwork I have found in searching the nousb - nopcmcia etc but I have not found one for nonetwork. Is there one and what is it called? You can create profiles with system-config-network if needed and modify grub to reflect which network profile you want to use .. But i admit that since NetworkManager is there i don't use the profiles anymore : just use NM and just say that the nic doesn't have to start at boot (onboot=no) : if there is a connection detected, NM will use it ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mysql 4 5 export import issue
Hi, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:14, Tom Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am migrating a mailserver from CentOS 4 to 5 and i am migrating the db's over from mysql-max-4.1.13 to mysql-server-5.0.45-7.el5 during the mysql import it fails with this... ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 129: Duplicate entry '3-r��?�' for key 1 The characters look binary, so this might be a problem of conversion latin1 - utf8 or vice versa. Try dumping with: mysqldump --default-character-set=binary ... /path/to/dumpfile And loading the dump with: mysql --default-character-set=binary ... /path/to/dumpfile Let us know if that works. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: Desktop Choice Centos 4/Centos 5 or Fedora 9
on 10-30-2008 11:11 AM vandaman2002-rt-/[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake the following: I have a choice of CentOS 4/5 and Fedora 9 on a laptop. I have not use CentOS 5 on a desktop but have used CentOS 4 and Fedora 9. I found the Fedora Gnome not as appealing as the CentOS 4 clearlooks. Any opinions from someone who has used CentOS 4/5 and Fedora? I'm not a KDE fan so KDE users need not reply. Regards, Vandaman. First thing is to see if your laptop will support CentOS. That might be the determining factor. Maybe try the live cd's -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
I need to experiment with ldap for a site I manage, and wondered if vmware would be a good way to go for some testing. My current server is RHEL3, which is getting dated, and I think that I should refresh this server entirely in the move to ldap. We need to have an ldap server for publishing email addresses for a VPN for a nursing home that the upstream can harvest and we can browse to send confidential patient records. RHEL3 prollie won't cut it, so I'm considering moving to CentOS5. If I get a nice working test environment working, I wondered about running the server on VMWare, because the hardware will likely need to be refreshed in 2 years anyways. Copying the vmware file and the data to a new server would make for a fast upgrade. Any feedback on what I am attempting to do here? Any other recommendations on how I should tackle this? Currently I'm using Samba 3 with passdb. It's nothing fancy, but it works. We have about 20 XP machines here. The server also hosts mail as well. -- -=/Thom ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: no network kernel boot option
Jerry Geis a écrit : / I am looking for a kernel boot option that specifies nonetwork // I have found in searching the nousb - nopcmcia etc but I have not // found one for nonetwork. // Is there one and what is it called? // /You can create profiles with system-config-network if needed and modify grub to reflect which network profile you want to use .. But i admit that since NetworkManager is there i don't use the profiles anymore : just use NM and just say that the nic doesn't have to start at boot (onboot=no) : if there is a connection detected, NM will use it Thanks I was aware of those. however I was looking for a method on the kernel boot line (as in I am installing and I dont want the network driver to load). I can accomplish this with noprobe but then everything is gone. There are individual items like nousb nopcmcia and I was looking and have not found one for nonetwork. Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: no network kernel boot option
Jerry Geis wrote: ... Thanks I was aware of those. however I was looking for a method on the kernel boot line (as in I am installing and I dont want the network driver to load). I can accomplish this with noprobe but then everything is gone. There are individual items like nousb nopcmcia and I was looking and have not found one for nonetwork. Closest kernel boot parameter seems to be the netdev= option. Could perhaps use it with the dummy.ko device - don't know the details of how that would work. See: /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-*/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-*/Documentation/networking/net-modules.txt Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
Thom Paine wrote: I need to experiment with ldap for a site I manage, and wondered if vmware would be a good way to go for some testing. Yes. My current server is RHEL3, which is getting dated, and I think that I should refresh this server entirely in the move to ldap. We need to have an ldap server for publishing email addresses for a VPN for a nursing home that the upstream can harvest and we can browse to send confidential patient records. RHEL3 prollie won't cut it, so I'm considering moving to CentOS5. If I get a nice working test environment working, I wondered about running the server on VMWare, because the hardware will likely need to be refreshed in 2 years anyways. Copying the vmware file and the data to a new server would make for a fast upgrade. Should work if you can afford the performance hit of VMware overhead. Would probably want to use bridged networking. Any feedback on what I am attempting to do here? Any other recommendations on how I should tackle this? Currently I'm using Samba 3 with passdb. It's nothing fancy, but it works. We have about 20 XP machines here. The server also hosts mail as well. Does not seem like a big load. Pretty easy to give it a try. You can even DL a CentOS VMware pre-built image for Player and bypass installation: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/ http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/ Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does not seem like a big load. Pretty easy to give it a try. You can even DL a CentOS VMware pre-built image for Player and bypass installation: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/ http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/ For a CentOS VMware pre-built image, look no further ... http://people.centos.org/tru/vmware/ Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Possibly OT: intermittently long response times, when connecting to host
--snip-- I'm working with some folks to develop a web site with a very similar configuration (Apache, Drupal, MySQL, not sure which Linux distro is underneath it all though) that's hosted by IX web hosting. We are seeing very similar behavior. It has gotten better since we complained to IX but we still see a significant lag the first time the site loads. The fast load on subsequent visits could be explained by Drupal doing some caching of needed items so it doesn't have to go to the database. The initial site load time became much more noticeable after IX took some kind of hit on their DB server. All we know is the site suddenly couldn't connect to the database, they fixed something on their end and the database came back but we've had the long lag for first load ever since. BTW, pleased to make your acquaintance, Dave. Cheers, Dave Miller -- Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. -- Ambrose Bierce ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos We were thinking along similar lines and turned off caching. We also added the drupal 'devel' module. It can be set up to show all the DB calls a page is making. So far some slow queries, but nowhere near explaining the whole 10-12s. So far I've been able to rule out apache, php rendering, and DNS. It's almost definitely a MySQL connection issue, and I'm reasonably certain it's a php-mysql issue. Interestingly we've copied over the drupal install to Fedora 8 and Fedora 9 boxes and it runs like a champ. I've got a basic Drupal 6.5 install on my desktop (CentOS 5.2 x86_64) and it runs well. I'm in the process of installing CentOS 5.2 on another ESX VM to see if something was installed wrong, etc. Not ruling out operator error here. Nice to meet you as well, Dave. There certainly are a few of us floating around. Thanks. David M Miller ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] nfs mounted /home and selinux
I'm trying to set the context on an nfs mounted /home. I believe exactly like in Redhat's Deployment Guide at http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Deployment_Guide/ch45s02s03.html On my system running CentOS 5.2: $ ls -alZ /home drwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:home_root_t. drwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:root_t .. $ mount -t nfs -o context=user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t \ server001a:/vol/vol01/home /home $ ls -alZ /home drwxrwxr-x root rootsystem_u:object_r:nfs_t . drwxr-xr-x root rootsystem_u:object_r:root_t .. drwx-- fred users system_u:object_r:nfs_t fred drwx-- mike users system_u:object_r:nfs_t mike drwx-- aliceusers system_u:object_r:nfs_t alice $ mount -l server001a:/vol01/home on /home type nfs (rw,context=user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t:s0,addr=10.1.1.11) Shouldn't the users be set to user_u:object_r:user_home_dir_t? I feel like I am missing something simple... I don't see any avc or related syslog messages and the nfs server is an older netapp if that matters. thanks, marc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
Am 30.10.2008 um 20:37 schrieb Thom Paine: I need to experiment with ldap for a site I manage, and wondered if vmware would be a good way to go for some testing. You can use either VMware Server 2.0 or VMware VI3i, provided your hardware is supported. VMware Server needs some OS as base (CentOS5 should do well), but 3i goes on the bare metal - it's based on RHEL, too, though. 4 GB of RAM is the absolute minimum. I wouldn't virtualize all storage. Use a separate server and NFS mount all storage from that, if you can (maybe Samba is the exception - SMB- exporting NFS-mounted stuff makes Samba even more tricky than it already is). But the less disk-I/O you've got to virtualize, the higher the overall performance you can yield. You can virtualize mail, but only if it doesn't do much I/O. Else it will be painfully slow. What's your storage? How do you plan to backup stuff? CentOS is not officially supported by VMware (probably never will). If you have a problem, you're on your own. And VMware is not open-source. But I'm not sure if there's actually anyting in the market that is better than VMware (for full virtualization). Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
Akemi Yagi wrote: ... For a CentOS VMware pre-built image, look no further ... http://people.centos.org/tru/vmware/ Akemi, Did not know about those, and can't find any links from the CentOS home page or the Wiki. Am I missing something, or are these TODO items for Johnny and the docs team? Would be nice to see them prominently advertised. Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
I've been a RH/Fedora guy since the RH8 days. When Fedora came along, I moved to it, but its been a bit painful beta testing software all the time. I ran Ubuntu for a while, but I found their package management to be difficult... I do a lot of technical work, development and loading and building special stuff. I much prefer RPMs over other methods of package distribution. Presently I'm miffed with the Fedora community. Back in July I blindly upgraded to F9 because I was in need of a few things that it shipped with. Little did I know it contained KDE4 or more precisely a rough, unfinished version of KDE4. I stuck with it, however, and upgraded to KDE4.1 and finally to KDE 4.1.2. About a month ago I received a new laptop. Being it was a new machine, I did a fresh install of F8 on it, thus dumping KDE4. While all has been well since then, I am watching the KDE4 release schedule and noting that I don't think KDE4 is going to be done, ie polished and ready to use until late spring, 2009. I've also noted the Fedora is going to abandon support for F8 before Christmas. As F9 contains a very bleeding edge version of KDE4, I am loathe to upgrade to it. Thus I am shopping for a new OS to solve this problem and the problem of continually being a beta tester if one is an up to date Fedora user. With Fedora it seems that one just gets a new installation working nicely when support for it is dropped and the cycle starts all over again. I'd like to get away from that. So... questions. a) I am running F8 right now. Most, but not all, of the package versions seem about the same as CentOS 5.2. Kernels are the notable exception to this rule. Could I forego F8 updates for a while, to leave CentOS catch up, and then add the CentOS repository to my repo list and update to the CentOS via yum ? b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? c) Is there any problem with using the livna repository for various things that I might need ? I notice that they don't have a CentOS specific repository, but would it be OK to point to F8 or so and use those RPMs ? Thanks I'm listening if you have any other comments or advice on my situation. LG ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
Akemi Yagi wrote: These vmware images have been built, maintained and provided by Tru Huynh. I don't think it's been officially announced. I agree this should be more advertised. As long as its clearly highlighted that they wont / dont work with Xen... I suppose they are not vmware specific either, since they help under kvm / xVM / qemu as well. So, changing the name to kernel-vmware might not be a good idea either. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the centos-plus repos ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Re: Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
Scott Silva wrote: Actually, CentOS 5 branched from Fedora 6. At that point they did a freeze on changes to the OS. That is not true, there are plenty of changes to the kernel, including rebases's, updates, fix's and even new packages being added in and obsolete ones being removed. CentOS-5 today has little in functional terms common to fedora6. There are still some leaf nodes from those days, but saying something like 'freeze on changes to the OS' is just wrong. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the centos-plus repos ? That would not be a bad idea. I always wondered how well a recent kernel would work with CentOS 5, but I never took the time to test a Fedora kernel on my dependable boxes. A project with this focus might indeed be useful. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: ... For a CentOS VMware pre-built image, look no further ... http://people.centos.org/tru/vmware/ Akemi, Did not know about those, and can't find any links from the CentOS home page or the Wiki. Am I missing something, or are these TODO items for Johnny and the docs team? Would be nice to see them prominently advertised. These vmware images have been built, maintained and provided by Tru Huynh. I don't think it's been officially announced. I agree this should be more advertised. I guess this should become part of the virtualization SIG. Maybe a good listing of different virtualization projects on the SIG page would be a good start ? I don't know if Daniel is still involved, but I am sure that help from others would be very helpful ! -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Dag Wieers wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the centos-plus repos ? That would not be a bad idea. I always wondered how well a recent kernel would work with CentOS 5, but I never took the time to test a Fedora kernel on my dependable boxes. A project with this focus might indeed be useful. Let me add that nothing should be holding you (anyone) from starting a project by sending an email with intentions, get hold of a wiki-page to list your ideas and progress and motivating people to help and test. Whether that is a bleeding-edge kernel project, a new tool to migrate sideways to and from RHEL, or a design, documentation or translation project. I am sure your effort is useful, but often it needs commitment and determination to get things going. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the centos-plus repos ? IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels (derived from the same kernel versions with additional components being turned on) would be required. Otherwise there would be too much risk of people unintentionally updating to bleeding-edge kernels. Along these lines, it might be a good idea to add some of the other more modern features for those who want them and understand the risks - again in a clearly specified bleeding-edge repo (or repos) - as long as people are willing to step up and help with building, testing, and maintaining packages. From recent requests on the list there seems to be some pent-up demand for newer features. This could help establish CentOS as both a platform that can be used by those who want EL stability but don't need the support, and as a bridge for testing new features on a stable base. Phil ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT - Please don't feed the Troll(s)
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:10:23PM -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: I fully understand the emotional need to respond to one who throws around terms like Communist, Tyrannical, etc. even if ostensibly [...] My feeling was the OP is either an ignorant, unappreciative, self-centered, and emotionally immature person that expects all projects You tripped the irony detector. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xdroop.com pgpAooRMhr8IO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tired of Fedora, shopping for a new OS. Upgrade from F8 ? CentOS kernel versions ?
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: b) One of the things I really need are up to date (bleeding edge) kernels. For example, F8 has 2.6.26 kernels, whereas CentOS appears to be running 2.6.18 kernels. I do know how to build my own kernels, but that is a pain. Does someone keep a separate repository that has more modern kernels ? Can yum be configured to use only specific packages (ie kernels) from a specific repository ? Why not step up and offer to maintain a bleeding edge kernel in the centos-plus repos ? IMHO should be a separate repo, or at least a naming scheme that would let people still use the traditional centos-plus kernels (derived from the same kernel versions with additional components being turned on) would be required. Otherwise there would be too much risk of people unintentionally updating to bleeding-edge kernels. I think it would need to be a seperate repo for other reasons... I believe lots of userspace/kernelspace changed in the 2.6.22 time frame so a lot of sub-packages need to handle to. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. The Merchant of Venice ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
Rainer Duffner wrote: VMware Server needs some OS as base (CentOS5 should do well), but 3i goes on the bare metal - it's based on RHEL, too, though. ESX is not based on linux at all. ESX(not ESXi) includes a service console that is based off of RHEL-3 though that is for management only, virtualization runs entirely within the hypervisor which is transparent to the user. There is also a linux compatibility layer I believe for drivers. ESXi did away with the service console concept almost entirely. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] VMWare Sandbox
nate wrote: ESX is not based on linux at all. ESX(not ESXi) includes a service console that is based off of RHEL-3 though that is for management only, virtualization runs entirely within the hypervisor which is transparent to the user. I've always been curious, in ESX, what manages the physical IO devices, what provides the actual hardware drivers for things like fiberchannel cards, network adapters, and so forth? does ESX have all its own direct hardware support? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos