RE: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS

2008-11-09 Thread John
Akemi Wrote:

This makes me think we need to look at how we can 
restructure the information on the Wiki to make it more accessible or 
maybe produce pages that bring together related but individually 
scattered content in a more structured (easier to find and navigate) 
manner.

JohnStanley Writes:

Well I thought I was the only one thinking like that. Color of the Wiki is a
great choice but one problem. It needs to be designed with ADD in mind.
Attention Deficent Disorder That's right. Things need better organization
and classification. What I get asked a lot is what the heck is CentOS? Well
the wiki doesn't tell you and the main centos.org doesn't really say. Every
one does not know it is a derivative of Red Hat EL.

Besides, What is an Ent. Class OS there could also be How CentOS can be
utilized as a Desktop.

Just my thought and opinion...

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Re: [CentOS] only backup selected files

2008-11-09 Thread Bent Terp
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sure there will be other ideas but in the absence of an include these
 files file option, you could employ a simple loop to append the files in a

man tar:
   -T, --files-from F
  get names to extract or create from file F

 list to a tar archive.  For example, if you had a file named include with
 these 3 records

   /bin/gawk
   /etc/fstab
   /etc/resolv.conf

 This would cause the 3 files to be archived as included.tar.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ while read inc ; do echo including: $inc ; tar -v -r 
 $inc -f
  included.tar ; done  include

or: tar -jvrc included.tar.bz2 --files-from include

BR Bent
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Re: [CentOS] centralized logs server and also storing the logs on the local server

2008-11-09 Thread Bent Terp
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:57 AM, ankush grover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 store all the logs on the local server aka means logs will be sent to
 the central log server but also will be stored on the local server.

I see two ways of doing this: 1) use rsyslog and multiple rules, one
for writing to local file and another for TCP forwarding to central
syslog server. 2) Do the logging locally, and let logrotate copy the
files to the central location.

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Re: [CentOS] centralized logs server and also storing the logs on the local server

2008-11-09 Thread Dirk H. Schulz

Ankush,

--On 9. November 2008 13:27:42 +0530 ankush grover [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi Friends,

I am running most of my company's Linux Servers on Centos 4.x/5.x 32
and 64-bit. I am now trying to configure a centralized logging server
where logs of all the linux servers will be stored and also I want to
store all the logs on the local server aka means logs will be sent to
the central log server but also will be stored on the local server.
The reason for storing the logs locally is because we have offices in
different cities and few more offices are coming up and it is good to
store the logs locally so that when the connectivity b/w the offices
break the logs does not get lost. There are lots of configuration
available on internet which tells how to send the logs to the
centralized log server but I did not find any configuration where logs
can be stored locally as well as send to the centralized log.


If you use rsyslog from base repo that is easy to achieve. Rsyslog replaces 
syslog; thus you can copy your existing syslog.conf into rsyslog.conf and 
just add an enty for sending everything to the central log host 
additionally, like e.g.

*.* @@your.loghost.tld

On the loghost you switch to rsyslog as well and open it up for remote 
logging in /etc/sysconfig/rsyslog (it is documented there). Be aware to 
upen up your loghost's local firewall, if you use it.


On of the advantages of using rsyslog is that on the central loghost you 
can stuff everything in a mysql database (again additionally to plain log 
files) quite easy - that makes automated evaluation of log entries much 
more convenient.





Moreover I am also looking for logs analyzer tool which can generate
reports separately for each host for ex there are logs of 15 servers
are stored on the server and this logs analyzer tool should generate
reports separately for each host.


What exactly do yo want the analyzer to do? The simplest thing would be to 
use logwatch on the servers and customize it, but that depends on what kind 
of analyzation you have in mind.


Dirk

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Re: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
Miguel Medalha  wrote:

 Vandaman wrote
  I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though
  putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in
 the samba config file would hide files with a tilde.
  
  [homes]
 comment = Home Directories
 browseable = no
 writable = yes
 hide files = /~*/
  
  
  Unfortunately after restarting the server the files
  are still visible.

 If you have Windows Explorer set to show hidden files, they
 will appear in a dim color.
 

Actually hide works exactly as intended. I needed some coffee
and after some sleep. Revisiting the issue, it now works.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
Lanny Marcus  wrote:

 There is a Permissions problem, when I try to access
 /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab so I can edit them. How
 can I do
 that, using the Live CD's I have? I need root access.
 

Instead of using a LIVECD, have you tried using the CentOS
rescue CD and then using the grub command. I don't have Centos 5
but you can look at the CentOS docs or a quick Fedora example below.

http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/158-System-Recovery-Week-Rescue-Mode-and-Reinstalling-Grub.html

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 08 November 2008 22:26:51 John R Pierce wrote:
 I note that the commands you're seeing are aliased explicitly in

     /root/.bashrc

That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
Ned Slider wrote:

 Your link is wrong. Here is the correct link:
 
 http://www.centos.org/docs/4/
 
  I also had a look on the CentOS forum and the forum
 FAQ still links to the above location.
  Example
 
 http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-installing.html
  
 
 No, the forum FAQ thread has the correct link for
 Documentation. See here:
 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14337forum=48
 
 Where are you looking to find the wrong link?
 

I was looking at the smartfaq below are my squid logs :-

1226225760.382   1773 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/200 14202 GET 
http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php? - DIRECT/72.232.194.162 
text/html
1226225782.162242 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/404 606 GET 
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-sag-en-4/ch-raid-intro.html - 
DIRECT/84.22.180.89 text/html
1226225782.745 37 10.0.0.3 TCP_MISS/404 566 GET 
http://mirror.centos.org/favicon.ico - DIRECT/84.22.180.89 text/html
1226225785.707  2 10.0.0.3 TCP_NEGATIVE_HIT/404 572 GET 
http://mirror.centos.org/favicon.ico - NONE/- text/html

Are you Ned Slider from the CentOS forum and have changed the faq links? 

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
Ned Slider  wrote:

 Where are you looking to find the wrong link?

Hmm its on http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS4 part 11
where it has several links and bottom says

FAQ/CentOS4 last edited 2008-03-23 15:19:48 by DagWieers

My point is that the docs used to be on mirror.centos.org
but have now been moved presumably without notice/announcement.

Regards,
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[CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
I don't log into the CentOS forum, CentOS chat
but I don't know why the docs were removed from
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/

I also had a look on the CentOS forum and the 
forum FAQ still links to the above location.
Example
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-installing.html

Not everyone uses IRC/Forum/Developers mailing list so
for the benefit of others, what happened to
the docs?

Regards,
Vandaman.



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Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?

2008-11-09 Thread Ned Slider

Vandaman wrote:

Ned Slider  wrote:


Where are you looking to find the wrong link?


Hmm its on http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS4 part 11
where it has several links and bottom says

FAQ/CentOS4 last edited 2008-03-23 15:19:48 by DagWieers



Thanks - link fixed :-)

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[CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-09 Thread jarmo
Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
Centos, rhel, fedora?
Nice piece of commandline tools.

Jarmo
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-09 Thread partha chowdhury

Lanny Marcus wrote:



Booting 'CentOS (2.6.18-92.1.17.el5)'
root (hd0,2)
Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8e
Kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-92.1.17.el5 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet

Error 17: Cannot mount selected  partition
Press any key to continue





01   /dev/hda1  ntfs   Active
02   /dev/hda2 ext3  (/boot)
03   /dev/hda3 unknown  (CentOS LVM)




AFAIK,in centos or fedora a boot partition cannot reside in an LVM 
volume.a boot partition must be a regular ext2 or ext3 file system.


or are you trying to boot from from wrong partition ? /dev/hda2 is 
labled as boot and is an ext3 filesystem. so i am inclined to believe 
that is the partition where the vmlinuz and initrd file resides. you 
need to change the line root (hd0,2) to root (hd0,1) during booting.

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Re: [CentOS] What happened to the CentOS Docs?

2008-11-09 Thread Ned Slider

Vandaman wrote:

I don't log into the CentOS forum, CentOS chat
but I don't know why the docs were removed from
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/



Your link is wrong. Here is the correct link:

http://www.centos.org/docs/4/

I also had a look on the CentOS forum and the 
forum FAQ still links to the above location.

Example
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-grub-installing.html



No, the forum FAQ thread has the correct link for Documentation. See here:

http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14337forum=48

Where are you looking to find the wrong link?

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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 12:15:05AM -0500, Ted Miller wrote:
 Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 I have a project that I need some hardware pointers for.  I need to build 
 some Centos appliances (dedicated boxes to do one thing only).  Target 
 cost is under $250/box.
 
 Given the rest of the requirements, I would say something like:
 http://www.mini-box.com/M200-LCD-Enclosure
 
 By the time I fully configure the box it is slightly over my target price, 
 but given the user interaction on the front panel, I think I can live with 
 that.
 
 Have you used this box, or others from mini-box?

How about something like the Asus eeebox?
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Re: [CentOS] only backup selected files

2008-11-09 Thread Robert



Bent Terp wrote:

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I'm sure there will be other ideas but in the absence of an include these
files file option, you could employ a simple loop to append the files in a



man tar:
   -T, --files-from F
  get names to extract or create from file F
  

Yes, I overlooked that option, as I imagine the OP did.

list to a tar archive.  For example, if you had a file named include with
these 3 records

  /bin/gawk
  /etc/fstab
  /etc/resolv.conf

This would cause the 3 files to be archived as included.tar.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ while read inc ; do echo including: $inc ; tar -v -r 
$inc -f
 included.tar ; done  include



or: tar -jvrc included.tar.bz2 --files-from include
  

Almost
1. Options r and c are mutually exclusive.
tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
   Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
2. Without the f option, output goes to std out
This works:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar -jvcf included.tar.bz2 --files-from include
   tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
   /bin/gawk
   /etc/fstab
   /etc/resolv.conf
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I hope the OP has followed this far without giving up on our combined 
blunders.  :-(




BR Bent
  

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[CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

on this matter, Sunfire x4150 a 1U machine with 2xcpu sockets, eight
drive bays, 64 GB expandability, 4 NIC packs quite a punch for its
size.

I don't think I've ever seen such power in such a small package


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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 08:59:24PM +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 on this matter, Sunfire x4150 a 1U machine with 2xcpu sockets, eight
 drive bays, 64 GB expandability, 4 NIC packs quite a punch for its
 size.

Sunfire X4540; 4U, dual quad core AMD Opteron, 48 (count them!) hotswap
SATA drives (so can scale to 48TByte of space in 4U), etc etc.

When Sun came out with the X4500 I immediately said NAS server.  Then
Sun came out with ZFS and I said Really, NAS server.  Now I note that
the X4540 is marketed as Simply the best selling storage server.  Heh.

ZFS is really nice.  If VMware was supported on Solaris 86 then I
would have built my own home server with Solaris rather than CentOS.
(Although I'm not using VMware on that machine, at present; merely
UserModeLinux for my protected instances).  But CentOS is handling my
5*1Tbyte RAID5 OK for now :-)


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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread nate
Stephen Harris wrote:

 ZFS is really nice.  If VMware was supported on Solaris 86 then I
 would have built my own home server with Solaris rather than CentOS.
 (Although I'm not using VMware on that machine, at present; merely
 UserModeLinux for my protected instances).  But CentOS is handling my
 5*1Tbyte RAID5 OK for now :-)

You know the inverse is true right? Solaris is supported on
VMWare ESX(i). Though SATA disks are not officially supported
by the VMFS file system in 3.x.

ESXi is as free as VMware server.

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RE: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-09 Thread Mark A. Lewis
 I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why I can't find these

 Anne

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# pwd
/root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat .bashrc
# .bashrc

# User specific aliases and functions

alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'

# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 08:30:42AM -0800, nate wrote:
 Stephen Harris wrote:
 
  ZFS is really nice.  If VMware was supported on Solaris 86 then I
  would have built my own home server with Solaris rather than CentOS.
  (Although I'm not using VMware on that machine, at present; merely
  UserModeLinux for my protected instances).  But CentOS is handling my
  5*1Tbyte RAID5 OK for now :-)
 
 You know the inverse is true right? Solaris is supported on
 VMWare ESX(i). Though SATA disks are not officially supported
 by the VMFS file system in 3.x.

I wanted Solaris as the Host OS so it could natively manage my disks
via ZFS.  Making it a guest would be pointless.  Underneath that I would
run a couple of smaller Linux instances (eg for internet facing services),
maybe a Windows instance and so on.

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RE: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-09 Thread John
I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though
putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in the 
samba config file would hide files with a tilde.
Vandaman Wrote:
[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   browseable = no
   writable = yes
   hide files = /~*/

# Try this ! 
# for the heck of of it hides files = /.jpg*/
# Could be the tilde Character

Unfortunately after restarting the server the files
are still visible.

JohnStanley Writes:
 Where is the folder at your using samba to share? Is this share on Windows?
If so I don't think it will ever work. However it will work on Samba 3 and 
under CentOS

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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality audio 
across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No Internet 
exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and the encoding 
box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software to run will 
probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will be using USB 
audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio Fast Track Pro.  
Because of the nature of the application, once it is booted up the only 
disk activity is occasional logging when there is a problem with the 
connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be getting 
other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge products that 
are more expensive but some include speakers.  Development specs are 
available for the soundbridge along with source for gpl'd code included 
with the netflix box.  Not sure about development on the netflix box, 
though.  Might be worth $99 just to take it apart and see what's in there.


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Re: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 08 November 2008 20:28:23 Vandaman wrote:
 I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though
 putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in the
 samba config file would hide files with a tilde.

You mean files starting with a tilde?

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

Ted Miller wrote:

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality audio 
across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No 
Internet exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and 
the encoding box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software 
to run will probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will 
be using USB audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio 
Fast Track Pro.  Because of the nature of the application, once it is 
booted up the only disk activity is occasional logging when there is 
a problem with the connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be 
getting other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge 
products that are more expensive but some include speakers.  
Development specs are available for the soundbridge along with source 
for gpl'd code included with the netflix box.  Not sure about 
development on the netflix box, though.  Might be worth $99 just to 
take it apart and see what's in there.


This would be more interesting for the playback end (no audio input 
capability is visible) if this were a one-time project, but we will 
probably have to supply more pairs in the future, so a more stable 
platform is more interesting.  Price is certainly right, but unlikely to 
hold, as they are charging $200 for their SoundBridge.


The netflix box is new hardware - and there doesn't seem to be much 
reason for promotional pricing.  They claim that they will release an 
SDK soon for anyone who wants to generate their own channel (but not 
opensource the box itself).  But as long as you can send some 
standard-protocol stream, why worry about matching the hardware?  A sip 
speakerphone might even work as an endpoint.


Here's an interview with the roku CEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z3zUCiELcI

The chumby is probably more hackable, but it already plays network streams.

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Re: [CentOS] centralized logs server and also storing the logs on the local server

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

ankush grover wrote:

Hi Friends,

I am running most of my company's Linux Servers on Centos 4.x/5.x 32
and 64-bit. I am now trying to configure a centralized logging server
where logs of all the linux servers will be stored and also I want to
store all the logs on the local server aka means logs will be sent to
the central log server but also will be stored on the local server.
The reason for storing the logs locally is because we have offices in
different cities and few more offices are coming up and it is good to
store the logs locally so that when the connectivity b/w the offices
break the logs does not get lost. There are lots of configuration
available on internet which tells how to send the logs to the
centralized log server but I did not find any configuration where logs
can be stored locally as well as send to the centralized log.


If you don't mind being somewhat behind on the central copies, the 
simple-minded way is to run a scripted rsync nightly to pull in whatever 
you want from the remote sites.  For the ones that logrotate renames, 
you'll have to adjust accordingly - or fix it so the name always 
contains the date.



Moreover I am also looking for logs analyzer tool which can generate
reports separately for each host for ex there are logs of 15 servers
are stored on the server and this logs analyzer tool should generate
reports separately for each host.


Analog is very versatile for web logs.  But any tool should be able to 
accept command line options for the files and output location so you can 
script the runs you want.  If you want to go crazy with reporting and 
analysis, look at the tools from
http://community.pentaho.com/index.php and figure out how to get the log 
fields into a database.


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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality audio 
across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No 
Internet exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and the 
encoding box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software to run 
will probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will be using 
USB audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio Fast Track 
Pro.  Because of the nature of the application, once it is booted up 
the only disk activity is occasional logging when there is a problem 
with the connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be getting 
other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge products that 
are more expensive but some include speakers.  Development specs are 
available for the soundbridge along with source for gpl'd code included 
with the netflix box.  Not sure about development on the netflix box, 
though.  Might be worth $99 just to take it apart and see what's in there.




Or this: perhaps a little too cutesy, but... http://www.chumby.com/

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RE: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
John wrote:

  Where is the folder at your using samba to share? Is this
 share on Windows?
 If so I don't think it will ever work. However it will
 work on Samba 3 and 
 under CentOS
 

It does work. I'm using XP and acccessing accessing the home dir
on a CentOS box. 

 [homes]
comment = Home Directories
browseable = no
writable = yes
hide files = /~*/

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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

Stephen Harris wrote:



Things have changed, but I don't want to rebuild now.  If I ever get
a new (better, stronger, faster) machine then I'll look into it again,
but then maybe ZFS on Linux will be a strong contender by that point :-)


Yeah - that'll come right after Hell freezes over.

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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:44:16PM -0500, Ross Walker wrote:
 On Nov 9, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:
 I wanted Solaris as the Host OS so it could natively manage my disks
 via ZFS.  Making it a guest would be pointless.  Underneath that I  
 would

 You know you may not find VMware server for Solaris, but there is always
 Xen or VirtualBox.

When I was looking at this, Xen wasn't anywhere near stable enough for
my liking (I did look into it, but the Xen kernel failed to boot on my
test box whereas the non-Xen kernel booted fine) and VirtualBox wasn't
suitable (this was before Sun took it over).

Things have changed, but I don't want to rebuild now.  If I ever get
a new (better, stronger, faster) machine then I'll look into it again,
but then maybe ZFS on Linux will be a strong contender by that point :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-09 Thread Vandaman
Anne Wilson wrote:

 Vandaman wrote:
  I may need a strong shot of coffee but I though
  putting hide files = /~*/ as follows in
 the
  samba config file would hide files with a tilde.
 
 You mean files starting with a tilde?
 

I expanded the selection to hide all files with a tilde.
I will also setup a music share and hide .ini and .jpg
files which are hidden on windows but would be displayed
on the Samba share.

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Re: [CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-09 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 00:25 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:30 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
  I need to add a drive with the same LVM labels (i.e. system) to a
  machine with a drive with the same label. How can I access the data on
  both drive's LVM partitions at the same time?
 
  You can't. Use vgrename on one of them.
 
 This is what I have:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ lvscan
   ACTIVE'/dev/System/root' [10.00 GB] inherit
 [snip]

 Basically, most HDD's are setup the same, but I want to add another
 HDD to the same server, and use data on both HDD's.
 
 So, do I rename System with vgrename then?

Yes. Don't forget to edit grub.conf and fstab and recreate your initrd.

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] Problem with widescreen display

2008-11-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic

On Saturday 01 November 2008 22:08, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 Basically, what I did was to run system-config-display to reconfigure for
 the new monitor and resolution. All goes well, but after X restarts, I see
 a strange picture: the resolution indeed goes to 1680x1050 as is supposed
 to, but is squeezed/shrinked/scaled horizontally to match a 4:3 aspect
 ratio, leaving two (unequal) black bands on the left and right side of the
 monitor.
[snip]
 The very same hardware and virtually same X configuration work perfectly ok
 on FC4
[snip]

Ok, just for the record, I resolved the issue, in the following way:

- took the exact modeline parameters for 1680x1050 (known to work) from FC4's 
Xorg.0.log and copy-pasted it into CentOS's xorg.conf
- also took the DisplaySize, HorizSync and VertRefresh parameters from the 
Fedora's log and put it into xorg.conf
- Disabled the DDC (undocumented option!!!)   - CRUCIAL  PART !!!
- took the modeline parameters for various other resolutions since without DDC 
nothing gets autoconfigured
- restarted X

Now everything works perfectly, and my hacked xorg.conf is just the default 
one with the following Monitor section:

Section Monitor
Identifier  Monitor0
ModelName   LCD Panel 1680x1050
# hacked DisplaySize --- note that the values are *wrong*,
# monitor is actually 470x300 mm
DisplaySize 370 280
HorizSync   31.5 - 90.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
Option  dpms
# turned off the DDC; didn't know which option would do
# the job so put them both there
Option  NoDDC true
Option  DDC false
# various modelines, taken from Fedora's log:
Modeline 1680x1050  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 1087 
-hsync 
+vsync
Modeline 1400x1050  122.00  1400 1488 1640 1880  1050 1052 1064 1082 
+hsync 
+vsync
Modeline 800x600   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync 
+vsync
Modeline 640x480   25.20  640 656 752 800  480 490 492 525 -hsync 
-vsync
EndSection

Hopefully someone with a similar problem maybe finds this useful. ;-)

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Les Mikesell

Stephen Harris wrote:

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 08:30:42AM -0800, nate wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:


ZFS is really nice.  If VMware was supported on Solaris 86 then I
would have built my own home server with Solaris rather than CentOS.
(Although I'm not using VMware on that machine, at present; merely
UserModeLinux for my protected instances).  But CentOS is handling my
5*1Tbyte RAID5 OK for now :-)

You know the inverse is true right? Solaris is supported on
VMWare ESX(i). Though SATA disks are not officially supported
by the VMFS file system in 3.x.


I wanted Solaris as the Host OS so it could natively manage my disks
via ZFS.  Making it a guest would be pointless.  Underneath that I would
run a couple of smaller Linux instances (eg for internet facing services),
maybe a Windows instance and so on.


Have you looked at virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org/)?
I haven't tried it myself but it looks like a match for vmware and can be
hosted on solaris.

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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread Ross Walker


On Nov 9, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:


On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 08:30:42AM -0800, nate wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:


ZFS is really nice.  If VMware was supported on Solaris 86 then I
would have built my own home server with Solaris rather than CentOS.
(Although I'm not using VMware on that machine, at present; merely
UserModeLinux for my protected instances).  But CentOS is handling  
my

5*1Tbyte RAID5 OK for now :-)


You know the inverse is true right? Solaris is supported on
VMWare ESX(i). Though SATA disks are not officially supported
by the VMFS file system in 3.x.


I wanted Solaris as the Host OS so it could natively manage my disks
via ZFS.  Making it a guest would be pointless.  Underneath that I  
would
run a couple of smaller Linux instances (eg for internet facing  
services),

maybe a Windows instance and so on.


You know you may not find VMware server for Solaris, but there is always
Xen or VirtualBox.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-09 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:30 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 I need to add a drive with the same LVM labels (i.e. system) to a
 machine with a drive with the same label. How can I access the data on
 both drive's LVM partitions at the same time?

 You can't. Use vgrename on one of them.

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This is what I have:

sh-3.2# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ pvscan
  PV /dev/md1   VG System   lvm2 [148.94 GB / 8.94 GB free]
  Total: 1 [148.94 GB] / in use: 1 [148.94 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0   ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ vgscan
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
l  Found volume group System using metadata type lvm2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ lvscan
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/root' [10.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/swap' [4.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/home' [10.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/data' [20.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/andrew_vmswap' [1.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/andrew_rootimg' [20.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/wiseguy' [11.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/pluto_rootimg' [20.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/wiseguy_vmswap' [1.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/wiseguy_rootimg' [20.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/keith_vmswap' [1.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/keith_rootimg' [20.00 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/System/pluto_vmswap' [2.00 GB] inherit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$





Basically, most HDD's are setup the same, but I want to add another
HDD to the same server, and use data on both HDD's.

So, do I rename System with vgrename then?
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Re: [CentOS] re: HA Storage

2008-11-09 Thread John R Pierce

Ross Walker wrote:

You know you may not find VMware server for Solaris, but there is always
Xen or VirtualBox.


and xVM Server which is Sun's version of Xen, with a Solaris domU and 
ZFS storage management. Last I looked, Sun is on the verge of 
releasing a paravirtualization driver package for MS Windows, too, which 
would make Windows in a VM perform very well (this is roughly equivalent 
to VMware Tools).



xVM Server is available now as part of SXCE and OpenSolaris now, and 
will be integrated into a future version of Solaris.



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Re: [CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-09 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote:

 Basically, most HDD's are setup the same, but I want to add another
 HDD to the same server, and use data on both HDD's.

 So, do I rename System with vgrename then?

If your wanting to add a new disk to the same volume
group and use it then no you don't need to rename
anything, you can use the vgextend command after
running pvcreate on the new disk to extend the
existing volume group to the new disk.

If your wanting to add an existing disk to a system
that already has a conflicting volume group name in
it, then yes you'll need to vgrename one of them so
they do not conflict.

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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Ted Miller

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality audio 
across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No 
Internet exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and the 
encoding box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software to run 
will probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will be using 
USB audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio Fast Track 
Pro.  Because of the nature of the application, once it is booted up 
the only disk activity is occasional logging when there is a problem 
with the connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be getting 
other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge products that 
are more expensive but some include speakers.  Development specs are 
available for the soundbridge along with source for gpl'd code included 
with the netflix box.  Not sure about development on the netflix box, 
though.  Might be worth $99 just to take it apart and see what's in there.


This would be more interesting for the playback end (no audio input 
capability is visible) if this were a one-time project, but we will 
probably have to supply more pairs in the future, so a more stable platform 
is more interesting.  Price is certainly right, but unlikely to hold, as 
they are charging $200 for their SoundBridge.


Ted Miller
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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Ted Miller

fred smith wrote:

On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 12:15:05AM -0500, Ted Miller wrote:

Joseph L. Casale wrote:
I have a project that I need some hardware pointers for.  I need to build 
some Centos appliances (dedicated boxes to do one thing only).  Target 
cost is under $250/box.

Given the rest of the requirements, I would say something like:
http://www.mini-box.com/M200-LCD-Enclosure
By the time I fully configure the box it is slightly over my target price, 
but given the user interaction on the front panel, I think I can live with 
that.


Have you used this box, or others from mini-box?


How about something like the Asus eeebox?


Looks like it would work, but for my purposes it looks like the mini-box 
units fit better, and at a lower price.


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Re: [CentOS] only backup selected files

2008-11-09 Thread chloe K
Thank you.
   
  How about untar? 
  I am using -T 
  tar cvf file.tar -T file.txt
   
  inside file.txt, 
  eg:
  /var/www/html/version/abc.html
  /var/www/html/version/image/abc.jpg
   
  how can I untar those files into /var/www/html instead of 
/var/www/html/version
   
  Thank you again

Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

chloe K wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have number of selected files to backup and it is also in different 
 folders
 
 How can I make it easy?
 
 
 eg:
 
 tar zcvf select-file.tar.gz from selected file or tar zcvf 
 select-file.tar.gz (from selected files in file.txt)?
 
 Thank you for your help
I'm sure there will be other ideas but in the absence of an include 
these files file option, you could employ a simple loop to append the 
files in a list to a tar archive. For example, if you had a file named 
include with these 3 records

/bin/gawk
/etc/fstab
/etc/resolv.conf

This would cause the 3 files to be archived as included.tar.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ while read inc ; do echo including: $inc ; tar -v -r 
$inc -f included.tar ; done  include

Just to be sure


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar -tvf included.tar
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 320416 2007-03-14 09:48:15 bin/gawk
-rw-r--r-- root/root 874 2008-09-23 09:53:40 etc/fstab
-rw-r--r-- root/root 135 2008-08-21 21:18:43 etc/resolv.conf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 


The real challenge here is to compile the include file correctly.
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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-09 Thread Dag Wieers

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, jarmo wrote:


Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
Centos, rhel, fedora?
Nice piece of commandline tools.


I tried, but hwinfo is very SuSE specific.

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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Ted Miller

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality 
audio across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No 
Internet exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and 
the encoding box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software 
to run will probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will 
be using USB audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio 
Fast Track Pro.  Because of the nature of the application, once it 
is booted up the only disk activity is occasional logging when there 
is a problem with the connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be 
getting other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge 
products that are more expensive but some include speakers.  
Development specs are available for the soundbridge along with source 
for gpl'd code included with the netflix box.  Not sure about 
development on the netflix box, though.  Might be worth $99 just to 
take it apart and see what's in there.


This would be more interesting for the playback end (no audio input 
capability is visible) if this were a one-time project, but we will 
probably have to supply more pairs in the future, so a more stable 
platform is more interesting.  Price is certainly right, but unlikely 
to hold, as they are charging $200 for their SoundBridge.


The netflix box is new hardware - and there doesn't seem to be much 
reason for promotional pricing.  They claim that they will release an 
SDK soon for anyone who wants to generate their own channel (but not 
opensource the box itself).  But as long as you can send some 
standard-protocol stream, why worry about matching the hardware?


According to their FAQ the only standard-protocol stream it understands 
is Windows Media formatted files from Netflix content servers, and 
according to the manual they are using Macrovision DRM software to control 
access.  That kind of approach is not compatible with the project I am 
working on.  We will encode with MP3, Ogg, or FLAC among other possibilities.



A sip speakerphone might even work as an endpoint.


This is not to play background music at somebody's desk.  This application 
literally puts a company out of business any time it is not working.  It 
has to recover automatically and immediately following the removal of every 
possible problem that would interrupt the audio stream.  It will eventually 
be equipped with a USB drive full of MP3 material so be a temporary 
substitute in case the main audio source is lost.  Once I go to the work to 
get it right, I don't have the time to go back and rework it every time a 
consumer-type platform does a revision.  I want something that I can get 
working and know that six months from now, when I get a request for another 
system, I can order the hardware, program it up, and send it out the door.



Here's an interview with the roku CEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z3zUCiELcI


At the moment Firefox doesn't feel like playing any Flash, so I can't see this.


The chumby is probably more hackable, but it already plays network streams.


Same problems with persistence in the face of obstacles.  My guess is that 
if the stream ends the Chumby is quite content to sit there silently.


Ted Miller
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Re: [CentOS] Appliance platform

2008-11-09 Thread Ted Miller

Les Mikesell wrote:

Les Mikesell wrote:

Ted Miller wrote:


Application (in case anyone cares): Move better-than-FM quality audio 
across a leased audio circuit with delay under 10 seconds.  No 
Internet exposure.  Obviously one box is required at each end, and 
the encoding box works much harder than the decoding box.  Software 
to run will probably be Ices - Icecast - network - mplayer.  Will 
be using USB audio interfaces, probably something like the M-Audio 
Fast Track Pro.  Because of the nature of the application, once it is 
booted up the only disk activity is occasional logging when there is 
a problem with the connection.


Any advice, web links, battle scars, or advice gladly accepted.


Not quite a match, but maybe worth investigating the hackability: the 
$99 Roku box sold initially to stream Netflix but supposed to be 
getting other capabilities.  Or for just audio, their soundbridge 
products that are more expensive but some include speakers.  
Development specs are available for the soundbridge along with source 
for gpl'd code included with the netflix box.  Not sure about 
development on the netflix box, though.  Might be worth $99 just to 
take it apart and see what's in there.




Or this: perhaps a little too cutesy, but... http://www.chumby.com/


Cute little thing.  Would probably work, but I have my doubts whether it 
would come back to life after a power failure, persistently retry an 
interrupted connection, etc, and with an ARM inside, I have no idea how 
hackable it would be.  An interesting hardware platform, if it is programmable.

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Re: [CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-09 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:30 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 I need to add a drive with the same LVM labels (i.e. system) to a
 machine with a drive with the same label. How can I access the data on
 both drive's LVM partitions at the same time?

You can't. Use vgrename on one of them.

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[CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-09 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all,

I need to add a drive with the same LVM labels (i.e. system) to a
machine with a drive with the same label. How can I access the data on
both drive's LVM partitions at the same time?

-- 

Kind Regards
Rudi Ahlers
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