Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS

2008-11-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Steve Tindall wrote:
 When looking for a reference to post in response to a question, I often
 find it hard to locate questions in the FAQs that I know exist, but
 sometimes that's because of the web vs. wiki FAQs issue (i.e., I'm
 looking in the wrong one).

The problem with the FAQs on the web site is, that only a small amount
of people can edit there - and those are the people who tend to have not
enough time as it is at the moment. That's why the FAQs on the wiki are
more current. On the other hand you can add comments to the FAQs on the
web site which isn't that easy to do with the wiki. I tested some
comment plugin for moin on wiki-m.centos.org, but that has one major
drawback: It works fine for normal article pages (so maybe we should
incorporate it into the wiki), but you cannot have more than one
instance of that plugin per page. Tat means that you can only add
comments to the complete FAQ section, not to single questions on that
FAQ.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS

2008-11-10 Thread Ned Slider

Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Steve Tindall wrote:

When looking for a reference to post in response to a question, I often
find it hard to locate questions in the FAQs that I know exist, but
sometimes that's because of the web vs. wiki FAQs issue (i.e., I'm
looking in the wrong one).


The problem with the FAQs on the web site is, that only a small amount
of people can edit there - and those are the people who tend to have not
enough time as it is at the moment. 


The more I think about this, and in relation to the whole WebSite2 
vision, I'm wondering if a simple static page at www.centos.org is all 
that may be needed combined with wiki.centos.org for content/docs etc, 
forums.centos.org, MLs and IRC for support, and projects.centos.org/trac 
for the other stuff. At least with a simple static front page that say 
what the project is all about and links to the important areas it's not 
something that needs updating and thus isn't a burden on those who can 
least afford the time plus then the Wiki editorial group could take on 
much of the rest hopefully freeing up the core devs to do what only they 
can do. The Wiki could host much of the content that's currently on 
www.centos.org.


Don't shoot me... just thinking out loud :D

I'd be interested to hear opinion from Karanbir, Dag and others who've 
been active in this area recently.



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Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh

Dag Wieers wrote:

You need a RHN entitlement. So that's hardly pushing.

Look at it from some other angels.

 - It shows people we are helping to give back to upstream (and not just 
reaping)

 - It encourages people to help CentOS as well
 - It shows Red Hat we are willing to help with Beta-testing

even when a RHN entitlement is required, showing that we care about this 
sends a message. And I don't see a big problem with having this on the 
Download page. It clearly says test-driving, beta's, I put it at the end 
of the page.


I think this is different than test repositories where it is much easier 
to make a mistake on an existing production system.


I think you are missing the point completely. Pushing the beta's at 
someone who comes to look for CentOS as the distro is wrong. they are 
not there looking to help the project or to do a survey on what centos 
feeds upstream, they are there to get the distro, and do whatever they 
want with it.


btw, upstream seemed quite firm on not doing so ( my impression again 
) when the same issue was quite hotly contested as a sub-issue in the 
fedora-devel conversation about wikipedia's move to ubuntu and 
implications / fallouts from that.


Did they discuss the availability of RHEL Betas during that conversation ?


based on the emails that made it to centos-devel; yes.


BTW My original change did contain a comment on what I just added.


but lots of other commits dont have comments at all. making it quite 
hard to work out what the changes are. I guess the only way to do that 
is to take a large number of commits, and diff the changes between them.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS

2008-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh

Ned Slider wrote:
The more I think about this, and in relation to the whole WebSite2 
vision, I'm wondering if a simple static page at www.centos.org is all 
that may be needed combined with wiki.centos.org for content/docs etc, 
forums.centos.org, MLs and IRC for support, and projects.centos.org/trac 
for the other stuff. 


as has been repeatedly pointed out on this list and other places, that 
is not going to happen unless there are certain benchmarks met. I dont 
see any effort towards that at the moment, so no - that wont be 
happening anytime soon.


i'd be happy to work with any group of people who want to setup and run 
a documentation sub-sig that address's the issues of content navigation 
and content management from both sides : (1) the project and (2) the 
distro. Both of which are very different from each other.


At least with a simple static front page that say 
what the project is all about and links to the important areas it's not 
something that needs updating and thus isn't a burden on those who can 
least afford the time plus then the Wiki editorial group could take on 
much of the rest hopefully freeing up the core devs to do what only they 
can do. The Wiki could host much of the content that's currently on 
www.centos.org.


Actually no. the wiki is incapable of hosting more than 15% or so of the 
content in www.centos.org - but if you think that more can be moved 
over, I'd like to hear how you worked that out :D


- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] What's an Enterprise class OS

2008-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh

Replying to myself, since this last line was perhaps not very clear...

Karanbir Singh wrote:

(3) Do nothing.  Maintaining the web site is not important.

I'm sure no one would agree (3) is a solution.  But if we do not come
up with viable solutions and start actively working on it, we would
end up with (3).


Isnt (2.9) where we are now ?



I meant - isnt getting close to (3) what so many people seem to be 
proposing at this time.


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Re: [CentOS-es] No puedo crear grupos de correo

2008-11-10 Thread FRANCISCO VALVERDE
EL CORREO COMO SERVIDOR ES LO DE MENOS NO ENTIENDO QUE QUIERES HACER
PUNTUALMENTE PORQUE SI ES PARA EL ENVIO DE CORREOS MASIVOS TE ENVI EL
SIGUIENTE DETALLE:


   1.

   Lo primero será generar un fichero en el sistema el cual tendrá como
   contenido una lista de los usuarios del sistema a los cuales se quiere
   enviar un mensaje. Este puede localizarse en cualquier lograr del sistema,
   como por ejemplo /etc/mail/allusers. Puede editarse el fichero
   /etc/mail/allusers y añadir individualmente cada usuario que se desee
   conforme esa lista o bien, si se quiere añadir a todos los usuarios del
   sistema, ejecutar lo siguiente:
  awk -F: '$3  500 { print $1 }' /etc/passwd  /etc/mail/allusers
   2.

   A continuación, debe editarse el fichero /etc/aliases y añadir al final
   del mismo:
  allusers: :include:/etc/mail/allusers
   3.

   Al terminar solo debe ejecutarse el mandato newaliases o bien reiniciar
   el servicio de Sendmail (el guión de inicio se encarga de hacer todo lo
   necesario).
   4.

   Para probar, solo bastará enviar un mensaje de correo electrónico a la
   cuenta allusers del servidor.

ATTE

FRANCISCO VALVERDE

ADMINISTRADOR NETWORKING UCE
2008/11/10 Wilder Deza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lo puedes hacer con el qmail.

 * *

 Saludos,




 FRANCISCO VALVERDE escribió:

 para crear grupos debes estar como root

 groupadd personal
 groupadd tutores

 para cada usuario debes crearlo de la siguiente manera:

 porejemplo:

 usuario pedro robles: useradd -m -g personal probles (si es para personal)
   useradd -m -g tutores probles (si es
 para tutores)

 para visualizar los usuarios con ls -l piedes ver los usuarios y sus
 grupos

 atte

 Francisco Valverde
 Administrador Networking Universidad Central del Ecuador

 2008/11/10 Richard Lazo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Estimados, estoy iniciandome en linux con la version de CentOs 5,
en mi trabajo lo utilizan como servidor de correos ya tengo los
usurios creados y estan trabajando normalmente, me han pedido
crear grupso de correo como por ejemplo: personal, tutores y
cuando le indiquen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] enviar a todos los usuarios que esten
en ese grupo.

Alguna sugerencia, he revisado pagianas de internet y me han dicho
como crear los grupos pero no los reconoce cuando enviolos correos.
Agradeceré la información

--Saludos
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Re: [CentOS-es] No puedo crear grupos de correo

2008-11-10 Thread O. T. Suarez
Hola:
 trabajo lo utilizan como servidor de correos ya tengo los usurios creados y
 estan trabajando normalmente, me han pedido crear grupso de correo como por
 ejemplo: personal, tutores y cuando le indiquen [EMAIL PROTECTED] enviar a
 todos los usuarios que esten en ese grupo.
 Alguna sugerencia, he revisado pagianas de internet y me han dicho como
 crear los grupos pero no los reconoce cuando enviolos correos.
primero que nada, avisa que MTA (servidor de correo) estas utilizando.
Eso que necesitas se puede hacer con aliases (que depende de si
utilizas sendmail, postfix, qmail.. seria como lo implementarias) o
puedes decidirte por un gestor de listas de correo como el mailman.
Tiene la ventaja de que lo puedes administrar con una interface web,
tiene la desventaja de que seria un poco grande para lo que te estan
pidiendo pues ofrece mucho mas de lo que ahora necesitas, pero no
seria una mala opcion, vas practicando y te preparas para el futuro.
Saludos
Osvaldo
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[CentOS-es] Oracle 10 Exprres Edition

2008-11-10 Thread Rene Chirivi
Buenas noches estoy tratando de instalar esta version de oracle en mi servidor 
centos 5, Aparentemente instala bien ya que me pide los puertos de 
configuracion y qeu me dice que la instalacion finalizo con extio, pero al 
tratar de ingresar via web a http:127.0.0.1:8080/apex el navegador me muetra un 
error diciendome que no se puede conectar. Abri los puertos 8080 y 1525 por 
medio de firestarter pero tampoco me dejo ingresar.

Agradezco la colaboracion que me puedan prestar



  

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Re: [CentOS-es] Oracle 10 Exprres Edition

2008-11-10 Thread Santi Saez

Rene Chirivi escribió:

Buenas noches estoy tratando de instalar esta version de oracle en mi servidor 
centos 5, Aparentemente instala bien ya que me pide los puertos de 
configuracion y qeu me dice que la instalacion finalizo con extio, pero al 
tratar de ingresar via web a http:127.0.0.1:8080/apex el navegador me muetra un 
error diciendome que no se puede conectar. Abri los puertos 8080 y 1525 por 
medio de firestarter pero tampoco me dejo ingresar.

Agradezco la colaboracion que me puedan prestar
  

Hola!

Por si acaso.. la dirección correcta sería: http://127.0.0.1/apex

Antes de volverte loco, comprueba que realmente Oracle XE está 
escuchando en ese puerto con un netstat -punta | grep LISTEN, por 
ejemplo..


¿La máquina donde está instalado Oracle es la misma desde la que te 
estás conectado? Si no es imposible que te conectes por la dirección 
127.0.0.1..


Saludos!

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Re: [CentOS] cant boot after installation of centos 5

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Schaffner

Muhammad Alif Mohd Latif wrote:

Hi all,
 
I'm having problems with the installation of CentOS 5 for i386 to my 
Dell Percision T4500 Workstation.


5? 5.1? 5.2?

The installation run just fine. The installation DVD had been tested 
before installation. After installation, the installer ask me to reboot. 
after reboot, when the msg for LVM saying detection of my LVMs, 1 or 2 
lines after that my monitor turned off, but i believed the cpu is still 
running. I tried reboot several times but still got same problem. Can 
some one help me?


Not much to go on.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Since you say Workstation one might presume that you are running in 
GUI mode.  Have you tried booting to runlevel 1 or 3?  Turning off 
quiet mode?  Might see some useful hints.


In GRUB type a to append/edit the kernel boot line.  Delete rhgb 
quiet and replace it with 1 or single for single-user mode, or 3 
for full network boot without GUI.  See if anything enlightening shows up.


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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Schaffner

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 10 November 2008 00:24:05 Dag Wieers wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, jarmo wrote:

Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
Centos, rhel, fedora?
Nice piece of commandline tools.

I tried, but hwinfo is very SuSE specific.


Dag, I used hwinfo years ago on Mandrake/Mandriva systems.  Maybe something 
helpful there?


I agree with jarmo - it's an excellent tool


This SRPM builds/runs on CentOS 5.2.

http://oss.oracle.com/projects/yast/dist/files/el5/src/hwinfo-13.57-2.src.rpm

BuildRequires:  doxygen flex hal-devel perl-XML-Parser perl-XML-Writer udev

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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread jarmo
Anne Wilson kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 10. marraskuuta 
2008):
 On Monday 10 November 2008 00:24:05 Dag Wieers wrote:
  On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, jarmo wrote:
   Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
   Centos, rhel, fedora?
   Nice piece of commandline tools.
 
  I tried, but hwinfo is very SuSE specific.

 Dag, I used hwinfo years ago on Mandrake/Mandriva systems.  Maybe something
 helpful there?

 I agree with jarmo - it's an excellent tool

 Anne

I tried MDV packet, but there is some depencies what didn' match
even I have required libaries installed, but ofcourse wrong serial.
As well as connectivas package, didn't get SuSe's yet, but bet
there's maybe other depencies required than tose other distro's.

Original Hwinfo is made for Debian based systems, I think.

Jarmo
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Re: [CentOS] can I use 2 HDD's with the same LVM labels at the same time?

2008-11-10 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:51 -0800, nate wrote:
 Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 
  Basically, most HDD's are setup the same, but I want to add another
  HDD to the same server, and use data on both HDD's.
 
  So, do I rename System with vgrename then?
 
 If your wanting to add a new disk to the same volume
 group and use it then no you don't need to rename
 anything, you can use the vgextend command after
 running pvcreate on the new disk to extend the
 existing volume group to the new disk.
 
 If your wanting to add an existing disk to a system
 that already has a conflicting volume group name in
 it, then yes you'll need to vgrename one of them so
 they do not conflict.

Hmmm. I've not seen vgexport/vgimport mentioned. Will this be needed?
I'm not sure for this particular situation.

 
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RE: [CentOS] Hiding Files in Samba

2008-11-10 Thread John
Vandaman Wrote:
hide files = /~*/

johnStanley Write:

Did not think of the hide files option untill someone mentioned it earlier.

So to be correct you are using samba to share out Win Shares right?

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Re: [CentOS] [SOLVED] Problem with widescreen display

2008-11-10 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 00:20 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Saturday 01 November 2008 22:08, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
  Basically, what I did was to run system-config-display to reconfigure for
  the new monitor and resolution. All goes well, but after X restarts, I see
  a strange picture: the resolution indeed goes to 1680x1050 as is supposed
  to, but is squeezed/shrinked/scaled horizontally to match a 4:3 aspect
  ratio, leaving two (unequal) black bands on the left and right side of the
  monitor.
 [snip]
  The very same hardware and virtually same X configuration work perfectly ok
  on FC4
 [snip]
 
 Ok, just for the record, I resolved the issue, in the following way:
 
 - took the exact modeline parameters for 1680x1050 (known to work) from FC4's 
 Xorg.0.log and copy-pasted it into CentOS's xorg.conf
 - also took the DisplaySize, HorizSync and VertRefresh parameters from the 
 Fedora's log and put it into xorg.conf
 - Disabled the DDC (undocumented option!!!)   - CRUCIAL  PART !!!
 - took the modeline parameters for various other resolutions since without 
 DDC 
 nothing gets autoconfigured
 - restarted X
 
 Now everything works perfectly, and my hacked xorg.conf is just the default 
 one with the following Monitor section:
 
 Section Monitor
   Identifier  Monitor0
   ModelName   LCD Panel 1680x1050
 # hacked DisplaySize --- note that the values are *wrong*,
 # monitor is actually 470x300 mm
   DisplaySize 370 280
   HorizSync   31.5 - 90.0
   VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
   Option  dpms
 # turned off the DDC; didn't know which option would do
 # the job so put them both there
   Option  NoDDC true
   Option  DDC false
 # various modelines, taken from Fedora's log:
   Modeline 1680x1050  147.14  1680 1784 1968 2256  1050 1051 1054 1087 
 -hsync 
 +vsync
   Modeline 1400x1050  122.00  1400 1488 1640 1880  1050 1052 1064 1082 
 +hsync 
 +vsync
   Modeline 800x600   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync 
 +vsync
   Modeline 640x480   25.20  640 656 752 800  480 490 492 525 -hsync 
 -vsync
 EndSection
 
 Hopefully someone with a similar problem maybe finds this useful. ;-)

Well, I think its utility is such that it ought to be in the wiki hints.
If you have time and interest, why don't you ask the folks for access
and location in the wiki? Adding a little commentary about the meaning
of the values would make it useful to similar, but slightly different,
setups as well.

Glad you fingered it out.

 
 Best, :-)
 Marko
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:06 AM, partha chowdhury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
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 01   /dev/hda1  ntfs   Active
 02   /dev/hda2 ext3  (/boot)
 03   /dev/hda3 unknown  (CentOS LVM)

 AFAIK,in centos or fedora a boot partition cannot reside in an LVM volume.a
 boot partition must be a regular ext2 or ext3 file system.

Yes. There's a separate ext3 partition, /boot, with 102 MB, that's
/dev/hda2  and it isn't in an LVM.

Problem now, as I just replied to Vandaman, is that my CentOS 5
Installation DVD got damaged, after I reinstalled GRUB and before I
could modify two configuration files. I have several Live CDs, but
don't know how to get real root privileges with them.

Sorry for delay in my reply. Our ADSL was down.
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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Dag Wieers

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Anne Wilson wrote:


On Monday 10 November 2008 00:24:05 Dag Wieers wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, jarmo wrote:

Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
Centos, rhel, fedora?
Nice piece of commandline tools.


I tried, but hwinfo is very SuSE specific.


Dag, I used hwinfo years ago on Mandrake/Mandriva systems.  Maybe something
helpful there?


Hmm, then I am probably confusing it with some other tool I tried to 
package coming from SuSE. I do have a SPEC file on my buildsystem, but it 
does not work. I will investigate when I find the time.


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RE: [CentOS] Parallel/Shared/Distributed Filesystems

2008-11-10 Thread Geoff Galitz


Geoff Galitz
Blankenheim NRW, Deutschland
http://www.galitz.org


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of nate
Sent: Montag, 10. November 2008 16:32
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Parallel/Shared/Distributed Filesystems

If you really want GFS then I would look into running NFS over
GFS with a high availability NFS cluster. Red Hat wrote this
useful doc on how to deploy such a system:


The main issue is that we feel that our current solution (Linux NFS Clients
- NetApp) is not sufficient.  Our team comes from a Solaris background (my
colleague) and an HPC background (me) and are worried about running into
scalability issues as our infrastructure grows and the internal network
becomes busier and busier.  We've already been wrestling with issues such as
broken mountpoints, stale mounts and unrecoverable hangs.  Fortunately those
issues have all been resolved for now, but as we continue to grow we may see
them recur.  Consider all that as background.

The NetApp is running out of space and we prefer to not replace it with
another one, if possible.  To that end we are exploring our options.

I played around with iSCSI, Multipath and NFS and have found that works
quite well so far.  Queuing data for delivery when a node become unavailable
using multipath would be sufficient for our needs.  Our internal monitoring
systems can take action if a server becomes unavailable and the data can be
queued up long enough for any recovery actions to complete (apart from the
next big earthquake).  We do not necessarily require a more traditionak
redundant storage system (such as an NFS cluster with dedicated NFS server
nodes)... but we are not ruling that out, either.


Just all food for thought.

-geoff




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Vandaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is a Permissions problem, when I try to access
 /boot/grub/grub.conf and /etc/fstab so I can edit them. How
 can I do
 that, using the Live CD's I have? I need root access.

 Instead of using a LIVECD, have you tried using the CentOS
 rescue CD and then using the grub command. I don't have Centos 5
 but you can look at the CentOS docs or a quick Fedora example below.

 http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/158-System-Recovery-Week-Rescue-Mode-and-Reinstalling-Grub.html

Initially, I was able to boot the CentOS 5 Installation DVD and that
is how I reinstalled GRUB, using linux rescue, after the
reinstallation of MS Windows on this dual boot box. Somehow, the
CentOS 5 Installation DVD got damaged, as I tried to resolve this
problem, so now I am limited to the Live CDs I have and since I am
very limited in my knowledge of Linux, I don't know how to get real
root privileges,  while using the Live CDs.

Seems like I need to solve  two (2) problems, in order to get GRUB
working properly again on this dual boot box and be able to boot into
Linux again: (a) Get real root access, while using Live CD's (b)
Modify one or two configuration files (/etc/fstab and
/boot/grub/grub.conf) to reflect the fact that now there is only one
partition for Windows, where previously there were four Windows
partitions.

Question: You mentioned the CentOS rescue CD. Is there something
else, other than the CentOS 5 Installation DVD I have, which is
damaged? Our DSL is very slow (550) so it would take me a long time to
try to download that.

Note: Sorry for my delay in replying to you. Our ADSL went down
yesterday and the phone company just fixed their problem. TIA.
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Re: [CentOS] HA Storage Cookbook?

2008-11-10 Thread Jed Reynolds

Les Mikesell wrote:
But, I think the OP's real problem is that everything is tied to one 
single large drive (i.e. the software mirroring is mostly irrelevant as

...

I think that Les makes a good point, and I'd like to push the point even 
more generally: providing network file storage, via SAN or NFS is that 
when you have a single service instance, you need procedures and/or 
layers of caching to deal with outages.


I've been using a DRBD cluster joined by a bonded GigE switch and it 
replicates quite quickly. My issues have been related to Heartbeat and 
monitoring. We've learned it's very important to practice and tune the 
fail-over process and detect on file system performance rather than 
merely pinging. Also, it's necessary to monitor application performance 
to see if your storage nodes are suffering load issues. I've seen a 
two-core nfs server perform reliably under load 6-7 but it starts to get 
unhappy at any higher load.


Ironically, we've had absolutely no hard drive errors yet. Hardware 
things that come to mind are: mother boards: I've had more mother board 
and ram failures than drive failures with the systems we've had. Raid 
cards: we've had to swap out 2 3Ware raid controllers also.


Network failures will get you down if you're looking for uptime as well: 
we recently had a nic in one of our storage nodes get into a state where 
it was spouting 60Mbit of bad packets and created quite a layer-2 
networking issue for two cabinets of web servers and two ldap servers. 
When the ldap servers couldn't respond, the access to the storage nodes 
got even worse. It was a black day.


The next thing in our setup has to do with reliance of NFS. NFS may not 
the best choice to put behind web-servers, but it was quickest. We're 
adjusting our application to caching the data found on NFS nodes on 
local file-systems so that we can handle an NFS outage.


My take is: if you're a competent Linux admin, DRBD will cost you less 
with by using appropriate servers be more maintainable than an 
appliance. The challenge of course is working out how to reduce response 
time when any hardware goes sour.



Good luck

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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Schaffner

Lanny Marcus wrote:
[snip]

I have several Live CDs, but
don't know how to get real root privileges with them.


Often su - in a terminal window is all that's required to get root for 
a live CD.


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Re: [CentOS] Parallel/Shared/Distributed Filesystems

2008-11-10 Thread nate
Geoff Galitz wrote:



 I'm looking at using GFS for parallel access to shared storage, most likely
 an iSCSI resource.  It will most likely work just fine but I am curious if
 folks are using anything with fewer system requisites (e.g. installing and
 configuring the Cluster Suite).

Export the iSCSI resource to a box and re-export it over NFS
would be quite a bit simpler, sounds like your JPG needs are
very basic, GFS sounds overkill.

Note that iSCSI isn't very fast at all, if your array supports
fiber channel I'd highly recommend that connectivity to the
NFS servers over iSCSI any day. If your only choice is iSCSI then
I suggest looking into hardware HBAs, and certainly run jumbo
frames for the iSCSI links, use dedicated network connections for
the iSCSI network. And if you want even higher performance use
dedicated links for the NFS serving as well also with jumbo frames.

If you really want GFS then I would look into running NFS over
GFS with a high availability NFS cluster. Red Hat wrote this
useful doc on how to deploy such a system:

http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/doc/nfscookbook.pdf

My company does something similar, that is we process terrabytes
of data every day for our application, amongst a good 150 servers
or so, today we are using a 520-disk BlueArc-based NAS solution
that the company bought about 4 years ago, looking to replace it
with something else as the NAS portion will be end of lifed soon.

I absolutely would not trust any linux-based NFS or even GFS
over a well tested/supported solution myself for this kind of
requirement(most of the cost of the solution is the back end
disks anyways).

Though if the volume of data is small, and the I/O rates are
small as well you can get by just fine with a linux based
system.

If your using iSCSI your performance bottleneck will likely
be the iSCSI system itself anyways, rather than the linux
box(s).

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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 November 2008 00:24:05 Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, jarmo wrote:
  Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
  Centos, rhel, fedora?
  Nice piece of commandline tools.

 I tried, but hwinfo is very SuSE specific.

Dag, I used hwinfo years ago on Mandrake/Mandriva systems.  Maybe something 
helpful there?

I agree with jarmo - it's an excellent tool

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Parallel/Shared/Distributed Filesystems

2008-11-10 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia

Geoff Galitz wrote:



I'm looking at using GFS for parallel access to shared storage, most likely
an iSCSI resource.  It will most likely work just fine but I am curious if
folks are using anything with fewer system requisites (e.g. installing and
configuring the Cluster Suite).


Specifically to our case, we have 50 nodes running in-house code (some in
Java, some in C) which (among other things) receives JPGs, processes them
and stores them for later viewing.  We are looking to deploy this filesystem
specifically for this JPG storage component.

All nodes are running Centos 5.1 x86_64.


-geoff


Hi

Maybe you can consider pNFS, parallel NFS:
http://www.pnfs.com/

Regards

Marcelo

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RE: [CentOS] Parallel/Shared/Distributed Filesystems

2008-11-10 Thread nate
Geoff Galitz wrote:

 The NetApp is running out of space and we prefer to not replace it with
 another one, if possible.  To that end we are exploring our options.

NetApp, while it has a big name has the worst level of space
efficiency in the industry and it's performance isn't so hot
either. It does have some nice features though it depends on
your needs.

The solutions we are looking at here is a 3PAR T400-based back
end with a Exanet EX1500 cluster(2-node) front end, and a HDS
AMS2300-based back end with a BlueArc Titan 3100 cluster(2-node)
front end. Though I'm not at all satisfied with the scalability
of the AMS2300 the vendor is grasping at straws trying to justify
it's existence, the higher end AMS2500 would be more suitable
(still not scalable), though the vendor refuses to quote it
because it's not due till late this year/early next.

Both NAS front ends scale to 8 nodes(with Exanet claiming unlimited
nodes though 8 is their currently supported maximum). 8 nodes
is enough performance to drive 1,000 SATA disks or more. The
3PAR T400 back end has linear scalability to 1,152 SATA disks
(1.2PB), the AMS2300 goes up to 240 disks(248TB).

Both NAS front end clusters can each address a minimum of
500TB of storage(per pair) and support millions of files
per directory without a performance hit.

I talked with NetApp on a couple of occasions and finally nailed
down that their competitive solution would be their GX product
line but I don't think they can get the price to where the
competition is as they promised pricing 3 weeks ago and haven't
heard a peep since.

The idea is to be able to start small(in our case ~100TB usable),
and be able to grow much larger as the company needs within
a system that can automatically re-balance the I/O as the system
expands for maximum performance while keeping a price tag that
is within our budget. Our current 520-disk system is horribly
unbalanced and it's not possible to re-balance it without massive
downtime, the result is probably at least a 50% loss in performance
overall. Of course there are lots of other goals but that's
the biggie.

The 3PAR/Exanet solution can scale within a single system to
approx 630,000 SpecSFS IOPS on a single file system, the HDS/BlueArc
solution can scale to about 150,000 SpecSFS IOPS on a couple of
file systems. The 3PAR would have 4 controllers, Exanet would
have 8 controllers, HDS would have 2 controllers, BlueArc would
have 2 controllers at their peak. In both cases the performance
limit is the back end storage, not the front end units.

Of course nothing stops the NAS units from being able to address
storage beyond a single array but you lose the ability to effectively
balance the I/O across multiple storage systems in that event which
leads to the problem we have with our current system. Perhaps if
your willing to spend a couple million a HDS USP-based system
might be effective balancing across multiple systems with their
virtualized thingamabob. Our budget is a fraction of that though.

NetApp's (non-GX) limitations prevent it from competing in this
area effectively.(They do have some ability to re-balance but it
pales in comparison).

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[CentOS] cant boot after installation of centos 5

2008-11-10 Thread Muhammad Alif Mohd Latif
Hi all,

I'm having problems with the installation of CentOS 5 for i386 to my Dell
Percision T4500 Workstation.
The installation run just fine. The installation DVD had been tested before
installation. After installation, the installer ask me to reboot. after
reboot, when the msg for LVM saying detection of my LVMs, 1 or 2 lines after
that my monitor turned off, but i believed the cpu is still running. I tried
reboot several times but still got same problem. Can some one help me?

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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Vandaman
Dag Wieers wrote:

 Hmm, then I am probably confusing it with some other tool I
 tried to package coming from SuSE. I do have a SPEC file on
 my buildsystem, but it does not work. I will investigate
 when I find the time.
 

Hwinfo is SUSE specific. 

Debian page says :-

Debian -- Details of package hwinfo in sid
hwinfo is the hardware detection tool used in SuSE Linux. 
In Debian Edu ( Skolelinux) hwinfo has shown better results 
than discover when detecting mouse, ..

The Mandriva spec file lists :-
Add debian patch to get it build in non-suse distro

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Anne Wilson wrote on Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:51:16 +:

  /root/.bashrc
 
 That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

That was already told very early on, but you didn't notice it!

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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Phil Schaffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I have several Live CDs, but
 don't know how to get real root privileges with them.

 Often su - in a terminal window is all that's required to get root for a
 live CD.

Phil: I think I tried that, Saturday afternoon, but I will try it
again, after my daughter gets home. As I recall, that did not get me
into the true root environment, but into root for the Live CD.  I
will try it again, with each of the 3 Live CD's, and report back to
the list. When I tried to edit one of the configuration files I need
to edit, it was a different configuration file, provided by the Live
CD.   Thanks! Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 November 2008 19:31:21 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote on Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:51:16 +:
   /root/.bashrc
 
  That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

 That was already told very early on, but you didn't notice it!

Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look in 
~/.bashrc.

Still, the important thing is that I now know where to look.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote


Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look in
~/.bashrc.


If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote

  Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
  in ~/.bashrc.

 If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.

I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 November 2008 19:56:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
  On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote
 
   Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
   in ~/.bashrc.
 
  If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.

 I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.

I guess that the OP thought I was when he said that, though

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Re: [CentOS] Autodetecing RAID members upon boot... need to update initrd?

2008-11-10 Thread nate
Tim Nelson wrote:

 If my assumptions are correct, the onboard drives are detected first, then
 the arrays assembled, and after the system has passed control from the
 initrd to boot, THEN the addon controller is detected and hence the third
 drive (sdc). If I am correct, then I need to update my initrd for the system
 to see and use that third drive during the boot process. Can anyone lend a
 few tips or pointers on how to proceed? I essentially need the sata_sil
 driver to be included in the initrd.


Check the man page for mkinitrd, it's pretty self explanatory. I suggest
you back up the existing initrd first, just in case there's a problem.

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[CentOS] Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.   

I wonder if a simple rsync script would work. If so, here's what I'm thinking:

1) updates are available so I execute the rsync script which pulls any updated 
files from my laptop to a backup server/drive

2) apply updates

3) if something breaks (even if I can no longer login) I boot the laptop, run 
the rsync script in the opposite direction (push files from the backup drive 
to the laptop) 

I assume that if I were to execute step 3 above that my system would be in the 
exact state that it was before I ran the updates. Is this a correct 
assumption ?  Are there better approaches ?


Thanks in advance..

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 20:11 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 10 November 2008 19:56:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
   On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote
  
Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
in ~/.bashrc.
  
   If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.
 
  I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.
 
 I guess that the OP thought I was when he said that, though

Helped by circumstances. _Normally_, the default install has those
aliases only assigned for root, due to the great risk to the system.

So it would be a natural assumption. As usual assume has its risks.

 
 Anne
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[CentOS] Autodetecing RAID members upon boot... need to update initrd?

2008-11-10 Thread Tim Nelson
Hello fellow CentOS'ers-

I've got a system running CentOS 5.0. The motherboard has two onboard SATA 
ports with two drives attached. I installed the system on a RAID1 setup. 
However, I'd like to add a hotspare disk to the array. Since there are no 
additional SATA ports, I've installed an additional controller. After 
partitioning, the additional drive was easily and successfully added to the 
existing array as a spare. However, the problem is when the system boots. The 
hotspare disk is never detected and added to the array. I believe it could be 
due to the driver for the addon card not being in the initrd?

If I run 'fdisk -l', I see this:

---BEGIN---
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1  13  104391   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda2  14 523 4096575   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda3 524   60801   484183035   fd  Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *   1  13  104391   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb2  14 523 4096575   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb3 524   60801   484183035   fd  Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/md2: 495.8 GB, 495803301888 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 121045728 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8 * 512 = 4096 bytes

Disk /dev/md2 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/md1: 12.5 GB, 12584288256 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 3072336 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8 * 512 = 4096 bytes

Disk /dev/md1 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/md0: 106 MB, 106823680 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 26080 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8 * 512 = 4096 bytes

Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   *   1  13  104391   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdc2  14 523 4096575   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdc3 524   60801   484183035   fd  Linux raid autodetect
---END---

If my assumptions are correct, the onboard drives are detected first, then the 
arrays assembled, and after the system has passed control from the initrd to 
boot, THEN the addon controller is detected and hence the third drive (sdc). If 
I am correct, then I need to update my initrd for the system to see and use 
that third drive during the boot process. Can anyone lend a few tips or 
pointers on how to proceed? I essentially need the sata_sil driver to be 
included in the initrd.

All tips welcome. Thank you!

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
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[CentOS] Running From Live DVD Keeping Settings Between Boots

2008-11-10 Thread Brent L. Bates
 Someone posted how to use a memory card (USB or another kind) to save
settings between boots of a Live CD/DVD.  I believe it was posted not too long
ago and I thought I had kept the email, but now that I'm looking for the
information, I can not find it.  I've done some searching and I either get way
too many hits or way too few, none of which are what I'm looking for.  Does
anyone remember that post and can forward that message to me?  Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

2008-11-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 10 November 2008 20:30:13 William L. Maltby wrote:

 Helped by circumstances. _Normally_, the default install has those
 aliases only assigned for root, due to the great risk to the system.

 So it would be a natural assumption. As usual assume has its risks.

Well, it might have been painful at the time, dealing with this and with the 
damage on the box after the kernel bug at the same time, but I've learned a 
good deal, thanks to the patient answers to my questions.  Every cloud has a 
silver lining :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Autodetecing RAID members upon boot... need to update initrd?

2008-11-10 Thread Tim Nelson
I wanted to MaKe and INITRD and you sent me to check out MKINITRD. How 
thoughtful... :-)

Kidding aside, I appreciate the suggestion. I checked it out and simply ran a 
'mkinitrd --with=sata_sil /path/to/newinitrd kernel' and rebooted. When grub 
popped up, I edited the initrd line to reflect the new initrd. It worked like a 
charm. I've since updated the grub.conf permanently and everything works as 
expected when rebooted.

Thanks again for the pointers.

In the future, when upgrading the kernel, will future initrd's be built with my 
current modules or will I have to manually create new initrd's after each 
update? 

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105

- nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tim Nelson wrote:
 
  If my assumptions are correct, the onboard drives are detected
 first, then
  the arrays assembled, and after the system has passed control from
 the
  initrd to boot, THEN the addon controller is detected and hence the
 third
  drive (sdc). If I am correct, then I need to update my initrd for
 the system
  to see and use that third drive during the boot process. Can anyone
 lend a
  few tips or pointers on how to proceed? I essentially need the
 sata_sil
  driver to be included in the initrd.
 
 
 Check the man page for mkinitrd, it's pretty self explanatory. I
 suggest
 you back up the existing initrd first, just in case there's a
 problem.
 
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Phil Schaffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I have several Live CDs, but
 don't know how to get real root privileges with them.

 Often su - in a terminal window is all that's required to get root for a
 live CD.

Phil: I'm running on my CentOS 5.2 Live CD, in the belief that one is
better able to help me than the Knoppix or SystemRescue Live CDs (the
SystemRescue CD is very old).

On the GNOME Desktop, there's an Icon for Local Hard Drives. If I
double click on that, it shows hda2 which is the /boot  ext3 partition
(102 MB)

There is also an Icon for Local Logical Volumes. If I double click
on that, it shows VolGroup00-LogVol00  and everything is there, in the
LVM.   :-)

Here's the result of the mount command

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ mount
/dev/mapper/livecd-rw on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
/dev/hdc on /mnt/live type iso9660 (ro)
/dev/hda2 on /mnt/disc/hda2 type ext3 (ro)
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on /mnt/lvm/VolGroup00-LogVol00 type ext3 (ro)
sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Question: Is /hda3 mounted properly? I don't think so, because when I
try to boot Linux from the Grub menu on the HD, it gives me Error 17:
Cannot mount selected partition

Here's the contents of fstab (which I'm looking at Read Only)

/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /   ext3defaults1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot   ext3defaults1 2
devpts  /dev/ptsdevpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
tmpfs   /dev/shmtmpfs   defaults0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
sysfs   /syssysfs   defaults0 0
/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0
/dev/hda6   /mnt/win   ntfs-3g  rw,umask=,defaults 0 0

What I need to modify in fstab is the last line. I need to change it
from /dev/hda6 to /dev/hda1 so I can read/write NTFS files from
CentOS.

If I can get to the 2 configuration files  (fstab and grub.conf) with
true root access, so I can modify them, with Gedit  I should be able
to get this box working on Linux again.

Not sure of the proper locations to give for those files, so I can get
to them from a terminal window, after su -, with gedit.

These are the types of trivial problems which cause newbies
frustration. On the other hand, there have been times, when my wife
and daughter cannot do something on M$ Windows and they can do it on
Linux.   :-)This would be easier, I'm sure, if my CentOS 5
Installation DVD hadn't gotten damaged Saturday.

Your time, help and willingness to share your expertise are much
appreciated! Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Running From Live DVD Keeping Settings Between Boots

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Brent L. Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone posted how to use a memory card (USB or another kind) to save
 settings between boots of a Live CD/DVD.  I believe it was posted not too long
 ago and I thought I had kept the email, but now that I'm looking for the
 information, I can not find it.  I've done some searching and I either get way
 too many hits or way too few, none of which are what I'm looking for.  Does
 anyone remember that post and can forward that message to me?  Thanks.

I'm running on my CentOS 5.2 Live CD and I just looked at all the
GNOME menus. If that's something one can do from the menu, it's not
intuitively obvious. If you find out how to do this, please  post back
to the ML.
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - fstab and grub.conf errors?

2008-11-10 Thread MHR
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Here's the result of the mount command

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ mount
 /dev/mapper/livecd-rw on / type ext3 (rw,noatime)
 proc on /proc type proc (rw)
 sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
 devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
 tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
 none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
 /dev/hdc on /mnt/live type iso9660 (ro)
 /dev/hda2 on /mnt/disc/hda2 type ext3 (ro)
 /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on /mnt/lvm/VolGroup00-LogVol00 type ext3 (ro)
 sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

 Question: Is /hda3 mounted properly? I don't think so, because when I
 try to boot Linux from the Grub menu on the HD, it gives me Error 17:
 Cannot mount selected partition


When I had this error, it meant that grub could not find the boot
partition itself.  (The boot PROM did, but grub doesn't see the disks
the same way and can get lost.)

Someone just answered earlier in this thread that you need to change
your hd(0,2) to hd(0,1) on the grub boot line.  That should work.  You
don't need to do this from any special rescue boot, just boot the
system, and when the grub stage 2 boot selection shows with its
countdown, stop it (with the space bar) and use the grub shell to edit
that line and it _should_ boot properly.

If WCTW, instead of downloading the CentOS 5 DVD, just pull down the
first CD image and burn that.  It's a lot shorter than the whole DVD,
and it's all you need to get into rescue mode.

HTH

mhr
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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Vandaman
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 
 At the risk of repeating myself - it does build/run on
 CentOS 5.
 
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067612.html
 

That is not in dispute. I was responding to the claim
that Hwinfo is made for Debian based systems. Why would
debian add a patch to get it to build on none-suse systems
if its made for debian systems?

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/067613.html

Regards,
Vandaman.



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Re: [CentOS] Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Schaffner

Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi All;

I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.   


I wonder if a simple rsync script would work. If so, here's what I'm thinking:

1) updates are available so I execute the rsync script which pulls any updated 
files from my laptop to a backup server/drive


2) apply updates

3) if something breaks (even if I can no longer login) I boot the laptop, run 
the rsync script in the opposite direction (push files from the backup drive 
to the laptop) 

I assume that if I were to execute step 3 above that my system would be in the 
exact state that it was before I ran the updates. Is this a correct 
assumption ? 


Depends in part on the rsync commands, the file structure, and the order 
of operations.  Restoring over a running system would overwrite files 
that are in use, particularly in /etc and /var - not a good idea. 
Restoring from a backup of a live system would restore copies of files 
that might have been in the process of being changed.  Would be safer to 
do this using a live CD for both the backup and the restore.  Would want 
to do the backup/restore on a per-filesystem basis.  Assuming you have / 
/boot and /home:


rsync --archive --delete --hard-links --one-file-system / /backup/laptop/

rsync --archive --delete --hard-links --one-file-system /boot/ 
/backup/laptop/boot/


rsync --archive --delete --hard-links --one-file-system /home/ 
/backup/laptop/home/


On restore would need to mount and restore / first, then mount other 
partitions and restore them.



Are there better approaches ?


Perhaps using other backup tools (backuppc has been mentioned favorably 
recently), but it should be workable; however, this sounds like a 
time/labor-intensive approach every time there are updates, for a low 
probability of fatal problems with the OS.  Just backing up user files 
would be a lot faster and easier.


Phil

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Re: [CentOS] Running From Live DVD Keeping Settings Between Boots

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Schaffner

Brent L. Bates wrote:

 Someone posted how to use a memory card (USB or another kind) to save
settings between boots of a Live CD/DVD.  I believe it was posted not too long
ago and I thought I had kept the email, but now that I'm looking for the
information, I can not find it.  I've done some searching and I either get way
too many hits or way too few, none of which are what I'm looking for.  Does
anyone remember that post and can forward that message to me?  Thanks.


Unless I'm missing something, you must be remembering another distro. 
Had some discussions on this during 5.2 live CD testing with Patrice 
Guay who builds the CentOS live CDs.  Knoppix has a feature to save to 
USB, and Fedora 9 uses persistence to save changes from their live CD, 
but as of 5.2 CentOS livecd does not implement it.


Phil


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RE: [CentOS] Autodetecing RAID members upon boot... need to update initrd?

2008-11-10 Thread Joseph L. Casale
In the future, when upgrading the kernel, will future initrd's be built with 
my current modules or will I have to manually create new initrd's after each 
update? 

Good question that I would love to know as well. I thought 
/etc/sysconfig/mkinitrd handled
this, but not ripping apart the srpm of a new kernel, I don’t really know if it 
bothers doing
making the initrd.

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Re: [CentOS] Hwinfo

2008-11-10 Thread Matthew Kent
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 15:46 +0200, jarmo wrote:
 Has anyone info about package hwinfo for
 Centos, rhel, fedora?
 Nice piece of commandline tools.

Though not as verbose compared to hwinfo's output (on debian here) I've
found lshw (http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/lshw/) very useful.
-- 
Matthew Kent \ SA \ bravenet.com

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Re: [CentOS] Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Ned Slider

Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi All;

I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.   


I wonder if a simple rsync script would work. If so, here's what I'm thinking:

1) updates are available so I execute the rsync script which pulls any updated 
files from my laptop to a backup server/drive


2) apply updates

3) if something breaks (even if I can no longer login) I boot the laptop, run 
the rsync script in the opposite direction (push files from the backup drive 
to the laptop) 

I assume that if I were to execute step 3 above that my system would be in the 
exact state that it was before I ran the updates. Is this a correct 
assumption ?  Are there better approaches ?



Thanks in advance..



Taking a disk image snapshot with something like clonezilla might be an 
alternative for you to consider.


http://clonezilla.org/

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Re: [CentOS] Running From Live DVD Keeping Settings Between Boots

2008-11-10 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Phil Schaffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brent L. Bates wrote:

 Someone posted how to use a memory card (USB or another kind) to save
 settings between boots of a Live CD/DVD.  I believe it was posted not too
 long
 ago and I thought I had kept the email, but now that I'm looking for the
 information, I can not find it.  I've done some searching and I either get
 way
 too many hits or way too few, none of which are what I'm looking for.
  Does
 anyone remember that post and can forward that message to me?  Thanks.

 Unless I'm missing something, you must be remembering another distro. Had
 some discussions on this during 5.2 live CD testing with Patrice Guay who
 builds the CentOS live CDs.  Knoppix has a feature to save to USB, and
 Fedora 9 uses persistence to save changes from their live CD, but as of
 5.2 CentOS livecd does not implement it.

Yet another option is to use Scientific Linux LiveCD/DVD:

http://linux.web.psi.ch/livecd/save.html

Being a sister product of CentOS, SL might be a viable option for
CentOS users.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - SOLVED

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:32 PM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Question: Is /hda3 mounted properly? I don't think so, because when I
 try to boot Linux from the Grub menu on the HD, it gives me Error 17:
 Cannot mount selected partition

 Someone just answered earlier in this thread that you need to change
 your hd(0,2) to hd(0,1) on the grub boot line.  That should work.  You
 don't need to do this from any special rescue boot, just boot the
 system, and when the grub stage 2 boot selection shows with its
 countdown, stop it (with the space bar) and use the grub shell to edit
 that line and it _should_ boot properly.

Mark (MHR) and the earlier responder who previously mentioned to
change  to root (hd0,1) in the GRUB boot menu. A_SPECIAL_THANK_YOU!
That got me into CentOS5.2  :-)  I did notice an error message,
when the box was booting, mounting local filesystems failed but I
think that has to do with mounting the NTFS partition, which I will
fix in /etc/fstab after I send this message.

 If WCTW, instead of downloading the CentOS 5 DVD, just pull down the
 first CD image and burn that.  It's a lot shorter than the whole DVD,
 and it's all you need to get into rescue mode.

OK. I will download the first CD, but not tonight, since my CentOS 5
Installation DVD is now toast. I ran into this problem, Saturday
afternoon, and the list is very slow on weekends and then our ADSL
went down, because there was a bad card in the phone company Router or
some other HW in our subdivision.  To everyone who replied, THANK YOU!
 Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Reinstalled Windows and GRUB - Cannot boot Linux - SOLVED

2008-11-10 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:32 PM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Question: Is /hda3 mounted properly? I don't think so, because when I
 try to boot Linux from the Grub menu on the HD, it gives me Error 17:
 Cannot mount selected partition

 When I had this error, it meant that grub could not find the boot
 partition itself.  (The boot PROM did, but grub doesn't see the disks
 the same way and can get lost.)

 Someone just answered earlier in this thread that you need to change
 your hd(0,2) to hd(0,1) on the grub boot line.  That should work.  You
 don't need to do this from any special rescue boot, just boot the
 system, and when the grub stage 2 boot selection shows with its
 countdown, stop it (with the space bar) and use the grub shell to edit
 that line and it _should_ boot properly.

 If WCTW, instead of downloading the CentOS 5 DVD, just pull down the
 first CD image and burn that.  It's a lot shorter than the whole DVD,
 and it's all you need to get into rescue mode.

All is well now!   :-) I corrected the line in /etc/fstab and I can
see the NTFS partition. As I expected, changing the line in the GRUB
boot menu, as the box was booting, did not survive a reboot. I edited
the lines for the 3 Linux Kernels, in /boot/grub/grub.conf and that
fixed that problem I knew I had to edit those files, and what  MHR
(Mark) explained to me tonight, and apparently a poster prior to him,
made it *much* easier. I would like to learn how to do things with the
Live CD, but as it turns out, I did not need that for this problem and
it just added to my frustration. Thanks again, to everyone!
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Re: [CentOS] bonding theory question

2008-11-10 Thread Mag Gam
So, I decided to go with mode 6 since my network admin says thats
supported at my college.

I have everything working perfectly however I still get an occasional
packet drop which is not good.

http://www.howtoforge.com/network_card_bonding_centos


By reading the HOWTO and README.txt I am not sure if I am missing
anything else. Has anyone else configured this before?

TIA




On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Filipe Brandenburger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 13:11, Mag Gam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, would there be a big performance boost when using mode4?

 Not necessarily, since balance-rr already gives you load-balancing.
 They actually implement it differently. balance-rr can spread packets
 of the same TCP connection across the two links, so you may use your
 links more, but with the side effect of having your packets delivered
 out of order. In 802.3ad all packets of a single TCP connection will
 use the same link, this means your links will not be as balanced as
 what you get with balance-rr, but it will not require reordering on
 the other side of the connection. Check section 12.1.1 in
 /usr/share/doc/iputils-*/README.bonding . In any case, you should
 evaluate what your needs are and tune for that.

 Currently I am seeing 95% total throughput.

 If you have only a few clients doing huge transfers, 802.3ad will
 probably not be as good as balance-rr for that. Again, you should tune
 it for your needs.

 Which isn't that bad. I am
 peaking at 238MB/sec (each gig/e connections)

 I believe you mean 238MB/sec on both interfaces, since 1Gbps = 125MB/s.

 Also, mode0 does fault tolerance, meaning if a switch failure occurs
 we should still be good, but how would the packets then be
 transferred? I suppose rr would be disabled since it won't need to
 alternate, correct?

 Actually balance-rr is still there, it is only doing round-robin of
 one interface only. Remember, you could have a bonding of 3, 4 or more
 interfaces, in that case if you loose one you still have more than one
 to balance traffic through.

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[CentOS] Setting up eth0 with address 0.0.0.0

2008-11-10 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello,

I'm following instructions in
http://www.austintek.com/LVS/LVS-HOWTO/HOWTO/LVS-HOWTO.LVS-DR.html#route_on_non_ip_interface
to allow my xen guest real hosts to serve virtual IP's behind LVS
without having to allocate real public IP addresses for each such xen
guest.

I have eth1 connected via a back-end switch to the eth1/xenbr1 of
the xen host and the other physical servers, this is the interface
that is used by LVS to switch packets over to the real servers.

I managed to manually do:

# ip route add to default-router dev eth0
# ip route add via default-router

and before that, in order to allow outgoing packets to be sent via eth0, I did:
# ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up

and it works great, but when I try to configure this permanently via
ifcfg-eth0 it says:

Bringing up interface eth0:  connect: Invalid argument
[  OK  ]

Things seem to work OK - the server can serve over the Virtual IP,
eth0 doesn't have an IP associated with it etc. But I'm worried about
this message.

Some relevant config files:
ifcfg-eth0:

To setup the routes, I followed
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/s1-networkscripts-static-routes.html
and http://www.mail-archive.com/centos@centos.org/msg15253.html and
put the following in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0:
DEVICE=eth0
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
IPADDR=0.0.0.0
NETMASK=0.0.0.0

route-eth0:
to router-address dev eth0
via router-address

output of ifconfig eth0:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:3E:19:E6:97
  inet6 addr: fe80::216:3eff:fe19:e697/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:2012 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:250 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:174268 (170.1 KiB)  TX bytes:47731 (46.6 KiB)

So - did I do this correctly and what should I do to fix the error message?

Thanks,

--Amos
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[CentOS] Rlocate on Centos 5

2008-11-10 Thread Test
All,

I would like to run Rlocate on centos 5, but i would have to recompile
the kernel, which, when reading some posts about custom kernels on
centos, is not recommended...

Is there another way to get rlocate to work on the stock kernel ?

http://rlocate.sourceforge.net/#kernel_configuration


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[CentOS] Kernel compilation problems

2008-11-10 Thread Test
All,

I am trying to build a custom kernel, following the howto and some stuff
i found on the forums (mkspec.patch)

1. the mkspec.patch gives an error: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] linux]# patch -p1  mkspec.patch
(Stripping trailing CRs from patch.)
patching file scripts/package/mkspec
Hunk #1 succeeded at 103 with fuzz 2 (offset 22 lines).
Hunk #2 FAILED at 115.
1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file scripts/package/mkspec.rej


2. When i create an rpm out of the standard configfile (/boot/config)
the RPM file created is about 100mb which to me seems a bit large...?


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