Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Germán Andrés Pulido F.]

Hi!

Thanks everyone who helped me. In the end, it seems the problem is the 
virtualizing software, since I installed openvpn, configured it, and the 
exact same thing happens. Is there any log i can look to have any clue 
about this kind of reboots?


Thanks!

Jason Pyeron wrote:

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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:46 AM
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Hi!

Thanks for your help. The free version of vmware is ESXi, 



http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ (using 1.x series)


  
that's what you are using right? I also authenticate VPN 
sessions against the domain controller, that also works 
beautifully. Only issue is the reboot of the server. However, 
I found that terminal services is not the only think that 
produces the reboot, once I managed to reboot it while just 



What is the uptime on the VM host?

  
browsing some of our internal web servers (plain HTTP) so the 
bug is not strictly related to Terminal Services. Now, the 
fact that you have the same configuration running seems to 
imply that the issue is with something specific to my 
installation. Now, a quick question: did you compile pptpd 
yourself? or you used RPMs from the official web site?



No compiling here, we have no time... Direct from a CentOS yum repo near you.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/issue
CentOS release 5 (Final)
Kernel \r on an \m
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qf /usr/sbin/pptpd
pptpd-1.3.4-1.rhel5.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# uname -a
Linux XX.ZZ 2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Wed Mar 5
11:36:49 EST 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

  

Thanks again.

Jason Pyeron wrote:

Sorry for the late jump in here, hence the top post 
  
(missing earlier 


posts).
 
I have a working setup as you described with out the reboot 
  
problem. 


There is one difference, we are using VMWare (free version).
 
It even authenticates against the domain controller for vpn 
  

sessions.

 
I would be happy to help find the differences in your 
  
setup, or help 


you "copy" ours.
 
-Jason
 
  

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[Frank Cox]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:28:50 -0500
John Plemons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, but not exactly what I have in mind, the 
> inventory is fluid and quantity changes are updated daily.  My goal 
> would be a real time link to a secondary DB which has a update push from 
> the primary DB, the primary is a Firebird DB under Windows 2003 server..

I don't think you're going to get the results that you think you're going to
get, assuming that by "search engines" you mean Google, MSN and the like.  Your
site may or many not be spidered by the search engines on a daily, weekly or
monthly basis.  "Google works in mysterious ways."

I get the impression that you want someone who searches one of the search
engines for Widget No. 12345 to be sent to your site if you happen to have
Widget No. 12345 in stock today.  You're planning to use Google as your database
frontend and salesman, in other words.  Nothing wrong with that in theory, I
suppose, but I really don't think you're going to be able to keep an
up-to-the-minute inventory on Google unless you pay them for the service in
some way.

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[John Plemons]

Thanks for the feedback, but not exactly what I have in mind, the 
inventory is fluid and quantity changes are updated daily.  My goal 
would be a real time link to a secondary DB which has a update push from 
the primary DB, the primary is a Firebird DB under Windows 2003 server..


john


Rainer Duffner wrote:


Am 26.11.2008 um 01:34 schrieb John Plemons:


I'm looking for a application, and or ideas on how to 

Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing 
all of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql 
or other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part 
number search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would 
like all 150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


Can anyone come up with any ideas??

The platform is a basic P4 running Centos 5, disk space isn't much of 
an issue, I have 100 gig available for the application. The only 
other application on the machine is a picture server for off site 
auctions, so CPU load isn't major factor.




Why the hassle?

http://www.google.com/base/



Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[John Thomas]

John Plemons wrote:
Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing all 
of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql or 
other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part number 
search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would like all 
150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


http://drupal.org

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Ross Walker]

On Nov 25, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Adam Tauno Williams  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now
that
I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
What does everyone recommend?
Thanks

How much money do you have?
What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to
virtualize?
Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
;-)
On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i


I'd recommend the ESX3i if your server count is low (thus you won't  
need

Virtual Center, which is not free).  VMware works amazingly well, is
going to be around for the forseeable future, has excellent vendor
support, and a HUGE community of users.  And installation/setup is  
akin

to falling off the proverbial log.


I second that.

Plus you can buy into Virtual Center/Foundation later and have your  
existing ESXi hosts merged into the management framework as they are  
and gain VMotion, HA, DR, VDI, etc.


-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] [Q] what is difference between CENTOS and ORACLE unbreak Linux

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 04:55 +0800, mcclnx mcc wrote:
> ORACLE unbreak Linux and CENTOS both source code come from Redhat
> LINUX.  Does there have other difference between CENTOS and ORACLE
> Linux?

There's one *very* big difference, which should be kept in mind: CentOS
doesn't spit on Red Hat.

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Re: [CentOS] [Q] what is difference between CENTOS and ORACLE unbreak Linux

[Thomas Iverson]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Larry Vaden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/11/25 mcclnx mcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> ORACLE unbreak Linux and CENTOS both source code come from Redhat LINUX.
>> Does there have other difference between CENTOS and ORACLE Linux?
>
> Try subscribing and waiting on the next set of changes.  We did, but
> didn't have enough time to wait long enough.  YMMV (read: they may
> have changed).
>
> I presume it is because of the length of testing they do based upon
> the presumption that Oracle SW is involved at the user's site.
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Why not google it first , here is an article I found that may help
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS3439288465.html

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Re: [CentOS] [Q] what is difference between CENTOS and ORACLE unbreak Linux

[Larry Vaden]

2008/11/25 mcclnx mcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ORACLE unbreak Linux and CENTOS both source code come from Redhat LINUX.
> Does there have other difference between CENTOS and ORACLE Linux?

Try subscribing and waiting on the next set of changes.  We did, but
didn't have enough time to wait long enough.  YMMV (read: they may
have changed).

I presume it is because of the length of testing they do based upon
the presumption that Oracle SW is involved at the user's site.

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ORACLE unbreak Linux and CENTOS both source code come from Redhat LINUX.  Does 
there have other difference between CENTOS and ORACLE Linux?


  
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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Ramon Nieto]

> Ramon: Look here:
> http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.mx/
>


I'll contact the ones that sell new modems.

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Re: [CentOS] tightvnc server fails to start

[MHR]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried to use tightvnc back in August and had some help, but I stopped due
> to IPv6 support.  Now I am back at tightvnc and cannot get the server
> started.  This is on a new Centos install that did have regular vncserver
> working on it (I did a yum erase vnc-server first).
>

Are you sure you don't want to ask this in the rpmforge list?
Tightvnc is an rpmforge package, not a CentOS (or RHEL) package

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[Rainer Duffner]

Am 26.11.2008 um 01:34 schrieb John Plemons:


I'm looking for a application, and or ideas on how to 

Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing  
all of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql  
or other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part  
number search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would  
like all 150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


Can anyone come up with any ideas??

The platform is a basic P4 running Centos 5, disk space isn't much  
of an issue, I have 100 gig available for the application. The only  
other application on the machine is a picture server for off site  
auctions, so CPU load isn't major factor.




Why the hassle?

http://www.google.com/base/



Regards,
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[CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[John Plemons]

I'm looking for a application, and or ideas on how to 

Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing all 
of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql or 
other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part number 
search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would like all 
150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


Can anyone come up with any ideas??

The platform is a basic P4 running Centos 5, disk space isn't much of an 
issue, I have 100 gig available for the application. The only other 
application on the machine is a picture server for off site auctions, so 
CPU load isn't major factor.


Thanks,
john


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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Rainer Duffner]

Am 25.11.2008 um 21:18 schrieb Bo Lynch:




On Tue, November 25, 2008 2:55 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote:


Am 25.11.2008 um 20:32 schrieb Bo Lynch:



I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now
that
I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
What does everyone recommend?
Thanks
Bo Lynch



How much money do you have?
What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to
virtualize?
Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
;-)

On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i or VMware-server is perfectly
possible.



Rainer



Right now we have a about 30 servers. Mixture of  
CentOS,debian,slack,windows.
Free is always the best cost and is why we have been moving toward  
open

source as much as possible.
Bo



Hm. For 30 servers, ESX3i might still be OK.
Provided, you don't want/need live-migration etc.
AFAIK, you can buy-in that at a later point.

What I hate about ESX(i) is the fact that you have to use Windows to  
manage the stuff (in the long run).


I'm not sure if KVM is upto the task, yet.



Rainer




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Re: [CentOS] saslauthd crashes

[Kai Schaetzl]

Bazooka Joe wrote on Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:24:26 -0800:

> saslauthd

you can use dovecot auth with postfix.

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Kai Schaetzl]

Tom Brown wrote on Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:13:26 +:

> libvirt handles both so fundamentally it makes no difference as to what 
> the virtualization technology is as the way its managed will not change

It makes a difference. All of what I hear about KVM clearly states that 
its performance is much worse than a paravirtualized RHEL/CentOS.

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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Lanny Marcus]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ramon Nieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be
>> supported... true 16550 UARTS...
>
> The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems here in
> Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is not an option.

Look here: It says they are used, but he has seven (7) of them. Maybe
join Mercadolibre
and send him a message, asking if they are new or used... I suspect
they are new, but, not sure of that.

Saludos desde Cali, Colombia
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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Lanny Marcus]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ramon Nieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be
>> supported... true 16550 UARTS...
>
> The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems here in
> Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is not an option.

Ramon: Look here:
http://computacion.mercadolibre.com.mx/
I've purchased a number of hard to find things on Mercadolibre.com in Colombia.
Any External Serial port modem should work as I recall. I used a Zoom
External modem. We have ADSL now. Where you are, obviously, that's not
an option.
Hard to find companies that will ship something like that out of the
USA, but they exist, if you are willing to pay the Shipping and Import
Fees. You might look on Buy.com or some other site, for an example of
available models and  prices. Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Tom Brown]

Right now we have a about 30 servers. Mixture of CentOS,debian,slack,windows.
Free is always the best cost and is why we have been moving toward open
source as much as possible.
  



i see nothing 'wrong' with using Xen for now and for quite a few years 
yet - its not going anywhere anytime soon

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> > I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now  
> > that
> > I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
> > What does everyone recommend?
> > Thanks
> How much money do you have?
> What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to  
> virtualize?
> Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
> ;-)
> On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i

I'd recommend the ESX3i if your server count is low (thus you won't need
Virtual Center, which is not free).  VMware works amazingly well, is
going to be around for the forseeable future, has excellent vendor
support, and a HUGE community of users.  And installation/setup is akin
to falling off the proverbial log.

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> I've been watching Xen myself since it first came out and never
> found it compelling so it's kind of vindication for me as I've
> had justify not using Xen a few times in the past couple years.

Ditto, that is my experience as well.

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RE: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Joseph L. Casale]

>Why not give kvm a try

>i am getting a BSOD on shutdown, but so far it is not bothering
>anything afaic tell.

You're not exactly making a good pitch bro :)
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[CentOS] tightvnc server fails to start

[Robert Moskowitz]

I tried to use tightvnc back in August and had some help, but I stopped 
due to IPv6 support.  Now I am back at tightvnc and cannot get the 
server started.  This is on a new Centos install that did have regular 
vncserver working on it (I did a yum erase vnc-server first).


So I have a working /etc/sysconfig/vncserver and my user has the 
appropriate ~/.vnc files that worked with regular vnc.


Logged in as root, I issue:  service vncserver start

and get:

Starting TightVNC remote administration daemon (Xvnc):2:root WARNING: 
initlog is deprecated and will be removed in a future

vncserver: The USER environment variable is not set.
  [FAILED]



But there is a USER environment variable set:

set|grep USER

PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne 
"\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:${PWD/#$HOME/~}"; echo -ne "\007"'

USER=root

(remember, I am logged in as root so I can issue the service command)

And further in /etc/profile I have:

if [ -x /usr/bin/id ]; then
   USER="`id -un`"
   LOGNAME=$USER
   MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER"
fi



The only line in the /etc/sysconfig/vncservers is:

VNCSERVERS="2:user"

where user is the userid.


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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Rob Townley]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bo Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, November 25, 2008 2:55 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote:
>>
>> Am 25.11.2008 um 20:32 schrieb Bo Lynch:
>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now
>>> that
>>> I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
>>> What does everyone recommend?
>>> Thanks
>>> Bo Lynch
>>
>>
>> How much money do you have?
>> What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to
>> virtualize?
>> Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
>> ;-)
>>
>> On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i or VMware-server is perfectly
>> possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rainer
>
>
> Right now we have a about 30 servers. Mixture of CentOS,debian,slack,windows.
> Free is always the best cost and is why we have been moving toward open
> source as much as possible.
> Bo
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Why not give kvm a try?  i am using kvm on Fedora 9 to virtualize
Win2008 at the moment.  Also installed Virtual Machine Manager to set
up.  i am getting a BSOD on shutdown, but so far it is not bothering
anything afaic tell.
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Re: [CentOS] Sun depricates JRE 1.4.2, what impact on Centos?

[Karanbir Singh]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html";
Centos comes with the 1.4.2-gcj-compat rpm.  What impact does this all 
have?


you might want to investigate what that 'gcj' bit means. Knowing what 
you are talking about never hurt anyone, that I know of anyway.


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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Lanny Marcus]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Ramon Nieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be
>> supported... true 16550 UARTS...
>
> The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems here in
> Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is not an option.

I did a better search. There are listings for both new and used
external modems on mercadolibre.com in Mexico.


Finding something like this in Mexico, may be as difficult as it is
here in Colombia. GL!
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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Bo Lynch]

On Tue, November 25, 2008 2:55 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote:
>
> Am 25.11.2008 um 20:32 schrieb Bo Lynch:
>
>>
>> I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now
>> that
>> I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
>> What does everyone recommend?
>> Thanks
>> Bo Lynch
>
>
> How much money do you have?
> What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to
> virtualize?
> Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
> ;-)
>
> On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i or VMware-server is perfectly
> possible.
>
>
>
> Rainer


Right now we have a about 30 servers. Mixture of CentOS,debian,slack,windows.
Free is always the best cost and is why we have been moving toward open
source as much as possible.
Bo


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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[John R Pierce]

Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

The main issue seems to be cost of porting fixes and Xen itself to
newer kernels. The fact that Xen did not get into mainstream kernel
made the costs higher and higher. KVM got into mainstream kernel and
thus has more eyes on it.
  



Another point...KVM only runs on new CPUs that have hardware 
virtualization, this makes its job, and therefore implementation, 
simpler.Xen runs on older processors but requires special drivers 
("paravirtualization") for most guest environments, and is more complex 
because of this.



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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Rainer Duffner]

Am 25.11.2008 um 20:32 schrieb Bo Lynch:



I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now  
that

I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
What does everyone recommend?
Thanks
Bo Lynch



How much money do you have?
What (how many systems, what do they do?) do you actually want to  
virtualize?

Are you going to be around your school for the next couple of years?
;-)

On a small scale, running VMware ESX3i or VMware-server is perfectly  
possible.




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Re: [CentOS] Trouble Donating on centos.org

[John R Pierce]

nate wrote:

I've used paypal on a couple of occasions several years ago and
didn't have a problem but I've read/heard too many stories of
them screwing people over to trust them with anything.

I opened up a paypal account a few days ago to send a few bucks to
someone else for a piece of software since I _really_ wanted it
and he only took paypal. I plan to close it again soon.
  


the ONLY problems I've heard of are related to them holding cash funds 
in the account when transactions are disputed. My solution has been 
to keep near-zero balance in my paypal account.   I organized a group 
event a few years ago, had to collect money from about 100 people for 
camping and tshirts, paypal was invaluable.I've used it to buy many 
items off ebay, send cash to private parties, etc.   I linked my account 
to a purpose opened checking account that has near $0 balance so I can 
transfer cash out, and I use an Amex card for all payment transactions, 
never had a problem.


of course, this is anecdotal evidence of 1 sample point, and therefore 
meaningless.



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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Germán Andrés Pulido F.]

I highly recommend U.S. Robotics Courier analog modem 
(http://www.usr.com/products/modem/business-product.asp?sku=USR3453c). 
It requires a serial port on the machine, but if you have one, it's 
worth it. It's the best modem I've ever used, and worked flawlessly on 
windows, linux, solaris and freebsd for many years until I got DSL.


Regards.

Ramon Nieto wrote:



You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be
supported... true 16550 UARTS...


The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems 
here in Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is 
not an option.





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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Bo Lynch]

On Tue, November 25, 2008 2:33 pm, Rainer Duffner wrote:
>
> Am 25.11.2008 um 20:22 schrieb Brett Serkez:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Xen wont be in RHEL6 - KVM will
>>
>> What insight can be offered on this change?  Is this a business or
>> technical or both decision?
>
>
>  From what I have heard of people who actually know a bit about
> virtualization and kernel-design, it probably wasn't a hard decision
> on the technical side.
>
> Business... well, Citrix owns it now, more or less. That itself
> probably was enough to send it to the bin.
> Everybody is running their favorite fork of it anyway.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> libvirt handles both so fundamentally it makes no difference as to
>>> what the
>>> virtualization technology is as the way its managed will not change
>>
>> I would image there has to be a conversion, for instance the format of
>> the disk image, or the way that networking is setup?
>
>
> They have some years to figure it out.
> ;-)
>
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Rainer

I was thinking about implementing Xen for our school district. Now that
I'm hearing all of this I guess I need to look at something else.
What does everyone recommend?
Thanks
Bo Lynch


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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Brett Serkez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Xen wont be in RHEL6 - KVM will
>
> What insight can be offered on this change?  Is this a business or
> technical or both decision?

The main issue seems to be cost of porting fixes and Xen itself to
newer kernels. The fact that Xen did not get into mainstream kernel
made the costs higher and higher. KVM got into mainstream kernel and
thus has more eyes on it.




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Re: [CentOS] Sun depricates JRE 1.4.2, what impact on Centos?

[William L. Maltby]

On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 14:14 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> From a different list:
> 
> "JRE from SUN is getting depracated:
> 
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html";
> 
> 
> Centos comes with the 1.4.2-gcj-compat rpm.  What impact does this all have?
> 
> I do have JRE 1.6.0_05 installed on most of my systems (I see that 
> update 10 is the now current version).

I can't answer your prime question, but I have and do run the jre-6u
5/6/7 issues from the java site successfully. Trying the update 10 from
there fails, but I "unnerstan" that's been biased towards WinBlows for
the new Explorer browser.

I do have the java-1.4.2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-40jpp.115 in use as well.

> 

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Rainer Duffner]

Am 25.11.2008 um 20:22 schrieb Brett Serkez:


On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Xen wont be in RHEL6 - KVM will


What insight can be offered on this change?  Is this a business or
technical or both decision?



From what I have heard of people who actually know a bit about  
virtualization and kernel-design, it probably wasn't a hard decision  
on the technical side.


Business... well, Citrix owns it now, more or less. That itself  
probably was enough to send it to the bin.

Everybody is running their favorite fork of it anyway.






libvirt handles both so fundamentally it makes no difference as to  
what the

virtualization technology is as the way its managed will not change


I would image there has to be a conversion, for instance the format of
the disk image, or the way that networking is setup?



They have some years to figure it out.
;-)




cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Sun depricates JRE 1.4.2, what impact on Centos?

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From a different list:
>
> "JRE from SUN is getting depracated:
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html";
>
>
> Centos comes with the 1.4.2-gcj-compat rpm.  What impact does this all have?

Not much on CentOS directly. I believe the code that CentOS comes with
is a compiler to allow for 1.4.x code to be compiled within
limitations to local execution. It does not act as a Run Time engine.
Fixes to the compat have been seperate from what Sun has had to supply
to their 1.4.2.

For the enterprise customer, it could have some impact as MANY
enterprise applications work only on 1.4.x.

I also believe that IBM was saying that it would support their 1.4.x
for a while longer. But I haven't seen confirmation of that.



> I do have JRE 1.6.0_05 installed on most of my systems (I see that update 10
> is the now current version).

The next CentOS-5.x should come with openjdk-6 when RHEL-5.3 is
released. That will be more of where interesting issues may come.


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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Brett Serkez]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Xen wont be in RHEL6 - KVM will

What insight can be offered on this change?  Is this a business or
technical or both decision?

> libvirt handles both so fundamentally it makes no difference as to what the
> virtualization technology is as the way its managed will not change

I would image there has to be a conversion, for instance the format of
the disk image, or the way that networking is setup?

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[CentOS] Sun depricates JRE 1.4.2, what impact on Centos?

[Robert Moskowitz]

From a different list:

"JRE from SUN is getting depracated:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html";


Centos comes with the 1.4.2-gcj-compat rpm.  What impact does this all have?

I do have JRE 1.6.0_05 installed on most of my systems (I see that 
update 10 is the now current version).



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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Tom Brown]

Which is why I originally wrote...

"*Some* are interpreting this... as an indication that xen will be 
dropped from RHEL6 as they direct their efforts towards KVM."


*If* xen is not included in RHEL6 then it will, by definition, be 
deprecated in favour of KVM irrespective of whether (or not) RH 
continues to support it throughout the life of RHEL5. Note that xen 
was dropped (not deprecated, dropped) in Fedora 10, read into that 
what you will :)


So xen isn't technically deprecated yet, but if I were a betting man, 
I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in a virtualized xen basket.


Some might choose to call that FUD, and that's their prerogative. In a 
way they're right as Red Hat's statement on xen does contain elements 
of uncertainty and doubt as they have not committed to continued 
ongoing support of xen past the current RHEL5 product lifecycle, and 
that may make some fearful for it's long term future within the Red 
Hat landscape.



Xen wont be in RHEL6 - KVM will

libvirt handles both so fundamentally it makes no difference as to what 
the virtualization technology is as the way its managed will not change

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Re: [CentOS] Getting a disk driver from 3ware installed.

[Steve Campbell]

Steve Campbell wrote:
We are having a little problem with a raid array, and it appears that 
the disk driver may be at fault.


A disk driver  for the kernel we are running, 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i386, 
has been downloaded from 3ware's site. The only documentation included 
says to run "linux dd". I'm assuming this is at the boot prompt upon 
startup, and not installation (I hope).


I have found some old threads about this for Centos 4, but it kinda 
drifted away and never really gave much info on what to do with the 
files that were downloaded.


Can anyone tell me what I'm supposed to do with this downloaded zipped 
file to get it to use the driver, please?


Thanks

Steve Campbell

I'm going to sort of "close" this thread as it seems resolved. It looks 
like there was a corrupt root directory, DRBD was doing some strange 
things, and a few other things were bouncing around. Once the fsck was 
done, most of the problems went away (duh).


I didn't do the original install, and couldn't understand how an initial 
installation occurred if the driver used didn't support the card, so 
yes, it appears "linux dd" is for fresh installs. Still don't know how I 
would create a driver disk, though.


Thanks for the replies and help offered.

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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[MHR]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ramon Nieto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems here in
> Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is not an option.
>

Have you tried US Robotics (online), or Costco?

Just a wag, but I'd think even they are available in Mexico.

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Ned Slider]

Brett Serkez wrote:

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Vandaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do people have wet underwear for nothing over XEN?

See http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/

As far as CentOS is concerned saying Xen is deprecated is
jumping the gun. CentOS ships with Xen and as long as upstream
supports it, CentOS by extension supports it.


Thank you for the clarification.

What isn't clear from reading the above referenced material is if Xen
will be included in future CentOS releases.



Which is why I originally wrote...

"*Some* are interpreting this... as an indication that xen will be 
dropped from RHEL6 as they direct their efforts towards KVM."


*If* xen is not included in RHEL6 then it will, by definition, be 
deprecated in favour of KVM irrespective of whether (or not) RH 
continues to support it throughout the life of RHEL5. Note that xen was 
dropped (not deprecated, dropped) in Fedora 10, read into that what you 
will :)


So xen isn't technically deprecated yet, but if I were a betting man, I 
wouldn't be putting all my eggs in a virtualized xen basket.


Some might choose to call that FUD, and that's their prerogative. In a 
way they're right as Red Hat's statement on xen does contain elements of 
uncertainty and doubt as they have not committed to continued ongoing 
support of xen past the current RHEL5 product lifecycle, and that may 
make some fearful for it's long term future within the Red Hat landscape.



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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[nate]

Brett Serkez wrote:

> What isn't clear from reading the above referenced material is if Xen
> will be included in future CentOS releases.


If it's included in future RHEL releases then it will be included
in future CentOS releases.

Red Hat says they will support Xen for the duration of the RHEL 5
support cycle. They haven't specified whether or not Xen will be
an option in RHEL 6, at least I haven't seen a statement around
that yet. If it's not in RHEL6 it won't be shipped in CentOS 6
(maybe it will be made available via 3rd party repositories).

So if you plan to use CentOS 5.x for the next several years then
you have nothing to worry about if you want to stick to Xen.
I really wouldn't expect significant effort to be put into
Xen in the future beyond fixing bugs and stuff. If you want
a fully supported Xen go get it from Citrix.

I've been watching Xen myself since it first came out and never
found it compelling so it's kind of vindication for me as I've
had justify not using Xen a few times in the past couple years.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Ramon Nieto]

You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be supported...
> true 16550 UARTS...
>

The problem is i can not find any retailer selling external modems here in
Mexico, i will use this modems at work so buying used ones is not an option.
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Re: [CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Tim Nelson]

You can be sure a PCI serial card and an external modem will be supported... 
true 16550 UARTS... 

You wouldn't have to worry about 'WinModems'... 

Tim Nelson 
Systems/Network Support 
Rockbochs Inc. 
(218)727-4332 x105 

- "Ramon Nieto" wrote: 
> Hello everybody, 
> I've searched google for a while looking for a list of USB or PCI dialup 
> modems supported by CentOS without success. 
> Any information on this subject will be really appreciated. 
> Thank you. 
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[CentOS] USB or PCI dialup modem supported by Centos

[Ramon Nieto]

Hello everybody,

I've searched google for a while looking for a list of USB or PCI dialup
modems supported by CentOS without success.

Any information on this subject will be really appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] saslauthd crashes

[nate]

Bazooka Joe wrote:
> Has anyone found a work around for this bug?

Doesn't seem like it -

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433583

nate

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RE: [CentOS] Trouble Donating on centos.org

[nate]

Mark A. Lewis wrote:
>> I don't trust paypal with my real CC#. Yay for temporary numbers.
>
> What's to trust? They do anything unauthorized, call your CC company and let
> them take care of it. That's the beauty of credit cards, your liability is
> almost nothing.

I guess it's more along the lines on how long the real credit
card is valid for(years) vs how long the temporary credit card
is valid for (1 month).

I've used paypal on a couple of occasions several years ago and
didn't have a problem but I've read/heard too many stories of
them screwing people over to trust them with anything.

I opened up a paypal account a few days ago to send a few bucks to
someone else for a piece of software since I _really_ wanted it
and he only took paypal. I plan to close it again soon.

Probably over paranoid I know but that's just how I am I guess.
Fortunately to my knowledge I've never been the victim of
fraud, identity theft etc.

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Re: [CentOS] adduser vs. useradd

[MHR]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Niki Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To add a user to the system on the commandline, I usually use the adduser
> command.
>
> # adduser newuser
>
> And that's it. I've been using that command probably out of an old habit,
> since I've been a long-time Slackware user before. But now I wanted to dig a
> bit deeper, and some details puzzle me.
>
> Whereas on Slackware, 'adduser' is an interactive shell script to create a
> user so that basically you don't have to memorize all the 'useradd'
> switches, CentOS' 'adduser' is a mere symbolic link to 'useradd'.
>

Did you try 'man adduser' or 'man useradd?'  There's lots of good info there

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RE: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Jason Pyeron]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "Germán 
> Andrés Pulido F."
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:46 AM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Thanks for your help. The free version of vmware is ESXi, 

http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ (using 1.x series)


> that's what you are using right? I also authenticate VPN 
> sessions against the domain controller, that also works 
> beautifully. Only issue is the reboot of the server. However, 
> I found that terminal services is not the only think that 
> produces the reboot, once I managed to reboot it while just 

What is the uptime on the VM host?

> browsing some of our internal web servers (plain HTTP) so the 
> bug is not strictly related to Terminal Services. Now, the 
> fact that you have the same configuration running seems to 
> imply that the issue is with something specific to my 
> installation. Now, a quick question: did you compile pptpd 
> yourself? or you used RPMs from the official web site?

No compiling here, we have no time... Direct from a CentOS yum repo near you.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/issue
CentOS release 5 (Final)
Kernel \r on an \m
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qf /usr/sbin/pptpd
pptpd-1.3.4-1.rhel5.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# uname -a
Linux XX.ZZ 2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Wed Mar 5
11:36:49 EST 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > Sorry for the late jump in here, hence the top post 
> (missing earlier 
> > posts).
> >  
> > I have a working setup as you described with out the reboot 
> problem. 
> > There is one difference, we are using VMWare (free version).
> >  
> > It even authenticates against the domain controller for vpn 
> sessions.
> >  
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Re: [CentOS] saslauthd crashes

[Finnur Örn Guðmundsson]

Bazooka Joe wrote:

I just took my first cent server into production and now saslauthd
keep crashing after brute force attack.

I found a bug report so this has already been reported but not fixed.

http://bugs.centos.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=2860

I assume this has to be a large problem for many people and am
surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.

Has anyone found a work around for this bug?

Is there a better rpm repo for a saslauthd that won't crash?

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Hi,

See upstream bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433583

Bgrds,
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[CentOS] saslauthd crashes

[Bazooka Joe]

I just took my first cent server into production and now saslauthd
keep crashing after brute force attack.

I found a bug report so this has already been reported but not fixed.

http://bugs.centos.org/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=2860

I assume this has to be a large problem for many people and am
surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.

Has anyone found a work around for this bug?

Is there a better rpm repo for a saslauthd that won't crash?

-bazooka
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Re: [CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Brett Serkez]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Vandaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do people have wet underwear for nothing over XEN?
>
> See http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/
>
> As far as CentOS is concerned saying Xen is deprecated is
> jumping the gun. CentOS ships with Xen and as long as upstream
> supports it, CentOS by extension supports it.

Thank you for the clarification.

What isn't clear from reading the above referenced material is if Xen
will be included in future CentOS releases.

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Re: [CentOS] clamav-update and missing dependencies

[Timothy Kesten]

Am Tuesday 25 November 2008 15:31:19 schrieb Kai Schaetzl:
> Timothy Kesten wrote on Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:17:38 +0100:
> > Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4(CLAMAV_PUBLIC) is needed by package
> > perl-Mail-ClamAV
> > Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4 is needed by package perl-Mail-ClamAV
>
> do you *really* need this package? If not, uninstall it and your problem
> is gone.


I made it in such a way - and the update functioned perfectly

Thx
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Re: [CentOS] Getting a disk driver from 3ware installed.

[Filipe Brandenburger]

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:25, Steve Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only documentation included says to
> run "linux dd". I'm assuming this is at the boot prompt upon startup, and
> not installation (I hope).

AFAIK, "linux dd" is used during installation. I'm not sure if you can
use that again once the system is already installed.

They should have a script to install the modules to the right places
for you. In theory, I guess that could be done by hand, but it would
certainly not be simple enough for us to "guess" how to do it.

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Germán Andrés Pulido F.]

Hi!

Thanks for your help. The free version of vmware is ESXi, that's what 
you are using right? I also authenticate VPN sessions against the domain 
controller, that also works beautifully. Only issue is the reboot of the 
server. However, I found that terminal services is not the only think 
that produces the reboot, once I managed to reboot it while just 
browsing some of our internal web servers (plain HTTP) so the bug is not 
strictly related to Terminal Services. Now, the fact that you have the 
same configuration running seems to imply that the issue is with 
something specific to my installation. Now, a quick question: did you 
compile pptpd yourself? or you used RPMs from the official web site?


Thanks again.

Jason Pyeron wrote:
Sorry for the late jump in here, hence the top post (missing earlier 
posts).
 
I have a working setup as you described with out the reboot problem. 
There is one difference, we are using VMWare (free version).
 
It even authenticates against the domain controller for vpn sessions.
 
I would be happy to help find the differences in your setup, or help 
you "copy" ours.
 
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Re: [CentOS] Getting a disk driver from 3ware installed.

[Karanbir Singh]

Steve Campbell wrote:
We are having a little problem with a raid array, and it appears that 
the disk driver may be at fault.


Why do you suspect that ? what hardware ( hba and base machine )  are 
you running and what kernel version is in production on the machine ?


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[CentOS] Getting a disk driver from 3ware installed.

[Steve Campbell]

We are having a little problem with a raid array, and it appears that 
the disk driver may be at fault.


A disk driver  for the kernel we are running, 2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.i386, 
has been downloaded from 3ware's site. The only documentation included 
says to run "linux dd". I'm assuming this is at the boot prompt upon 
startup, and not installation (I hope).


I have found some old threads about this for Centos 4, but it kinda 
drifted away and never really gave much info on what to do with the 
files that were downloaded.


Can anyone tell me what I'm supposed to do with this downloaded zipped 
file to get it to use the driver, please?


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RE: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Jason Pyeron]

Sorry for the late jump in here, hence the top post (missing earlier posts).
 
I have a working setup as you described with out the reboot problem. There is
one difference, we are using VMWare (free version).
 
It even authenticates against the domain controller for vpn sessions.
 
I would be happy to help find the differences in your setup, or help you "copy"
ours.
 
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server


Thanks everyone for your help. I still cannot guess what the problem is with the
rebooting of the server, but I'm currently reading about openvpn, it seems to be
the best solution for my issue.

Regards.

Filipe Brandenburger wrote: 

Hi,

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:56, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Microsoft has updated PPTP since the only paper I know about was written.
> Does anyone know if there are still problems with it or if the linux
> version is updated to match?

>From http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/protocol-security.phtml:

"PPTP on Linux, and Microsoft's PPTP, both implement fixes for vulnerabilities
that were detected years ago in Microsoft's PPTP. But there remain the design
vulnerabilities that cannot be fixed without changing the design. The changes
needed would break interoperability. We can't change the Linux PPTP design,
because it would stop working with Microsoft PPTP. They can't change their
design, because it would stop working with all the other components out there,
such as Nortel and Cisco, embedded routers, ADSL modems and their own Windows
installed base."

And POPTOP (http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/qna.html#12):

In conclusion: Poptop suffers the same security vulnerabilities as the NT sever
(this is because it operates with Windows clients).
Update: MSCHAPv2 has been released and addresses some of the security issues.
Poptop works with MSCHAPv2, which is implemented in pppd. 

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPTP):

PPTP has been made obsolete by Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol (L2TP) and IPSec.


>From these sources, I can't tell for sure if the protocol has vulnerabilities
by design or not, but in any case it seems to be agreement that other VPN
protocols such as IPSec are much more secure and reliable than PPTP. I would not
recommend starting a VPN implementation using PPTP.

L2TP/IPSec seems to be the best alternative regarding client support (built-in
support on Windows XP, Mac and the iPhone), only it is very hard to implement on
a Linux server, and there are issues with NAT traversal. OpenVPN is easy to
implement and seems to work very well with NAT, but clients must be downloaded
and installed for most platforms, and are not available, for instance, for the
iPhone.

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[CentOS] Dell PE2970 with ATI RN50

[James Bensley]

Hey Guys,

I'm having a few troubles trying to get Cent OS 5.2 displaying correctly on
my Dell PowerEdge 2970 (I also have two PowerVault NF500 III's but they are
just getting a little screen lag at the minute, the 2970 is getting white
artifacts when I drag a window!).

Can anyone help me locate and correctly install some drivers. The 2970 has
an onbaord ATI RN50 as its an AMD board/CPU combo thus its RN50 chipset. I
have look at the Dell website for Red Hat 5 drivers but there aren't any for
video? Would the Red Hat 4 drivers be OK? Also, I rang ATI and they said try
going back to the Dell and installing the general Chip set drivers as that
would probably include the onbaord graphics?

I could do with some help on this one as I have never had to install drivers
for a Linux OS before as I normalaly work with Linux on workstations which
is always straight forward.

Any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.

regards,
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[CentOS] Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

[Vandaman]

Do people have wet underwear for nothing over XEN?

See http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/


Q: Will Red Hat continue to support and contribute to Xen?

A: Yes. Red Hat will support Xen until at least 2014 
(seven years after the release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5). 
We are committed to insulating our customers from changes in 
the infrastructure components and this is why we created an open 
virtualization management standard (the Libvirt API). This 
standard is provided in Red Hat products and has been adopted 
by a number of other vendors (Sun, Novell, Ubuntu, etc.). 
It allows customers and ISVs to build virtualization management 
applications, processes and configurations based on a stable API, 
independent of the underlying virtualization technology.

Red Hat continues to be an active member of the Xen development 
community and is currently working on further integration work 
between the Xen hypervisor and the Linux kernel.


 
As far as CentOS is concerned saying Xen is deprecated is
jumping the gun. CentOS ships with Xen and as long as upstream 
supports it, CentOS by extension supports it.

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Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Ross Walker]

On Nov 24, 2008, at 11:31 PM, "Germán Andrés Pulido F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
om> wrote:


Thanks everyone for your help. I still cannot guess what the problem  
is with the rebooting of the server, but I'm currently reading about  
openvpn, it seems to be the best solution for my issue.


There have been some show stopper bugs in Xen with regard to networking.

Maybe the handling of a large volume of GRE packets in your VM has hit  
one of those.


Personnally I would give the free ESXi server a go and see how that  
works it's network handling is more mature.


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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Tony Schreiner]

On Nov 25, 2008, at 4:12 AM, Davide Cittaro wrote:


Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo Linux.
I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and I see  
that default yum repositories do not include any bioinformatics  
software (i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and others). I'm googling a bit  
but I can't find a valuable solution: which is (or which are) the  
best repository I should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm?


Thanks

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Some of these packages (perl-bioperl, python-biopython, wise2) can  
also be found in Fedora. I have usually been able to rebuild the src  
rpms for CentOS without difficulty.  Rpmforge has most of the perl  
packages required.


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Re: [CentOS] clamav-update and missing dependencies

[Kai Schaetzl]

Timothy Kesten wrote on Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:17:38 +0100:

> Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4(CLAMAV_PUBLIC) is needed by package 
> perl-Mail-ClamAV
> Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4 is needed by package perl-Mail-ClamAV

do you *really* need this package? If not, uninstall it and your problem 
is gone. I didn't check, but I assume this package is somewhat older than 
your to-be-updated 94.1 rpmforge packages and not compatible anymore. 
AFAIK the clamav perl module isn't really maintained for some time now, so 
there is nothing new to package.

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Re: [CentOS] Location of 5.2 .iso without XEN

[Tom Brown]

Some are interpreting this:

http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/

as an indication that xen will be dropped from RHEL6 as they direct 
their efforts towards KVM.



makes sense
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Re: [CentOS] clamav-update and missing dependencies

[Cagri Ersen]

Is this clam-toaster package ?

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Timothy Kesten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> again:
>
> try to update clam* and get error-message
>
> Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4(CLAMAV_PUBLIC) is needed by package
> perl-Mail-ClamAV
> Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4 is needed by package perl-Mail-ClamAV
>
> libclamav.so.4 is on my system
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libclamav
> /usr/lib/libclamav.so
> /usr/lib/libclamav.so.4
> /usr/lib/libclamav.so.4.0.4
> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libclamav.pc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
>
>
> What goes woring?
>
> CentOS 5
> update clam* to
>
> 14:06:39 :  Packages to update
> 14:06:39 :  ---> clamav - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386
> 14:06:39 :  ---> clamav-db - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386
> 14:06:39 :  ---> clamav-devel - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386
> 14:06:39 :  ---> clamd - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386
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Re: [CentOS] Location of 5.2 .iso without XEN

[Ned Slider]

Tom Brown wrote:



Sounds good. After I clicked "send", I reread your post and realized
that you didn't want xen (which, I believe, is depreciated). 



what makes you think that ?


Some are interpreting this:

http://www.redhat.com/promo/qumranet/

as an indication that xen will be dropped from RHEL6 as they direct 
their efforts towards KVM.




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[CentOS] clamav-update and missing dependencies

[Timothy Kesten]

Hi Folks,

again: 

try to update clam* and get error-message

Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4(CLAMAV_PUBLIC) is needed by package 
perl-Mail-ClamAV
Missing Dependency: libclamav.so.4 is needed by package perl-Mail-ClamAV

libclamav.so.4 is on my system

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate libclamav
/usr/lib/libclamav.so
/usr/lib/libclamav.so.4
/usr/lib/libclamav.so.4.0.4
/usr/lib/pkgconfig/libclamav.pc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$


What goes woring?

CentOS 5
update clam* to 

14:06:39 :  Packages to update
14:06:39 :  ---> clamav - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386 
14:06:39 :  ---> clamav-db - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386 
14:06:39 :  ---> clamav-devel - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386 
14:06:39 :  ---> clamd - 0.94.1-1.el5.rf.i386 

Thx
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RE: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[John]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Cittaro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:11 AM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?
> 
> Hello John, and thanks for the tips
> 
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 11:59 AM, John wrote:
> >
> >
> > David, you could try Checking out the Scientific Linux Project to  
> > Maybe add
> > and use there Repos. It should also be binary compatable 
> with CentOS.
> 
> Unfortunately that repos is suitable for physics and not really for  
> biology... :-( I found some useful rpm in FC6 repository but still I  
> miss a lot of packages.
> What is strange is that lot of those packages are standard on less  
> spread OS (I use Gentoo and FreeBSD)...
> 
> > That
> > would be the only Distributon that I know of that would maybe have  
> > what you
> > need. The only others would be maybe Debian Based Systems 
> because of  
> > the
> > huge alternate package options. But off course then you 
> would need to
> > convert the debian packages to rpm format and there is also a tool  
> > to do
> > that.
> 
> 
> That's interesting... is it a yum wrapper for apt-get or do I 
> have to  
> download .deb packages and resolve dependencies on my own?

Use a tool named Alien to convert the debian packages to RPM format.
Although be warned I have not had all that much success with doing it. It
will either work or not work on installation of the rpm. Alien not only
Converts .deb to .rpm, but can also do converts for other operating systems
package formats as long as you have the correct libs installed.

http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/RPM-for-Unix-HOWTO-8.html

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Re: [CentOS] Location of 5.2 .iso without XEN

[Tom Brown]

Sounds good. After I clicked "send", I reread your post and realized
that you didn't want xen (which, I believe, is depreciated). 



what makes you think that ?
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[CentOS] Correct way to change I/O scheduler in a iSCSI dev

[Santi Saez]

Hi,

What's the correct way to change configuration parameters for an iSCSI
device? For example I/O scheduler, max_sectors_kb, etc...

I could add commands to the S99local script:

  echo noop > /sys/block/sdb/queue/scheduler
  echo 64 > /sys/block/sdb/queue/max_hw_sectors_kb

Unfortunately, iSCSI device names might change from sdb to, say, sdc
(server reboot, iSCSI target reconnection). If this happens, customizations
would be lost or applied to a different device.

Any workaround for this using centOS? sysctl, udev, anything else? It also
may be applied to Fiber Channel devices..

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Marcelo M. Garcia]

Davide Cittaro wrote:

Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo Linux.
I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and I see that 
default yum repositories do not include any bioinformatics software 
(i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and others). I'm googling a bit but I can't 
find a valuable solution: which is (or which are) the best repository I 
should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm?


Thanks

d


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Hi

Maybe you can find in EPEL repository.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL


regards

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Kai Schaetzl]

Davide Cittaro wrote on Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:23:44 +0100:

> repo.bioinformatics.upenn.edu
> 
> and others but they seem to be seldom updated...

but they may well be your only ressource here, bioinformatics surely isn't 
a widespread task given the whole userbase ;-)
You may want to contact the maintainers of such a repo and ask if they can 
provide updates more often. I gather that, apart from time constraints 
etc., they may also need some encouragement as they are not catering too 
so many users.

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Davide Cittaro]

On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Vandaman wrote:

These look like BioRpms to me BioRPMS :-
Bioinformatics RPMs Repository http://informatics.umdnj.edu/BioRPMs/



Ouch! I've missed this!

thanks

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Vandaman]

Davide Cittaro wrote:

> Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo
> Linux.
> I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and
> I see that default yum repositories do not include any
> bioinformatics software (i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and
> others). I'm googling a bit but I can't find a
> valuable solution: which is (or which are) the best
> repository I should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo
> rpm?

These look like BioRpms to me BioRPMS :- 
Bioinformatics RPMs Repository http://informatics.umdnj.edu/BioRPMs/

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Davide Cittaro]

Hello John, and thanks for the tips

On Nov 25, 2008, at 11:59 AM, John wrote:



David, you could try Checking out the Scientific Linux Project to  
Maybe add

and use there Repos. It should also be binary compatable with CentOS.


Unfortunately that repos is suitable for physics and not really for  
biology... :-( I found some useful rpm in FC6 repository but still I  
miss a lot of packages.
What is strange is that lot of those packages are standard on less  
spread OS (I use Gentoo and FreeBSD)...



That
would be the only Distributon that I know of that would maybe have  
what you
need. The only others would be maybe Debian Based Systems because of  
the

huge alternate package options. But off course then you would need to
convert the debian packages to rpm format and there is also a tool  
to do

that.



That's interesting... is it a yum wrapper for apt-get or do I have to  
download .deb packages and resolve dependencies on my own?


Thanks again

d

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RE: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[John]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Cittaro
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:13 AM
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?
> 
> Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo Linux.
> I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and I 
> see that default yum repositories do not include any 
> bioinformatics software (i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and 
> others). I'm googling a bit but I can't find a valuable 
> solution: which is (or which are) the best repository I 
> should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm?

David, you could try Checking out the Scientific Linux Project to Maybe add
and use there Repos. It should also be binary compatable with CentOS. That
would be the only Distributon that I know of that would maybe have what you
need. The only others would be maybe Debian Based Systems because of the
huge alternate package options. But off course then you would need to
convert the debian packages to rpm format and there is also a tool to do
that.

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[CentOS] Centos 4 Yumdownloader vs yum-downloadonly on Centos 5

[Vandaman]

Peter Kjellstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> For completeness, yumdownloader is a command/program that
> comes with the 
> yum-utils package on centos 4 and 5.
> 

Yumdownloader on centos 4 does not add the functionality of the
yum --downloadonly feature in Centos 5 from the yum-downloadonly-1.1.10-9.el5

I was replying to Peter Kjellstrom  
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2008-November/068300.html

as the original thread was about yum --downloadonly not present 
in centos 4.

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Re: [CentOS] adduser vs. useradd

[Vandaman]

Niki Kovacs  wrote:

> I just found a copy of "RHEL 5 Unleashed", and
> there's a very clear chapter about local user
> management, which explains Red Hat's specific use of
> 'useradd', especially default options.
> 

One of the golden rules about posting is that you should 
try and do some basic research on your problem particularly
when http://www.centos.org/docs has tons of stuff. There seems
to be an influx of Slackware refugees joining the list.

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Re: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Davide Cittaro]

On Nov 25, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:


You could try rpmforge. I add and enable this repo routinely. I find  
it rather
good generally speaking. FWIW, I haven't heard of any repos with  
specifically

bioinfo rpms.


I've added it but I cannot find bioinfo packages... I've seen people  
adding this


repo.bioinformatics.upenn.edu

and others but they seem to be seldom updated...

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Re: [CentOS] PPTP VPN server

[Amos Shapira]

2008/11/25 Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Microsoft has updated PPTP since the only paper I know about was written.
>  Does anyone know if there are still problems with it or if the linux
> version is updated to match?

In addition to Filipe's detailed reply - when I was looking at details
for a new VPN server options in the last few days I noticed that PPTP
support was always mentioned as "PPTP+IPSEC", which doesn't gives an
impression like people who use or sell PPTP don't have much confidence
in its security when used stand-alone.

Cheers,

--Amos
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RE: [CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Sorin Srbu]

Davide Cittaro <> scribbled on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:13 AM:

> I'm googling a bit but I can't find a
> valuable solution: which is (or which are) the best repository I should add
> to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm?

You could try rpmforge. I add and enable this repo routinely. I find it rather
good generally speaking. FWIW, I haven't heard of any repos with specifically
bioinfo rpms.
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Re: [CentOS] ntop from rpmforge

[Max Hodgson]

2008/11/25 John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I installed ntop on a centos5.2 system (which got all yum updates a few
> days ago)...
>
>   # rpm -q ntop rrdtool
>   ntop-3.3.8-1.el5.rf
>   rrdtool-1.2.28-1.el5.rf
>
> went through the password configuration
>
> when I start it, its erroring.
>
> # service ntop start
> Starting ntop:Processing file /etc/ntop.conf for parameters...
> Mon Nov 24 23:56:36 2008  NOTE: Interface merge enabled by default
> Mon Nov 24 23:56:36 2008  Initializing gdbm databases
> FATAL ERROR: Unrecognized/unprocessed ntop options...
>--user ntop,
> --db-file-path /var/ntop,
>
> run ntop --help for usage information
>
>

Hi

There is an error in the ntop startup file.

If you edit:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/ntop

and find the line:

daemon $prog -d -L @/etc/ntop.conf

(This is in the "start ()" section)

Replace with the line:

daemon $prog @/etc/ntop.conf -d -L

i.e. The config file bit needs to be before the parameters.

It should then work when you do "service ntop start".

mjh
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Re: [CentOS] XFS or JFS on CentOS 5?

[Amos Shapira]

2008/11/25 Sorin Srbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> MHR <> scribbled on Friday, November 21, 2008 7:01 PM:
>
>> So, your situation is the real determining factor.  If it's important
>> enough to your place of employment, do a study to see what works best
>> for you and go with that.  Otherwise, I'd say just stick with ext3 as
>> long as that works for you.
>
> No, no, this is directed purely at home use. I've been playing around with
> MythTV a bit, which usually sooner or later means big files-handling. Ext3 is
> not that good at that.

I used "to swear" by ReiserFS for a few years on my home desktop,
including through a few power failure, until one day I tried to shrink
it and lost all data.

I now stick to ext3. It's good enough for anything I need on my
desktop, it doesn't require extra hoops to jump through in order to
install (I think Debian installer supports it but I don't use Debian
any more) and I feel comfortable enough to play with it.

Cheers,

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[CentOS] bioinformatics repository?

[Davide Cittaro]

Hi all, I'm new to Centos, just moved here from Gentoo Linux.
I have to install a server for bioinformatics purposes and I see that  
default yum repositories do not include any bioinformatics software  
(i.e. ncbi-toolkit, blat, and others). I'm googling a bit but I can't  
find a valuable solution: which is (or which are) the best repository  
I should add to have a satisfying list of bioinfo rpm?


Thanks

d


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Re: [CentOS] adduser vs. useradd

[Thomas Iverson]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Niki Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Iverson a écrit :
>>
>> Hi there , you are almost right
>> adduser is only a symbol-link of the useradd in CentOS , for my
>> explanation , it may be security-related
>> you know , to use useradd , you can also specify the home dir,group
>> and so on , but script codes have danger
>> adduser under some distros such as archlinux,slackware is a
>> bash-script , so if you think it's more convenient to use a
>> user-friendly adduser written in bash , you can do it yourself , but
>> before that you should know exactly how to create a new user without
>> useradd-like utilities
>>
> Hi,
>
> I just found a copy of "RHEL 5 Unleashed", and there's a very clear chapter
> about local user management, which explains Red Hat's specific use of
> 'useradd', especially default options.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niki
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Yeah , user management is the basis of system administration , read
the document carefully :)

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Re: [CentOS] adduser vs. useradd

[Niki Kovacs]

Thomas Iverson a écrit :

Hi there , you are almost right
adduser is only a symbol-link of the useradd in CentOS , for my
explanation , it may be security-related
you know , to use useradd , you can also specify the home dir,group
and so on , but script codes have danger
adduser under some distros such as archlinux,slackware is a
bash-script , so if you think it's more convenient to use a
user-friendly adduser written in bash , you can do it yourself , but
before that you should know exactly how to create a new user without
useradd-like utilities


Hi,

I just found a copy of "RHEL 5 Unleashed", and there's a very clear 
chapter about local user management, which explains Red Hat's specific 
use of 'useradd', especially default options.


Cheers,

Niki
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[CentOS] ntop from rpmforge

[John R Pierce]

I installed ntop on a centos5.2 system (which got all yum updates a few 
days ago)...


   # rpm -q ntop rrdtool
   ntop-3.3.8-1.el5.rf
   rrdtool-1.2.28-1.el5.rf

went through the password configuration

when I start it, its erroring.

# service ntop start
Starting ntop:Processing file /etc/ntop.conf for parameters...
Mon Nov 24 23:56:36 2008  NOTE: Interface merge enabled by default
Mon Nov 24 23:56:36 2008  Initializing gdbm databases
FATAL ERROR: Unrecognized/unprocessed ntop options...
--user ntop, 
--db-file-path 
/var/ntop, 


run ntop --help for usage information

   Common problems:
   -B "filter expressions" (quotes are required)
   --use-syslog=facilty (the = is required)

[FAILED]


ooops!   near as I can tell, tis getting those options from 
/etc/ntop.conf and I've done a bit of futzzing in there to try and sort 
it out but to no avail.


before I go and break things totally, what did I do wrong??

if I run ntop --daemon from the command prompt, it seems to work fine.

# ntop @/etc/ntop.conf --daemon
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  NOTE: Interface merge enabled by default
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Initializing gdbm databases
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  ntop v.3.3.8 (Dag Apt RPM Repository)
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Configured on Oct  6 2008  1:40:18, built on 
Oct  6 2008 01:41:15.

Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Copyright 1998-2007 by Luca Deri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Get the freshest ntop from http://www.ntop.org/
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  NOTE: ntop is running from 'ntop'
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  NOTE: (but see warning on man page for the 
--instance parameter)

Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  NOTE: ntop libraries are in '/usr/lib'
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Initializing ntop
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  No patterns to load: protocol guessing disabled.
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Checking eth0 for additional devices
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Resetting traffic statistics for device eth0
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Initializing device eth0 (0)
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  DLT: Device 0 [eth0] is 1, mtu 1514, header 14
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Initializing gdbm databases
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: Loading MAC address table.
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: Checking for MAC address table file
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: File '/etc/ntop/specialMAC.txt.gz' 
does not need to be reloaded

Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: ntop continues ok
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: Checking for MAC address table file
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: File '/etc/ntop/oui.txt.gz' does not 
need to be reloaded

Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  VENDOR: ntop continues ok
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Fingerprint: Loading signature file
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Fingerprint: Checking for Fingerprint file... file
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Fingerprint: Loading file 
'/etc/ntop/etter.finger.os.gz'

Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  Fingerprint: ...loaded 0 records
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  INIT: Parent process is exiting (this is normal)
Tue Nov 25 00:07:35 2008  INIT: Bye bye: I'm becoming a daemon...

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