Re: [CentOS] Yum-updatesd version in reports?

[partha chowdhury]

Amos Shapira wrote:

> But I don't see anywhere in its config or command line options a way to 
> find which package version was replaced by which.
> 

this is just my guess but as yum-updatesd uses yum so the log should be 
in the logfile directed by yum.conf namely /var/log/yum.log.
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Re: [CentOS] sa-compile on CentOS 4 SMP.

[nate]

Camron W. Fox wrote:
> Alle,
>
>   When we run sa-compile on a CentOS 4 distro (old hardware, Dual Celeron
> SMP), gcc only uses one CPU when compiling. Is there any way to use both
> processors, or is this a question for the SA list?

I think it's a question for the SA list, though doing some searches
I don't see any indication that sa-compile is capable of using more
than 1 cpu at a time. The code that's compiling has to be coded in
a way that makes it safe to build it in parallel. And last I checked
at least gcc by itself only used 1 CPU, you use multiple cpus by
splitting the workload up and running multiple gccs, typically
with make files and "make -j #".

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Remote control of a WinXP machine from a Linux host

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Remote control of a WinXP machine from a Linux host

[Les Mikesell]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Sorry for an off topic post, but a lot of you folks are sysadmins here or 
> there, and just might have a suggestion... ;-)
> 
> I have a WinXP machine that is to be unattended for a period of 3 years (yes, 
> I know, it sounds ridiculous, but still...). What I need is remote access to 
> it to perform regular system maintenance, virus cleanups, occasional software 
> installations, reboots, config changes, etc.
> 
> Of course, rdesktop would do it, or vnc server or something else. The problem 
> is that this machine is behind a NAT, and I cannot access it remotely from 
> outside (and I need access from whereever on the planet I may happen to be).
> 
> Basically, I need to setup some type of ssh tunnelling from XP (machine A) to 
> my static-IP-24/7-high-bandwidth-CentOS server (machine B) and then further 
> to my laptop (machine C, Fedora 10) located elsewhere (possibly behind 
> another NAT, I can't know in advance). I have root access for all three 
> machines (A, B and C). Of course, all three are on different LANs.
> 
> However, I have never done anything like this before, so I wonder what is the 
> best method of creating such a setup?

Set up an openvpn tunnel from the remote unattended machine to the 
centos box.  If you can set up port-forwarding on it's NAT router, you 
may be able to originate this connection either way.  If you can't, use 
a keep-alive setting on the natted side to make sure the connection 
stays active.  Then you can either do the same on the laptop with 
appropriate routing or you can run freenx on the Centos server and 
connect to it with the nomachine NX client on the laptop.  In the latter 
scenario you would run rdesktop or vncviewer on the Centos server but 
the display would be on the laptop.

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[CentOS] sa-compile on CentOS 4 SMP.

[Camron W. Fox]

Alle,

When we run sa-compile on a CentOS 4 distro (old hardware, Dual Celeron 
SMP), gcc only uses one CPU when compiling. Is there any way to use both 
processors, or is this a question for the SA list?

Best Regards,
Camron

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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Robert Nichols]

Scott Silva wrote:
> I thought the gaming industry used the IBM midrange equipment almost
> exclusively, or maybe that is only on their backend systems that actually
> control the machines.

FWIW, after a brief power failure at a local casino, I saw a Linux boot
sequence being displayed on the screens of a lot of slot machines.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Remote control of a WinXP machine from a Linux host

[Lanny Marcus]

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:
> Sorry for an off topic post, but a lot of you folks are >sysadmins here or
> there, and just might have a suggestion... ;-)
> I have a WinXP machine that is to be unattended for a >period of 3 years (yes,
> I know, it sounds ridiculous, but still...). What I need is >remote access to
> it to perform regular system maintenance, virus >cleanups, occasional software
> installations, reboots, config changes, etc.

We have 3 boxes with WinXP Home Edition on them. Two are dual boot,
with CentOS 5.2 (32 bit).  There is something in WinXP Home Edition,
to allow remote access. I assume the Professional version has it too.
Before you get more complex, I suggest that you read up on what that
permits you to do. Glad you do not need the box to  be up for 3 years,
without a reboot! :-)
Hopefully, the HW will not fail.. ...
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Remote control of a WinXP machine from a Linux host

[Tim Nelson]

OpenVPN.

Tim Nelson
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- "Marko Vojinovic"  wrote:

> Sorry for an off topic post, but a lot of you folks are sysadmins here
> or 
> there, and just might have a suggestion... ;-)
> 
> I have a WinXP machine that is to be unattended for a period of 3
> years (yes, 
> I know, it sounds ridiculous, but still...). What I need is remote
> access to 
> it to perform regular system maintenance, virus cleanups, occasional
> software 
> installations, reboots, config changes, etc.
> 
> Of course, rdesktop would do it, or vnc server or something else. The
> problem 
> is that this machine is behind a NAT, and I cannot access it remotely
> from 
> outside (and I need access from whereever on the planet I may happen
> to be).
> 
> Basically, I need to setup some type of ssh tunnelling from XP
> (machine A) to 
> my static-IP-24/7-high-bandwidth-CentOS server (machine B) and then
> further 
> to my laptop (machine C, Fedora 10) located elsewhere (possibly behind
> 
> another NAT, I can't know in advance). I have root access for all
> three 
> machines (A, B and C). Of course, all three are on different LANs.
> 
> However, I have never done anything like this before, so I wonder what
> is the 
> best method of creating such a setup?
> 
> One of my ideas was to make some script on A which would connect to B
> once 
> every 15 minutes or so, look for a flagfile, and if present, initiate
> 
> connection with C directly or through B if necessary. That means, if I
> want 
> access from C to A, I ssh from C to B and create a flagfile, wait 15
> minutes 
> or so, and a rdesktop (or vnc or other) appears on my laptop. In
> theory.
> 
> Or is there some other XP-tool that might do what I want out of the
> box? 
> However, it need be absolutely automatic, there will be nobody around
> to do 
> anything locally on A once I leave it.
> 
> Another idea I had was to have machine A running as a virtual machine
> on a 
> CentOS host (vmware or such would suffice). Then I could easily
> configure the 
> above A-to-B-to-C scenario, shutdown the virtual A, pull its hard disk
> file 
> to C, start it locally, perform maintenance, push it back to host A
> and run 
> it again as a vm. But this is highly complicated, takes too much time
> and 
> bandwidth, so I hope something simpler is available.
> 
> Yet another idea is to ask A's ISP to provide a static IP for that
> machine, or 
> to forward some available port to A, which could be used by rdesktop
> in some 
> customized fashion. But the ISP may refuse such requests, and I need a
> robust 
> solution.
> 
> Yet even another idea is to put another CentOS machine (D) between A
> and A's 
> ISP (create a local LAN). Then initiate ssh -X connection from C to D
> 
> (somehow, via flagfile scenario or such), and then rdesktop from D to
> A over 
> a local LAN.
> 
> The main problem is NAT, if machine A had a world-accessible IP, I
> would just 
> rdesktop from C to A, but alas, it doesn't... :-(
> 
> Any suggestions about the best way of doing this?
> 
> Thanks, :-)
> Marko
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[CentOS] [OT] Remote control of a WinXP machine from a Linux host

[Marko Vojinovic]

Sorry for an off topic post, but a lot of you folks are sysadmins here or 
there, and just might have a suggestion... ;-)

I have a WinXP machine that is to be unattended for a period of 3 years (yes, 
I know, it sounds ridiculous, but still...). What I need is remote access to 
it to perform regular system maintenance, virus cleanups, occasional software 
installations, reboots, config changes, etc.

Of course, rdesktop would do it, or vnc server or something else. The problem 
is that this machine is behind a NAT, and I cannot access it remotely from 
outside (and I need access from whereever on the planet I may happen to be).

Basically, I need to setup some type of ssh tunnelling from XP (machine A) to 
my static-IP-24/7-high-bandwidth-CentOS server (machine B) and then further 
to my laptop (machine C, Fedora 10) located elsewhere (possibly behind 
another NAT, I can't know in advance). I have root access for all three 
machines (A, B and C). Of course, all three are on different LANs.

However, I have never done anything like this before, so I wonder what is the 
best method of creating such a setup?

One of my ideas was to make some script on A which would connect to B once 
every 15 minutes or so, look for a flagfile, and if present, initiate 
connection with C directly or through B if necessary. That means, if I want 
access from C to A, I ssh from C to B and create a flagfile, wait 15 minutes 
or so, and a rdesktop (or vnc or other) appears on my laptop. In theory.

Or is there some other XP-tool that might do what I want out of the box? 
However, it need be absolutely automatic, there will be nobody around to do 
anything locally on A once I leave it.

Another idea I had was to have machine A running as a virtual machine on a 
CentOS host (vmware or such would suffice). Then I could easily configure the 
above A-to-B-to-C scenario, shutdown the virtual A, pull its hard disk file 
to C, start it locally, perform maintenance, push it back to host A and run 
it again as a vm. But this is highly complicated, takes too much time and 
bandwidth, so I hope something simpler is available.

Yet another idea is to ask A's ISP to provide a static IP for that machine, or 
to forward some available port to A, which could be used by rdesktop in some 
customized fashion. But the ISP may refuse such requests, and I need a robust 
solution.

Yet even another idea is to put another CentOS machine (D) between A and A's 
ISP (create a local LAN). Then initiate ssh -X connection from C to D 
(somehow, via flagfile scenario or such), and then rdesktop from D to A over 
a local LAN.

The main problem is NAT, if machine A had a world-accessible IP, I would just 
rdesktop from C to A, but alas, it doesn't... :-(

Any suggestions about the best way of doing this?

Thanks, :-)
Marko

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[CentOS] Yum-updatesd version in reports?

[Amos Shapira]

Hi,

I've just startted configuring yum-updatesd on all our servers to install 
updates automatically and it works great.

But I don't see anywhere in its config or command line options a way to 
find which package version was replaced by which.

Is this achieveable in any way or should I resort to some home-grown 
scripting again?

Thanks.

-Amos
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Re: [CentOS] system-config-securitylevel-tui keeps adding port 88:tcp

[Joseph L. Casale]

>I was running apache on it with it set to 88, but it has
>since been moved back to 80.

Since the box is a member of an ADS site, the Kerberos threw me, it
took the 88 we entered, and I forgot the tui converts your numerical
entry to the text equivalent.

Sorry for the noise...

jlc
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[CentOS] system-config-securitylevel-tui keeps adding port 88:tcp

[Joseph L. Casale]

When I run this, I have ssh,http checked and have added Kerberos and squid 
manually
below, but when I save it I still get a port 88:tcp added to the 
/etc/sysconfig/iptables
file?

What can I use to track what is forcing it to get added? The box is a current
CentOS 5x86 server. I was running apache on it with it set to 88, but it has
since been moved back to 80.

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Les Mikesell]

Bo Lynch wrote:
> 
> We really do not use an email client here. We try to keep everything web
> based  as much as possible. So interfacing with a email client such as
> outlook really isn't that important to me. The web interface is what I'm
> interested in.

Have you looked at the SME server disto from http://www.contribs.org? 
It installs as an appliance-like setup managed through a simple web 
interface.  The code is mostly centos and includes hoard webmail running 
over dovecot with maildir storage out of the box.  It doesn't have a 
shared calendar or other groupware components in the base setup and it 
is somewhat difficult to modify the already-customized configuration but 
there are a number of contributed add-ons that might provide them. 
Unfortunately the site seems to be down for maintenance right now so I 
can't check on them.  Anyway, for a few hundred people, the setup really 
is as simple as answering a few questions and adding the users and it 
can also provide file/print/web/vpn services.

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Re: [CentOS] totem-xine

[A. Kirillov]

> >>> Awhile ago I've tried to rebuild fc6 totem-xine in mock
> >>> but stopped short due to a large number of dependencies
> >>> as I wasn't sure of the result.
> >> livna for FC6 is the totem-xine I'm using, I built all the dependencies 
> >> from Fedora/livna that were not in the centos/epel repos.
> >>
> >> I actually have to rebuild my totem-xine at some point (before 5.3) 
> >> because apparently some epel shared libs have versioned (arghh) so I 
> >> can't do a full yum update without an exclude on the EPEL libs that 
> >> versioned.
> > 
> If you have any problems building the deps - let me know.
> I may have needed to modify some of the spec files slightly, I don't 
> remember, but I still have them all.

Hi Michael,

Finally I got it working but had to skip some packages
which didn't build, at least on 64-bit CentOS:
mozilla plugin
xmms plugin
mp3x

Could you successfully build totem-xine-mozplugin for firefox-3?
I've changed firefox-devel to xulrunner-devel in totem-xine.spec
but got the following error:
configure: WARNING: No gecko found, disabling plugin

It isn't that I care about rhythmbox much but
it doesn't work either though totem can play
mp3s with no problem.

Thanks for your help,
Sasha


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[CentOS] restraint; was: Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?[SOLVED]

[R P Herrold]

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Warren, Eucke wrote:

> ... To suggest a "shaming" only makes the Centos community 
> look bad as it would be done so without understanding the 
> entire environment and situation.

Thank you for the restrained reply, Eucke

Wearing my '@centos.org' hat, let me add that I strongly 
concur to the effect that 'shaming' on a mailing list is 
probably not something to encourage; advising as to better 
practice, or better, simply staying still if one has nothing 
new to add are often fine responses to some posts.

We have a place to use social pressure toward education and 
growth as a sysadmin, in the ground rules of avoiding 
'spoonfeeding' in the #centos IRC channel, and that's about 
all; we have not had inquiries there yet about 'baby mulching 
machines or atomic bombs' [1], but I suppose we would answer 
the centos 'on topic' part.  We would send the off topic away, 
either to #centos-social (if it looked like we conld amuse 
that channel), or to a more appropirate venue for remaining 
off topic matter.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> >>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?

Yes, Horde doesn't care what the SMTP provider is so long as it works.

> >> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
> >> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)
> >> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)

Yep.

> > We currently use dovecot. Any issues that you know of?

No issues.

> Hm. I use dovecot, too, on my private mailserver - but I don't have a
> webmail setup there, because I use IMAP exclusively.
> I always wanted to try IMP/DIMP again, but never really got around to
> install and configure it.

We use Horde/IMP (and testing DIMP) to provide web mail to our low-end
users.  Horde is great stuff, works across browsers well, is stable, and
deals with every tortured mail message (including ones that wig out
either Thunderbird [not really very hard to do :(] or Outlook].  For
groupware we use OpenGroupware,  and Horde is very easy to integrate
into almost anything.

> I know one ISP here, that tried to use IMP and it performed very bad.

They set it up wrong.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 13:15 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Bill Campbell wrote:
> > ...
> >> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
> >> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
> >> source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
> >> using it and have to migrate to something else.
> > 
> > The thing I would be concerned about is the future of Yahoo.  If
> > it is finally absorbed by the Borg of Redmond, history says that
> > anything that competes with Windows will be dropped.
> 
> But that era may be over if MS now wants to compete with Google...

Exchange is a Microsoft cash cow - if they were to buy Yahoo (which
Balmer says isn't going to happen), Zimbra would be folded up - there's
not a chance in the world that they would sell it off.

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Les Mikesell]

Bill Campbell wrote:
> ...
>> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
>> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
>> source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
>> using it and have to migrate to something else.
> 
> The thing I would be concerned about is the future of Yahoo.  If
> it is finally absorbed by the Borg of Redmond, history says that
> anything that competes with Windows will be dropped.

But that era may be over if MS now wants to compete with Google...

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Re: [CentOS] AACRAID monitoring

[Fabian Arrotin]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> Does Centos include any runtime monitor/control software for raid arrays 
>   on AACRAID devices as on IBM 3650's?
> 

Usually i use the ServeRAID adapter (8K for such x3650 model) that use 
the ipssend (cli) or Serveraid manager (agent/gui) or even IBM director, 
depending on the number of servers to be monitored
IIRC the embedded SAS aacraid (aka Serveraid 8i) (poor)raid1 card can be 
monitored with arcconf/hrconf (don't remember exactly which one but you 
can find that on the IBM support website)

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[CentOS] AACRAID monitoring

[Les Mikesell]

Does Centos include any runtime monitor/control software for raid arrays 
  on AACRAID devices as on IBM 3650's?

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bazooka Joe]

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Max Hetrick  wrote:
> René Standfest wrote:
>
>> We have running at the moment eGroupWare, but we plan to migrate to SOGo
>> (http://sogo.opengroupware.org) in the next two months (we had some annoying
>> problems with eGW in the past). It has a really cool Webfrontend (looks like
>> Thunderbird with Lightning) and has a really functional CalDAV-Interface 
>> which
>> integrates perfectly into Thunderbird/Lightning.
>> On the Website is a really good Install-Howto and it has even a yum repo.
>
> Thank you for mentioning sogo. I took a look at this project today, and
> will be adding it to the list of packages I'm testing. When researching
> groupware packages before, this project didn't turn up, but am glad you
> brought it up here. It looks promising and worth a look!
>


I opted for Kolab http://www.kolab.org/ over Zimbra.  You can have
unlimited users in Kolab.  My users wanted to use outlook as the
client - Zimbra charges quite a bit for that feature.  With Kolab you
buy a $10 outlook connector for each computer. Most other mail clients
are free to use with Kolab.

No package for cent but that is a good thing.  It compiles everything
it needs using openpkg. I have installed it on cent several times
while testing.  Just about to take my first installation live.

-bazooka
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Ricardo Carrillo]

Only was a reference for groupware names, you have to search into
software repositories like freshmeat as well sourceforge.

2009/1/9 Adam Tauno Williams :
> On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote:
>> maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html.
>
> Nothing on that list has been updated since 2004!  If you want to do
> searching use a mainstream site like 
> (although many projects, including ours [OpenGroupware] do a lousy job
> of keeping their entries up to date).
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Scott Silva]

on 1-9-2009 9:23 AM Bill Campbell spake the following:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote:
> ...
>> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
>> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
>> source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
>> using it and have to migrate to something else.
> 
> The thing I would be concerned about is the future of Yahoo.  If
> it is finally absorbed by the Borg of Redmond, history says that
> anything that competes with Windows will be dropped.
> 
> Bill
You never know with them. But they have been making big reaches into the SAAS
model. I guess it is easier to charge monthly instead of depending on the "buy
a new version every few years" model they currently have.

If they could use it as the backend for hotmail, they could go against their
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Scott Silva]

on 1-9-2009 8:21 AM Bo Lynch spake the following:
> On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote:
>> Bo Lynch schrieb:
>>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?
>>>
>>>
>> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
>> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)
>>
>> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)
>>
>>
>> Rainer
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> We currently use dovecot. Any issues that you know of?
> 
> Bo
I am running the latest horde webmail edition as a test and it seems to run
great with dovecot. But you should install it on CentOS 5 because you get some
errors on the older PHP in CentOS 4.

I just dl'd the tarball and expanded it below the webroot and followed the
INSTALL docs.


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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 11:29 -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote:
> maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html.

Nothing on that list has been updated since 2004!  If you want to do
searching use a mainstream site like 
(although many projects, including ours [OpenGroupware] do a lousy job
of keeping their entries up to date).

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Ricardo Carrillo]

maybe can look at http://nexist.sourceforge.net/groupware.html.
cheers

2009/1/7 Bo Lynch :
> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.
>
> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware
> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using
> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any
> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you
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> Energy Manager
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bill Campbell]

On Fri, Jan 09, 2009, Bo Lynch wrote:
...
>
>Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
>in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
>source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
>using it and have to migrate to something else.

The thing I would be concerned about is the future of Yahoo.  If
it is finally absorbed by the Borg of Redmond, history says that
anything that competes with Windows will be dropped.

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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0003 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 xen
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0003 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0003.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
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x86_64:
34b48a2c1f0c9f634a8fe132de3592ce  xen-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.x86_64.rpm
6c1d8f3a1fb06319090234b6877e4e87  xen-devel-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.i386.rpm
171754474b12358b2efa4e90c2fdd872  xen-devel-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.x86_64.rpm
c58299cdda63221a1f795442d60c944d  xen-libs-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.i386.rpm
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Source:
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0003 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 xen
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0003 Moderate

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0003.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
c926211dfbb52c38e607ff0dad77e62a  xen-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.i386.rpm
60d0b3ed8fc59cd7d6da6b774a446615  xen-devel-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.i386.rpm
e63500587e9914780dd7703b1e625086  xen-libs-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.i386.rpm

Source:
8e3f808b56c2b2791fe31bd07a26c133  xen-3.0.3-64.el5_2.9.src.rpm


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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 5 x86_64
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0004 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0004.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
157a0bf2b3cbd09c2b1c8ff75ea7bcc8  openssl-0.9.8b-10.el5_2.1.i686.rpm

Source:
6634cee057a79b25c197d151bc9a9bf7  openssl-0.9.8b-10.el5_2.1.src.rpm


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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:0004 Important CentOS 5 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:0004 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-0004.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
157a0bf2b3cbd09c2b1c8ff75ea7bcc8  openssl-0.9.8b-10.el5_2.1.i686.rpm

Source:
6634cee057a79b25c197d151bc9a9bf7  openssl-0.9.8b-10.el5_2.1.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Rainer Duffner]

Bo Lynch schrieb:
> On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote:
>   
>> Bo Lynch schrieb:
>> 
>>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
>> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)
>>
>> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)
>>
>>
>> Rainer
>> ___
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>
> We currently use dovecot. Any issues that you know of?
>
>   


Hm. I use dovecot, too, on my private mailserver - but I don't have a
webmail setup there, because I use IMAP exclusively.
I always wanted to try IMP/DIMP again, but never really got around to
install and configure it.

Dovecot is very fast, so IMP should perform well.
When you want to continue using your current mail-platform (which is
reasonable), you will have to find something that integrates well with it.
OpenXchange can do that, but it will need to integrate into your
provisioning-infrastructure. It's not a drop-in replacement (nothing is,
once it's sufficiently complicated).

I know one ISP here, that tried to use IMP and it performed very bad.
They went with OpenXchange in the end - but they have lot's more users
than you ;-)



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Re: [CentOS] upgrade question.

[Robert Nichols]

Brian wrote:
>  
>I've did some googling and have not came up with and answer yet. Is 
> there
> a list of packages that after update require a reboot, other then kernel?

That is a difficult question, and the answer depends on how certain you
need to be that no running process is still using the old version.  For
system daemons, a restart is typically done in the post-install script,
provided that can be done non-disruptively.  Long-running user processes
(shells, browsers, mail readers, etc., etc.) will still be using the old
versions of executables, libraries, and other resources until the user
terminates the process or logs out.  Library updates in particular are
a big problem because there is no reliable way to know whether the (now
unlinked) old version is still in use.  For a lot of files, "lsof |
egrep 'DEL|deleted'" will show deleted versions still in use, but
libraries in particular are typically mmap()ed and closed, so lsof
won't pick them up even though they are still in use.

For updates other than the kernel, there is almost always an answer
short of a full reboot.  But, finding that answer and being 100%
certain that it is a complete answer can be a challenge, and is,
say, bringing the system down to single-user mode momentarily all
that much better than simply rebooting?

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Bo Lynch schrieb:
>>
>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?
>>
>>
>
> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)
>
> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)
>
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Rainer Duffner]

Bo Lynch schrieb:
>
> Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
> in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
> source model.

The chance is always there.
I come from the BSD-world, where this is happening regularly (or
actually designed to happen).

Think about it: if outside contributions are minimal and lot's of people
offer services around the product without some sort of revenue-sharing,
the product will die one way or the other.
This is what happened with Nessus.
Zimbra is way too complicated to survive as a "pure"
non-company-sponsored GPL OSS-project.
It's in the same league  as OpenOffice IMO. Do you think OO would exist
without SUN sponsoring most of the devs around the main project?

In the BSD-world, it's a "valid" business-model to create some "fork" of
a technology, commercialize it and later release most of it back into
the tree.
Even in GNU-land, you have more and more GPL-products with proprietary
extensions for paying customers.

What I want to say is: I believe Zimbra chose their license not because
they wanted to cheat, but because they actually wanted to be able to
keep stuff open-source while at the same time ensuring the company's
commercial viability.

>  Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
> using it and have to migrate to something else.
>   

Well, that's your choice.
AFAIK, apache also has a BSD-style license that would allow it to keep
the source for themselves - doesn't stop you (or most everyone) from
using it, I assume...

What happens to a product over one, two or three or more years is
anyone's guess.
Certainly, yahoo + zimbra have plans (that they don't want to share with
us, most likely) - but wether these plans can actually be put into
working is another question.

Release 5.0.x is out now and will be supported for quite some time.
Release 6.0 will arrive sometime next year. No change in license is
visible for it now.

I think Zimbra has always been profitable as a company, at least before
the Yahoo! acquisition.
If this continues, I don't see Yahoo making lot's of changes. (Well, in
an ideal world...)



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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Fri, January 9, 2009 11:31 am, Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Bo Lynch schrieb:
>>
>> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?
>>
>>
>
> Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
> /usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)
>
> What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)
>
>
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We currently use dovecot. Any issues that you know of?

Bo


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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Rainer Duffner]

Bo Lynch schrieb:
>
> Can you use postfix with horde/imp?
>
>   

Well, postfix is just a MTA. IMP will use localhost:25 or
/usr/lib/sendmail to send mail ;-)

What's more interesting is the choice of IMAP-server ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Wed, January 7, 2009 7:19 pm, Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:54 -0500, Bo Lynch wrote:
>
>>
>> So are you required to run zimbras release of these packages?
>>
>> If you are forced to use them then how delayed are the releases.
>> Are you able to use something other than amavis and clam for scanning??
>> We
>> use a product called VAMS released by central command for spam and
>> antivirus on our mail server currently. These guys are very generous
>> with
>> pricing when it comes to educational facilities in case anyone is
>> looking.
> 
> zimbra is pretty much of a closed box in that they have already decided
> what / how / where you will run stuff and no, you can't run anything
> other than the way they have decided it unless you decide to put a box
> in front of the zimbra server to receive mail first before you pass it
> to the zimbra box.
>
> zimbra is also not a lightweight system by any means.
>
> There are a lot of schools running Horde/IMP/etc.
>
> Craig
>

Can you use postfix with horde/imp?


Bo


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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo

[David Hrbáč]

Vandaman napsal(a):
> I would guess what was said by Dag here 
> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070168.html
> applies here as well?

Not for everyone, as we tests kernels intensively and on a large volume
of machines, web need easy way. So yum repo is the point, not mentioning
we can't and we even do not want to redistribute RH's rpms.
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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo

[Karanbir Singh]

David Hrbáč wrote:
> RH devel kernel from http://people.redhat.com/vgoyal/rhel4 and built
> against Centos tree are available here:
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/x86_64/repodata/
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/i386/repodata/
> 

I dont see the point in building those kernels against the centos base - 
what are you hoping to achieve with that ?

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Re: [CentOS] yum update nfs

[Lanny Marcus]

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Agile Aspect  wrote:
> Hi - when I'm running CentOS 4.4, and I run the
> command
>
>yum update nfs
>
> which version of NFS do I get - the version for
> CentOS 4.4,  or the version for CentOS 4.7
> (which I presume is the latest release)?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

I believe you always get the latest release and  if you "yum update",
your box would be updated, from 4.4 to 4.7
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[CentOS] Programming ressources

[Guy Boisvert]

Hi!

It may be a little OT but i'm searching for a c/c++ programmer for the 
development of a remote controlled multimedia player that would run 
under CentOS with Aja OEM card.  We'd use this player in our fully 
automatic TV broadcast system.

We currently have a player (developed in house) that works mostly ok on 
Winblows but it lacks many features like remote monitoring (SNMP or 
something like that), fault management, etc.  The code is not documented 
and there are problems migrating from Stradis SDM-275 card to SDM-290, 
from Win2000 to XP, etc.

I was thinking that their should be programmers on the CentOS mailing 
list.  Sorry if i bother other list members with my request.

We are based in Montréal, Province of Quebec, Canada.  Frankly, we have 
to find a Winblows programmer first to evaluate the documentationless 
code we have for our current player.  With the obligation to go digital 
and the fact that we may even have to go HD, we'll want to go Linux and 
get an ultra-stable platform.

It would be nice to evaluate if something like VLC or MPLayer could 
provide the functionality we want too.

If there is some project/job/project site, please let me know.

Please respond offlist.  I'll make a resumé of what i found for the 
list if there is interest for that.


Regards,


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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?[SOLVED]

[Warren, Eucke]

I appreciate the input on this question from those who have made
suggestions.  As the unofficial "fix" for %post does not change the
target build (as the anaconda rpms are untouched) I will move in that
direction.  Those of you speculating will have to accept that there is
much I cannot share and much of which you do not know about the systems
and target environment. To suggest a "shaming" only makes the Centos
community look bad as it would be done so without understanding the
entire environment and situation.  Thank you.


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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo

[Vandaman]

David Hrbáč wrote:

> RH devel kernel from http://people.redhat.com/vgoyal/rhel4
> and built
> against Centos tree are available here:
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/x86_64/repodata/
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/i386/repodata/
> 

I would guess what was said by Dag here 
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-January/070168.html
applies here as well?

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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Vandaman]

Per Qvindesland  wrote:

> If you want a official fix then get your self a redhat
> license, nothing
> wrong with the excellent help that one can get from this
> list but by
> supporting redhat you also in my eyes support centos.
> 
> The only thing that I have noticed with RH support is that
> they are actually
> slower to release a fix or to come up with a fix then
> Centos, we have quite
> a few centos servers where I work and this was the reason
> for why we lowered
> our licenses to redhat and migrated some servers to Centos.
> 

You might want to read up on why top-posting is disallowed on
many mailing lists. Even after sending you a polite offlist 
reminder and a link to the guidelines you are still top-posting.

With regard to your wrong claim that "upstream support is slower
to release a fix than CentOS" I would ask you the following simple 
question :-

1. What is CentOS and where does it come from?
2. Which fix is this that CentOS released before upstream?

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Re: [CentOS] RH devel kernels for Centos repo

[David Hrbáč]

David Hrbáč napsal(a):
> Hi,
> RH devel kernels from http://people.redhat.com/dzickus/el5/ built
> against Centos tree are available here:
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb-kernel/stable/x86_64/repodata/
> http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el5/hrb-kernel/stable/i386/repodata/
> Regards,
> David Hrbáč

RH devel kernel from http://people.redhat.com/vgoyal/rhel4 and built
against Centos tree are available here:
http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/x86_64/repodata/
http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb-kernel/stable/i386/repodata/

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Fri, January 9, 2009 10:07 am, Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Bo Lynch schrieb:
>> On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
>>
>>> Bo Lynch wrote:
>>>
 Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.

 We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware
 style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are
 using
 Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any
 recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 Thank you

>>> I would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users,
>>> but it does run nicely on CentOS.
>>> Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.
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>> We really do not use an email client here. We try to keep everything web
>> based  as much as possible. So interfacing with a email client such as
>> outlook really isn't that important to me. The web interface is what I'm
>> interested in.
>> Bo
>>
>>
>
>
> Hm. Zimbra does _that_ very well IMO. Supports IE+FF+Safari, at least
> for the webmail-stuff.
>
> I'm not sure if the Open-Source version actually supports the
> Outlook-stuff (we use the commercial version and I don't use Outlook
> anyway...).
>
> I'd give Zimbra a try. It's relatively easy to setup, at least for a
> demo-case where you are not interested in customizing all the logos.
>
>
>
>
> Rainer
>
>
> 

Should I be concerned with the Licensing structure down the road? Meaning
in your opinion do you think that zimbra will close its door on the open
source model. Just don't want to demo something get everyone excited about
using it and have to migrate to something else.


Bo


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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Andrew Cotter]

 
> 
> Hm. Zimbra does _that_ very well IMO. Supports IE+FF+Safari, 
> at least for the webmail-stuff.
> 
> I'm not sure if the Open-Source version actually supports the 
> Outlook-stuff (we use the commercial version and I don't use 
> Outlook anyway...).
> 
> I'd give Zimbra a try. It's relatively easy to setup, at 
> least for a demo-case where you are not interested in 
> customizing all the logos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rainer
> 

One thing I have found interesting with Zimbra is that you can use their
open source community edition and then get the outlook connector as an
add-on for the users you want/need.  We have a full licensed version due to
the request to keep using outlook from most people.  I would say their web
based client is very good, but others are good too.  We looked at Scalix and
found it a little more complicated and complex than we were comfortable with
going with.  Having components that I was familiar with from prior
experience in the linux world was a big help vs learning new.

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Rainer Duffner]

Bo Lynch schrieb:
> On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
>   
>> Bo Lynch wrote:
>> 
>>> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.
>>>
>>> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware
>>> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using
>>> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any
>>> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thank you
>>>   
>> I would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users,
>> but it does run nicely on CentOS.
>> Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.
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> We really do not use an email client here. We try to keep everything web
> based  as much as possible. So interfacing with a email client such as
> outlook really isn't that important to me. The web interface is what I'm
> interested in.
> Bo
>
>   


Hm. Zimbra does _that_ very well IMO. Supports IE+FF+Safari, at least
for the webmail-stuff.

I'm not sure if the Open-Source version actually supports the
Outlook-stuff (we use the commercial version and I don't use Outlook
anyway...).

I'd give Zimbra a try. It's relatively easy to setup, at least for a
demo-case where you are not interested in customizing all the logos.




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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Bo Lynch]

On Fri, January 9, 2009 6:23 am, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
> Bo Lynch wrote:
>> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.
>>
>> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware
>> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using
>> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any
>> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you
> I would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users,
> but it does run nicely on CentOS.
> Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.
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We really do not use an email client here. We try to keep everything web
based  as much as possible. So interfacing with a email client such as
outlook really isn't that important to me. The web interface is what I'm
interested in.
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Ross Walker]

On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:35 PM, "Warren, Eucke"  wrote:

> Lanny Marcus Wrote:
>> Does that mean that your Legal Department does not permit you  to
> upgrade your box, to get the latest packages,
>> issued for Security & Stability reasons? 5.1, as you are well aware,
> is not the latest and greatest.
>
> That is correct.  What they approve is based on the contents of the  
> DVD
> or CD for a particular version at the time of initial release.  The
> governmental regulatory framework in which we work is what drives the
> requirements.  I am well aware that 5.1 is not the latest, greatest,
> current or anything else of that matter.

Is your legal group aware that your company/agency has opened itself  
up to the risks of litigation in the event any customer or emloyee  
information is stolen due to negligent security practices?

Failure to apply the provided security patches for an OS is considered  
negligent.

This applies to internal security breaches as well as external.

I seriously doubt your legal group understands the regulatory issues  
properly.

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Re: [CentOS] Cleaning up an RPM repository.

[Friedrich Clausen]

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Alain PORTAL
 wrote:
> Le mercredi 7 janvier 2009 à 16:44, William L. Maltby a écrit :
>> rpm --erase  and run it.
>
> This rpm command erase an installed package, not a file in a directory.
>
> Regards
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Just to update you guys - the manage repo script seems to work as
advertised. Great stuff!

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Kai Schaetzl]

Kevin Thorpe wrote on Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:23:16 +:

> Scalix

and just to name the third of the "big three": OpenXchange.

Kai

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[CentOS] upgrade question.

[Brian]

 
   I've did some googling and have not came up with and answer yet. Is 
there
a list of packages that after update require a reboot, other then kernel?

TIA
Brian

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Re: [CentOS] Email/GroupWare Suite

[Kevin Thorpe]

Bo Lynch wrote:
> Just wanted to get some thoughts from the list.
>
> We are a public k-12 school and are looking to migrate to a groupware
> style system for out staff to collaborate better. Currently we are using
> Squirrelmail/postfix for email. Does anyone have any
> recommendations/opinions. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you
I would stick in a suggestion to look at Scalix. Not free at 300 users, 
but it does run nicely on CentOS.
Integrates well with Outlook and has a very nice webmail front end.
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[John R Pierce]

Vandaman wrote:
> What company is this that doesn't wan't to pay for a support 
> contract for RHEL but insists on using CentOS but requires 
> "official fixes" only?
>
> 1. Can you name and shame this comapany it will make good reading 
> on teh web.


a casino gaming machine manufacturer.   their website has the same 
domain as his email address.  video slot machines.  poker machines.   etc.


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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Per Qvindesland]

If you want a official fix then get your self a redhat license, nothing
wrong with the excellent help that one can get from this list but by
supporting redhat you also in my eyes support centos.

The only thing that I have noticed with RH support is that they are actually
slower to release a fix or to come up with a fix then Centos, we have quite
a few centos servers where I work and this was the reason for why we lowered
our licenses to redhat and migrated some servers to Centos.

Per


On 1/9/09 10:04 AM, "Vandaman"  wrote:

> Warren, Eucke wrote:
> 
>> I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that
>> shortly.  I am,
>> however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal
>> department that may
>> not welcome a "fix" that's not
>> "official".  So I have two questions:
>> 
>> 1) Is there an "official" or "accepted"
>> way to inquire about the status
>> of an open bug?
>> 2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to
>> be fixed
>> upstream so it filters down to centos?
>> 
> 
> What company is this that doesn't wan't to pay for a support
> contract for RHEL but insists on using CentOS but requires
> "official fixes" only?
> 
> 1. Can you name and shame this comapany it will make good reading
> on teh web.
> 2. Consider paying for RHEL so that you can actually get
> "official support" and can raise support tickets.
> 3. You probably don't understand what CentOS is or who is supposed
> to use it.
> 
> 
> Regards, 
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Re: [CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

[Vandaman]

Warren, Eucke wrote:

> I do see the manual fix for it and will be testing that
> shortly.  I am,
> however, dealing with a fairly rigid internal legal
> department that may
> not welcome a "fix" that's not
> "official".  So I have two questions:
> 
> 1) Is there an "official" or "accepted"
> way to inquire about the status
> of an open bug?
> 2) With regard to bug 0002329 is this something that has to
> be fixed
> upstream so it filters down to centos?
> 

What company is this that doesn't wan't to pay for a support 
contract for RHEL but insists on using CentOS but requires 
"official fixes" only?

1. Can you name and shame this comapany it will make good reading 
on teh web.
2. Consider paying for RHEL so that you can actually get 
"official support" and can raise support tickets.
3. You probably don't understand what CentOS is or who is supposed 
to use it.


Regards, 
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