Re: [CentOS-docs] new wiki article: How to repair a software RAID5 volume with more than one failed disk

2009-11-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Lev Shamardin shamar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 So, would you place a link?

Oh, ooops. Yeah, done.

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen runlevels 5.3 vs. 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the end, the important question is Do you run at Runlevel 2?
 Runlevel 2 and 4 are rarely used and each has different site
 definitions of what its being used for. Some sites use runlevel2 as
 multi-user/no-network, and other sites use it for multi-user/debugging
 (eg runlevel 3 but some changes to see what might have broken when we
 turned on X). Runlevel 4 is similarly used (eg its up to a site to
 define how they want to use it). I think Red Hat normally defines
 their runlevel 2 as multi-user/no-network which would mean xendomains
 should be off... however its probably

a reset of a wireless modem and all things work better. that sentance
should be: however its up to you in the end.

sorry about that.



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Re: [CentOS-es] Asterisk en Centos

2009-11-16 Thread Jose R. Lara
Incluso en la pagina de elastix.org hay un script llamada Centos to elastix, si 
quieres lo puedes probar.

 

Un cordial saludo,

 

 

From: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] On 
Behalf Of Krlos
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:26 PM
To: centos-es@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Asterisk en Centos

 


Daniel,

 

Hace ya un tiempo asistí a una conferencia sobre VoIP en Linux y el tema era 
sobre un software alternativo a Asterisk, se llama FreeSwitch y según el 
expositor es mejor que Asterisk en varios aspectos.

 

Échale una ojeada aquí:

http://www.freeswitch.org/

 

y existe un blog que al menos me parece bueno:

http://www.freeswitch.es/

 

Salu2

 

Krlos

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escribió:


De: Daniel Ninacondor Narvaez danielnn_...@hotmail.com
Asunto: [CentOS-es] Asterisk en Centos
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Fecha: Viernes 13 de Noviembre de 2009, 17:03

Hola amigos listeros, espero me puedan ayudar. El hecho es que necesito 
utilizar las comunicaciones basadas en voz – IP y he pensado en Asterisk, tengo 
una maquina recién instalada con Centos 4.5 (ahora no se si esta versión de 
Centos es la adecuado para lo que pretendo o ¿sugieren otra? ). Si tuvieran la 
información espero me la proporcionen. 

 

Gracias de adelantadamente Amigos.

 

Atte.

DanielNN



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Re: [CentOS-es] Backuppc en Centos 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Ernesto Celis
El 16 de noviembre de 2009 09:06, Fabricio Palacios V. 
fpalac...@puntonet.ec escribió:

 Buenos dias colegas,


 Debido a los cortes de luz en mi país se han perdido muchos datos en las
 maquinas que se han dañado, por lo que estoy tratando de implementar un
 sistema de backups de mis clientes Windows, al momento ya tengo instalado
 backuppc ... documentación en español hay poco o casi nada, ahora la
 pregunta del millón... ya lo tengo instalado y ahora como funciona???


backuppc no es un paquete soportado por CentOS, sin embargo estoy seguro que
si alguien aquí lo usa, con gusto te ayudará. Por lo pronto puedo decirte
que en CentOS se incluye Amanda que es también software para respaldos y se
adapta bien para lo que quieres.

Desafortunadamente el artículo en la wiki en español esta desactualizado,
pero una búsqueda en google con las palabras amanda en centos regresa
varios resultados en español.


 Gracias A todos por sus sugerencias


Te sugiero aprender ingles, ese lenguaje es *básico* en este negocio.



 Max,


Saludos
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Re: [CentOS] PHP Add-on

2009-11-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote on Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:21:58 +0700:

 I want to install Magento

Read the Magento PHP version requirements first.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with Yum on CentOS 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 15.11.09 08:29, schrieb Niki Kovacs:

 After a fresh install of the base system, first thing I do is 'yum 
 update' with the default setup... only this time, nothing happens. I 
 stays about a minute or two on 'Determining fastest mirror'... and then 
 tells me :
 
 Could not retrieve mirrorlist...

So can you get a mirrorlist by hand? Can you reach the
mirrorlist.centos.org server? Are you behind a proxy?

See CentOS-Base.repo for the mirrorhost url and replace $arch with your
architecture and $releasever with 5 ...

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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread mark
Jim Perrin wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Victor Subervi victorsube...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi;
 I've learned how to add a user and change the root dir of vsftpd (which of
 course is undocumented). Now I need to learn how to make it so that a given
 user can only access his/her folder (within the root dir). Please advise.
 
 Please stop being rude to the members of this list.
 
 This list is for people who are having trouble accomplishing a set
 task or have a question. It is not a 'system administration by proxy'
 tool because you can't be bothered to try on your own, or are to
 busy/lazy to read the documentation.
 
When I started with Ameritech, in the mid-nineties, within two weeks my 
managers asked me to be the sysadmin. I'd worked in Unix for about four years, 
but had never done admin before. I went out and bought Frisch's Essential 
Systems Administration, and for the next year, along with my ...late... wife, I 
was sleeping with that book. When the corporate admins came in to the division, 
they told me there were two of the 27 teams whose servers looked normal (as 
opposed to a disaster), and mine was one.

I got the book, and followed the directions. I, and others, have pointed you to 
stuff, Viktor. You say you've not run a server in a while, and that every OS 
is different. I'm assuming that means you ran Windows servers, and have not 
yet taken enough time to actually learn how *nix works (Chapter 2 of Frisch's 
book).

TAKE THE TIME. We are *NOT* paid support staff for this list, we're a community 
sharing knowledge. I read man pages, read scripts, ask others at work, and 
google for hours before posting questions here.

mark
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Re: [CentOS] yum-changelog dependencies...

2009-11-16 Thread John Doe
From: kalinix calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.com
Actually you have to have python-dateutil installed (probably a missing 
dependency) and the command should be ran as:
yum changelog date|number|all 
[PACKAGE|all|installed|updates|extras|obsoletes|recent]

I saw this redhat bugfix:
If yum changelog or yum update package --changelog was run without
the Python dateutils module available, yum-changelog would exit with a
Python traceback. This package includes a patch which causes yum-changelog
to fail gracefully.
So I guess it is not mandatory...
But, while the yum-changelog is from centos, the python-dateutil is from 
rpmforge...

Thx,
JD


  
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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
mark wrote:
 
 I got the book, and followed the directions. I, and others, have pointed you 
 to 
 stuff, Viktor. You say you've not run a server in a while, and that every OS 
 is different. I'm assuming that means you ran Windows servers, and have not 
 yet taken enough time to actually learn how *nix works (Chapter 2 of Frisch's 
 book).

I assumed that he meant some other flavor of unix, since in several decades 
they 
have not managed to set and follow a standard for administration and the 
particular things in question vary wildly across them.  But if you've only used 
Red Hat style systems - or maybe even SysV it might not be obvious how quirky 
they are.

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[CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Frank Thommen
Hi,

for a specific application we need a low-profile SCSI card (PCI) with 
external 50pin connector.  I thought about getting an Adaptec SCSI Card 
2930LP.  However I was not able to find any usable information about 
wether this card is supported by Linux/CentOS 5.x or not.  Does anyone 
have this card working with a CentOS 5.x machine?

Alternatively: Are there any linux-supported low-profile PCI SCSI cards 
with 50pin connector which are supported by CentOS 5.x and which you can 
recommend?

Thanks in advance

frank

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Re: [CentOS] bash variable expansion moment

2009-11-16 Thread Todd Denniston
ken wrote, On 11/14/2009 07:37 PM:
 It's half a nice Saturday later and many attempts have brought no
 satisfaction.  Maybe this can't be done.
 
 I'm trying to write a function which, when called from one function
 execute in another.  In itself, that's not the problem.  Rather, there's
 one built-in variable which is evaluated in the function definition and
 it's value is then set (too early).
 
SNIP
 
 I want the function Line to show the line number in the second file
 where it's executed, not the line number from the sourced function.
 
 Any mavens got the skinny on this?

As I understand the variable is interpreted from the perspective of the line of 
the file, and bash 
does not inline the function.

A trick around it can be gotten with the following modification of your scripts.
---func-file--
Line()
{
echo This is line $MyLN $@
}
#extra
#lines
#desired
#to
#show
#that
#execution
#not
#early, orig
#simply
#placed
#early
#in
#file
LineO()
{
echo This is line $LINENO $@
}
-

main-
#!/bin/bash

. ./func-file

MyLN=$LINENO Line ... it should be $LINENO
LineO ... it should be $LINENO
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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread m . roth
 mark wrote:

 I got the book, and followed the directions. I, and others, have pointed
 you to dtuff, Viktor. You say you've not run a server in a while, and that
 every OS is different. I'm assuming that means you ran Windows
servers, and have
 not yet taken enough time to actually learn how *nix works (Chapter 2 of
 Frisch's book).

 I assumed that he meant some other flavor of unix, since in several
 decades they
 have not managed to set and follow a standard for administration and the
 particular things in question vary wildly across them.  But if you've only
 used Red Hat style systems - or maybe even SysV it might not be obvious how
 quirky they are.

Don't consider them quirky - but then, I've worked in a number of *Nixes,
and done admin on Sun, Sun Solaris and Tru64, as well as SuSE and RH, and
found the differences relatively trivial, though Unbuntu's a little more
irritating. Still, if you understand how it all works, it's more a
difference in dialect, not a separate, unrelated language.

 mark


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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:43:28 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 for a specific application we need a low-profile SCSI card (PCI) with 
 external 50pin connector.  I thought about getting an Adaptec SCSI Card 
 2930LP.  However I was not able to find any usable information about 
 wether this card is supported by Linux/CentOS 5.x or not.  Does anyone 
 have this card working with a CentOS 5.x machine?

ALL Adaptec SCSI Cards (except for a few bleeding edge 64-bit PCI cards)
are supported, out-of-the-box using stock kernels on all versions of
CentOS (3.x, 4.x, and 5.x):

On my CentOS 4.8 box:

sauron.deepsoft.com% strings 
/lib/modules/2.6.9-89.0.16.EL/kernel/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.ko |grep 2930
Adaptec 2930CU SCSI adapter
Adaptec 2930C Ultra SCSI adapter (VAR)
Adaptec 2930 Ultra SCSI adapter
Adaptec 2930 Ultra2 SCSI adapter

And in a CentOS 5.2 install:

sauron.deepsoft.com% strings 
/CentOS52/lib/modules/2.6.18-92.el5/kernel/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.ko | 
grep 2930
Adaptec 2930CU SCSI adapter
Adaptec 2930C Ultra SCSI adapter (VAR)
Adaptec 2930 Ultra SCSI adapter
Adaptec 2930 Ultra2 SCSI adapter

It is supported. 

 
 Alternatively: Are there any linux-supported low-profile PCI SCSI cards 
 with 50pin connector which are supported by CentOS 5.x and which you can 
 recommend?

Go with the Adaptec card.

 
 Thanks in advance
 
 frank
 

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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Rainer Duffner
Robert Heller schrieb:
 At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:43:28 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:

   
 Hi,

 for a specific application we need a low-profile SCSI card (PCI) with 
 external 50pin connector.  I thought about getting an Adaptec SCSI Card 
 2930LP.  However I was not able to find any usable information about 
 wether this card is supported by Linux/CentOS 5.x or not.  Does anyone 
 have this card working with a CentOS 5.x machine?
 

 ALL Adaptec SCSI Cards (except for a few bleeding edge 64-bit PCI cards)
 are supported, out-of-the-box using stock kernels on all versions of
 CentOS (3.x, 4.x, and 5.x):
   


Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know how
to enable booting from such a card.
It's years since I used SCSI-drives for desktop-use - and then it was a
workstation-class Dual-Xeon board, Socket 604.
So I can't say if this is still true today - but I've read that people
have problems like that.




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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Tim Nelson
- Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know
 how
 to enable booting from such a card.
 It's years since I used SCSI-drives for desktop-use - and then it was
 a
 workstation-class Dual-Xeon board, Socket 604.
 So I can't say if this is still true today - but I've read that
 people
 have problems like that.
 
 Rainer


I've actually found that even in some systems that can boot from addon cards 
properly, there are still some cards that are not bootable. In fact, I have a 
29160LP that would not show up as a bootable option in a half dozen servers I 
tried. This includes anywhere from custom built boxes to nice upper end Dell 
units. YMMV...

Tim Nelson
Systems/Network Support
Rockbochs Inc.
(218)727-4332 x105
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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Frank Thommen
 for a specific application we need a low-profile SCSI card (PCI) with 
 external 50pin connector.  I thought about getting an Adaptec SCSI Card 
 2930LP.  However I was not able to find any usable information about 
 wether this card is supported by Linux/CentOS 5.x or not.  Does anyone 
 have this card working with a CentOS 5.x machine?
 
 ALL Adaptec SCSI Cards (except for a few bleeding edge 64-bit PCI cards)
 are supported, out-of-the-box using stock kernels on all versions of
 CentOS (3.x, 4.x, and 5.x):

Great  thanks


 sauron.deepsoft.com% strings 
 /lib/modules/2.6.9-89.0.16.EL/kernel/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.ko |grep 
 2930
 [...]

I'll use this string search next time I'm looking for device support.  I 
didn't know I could do that.

Greetings from my host (balrog) to your's :-)


frank
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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
Tim Nelson wrote:
 - Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
 Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know
 how
 to enable booting from such a card.
 It's years since I used SCSI-drives for desktop-use - and then it was
 a
 workstation-class Dual-Xeon board, Socket 604.
 So I can't say if this is still true today - but I've read that
 people
 have problems like that.

 
 
 I've actually found that even in some systems that can boot from addon cards 
 properly, there are still some cards that are not bootable. In fact, I have 
 a 29160LP that would not show up as a bootable option in a half dozen servers 
 I tried. This includes anywhere from custom built boxes to nice upper end 
 Dell units. YMMV...

Does it have an option to enable/disable bios in the card setup like 
other ataptec cards?  If so it has to be enabled to boot.

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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Tim Nelson
- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tim Nelson wrote:
  - Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
  Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know
  how
  to enable booting from such a card.
  It's years since I used SCSI-drives for desktop-use - and then it
 was
  a
  workstation-class Dual-Xeon board, Socket 604.
  So I can't say if this is still true today - but I've read that
  people
  have problems like that.
 
  
  
  I've actually found that even in some systems that can boot from
 addon cards properly, there are still some cards that are not
 bootable. In fact, I have a 29160LP that would not show up as a
 bootable option in a half dozen servers I tried. This includes
 anywhere from custom built boxes to nice upper end Dell units.
 YMMV...
 
 Does it have an option to enable/disable bios in the card setup like 
 other ataptec cards?  If so it has to be enabled to boot.
 
 -- 
Les Mikesell

I've never been able to get into the BIOS on it. It's almost like the card 
doesn't have one. When the system boots, there is not the usual 'addon card' 
operation where the card detects drives, displays it on the screen, then 
continues to POST. The system simply boots like the card isn't there. As long 
as you can boot from another device, the card is happily recognized and works 
flawlessly once an OS is running. I've looked into resetting the configuration 
on the card, etc... I just think in this case the card may be a lower end card 
used for secondary addon storage only without the option to boot...

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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 mark wrote:
 I got the book, and followed the directions. I, and others, have pointed
 you to dtuff, Viktor. You say you've not run a server in a while, and that
 every OS is different. I'm assuming that means you ran Windows
 servers, and have
 not yet taken enough time to actually learn how *nix works (Chapter 2 of
 Frisch's book).
 I assumed that he meant some other flavor of unix, since in several
 decades they
 have not managed to set and follow a standard for administration and the
 particular things in question vary wildly across them.  But if you've only
 used Red Hat style systems - or maybe even SysV it might not be obvious how
 quirky they are.

 Don't consider them quirky - but then, I've worked in a number of *Nixes,
 and done admin on Sun, Sun Solaris and Tru64, as well as SuSE and RH, and
 found the differences relatively trivial, though Unbuntu's a little more
 irritating. Still, if you understand how it all works, it's more a
 difference in dialect, not a separate, unrelated language.

I'd consider starting things at boot time to be as unrelated as you can 
get.  There's next to nothing in common between bsd and sysV oriented 
systems (I think the ones you mention are mostly sysV-ish).  And the ftp 
config concepts go with the choice of the application, which varies even 
more wildly.

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Re: [CentOS] php config security concern for c5

2009-11-16 Thread Joe Pruett
 a recent post on bugtraq hilighted an issue with how upstream has
 configured apache to invoke php, namely using addhandler, which has the
 behavior of matching the extension anywhere in the file.  this means
 that foo.php.jpg will be run as php.  where this becomes an issue is web
 apps that allow uploads into the webspace for images, pdfs, etc.  if the
 app assumes that anything.jpg is safe, this addhandler feature will
 surprise it.

 Hi Joe,

 Are you sure this is limited to just CentOS? I've seen that config
 used before on other distro's apache configs.

i'm sure other distros use the same method, but i don't use any and this 
is the centos list, so that's all i'm talking about.


 From the Apache 2.x Docs:

 ---
 Care should be taken when a file with multiple extensions gets
 associated with both a MIME-type and a handler. This will usually
 result in the request being by the module associated with the handler.
 For example, if the .imap  extension is mapped to the handler
 imap-file (from mod_imap) and the .html extension is mapped to the
 MIME-type text/html, then the file world.imap.html will be associated
 with both the imap-file handler and text/html MIME-type. When it is
 processed, the imap-file handler will be used, and so it will be
 treated as a mod_imap imagemap file.
 ---

 So if example.php.gif is read by apache, the AddHandler for
 php5-script (mod_php) will take precedence over the mime-type handler
 for .gif (image/gif) and the file will be treated as a php script.

 From that it almost sounds like it's not a bug, just apache's own
 rules of precedence for handling files that match multiple
 extensions/mime-types.

i can understand why apache has this behaviour, but i think the bug is 
using it for handlers that can execute code.  since the expected behaviour 
can be obtained more safely with the filesmatch mechanism, it sure seems 
like an obvious change.
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Re: [CentOS] php config security concern for c5

2009-11-16 Thread Joe Pruett
 I had both of these on my server, and just now replaced them with
 similar FilesMatch... sections.

 Just a comment about the FilesMatch thing. The proposed additional
 ForceType will not work in there according to the httpd docs. Not that
 this makes a big difference.

what in the docs are you reading to indicate forcetype won't work?  i just 
put that in to match the addtype clause i removed.  i didn't even check to 
see if the php module sets the type to text/html by default already.
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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:

I've never been able to get into the BIOS on it. It's almost like the card
doesn't have one. When the system boots, there is not the usual 'addon
card' operation where the card detects drives, displays it on the screen,
then continues to POST. The system simply boots like the card isn't there.
As long as you can boot from another device, the card is happily recognized
and works flawlessly once an OS is running. I've looked into resetting the
configuration on the card, etc... I just think in this case the card may be
a lower end card used for secondary addon storage only without the option
to boot...

Have you tried pressing ctrl-A when the Adaptec display appears
in the boot process?  It's been a while since I looked at the
Adaptec SCSI BIOS settings, but I know there's an setting to
suppress the ctrl-A prompt on booting.  I never changed it, but
always ass*u*me*d that turning this off would still allow one to
enter the BIOS settings without the prompt.

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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Tim Nelson
- Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009, Tim Nelson wrote:
 
 I've never been able to get into the BIOS on it. It's almost like the
 card
 doesn't have one. When the system boots, there is not the usual
 'addon
 card' operation where the card detects drives, displays it on the
 screen,
 then continues to POST. The system simply boots like the card isn't
 there.
 As long as you can boot from another device, the card is happily
 recognized
 and works flawlessly once an OS is running. I've looked into
 resetting the
 configuration on the card, etc... I just think in this case the card
 may be
 a lower end card used for secondary addon storage only without the
 option
 to boot...
 
 Have you tried pressing ctrl-A when the Adaptec display appears
 in the boot process?  It's been a while since I looked at the
 Adaptec SCSI BIOS settings, but I know there's an setting to
 suppress the ctrl-A prompt on booting.  I never changed it, but
 always ass*u*me*d that turning this off would still allow one to
 enter the BIOS settings without the prompt.
 
 Bill

It was a while ago this happened so my brain might be fuzzy... but I believe I 
tried this also. I'll give it a shot when the card may be eligible for use 
again. Thanks for the tip!

--Tim

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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread John R Pierce
Les Mikesell wrote:
 I'd consider starting things at boot time to be as unrelated as you can 
 get.  There's next to nothing in common between bsd and sysV oriented 
 systems (I think the ones you mention are mostly sysV-ish).  And the ftp 
 config concepts go with the choice of the application, which varies even 
 more wildly.
   

Indeed, when I had to set some stuff up on an AIX 5.3 server a few years 
back, the BSD style init scripts rather threw me.  It was almost as if 
there was just an rc.local.

And, going in the other direction, the Service Manager Facility in 
Solaris 10 is completely different, using XML service manifests, with 
monitor scripts, service properties, and a sophisticated dependency 
system so a service *can't* be started until all its dependencies are 
running.




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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread John R Pierce
Rainer Duffner wrote:
 Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know how
 to enable booting from such a card.
   

I seriously doubt a SCSI card with a 50 pin (max 10 or 20MB/sec?) 
external connector is going to be used as a boot device.   more likely, 
this is for some older tape class device like a DAT.


btw, the original poster should know, you can convert wide (68 pin) SCSI 
to narrow (50 pin) SCSI with a 'half-terminator' cable adapter, such as 
http://www.ramelectronics.net/computer-parts/scsi/scsi-adapters/hd68/hd68-hd50-scsi-adapter-sm026a/prodSM026A.html
 
(random google hit, I know nothing of this vendor)... 
this terminates the top half of the scsi BUS and passes the low half 
through.  All SCSI controllers support narrow devices by design.






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[CentOS] Question about the ahci kernel module: missing in the CentOS (4) Plus kernel

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
Is there some reason the ahci kernel module is *missing* from the
2.6.9-89.0.16.plus.c4 kernel?  It is in the standard 2.6.9-89.0.16.EL
kernel. Is this due to an oversight or is there some sort of conflict?

I wanted to add IEEE1394 support to my system running CentOS 4.8.  I
*looks* like what I need to do is download the kernel SRPM and patch the
config to include the IEEE1394 modules and re-build the kernel from
source. Arg...

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with Yum on CentOS 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Niki Kovacs
Ralph Angenendt a écrit :

 
 So can you get a mirrorlist by hand? Can you reach the
 mirrorlist.centos.org server? Are you behind a proxy?
 
 See CentOS-Base.repo for the mirrorhost url and replace $arch with your
 architecture and $releasever with 5 ...
 

I did quite some experimentation, and I think I found a regressive bug 
(well, sort of) in CentOS 5.4. I did this on three distinct machines, 
with the same result. Here goes.

In previous versions of CentOS (that is, 5.0 to 5.3), it was possible to 
perform a very minimal install by deselecting [ ] GNOME, then selecting 
[*] Customize package selection, and then again, in the subsequent 
package selection window, unselect everything, even [ ] Base. That way, 
in 5.3, I got a system with about 160 packages, which I took as a 
starting point for both servers (install httpd, mysql-server, whatever 
is needed) and desktops (install X11, GNOME, apps as needed).

But now, this functionality seems broken. If I do the same thing with a 
fresh CentOS 5.4 install DVD, I see I now have a minimal set of 191 
packages (gtk2? What the ***!?!). On the other hand, neither SSH nor Yum 
nor even RPM don't work, as they all claim a missing libnss3.so. Now 
here's a Catch22, since I can't install it when RPM is not working 
(except by mounting the system with a LiveCD and jump through some 
burning loops).

Of course, I took the pragmatic approach and just installed the whole 
load of base packages. rpm -qa | wc -l tells me I now have a minimal 
set of no less than 378 packages to have a coherent base system (without 
X).

Any idea why the minimal install selection got broken, or some 
suggestions on how to solve that problem?

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] vsftpd question

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
John R Pierce wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 I'd consider starting things at boot time to be as unrelated as you can 
 get.  There's next to nothing in common between bsd and sysV oriented 
 systems (I think the ones you mention are mostly sysV-ish).  And the ftp 
 config concepts go with the choice of the application, which varies even 
 more wildly.
   
 
 Indeed, when I had to set some stuff up on an AIX 5.3 server a few years 
 back, the BSD style init scripts rather threw me.  It was almost as if 
 there was just an rc.local.
 
 And, going in the other direction, the Service Manager Facility in 
 Solaris 10 is completely different, using XML service manifests, with 
 monitor scripts, service properties, and a sophisticated dependency 
 system so a service *can't* be started until all its dependencies are 
 running.

People who are hopelessly locked in to a single flavor by some earlier 
choice of tools or hardware may not even understand why and how much of 
a problem this lack of standardization is.  Even though perl and 
bourne-compatible shell scripts may have matching syntax across these 
platforms, anything dealing with automating system administration is 
generally doomed to failure.

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Re: [CentOS] Question about the ahci kernel module: missing in the CentOS (4) Plus kernel

2009-11-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:
 Is there some reason the ahci kernel module is *missing* from the
 2.6.9-89.0.16.plus.c4 kernel?  It is in the standard 2.6.9-89.0.16.EL
 kernel. Is this due to an oversight or is there some sort of conflict?

 I wanted to add IEEE1394 support to my system running CentOS 4.8.  I
 *looks* like what I need to do is download the kernel SRPM and patch the
 config to include the IEEE1394 modules and re-build the kernel from
 source. Arg...

The centosplus kernel are supposed to have all modules that are
included in the standard kernel.  Could you please file a report at
http://bugs.centos.org ?

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Re: [CentOS] Adaptec SCSI Card 2930LP supported by CentOS 5.x?

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:16:57 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Robert Heller schrieb:
  At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:43:28 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
  wrote:
 

  Hi,
 
  for a specific application we need a low-profile SCSI card (PCI) with 
  external 50pin connector.  I thought about getting an Adaptec SCSI Card 
  2930LP.  However I was not able to find any usable information about 
  wether this card is supported by Linux/CentOS 5.x or not.  Does anyone 
  have this card working with a CentOS 5.x machine?
  
 
  ALL Adaptec SCSI Cards (except for a few bleeding edge 64-bit PCI cards)
  are supported, out-of-the-box using stock kernels on all versions of
  CentOS (3.x, 4.x, and 5.x):

 
 
 Except that nowadays, some cheap desktop-motherboards may not know how
 to enable booting from such a card.
 It's years since I used SCSI-drives for desktop-use - and then it was a
 workstation-class Dual-Xeon board, Socket 604.
 So I can't say if this is still true today - but I've read that people
 have problems like that.

I *suspect*, given the OP's specific request for a 50-pin external
connection that this is for something like a scanner or tape drive, not
an internal boot disk.

 
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Question about the ahci kernel module: missing in the CentOS (4) Plus kernel

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:13:29 -0800 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:
  Is there some reason the ahci kernel module is *missing* from the
  2.6.9-89.0.16.plus.c4 kernel?  It is in the standard 2.6.9-89.0.16.EL
  kernel. Is this due to an oversight or is there some sort of conflict?
 
  I wanted to add IEEE1394 support to my system running CentOS 4.8.  I
  *looks* like what I need to do is download the kernel SRPM and patch the
  config to include the IEEE1394 modules and re-build the kernel from
  source. Arg...
 
 The centosplus kernel are supposed to have all modules that are
 included in the standard kernel.  Could you please file a report at
 http://bugs.centos.org ?

Done.

 
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Re: [CentOS] Question about the ahci kernel module: missing in the CentOS (4) Plus kernel

2009-11-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:
 At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:13:29 -0800 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:

 The centosplus kernel are supposed to have all modules that are
 included in the standard kernel.  Could you please file a report at
 http://bugs.centos.org ?

 Done.

Thanks. Responded. This should be resolved in the next kernel update.

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4011

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[CentOS] openvpn for CentOS 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Mike - email ignored
Where can I get openvpn for Centos 5.4? 
yum list openvpn doesn't find it.

Thanks,
Mike.

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[CentOS] 2 TB limit on USB drive

2009-11-16 Thread Gareth Tupper
Hallo
 
I submitted this as a bug several weeks ago, but I wanted to ask around
 see if anyone else has come across this
 
I have a USB Buffalo Drivestation Quattro, with 4 1TB disks
configured in raid5 as one 2.8TB (or so) disk, attached to a Cent 5.4 64
bit server (completely yum'd up to date)

The disk is labeled as GPT, and formatted as a 2.8 TB ext3 partition
(this issue also happens with xfs).  I used a gparted boot disk to
create the partition.

When I attach the drive I see this in messages:

Nov 2 14:26:55 kernel: usb 1-5.2: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 7
Nov 2 14:26:56 kernel: usb 1-5.2: configuration 001
http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=1  chosen from 1 choice
Nov 2 14:26:56 kernel: scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
devices
Nov 2 14:26:56 kernel: usb-storage: device found at 7
Nov 2 14:26:56 kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before
scanning
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: Vendor: BUFFALO Model: HD-QSSU2/R5 1 Rev: 2.02
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: sdc : very big device. try to use READ
CAPACITY(16).
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: sdc : READ CAPACITY(16) failed.
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: sdc : status=0, message=00, host=5, driver=00
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: sdc : use 0x as device size
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: SCSI device sdc: 4294967296 512-byte hdwr sectors
(2199023 MB)
Nov 2 14:27:01 kernel: sdc: Write Protect is off

After this failure, the disk is either a) inaccessible, or b) reports
only a 2 TB partition.

The latest Ubuntu can read the disk, presenting the full 2.8 TB just
peachy.

This server is up to date:
uname -a: Linux myserver.mydomain.com 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Nov
3 16:18:27 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
cat /etc/redhat-release: CentOS release 5.4 (Final)

[r...@myserver ~]# cat /proc/partitions
major minor #blocks name
   ...
   8 32 2147483648 sdc  the disk showing incorrectly with only 2TB of
storage
 
This bug seems very similar to a previous bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502944 which was reported
fixed in 5.4 
 
Anyone seen this before, or have any ideas how I can get CentOS to see
the disk?
 
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] openvpn for CentOS 5.4

2009-11-16 Thread Bernard Lheureux
Mike - email ignored wrote:

On the RPmforge repo (Dag Wieers)
do a
cd /tmp 
wget 
http://packages.sw.be/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm 
for i386 or 
http://packages.sw.be/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.x86_64.rpm
 
for x86_64
then do:
sudo rpm -ivh rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.x86_64.rpm or
rpm -ivh rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm
depending on your architecture and the file you just downloaded...
Then install openvpn with
yum install openvpn

 Where can I get openvpn for Centos 5.4? 
 yum list openvpn doesn't find it.
   
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Re: [CentOS] 2 TB limit on USB drive

2009-11-16 Thread Eero Volotinen

 This bug seems very similar to a previous bug: 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502944 which was reported 
 fixed in 5.4
  
 Anyone seen this before, or have any ideas how I can get CentOS to see 
 the disk?

Centos is usually using old kernel, so if you want avoid this then 
possible you need to recompile your own kernel or patch current.

Bugs on usb-disk are too common nowadays..

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[CentOS] There isn't package for httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 [centos announce list from 12.11.2009]

2009-11-16 Thread Jancio Wodnik
Hi.

There isn't a package httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 for centos4 in
UPDATES repo. There is only a httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm in
SRC [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/SRPMS/?C=M;O=D]

This is probably a bug. Package httpd doesn't build ?

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Re: [CentOS] There isn't package for httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 [centos announce list from 12.11.2009]

2009-11-16 Thread Jeff
2009/11/16 Jancio Wodnik jancio_wod...@wp.pl:
 Hi.

 There isn't a package httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 for centos4 in UPDATES
 repo. There is only a httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm in SRC
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/SRPMS/?C=M;O=D]

 This is probably a bug. Package httpd doesn't build ?

More likely a mirror is out of sync. My mirror has

httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.i386.rpm12-Nov-2009
16:34  903K

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Re: [CentOS] There isn't package for httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 [centos announce list from 12.11.2009]

2009-11-16 Thread Arturas Skauronas
2009/11/16 Jancio Wodnik jancio_wod...@wp.pl

 Hi.

 There isn't a package httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 for centos4 in UPDATES 
 repo. There is only a httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm in SRC 
 [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/SRPMS/?C=M;O=D]

 This is probably a bug. Package httpd doesn't build ?

maybe you are using out of sync mirror?
or maybe yum config problems


rpm -qi httpd
Name: httpdRelocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.0.52Vendor: CentOS
Release : 41.ent.6.centos4  Build Date: Thu 12 Nov
2009 01:56:19 PM EET
Install Date: Fri 13 Nov 2009 09:19:43 AM EET  Build Host:
builder16.centos.org
Group   : System Environment/DaemonsSource RPM:
httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm
Size: 2453122  License: Apache Software License
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Thu 12 Nov 2009 03:27:09 PM EET, Key ID a53d0bab443e1821
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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread James Bensley
Ok,
I'm back again...

Thanks again to all for more replies and info, all the info of the list
members is really appreciated.

So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion on it
(http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm).
Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card has
RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my little home
server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it? I am trying find some
examples online of people using this card with CentOS in a software RAID but
nothing yet so wondered if anyone here has any input here?

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Eero Volotinen
James Bensley wrote:
 Ok,
 I'm back again...
 
 Thanks again to all for more replies and info, all the info of the list 
 members is really appreciated.
 
 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion on 
 it 
 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm). 
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card 
 has RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my 
 little home server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it? I am 
 trying find some examples online of people using this card with CentOS 
 in a software RAID but nothing yet so wondered if anyone here has any 
 input here?

how about:

http://markmail.org/message/2odawealo6ktbz2b

and:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2007-April/001565.html

and:

http://osdir.com/ml/linux-raid/2009-09/msg00340.html

Maybe it works fine on Centos 5 with kernel drivers?

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 21:49 +, James Bensley wrote:
 Ok,
 I'm back again...
 
 
 Thanks again to all for more replies and info, all the info of the
 list members is really appreciated.
 
 
 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion
 on it
 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm). 
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card has 
 RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my little home 
 server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it? I am trying find some 
 examples online of people using this card with CentOS in a software RAID but 
 nothing yet so wondered if anyone here has any input here?
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 James ;)
 


If I am not mistaken that card uses the Marvell MV88SX5081 chipset and
uses the sata_mv module (after a little googling).

I have been reading around google and found that support for this was
added in CentOS 4 (sata_mv).

I also saw some posts regarding instability with this driver... sort of
a use at own risk scenario. 

Some were saying disabling hw RAID helped, but I haven't used that card
so I couldn't tell you. Maybe someone else on the list has used a card
with the MV88SX5081 chipset?

I have only played with the AOC-USAS-L8i card and that wasn't in Linux
(it was for an Opensolaris build), we just needed to buy SFF-8087 to 4 x
SATA cables to make it work. If you want to use SW raid, I might suggest
going for a card that is just adds SATA ports and has no onboard RAID,
but it is up to you.

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread nate
James Bensley wrote:

 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion on it
 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm).
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card has
 RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my little home
 server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it?

Do you feel lucky?

To me seeing something that specifically calls out a version of a
product tells me often times there is a binary driver behind it, so
compatibility with CentOS 5.x is not a sure thing.

I poked around quite a bit online but could not find any indication
of this card/chipset's level of support in linux. Saw a few people
asking about support but no replies to any of them.

Myself I would skip this card and go for something that you can
find that indicates it specifically supports Red Hat 5.x. Unless
you can find something/someone that can tell you that this card
has support for CentOS/RHEL 5.x.

I use PCI-X 3Ware 8006-2 raid controllers in two of my own
personal systems, they work pretty well. More recently I got an
ATTO SAS HBA for a system for a tape drive, they have lots of SAS
and SATA HBAs, and lots of linux support but I don't see anything
that is PCI-X.

nate


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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
James Bensley wrote:
 Ok,
 I'm back again...
 
 Thanks again to all for more replies and info, all the info of the list 
 members is really appreciated.
 
 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion on 
 it 
 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm). 
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card 
 has RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my 
 little home server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it? I am 
 trying find some examples online of people using this card with CentOS 
 in a software RAID but nothing yet so wondered if anyone here has any 
 input here?

Yes, I have one and it works fine with the stock drivers in Centos. 
Most of the drives are in hot-swap trays and I don't have any trouble 
swapping them in and out of software raid1 sets.  As long as you have a 
PCI-X slot it should work for you.

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[CentOS] Why swap if there's still physical memory available

2009-11-16 Thread yanagik317
Dear CentOS people,

This is just a general question related to memory management, and there 
may have been a thread or two about it before, but I'd like to post anyway.

A user was looking at top, whereby he found out that his two processes 
were 10.2g and 4836m in VIRT.  They were 6.4g and 4.6g in RES 
respectively.  3445964k was free still.  He was wondering why the system 
didn't use all of the physical memory available (16300960k total) before 
swapping out parts of the processes.

Over time, the 10.2g process had about 8g of it in SWAP.  The 4836m 
process only had about 100m in SWAP.  Much of the physical space is now 
used.

I guess the answer may not be that simple and I most likely haven't 
described everything that could have influenced the kernel's 
decision-making, but how does Linux decide how much of a process to be 
swapped out?  I guess I could read the documentations on the Linux 
kernel, but does anyone have more general answers ready to be dispensed?

I haven't done anything with sysctl, if that comes into play at all.

Thank you,

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Neil Aggarwal
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 21:49 +, James Bensley wrote:
 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion
on it 

(http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm).
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the
 card has RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 
 on my little home server everything should work just dandy shouldn't
 it?

Supermicro has a good pre-sales team.  I would call them and ask.
They should be able to give you a definitive answer.

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Re: [CentOS] There isn't package for httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 [centos announce list from 12.11.2009]

2009-11-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:47 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 
 Hi.
 
 There isn't a package httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 for centos4 in
 UPDATES repo. There is only a httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm in
 SRC [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/SRPMS/?C=M;O=D]
 
 This is probably a bug. Package httpd doesn't build ?

Strange... I just installed httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 this morning!
Are you sure it wasn't some sort of network glitch?  Maybe the mirror
you used was having a bad day?

 
 Jancio Wodnik
 
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Re: [CentOS] Why swap if there's still physical memory available

2009-11-16 Thread nate
yanagik317 wrote:

 I guess the answer may not be that simple and I most likely haven't
 described everything that could have influenced the kernel's
 decision-making, but how does Linux decide how much of a process to be
 swapped out?  I guess I could read the documentations on the Linux
 kernel, but does anyone have more general answers ready to be dispensed?

Linux by default will try to swap less accessed regions of memory
when memory pressure starts to get tight(say less than 25% of memory
is free), if you want to override this behavior look to the
'swappiness' setting

 I haven't done anything with sysctl, if that comes into play at all.

It can if you want

vm.swappiness = 0

To tell the kernel not to swap unless it *really* needs to

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote:
 James Bensley wrote:
 
 So I have found this card and wondered if anyone has a second opinion on it
 (http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm).
 Seeing as it states on the website that the CD that comes with the card has
 RedHat drivers on it, and I will be using CentOS 5.4 i386 on my little home
 server everything should work just dandy shouldn't it?
 
 Do you feel lucky?
 
 To me seeing something that specifically calls out a version of a
 product tells me often times there is a binary driver behind it, so
 compatibility with CentOS 5.x is not a sure thing.
 
 I poked around quite a bit online but could not find any indication
 of this card/chipset's level of support in linux. Saw a few people
 asking about support but no replies to any of them.
 
 Myself I would skip this card and go for something that you can
 find that indicates it specifically supports Red Hat 5.x. Unless
 you can find something/someone that can tell you that this card
 has support for CentOS/RHEL 5.x.
 
 I use PCI-X 3Ware 8006-2 raid controllers in two of my own
 personal systems, they work pretty well. More recently I got an
 ATTO SAS HBA for a system for a tape drive, they have lots of SAS
 and SATA HBAs, and lots of linux support but I don't see anything
 that is PCI-X.

I was having regular filesystem problems with an adaptec and promise 
card installed in the same box and they all went away when I swapped 
them out for the 8-port marvel card above - which I got because it was 
recommended for Solaris and I might eventually switch (especially if 
Nexenta releases a version that includes zfs de-dup soon).

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread James Bensley
Thanks for the speedy replies guys,

I had an itch, so I itched it; In the back of my head I couldn't help
but think I had miss-read the details about my mobo and that it was
PCI-E not PCI-X and I was right, so the previous card is no longer an
option although I am not liking the look of it thanks to the list
members finding various problems for me (thanks guys, saved me some
time and hassle there!) so instead I am looking at one of these
(http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/sata/sataii/AAR-1430SA/). Its
based on the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset which seems to work under CentOS
5, Hurray!

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Re: [CentOS] Why swap if there's still physical memory available

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote:
 yanagik317 wrote:
 
 I guess the answer may not be that simple and I most likely haven't
 described everything that could have influenced the kernel's
 decision-making, but how does Linux decide how much of a process to be
 swapped out?  I guess I could read the documentations on the Linux
 kernel, but does anyone have more general answers ready to be dispensed?
 
 Linux by default will try to swap less accessed regions of memory
 when memory pressure starts to get tight(say less than 25% of memory
 is free), if you want to override this behavior look to the
 'swappiness' setting
 
 I haven't done anything with sysctl, if that comes into play at all.
 
 It can if you want
 
 vm.swappiness = 0
 
 To tell the kernel not to swap unless it *really* needs to
 

Also, the top values may not tell the whole story - RES should include 
paged-in code plus memory allocated by the program.   VIRT includes code 
not paged in yet and linked shared libraries, so the difference may not 
all be in swap.

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Re: [CentOS] There isn't package for httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 [centos announce list from 12.11.2009]

2009-11-16 Thread Jancio Wodnik
W dniu 16.11.2009 23:37, Robert Heller pisze:
 At Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:47 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
 wrote:

   


 Hi.

 There isn't a package httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 for centos4 in
 UPDATES repo. There is only a httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4.src.rpm in
 SRC [http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/updates/SRPMS/?C=M;O=D]

 This is probably a bug. Package httpd doesn't build ?
 
 Strange... I just installed httpd-2.0.52-41.ent.6.centos4 this morning!
 Are you sure it wasn't some sort of network glitch?  Maybe the mirror
 you used was having a bad day?

   

Sorry for this noise. I have installed httpd from centos plus repo, so i
don't see updates of httpd. I have httpd 2.0.63

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Re: [CentOS] bash variable expansion moment

2009-11-16 Thread ken
On 11/15/2009 06:32 PM Stephen Harris wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 06:21:40PM -0500, ken wrote:
 
 
 
 echo This is line ${BASH_LINENO[0]} $@
 
   

That's all I needed.  Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] 2 TB limit on USB drive

2009-11-16 Thread Todd Denniston
Gareth Tupper wrote, On 11/16/2009 03:12 PM:
 Hallo
  
 I submitted this as a bug several weeks ago, but I wanted to ask around
  see if anyone else has come across this
what BZ and #? (mainly out of curiosity, but not enough to override the 
laziness of not wanting to 
check 2 different BZs)
  
   I have a USB Buffalo Drivestation Quattro, with 4 1TB disks
 configured in raid5 as one 2.8TB (or so) disk, attached to a Cent 5.4 64
 bit server (completely yum'd up to date)
 
SNIP
 After this failure, the disk is either a) inaccessible, or b) reports
 only a 2 TB partition.
 
SNIP
 [r...@myserver ~]# cat /proc/partitions
 major minor #blocks name
...
8 32 2147483648 sdc  the disk showing incorrectly with only 2TB of
 storage
  
 This bug seems very similar to a previous bug:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502944 which was reported
 fixed in 5.4 
  
 Anyone seen this before, or have any ideas how I can get CentOS to see
 the disk?
  

ideas:
A1) figure out how much more/less than
http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/24/drivers/usb/storage/usb.c
needs patched into the kernel source to make 2TB work.
A2) get the CentOS kernel SRPM and patch it in, build, install and use.
[considering the bz you point to points to (in Comment #7) a very small patch 
for the ipbvscsi 
devices, it is _probably_ just a simple patch from the 24 version of usb.c]


B1) give a kernel dev at that prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor 
(who runs Enterprise 
Linux instead of Fedora) a 2.8TB USB disk to play with and
B2) point them at 
http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/24/drivers/usb/storage/usb.c

:)

Alternatively we could find someone with a 2+TB USB disk and the ability to 
submit bugs on a 
subscription to that prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor.
(or see if a proven change could be put in a CentOS plus kernel[module])

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Re: [CentOS] pan news reader

2009-11-16 Thread mark
Mike - email ignored wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:41:47 -0500, Ron Loftin wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 03:38 +, MIKE - EMAIL IGNORED wrote:
 Does anyone know if the pan news reader works on CentOS 5.4?  I am
 considering installing version 0.132 that I downloaded from
 pan.rebelbase.com .

 I'm using 0.133 from rpmforge.  Seems to work fine.

I just installed it. It runs. I don't want to use it, because I *always* type 
in my password, and do not want it stored... and pam will not let me do that, 
AFAIK.

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Re: [CentOS] errors on multimedia guidance for x86_64

2009-11-16 Thread David McGuffey

On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:24 +0100, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
 David McGuffey wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:09 -0500, Steve Huff wrote:
  On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:43 PM, David McGuffey wrote:
 
  --  Finished Dependency Resolution
  gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.8-3.el5.rf.x86_64 from rpmforge has
  depsolving problems
--  Missing Dependency: libfaad.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
  gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.8-3.el5.rf.x86_64 (rpmforge)
 snip
  First question: Is the guidance for multimedia accurate for an 5.4
  x86_64 load?
 
  Second question: is rpmforge fully ready for 5.4?
 
  this is a known issue; Dag has been working on fixing it over the
  weekend:
 
  http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/users/2009-November/002797.html
 
  So...are the gstreamer-plugins in rpmforge ready for 5.4?
 
 
  i was just able to install gstreamer-plugins-bad on a 5.4 i386 host.
 
  -steve
  I'm running 5.4 x86_64, so maybe I'll have to wait for the rpmforge to
  catch up.
 
 everything seems fixed this morning (C5 x86_64), at least on the mirror 
 I use. Try again, if it fails try a different mirror.

I forced a re-install and all seems to be working, but I get an SELinux
alert that tells me it is
blocking /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so because it requires
text location.

I went ahead an used audit2allow to make an exception for this shared
library.  Not exactly what I wanted to do and I'm hoping that this gets
fixed in the upstream work.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization option at first install CentOS-5.4 x86_64

2009-11-16 Thread David McGuffey

On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 23:32 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 David McGuffey wrote:
  
  I tried VMWare's EXSi 4.0 on bare metal, and failed.  Then I tried
  VirtualBox on CentOS 5.3 and failed.
 
 
 What did these fail to do?
 
Sorry it has taken so long to get back.

After screwing around for weeks trying to get a motherboard that at
least was on the unofficial white list, I did get EXSi 4.0 to load.  It
was then that I realized I needed a separate Windoze workstation to load
the vSphere to manage the VMs. I could only dedicate one machine to the
virtualization testing.

Then I tried VB on CentOS 5.3.  For some reason, I couldn't get it to
create a VM.  So...

I reloaded the machine with CentOS 5.4 (it had come out during my test),
and selected 'kvm' during the install.  That worked great.

At work, I loaded VB onto a Windoze XP Pro load and it locked up the
machine.  Corporate IT had to re-image it...along with a warning to me
about mucking with their standard load.

Tonight, I just loaded VB onto Windoze XP 64.  The load went OK, but
when I created a VM for CentOS 5.4 (text mode), it hangs trying to bring
up the network.  That is the second failure I've had with VM.

Tomorrow I'm going to remove VB from the XP 64 load and install VMWare
Server.

At this point in time, the only virtualization tool that loaded and
'just worked' has been kvm under CentOS 5.4.  And...this is only a
Technology Preview by Red Hat.  For a TP, I'm impressed.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization option at first install CentOS-5.4 x86_64

2009-11-16 Thread David McGuffey

On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 10:18 +0100, Mathieu Baudier wrote:
  I selected one virtual CPU for the XP load...primarily because I want to
  run a couple more VMs and the guidance was to allocate one real CPU per
  VM.
 
 My understanding is that Win XP will perform a fundamentally different
 install depending on whether it detects 1 or many CPU. So if you ever
 plan to reuse your VM with many CPUs, you should install it with many
 right away (and follow the tip above: install as Windows Vista, not
 XP).
 
 I had this problem with a Win XP VM that I installed with pre v3.0
 versions of VirtualBox: after VBox introduced SMP I could not use the
 multi-processor feature since XP had been installed with one
 processor.
 
 Anyhow, now that I'm using KVM, for my test desktop VMs I tend to
 allocate a total of CPUs across the VMs higher than the number of my
 physical CPUs, since they rarely need CPU power at the same time but I
 want them to be able to run very smoothly if needed.
 
  run a couple more VMs and the guidance was to allocate one real CPU per
 
 Which guidance are you talking about?

In the Red Hat 5 Virtualization documentation it seems to strongly
recommends having at least one physical cpu per VM.  Since I have a quad
core and I want to run the host plus 2-3 VMs, I decided give each VM one
virtual cpu. Maybe I was too cautious.

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization option at firstinstall CentOS-5.4 x86_64

2009-11-16 Thread Neil Aggarwal
Dave:

 In the Red Hat 5 Virtualization documentation it seems to strongly
 recommends having at least one physical cpu per VM.  Since I 
 have a quad
 core and I want to run the host plus 2-3 VMs, I decided give 
 each VM one
 virtual cpu. Maybe I was too cautious.

In section 28.4 of the RHEL 5.4 Virtualization Guide,
they state:

Virtualized CPUs are overcommitted best when each virtualized 
guest only has a single VCPU. The Linux scheduler is very efficient 
with this type of load. KVM should safely support guests with 
loads under 100% at a ratio of 5 VCPUs Overcommitting single 
VCPU virtualized guests is not an issue. 

So, if you are going to overcommit CPUs, make sure each
one of the guests has a single VCPU.  If you want to
allocate multiple VCPUs to the guests, do not overcommit
the CPUs.

I hope this helps,
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[CentOS] High load averages with latest kernel and USB drives?

2009-11-16 Thread Benjamin Smith
I'm having a server report a high load average when backing up Postgres 
database files to an external USB drive. This is driving my loadbalancers all 
out of kilter and causing a large volume of network monitor alerts. 

I have a 1TB USB drive plugged into a USB2 port that I use to back up the 
production drives (which are SCSI). It's working fine, but while doing backups 
(hourly) the load average on the server shoots up from the normal 0.5 - 1.5 or 
so up to a high between 10 and 30. Strangely, even though the load is high 
the server is completely responsive, even the USB drives being accessed are! 

Backup script is really simple, run via cron, pretty much just: 

#! /bin/sh 
hour=`date +%k`;
pg_dump options mydatabase  /media/backups/mydatabase.$hour.pgsql; 

where /media/backups is the mount point for the USB drive. 

Using top to diagnose, nothing seems to be particularly high! IoWait seems 
reasonable (10-30%) and CPUs are 0.5%, Idle is 70-90%. Even accessing the USB 
partition while the load is high is responsive! 

I'm guessing that something changed in how load average is counted?

Server Stats: 
Late model 8-way Xeon, SuperMicro brand. 
CentOS 4.x  / 64 (all updates applied, booted after last kernel update) 
Kernel 2.6.9-89.0.16.ELsmp
4 GB ECC RAM
300 GB SCSI HDD. 
Standard Apache/PHP, Postgres 8.4. 

Any idea how to revert to the old load average tracking behavior short of 
using a stale and potentially insecure kernel? 

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Re: [CentOS] Virtualization option at first install CentOS-5.4 x86_64

2009-11-16 Thread Les Mikesell
David McGuffey wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 23:32 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 David McGuffey wrote:
 I tried VMWare's EXSi 4.0 on bare metal, and failed.  Then I tried
 VirtualBox on CentOS 5.3 and failed.

 What did these fail to do?

 Sorry it has taken so long to get back.
 
 After screwing around for weeks trying to get a motherboard that at
 least was on the unofficial white list, I did get EXSi 4.0 to load.  It
 was then that I realized I needed a separate Windoze workstation to load
 the vSphere to manage the VMs. I could only dedicate one machine to the
 virtualization testing.

If you set the VM's up with their own remote access (remote X, freenx, vnc, 
remote desktop, etc.) you only need the vSphere console to do the initial 
installs to the point where networking is up on the VM.

 Then I tried VB on CentOS 5.3.  For some reason, I couldn't get it to
 create a VM.  So...

That doesn't make much sense.

 I reloaded the machine with CentOS 5.4 (it had come out during my test),
 and selected 'kvm' during the install.  That worked great.
 
 At work, I loaded VB onto a Windoze XP Pro load and it locked up the
 machine.  Corporate IT had to re-image it...along with a warning to me
 about mucking with their standard load.

It works OK on XP for me - but wouldn't that box have been a suitable place for 
the vSphere client?


 Tonight, I just loaded VB onto Windoze XP 64.  The load went OK, but
 when I created a VM for CentOS 5.4 (text mode), it hangs trying to bring
 up the network.  That is the second failure I've had with VM.

There are several options for the network - are you using bridged or NAT?  And 
does the console show it as connected?

 Tomorrow I'm going to remove VB from the XP 64 load and install VMWare
 Server.

That should work too - although if you only plan to run one VM at a time and 
view its console locally you might as well use VMware player.

 At this point in time, the only virtualization tool that loaded and
 'just worked' has been kvm under CentOS 5.4.  And...this is only a
 Technology Preview by Red Hat.  For a TP, I'm impressed.

I don't think you can blame the other products for 'not working'.

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Re: [CentOS] RAIDs and JBOD?

2009-11-16 Thread Arturas Skauronas
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:53 AM, James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the speedy replies guys,

 I had an itch, so I itched it; In the back of my head I couldn't help
 but think I had miss-read the details about my mobo and that it was
 PCI-E not PCI-X and I was right, so the previous card is no longer an
 option although I am not liking the look of it thanks to the list
 members finding various problems for me (thanks guys, saved me some
 time and hassle there!) so instead I am looking at one of these
 (http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/sata/sataii/AAR-1430SA/). Its
 based on the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset which seems to work under CentOS
 5, Hurray!

I have card MV88SX6081 and can confirm that it works...
but not with in stock kernel, you have to build module on your own. so
if you are planning to have system in hard drives which are conected
to motherboard it can be just fine.
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