Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 25/02/2010 20:34, Alan McKay wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Does anyone know of a rack configurator that runs on CentOS?   It does
> not have to even be very fancy - immediately I'm just looking for an
> easy way to keep track of what is in my racks, and being able to have
> a visual of it.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/nventory/wiki perhaps ? I was only made 
aware of this about 24 hrs back, and had a brief look last night - looks 
quite good, bonus points for the puppet integration so one can use that 
as an external config / node / manifest provider.

Which, in turn, might be a bit more than what you are loking for at this 
stage, but worth keeping an eye out for.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Les Mikesell
>Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:52 PM
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>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS
>
[...]
>>  Looking more closely I saw that the RHEL5-packages were from epel,
>a repo one
>> maybe shouldn't choose as a primary repo for ones CentOS-systems if you
can
>> help it. At least that's the impression I got from the various posts to
this
>> list.
>
>No, epel is the best large 3rd party repo in terms of avoiding conflicts
>with the base.  They are just not perfect. It's probably impossible to
>be perfect without a single point of coordination, but you generally
>won't get in trouble leaving epel enabled during updates unless you also
>use other 3rd party repos.  They also tend not to have as current
>packages as rpmforge, though.

Yeah, I noticed that with rpmforge. I was just under the impression that
epel was a bit "dodgy" as repos come. Never too late to be enlightened
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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Dominik Zyla
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:44:07PM -0600, Ricardo Carrillo wrote:
> Have a look http://flux.org.uk/projects/rackmonkey/ too..

You can also check this: http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:rack it's good,
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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Benjamin Smith wrote:

> Years ago, I set up a backup tool that wrapped rsync. It has faithfully and
> reliably backed up a dozen hosts and too many TB of data to mention,
> offsite,
> automatically saving as many backup points as disk space allows.
> You're certainly welcome to try it!
>
> http://www.effortlessis.com/thisisnotbackupbuddy/
>
> It works on an "ascending powers" basis, EG:
>
> 1 day ago,
> 2 days ago,
> 4 days ago,
> 8 days ago,
> 16 days ago...
> 
> until out of disk space.
>
> =)
>

 it is a criminal offence (in free software world) to
hide this gem from the world for all this long. ;)

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Ricardo Carrillo
Have a look http://flux.org.uk/projects/rackmonkey/ too..


2010/2/25 Rajagopal Swaminathan :
> Greetings,
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Peter Hinse  wrote:
>>
>> Am 25.02.2010 21:34, schrieb Alan McKay:
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> have a look at racktables: http://racktables.org/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
> +1
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Peter Hinse  wrote:

> Am 25.02.2010 21:34, schrieb Alan McKay:
> Hi Alan,
>
> have a look at racktables: http://racktables.org/
>
> Regards,
>
>
+1

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Enabling msg_get_queue()?

2010-02-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
PS:  This is largely a non-issue. We've found that we can compile this in as a 
module without have to recompile the PHP binary. Not a perfect solution, but 
it works well enough. 

-Ben 

On Thursday 25 February 2010 02:58:28 pm Benjamin Smith wrote:
> Noticing that the PHP4 binaries with CentOS4 are compiled with the option:
>   --enable-sysvshm
> 
> but not with the
> 
>   --enable-sysvmsg
> 
> option. They are very closely related, and we'd like to use the
> msg_get_queue() function for an application cluster. Is there any reason
> why this is so? Is it too much to ask to have this added?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -Ben

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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
Years ago, I set up a backup tool that wrapped rsync. It has faithfully and 
reliably backed up a dozen hosts and too many TB of data to mention, offsite, 
automatically saving as many backup points as disk space allows. 
You're certainly welcome to try it! 

http://www.effortlessis.com/thisisnotbackupbuddy/

It works on an "ascending powers" basis, EG: 

1 day ago, 
2 days ago, 
4 days ago, 
8 days ago, 
16 days ago... 
 
until out of disk space. 

=) 

-Ben 

On Thursday 25 February 2010 10:22:13 am Mike McCarty wrote:
> Agnello George wrote:
> > The requirement fro backup  is not  primarily  for HDD failure , but
> > human error failure . In case one of our user ( eg: the COO with huge 
> > mailbox size has delete all his certain very important mails, and he
> > want to recover them , the contacts us as we are supposed to maintain
> > his mail backup for a week, and we should restore his backup immediately
> >  )  this the main requirement  for the backup  and that too on the same
> > server different partition .
> 
> Have you considered using a snapshot approach? By that, I mean one
> which uses hard links to create the "backup", and as files get added/
> modified, the data are copied, and links are created. Usually, one
> has a snapshot directory with something like a daily snapshot, and
> 24 hourly ones, something like that.
> 
> Mike

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[CentOS] Enabling msg_get_queue()?

2010-02-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
Noticing that the PHP4 binaries with CentOS4 are compiled with the option: 
--enable-sysvshm

but not with the 

--enable-sysvmsg 

option. They are very closely related, and we'd like to use the 
msg_get_queue() function for an application cluster. Is there any reason why 
this is so? Is it too much to ask to have this added? 

Thanks in advance! 

-Ben 

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Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)

2010-02-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 02/25/2010 02:25 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was
> running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and
> ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server.
>
> And SMARTD reports the sectors as "currently unreadable (pending)
> sectors", and "offline uncorrectable sectors".
>
> Does smartd cache its info somewhere, or is it reading what fsck already
> marked as bad? And this has happened before, under 5.3, and under
> continuing current updates of 5.4

smartd queries the drive directly.  Running "fsck -c" will have caused the
drive to discover all of the unreadable sectors within that file system and
mark them as "pending reallocation".  Those sectors will remain in the
"pending" state and visibly bad to the OS until the next time they are
written.  If you were able to copy all of the files from that FS without
error, that suggests that all of the bad sectors are in free space, and
you could stimulate reallocation by filling all of the free space with
zeros:

  mount /dev/{whatever} /mnt
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/xx bs=64k
  sync
  rm /mnt/xx
  umount /mnt

Then run "smartctl -A" on the drive and see if it still reports pending
sectors.

Of course if that drive is continuing to develop new bad sectors you
should get rid of it immediately.

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Re: [CentOS] centos 4.8 dvd on virtualbox x86_64

2010-02-25 Thread John R Pierce
John R Pierce wrote:
> I just installed VirtualBox latest version on a new Win7 Pro x86_64 
> desktop, and tried to create a 64bit CentOS 4.8 install for doing some 
> procedural testing...  all install attempts hung at the samme place, 
> shortly after grub, it hangs at...
>
> Dquot-cache hash table entries: 512 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
>
> sadly, I didn't capture the rest of the console output prior to that.
>
>
> 32bit 4.8 boots and installs just fine. CPU is a Intel Core2Duo E7600 
> which supposedly has VT-x. System is a Dell Optiplex 755 (Intel G45 chipset)
>   

same configuration, CentOS 5.4 x86_64 DVD.iso boots just fine and is 
busy installing now.

must be something with the 2.6.9 64bit kernel, I guess.


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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Peter Hinse
Am 25.02.2010 21:34, schrieb Alan McKay:
> Hey folks,
> 
> Does anyone know of a rack configurator that runs on CentOS?   It does
> not have to even be very fancy - immediately I'm just looking for an
> easy way to keep track of what is in my racks, and being able to have
> a visual of it.   Maybe juggle stuff around.   Bonus if it does power
> calculations based on model numbers and so on - or data I punch in for
> each model.   But really right now some kind of very specific CAD or
> Draw tool that is specific to this purpose.  Or a template for a more
> general tool.

Hi Alan,

have a look at racktables: http://racktables.org/

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread John R Pierce
nate wrote:
> Alan McKay wrote:
>   
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Does anyone know of a rack configurator that runs on CentOS?   It does
>> not have to even be very fancy - immediately I'm just looking for an
>> easy way to keep track of what is in my racks, and being able to have
>> a visual of it.   Maybe juggle stuff around.   Bonus if it does power
>> calculations based on model numbers and so on - or data I punch in for
>> each model.   But really right now some kind of very specific CAD or
>> Draw tool that is specific to this purpose.  Or a template for a more
>> general tool.
>> 
>
> Spreadsheet?
>   

and Dia for the diagrams?


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Re: [CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread nate
Alan McKay wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Does anyone know of a rack configurator that runs on CentOS?   It does
> not have to even be very fancy - immediately I'm just looking for an
> easy way to keep track of what is in my racks, and being able to have
> a visual of it.   Maybe juggle stuff around.   Bonus if it does power
> calculations based on model numbers and so on - or data I punch in for
> each model.   But really right now some kind of very specific CAD or
> Draw tool that is specific to this purpose.  Or a template for a more
> general tool.

Spreadsheet?

nate


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[CentOS] rack configurator?

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks,

Does anyone know of a rack configurator that runs on CentOS?   It does
not have to even be very fancy - immediately I'm just looking for an
easy way to keep track of what is in my racks, and being able to have
a visual of it.   Maybe juggle stuff around.   Bonus if it does power
calculations based on model numbers and so on - or data I punch in for
each model.   But really right now some kind of very specific CAD or
Draw tool that is specific to this purpose.  Or a template for a more
general tool.

thanks,
-Alan

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[CentOS] SMARTD (?)

2010-02-25 Thread m . roth
Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was
running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and
ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server.

And SMARTD reports the sectors as "currently unreadable (pending)
sectors", and "offline uncorrectable sectors".

Does smartd cache its info somewhere, or is it reading what fsck already
marked as bad? And this has happened before, under 5.3, and under
continuing current updates of 5.4

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:11 -0600:

> I'm not sure there is any reasonable way to understand the state of 3rd 
> party repositories.  If there were, they'd probably fix their conflicts 
> and avoid them in the future...

This wasn't what I referred to. He seemed to be unaware about how Centos 
"works".

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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 02/24/2010 07:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> Err.. raid is NOT backup solution.
>> Neither is a snapshot in another location on the same machine.
> 
> Thats not true, raid is an online setup - different location could be 
> point in time, and on blockdev;s that dont share user access load. Which 

I think that, without causing any more dispute, I can point out
that "backup" covers a wide range of solutions to a less broad
but still not uniquely one set of needs. No one of the means to
backup is a full solution to all the needs which "backup" satisfies.

Even when one is using the term "backup" narrowly in the sense
of "protection from disaster", there are still different kinds
of backup. For example, there is the "full disaster recovery"
or "bare metal" backup, which is intended to work with another
piece of identical hardware, starting with blank fixed storage,
and ending up with a working system which looks identical to the
original at the epoch at which the backup was made. This is
significantly different from one intended merely to restore the
user altered or created data on a machine which has been newly
installed with a compatible version of the OS, for example.

That's why one needs to know the intended use of the backup set
before making any recommendations on procedure and content of the
backup set.

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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Mike McCarty
Agnello George wrote:
> The requirement fro backup  is not  primarily  for HDD failure , but human
> error failure . In case one of our user ( eg: the COO with huge  mailbox
> size has delete all his certain very important mails, and he want to recover
> them , the contacts us as we are supposed to maintain his mail backup for a
> week, and we should restore his backup immediately  )  this the main
> requirement  for the backup  and that too on the same server different
> partition .

Have you considered using a snapshot approach? By that, I mean one
which uses hard links to create the "backup", and as files get added/
modified, the data are copied, and links are created. Usually, one
has a snapshot directory with something like a daily snapshot, and
24 hourly ones, something like that.

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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread John Doe
From: Agnello George 
> is it possible with " brackup "  to back it up to a different server on the 
> same lan   instead of /backup  . Is there any documentation on the same .

It apparently support:
  Brackup::Target::Amazon  backup to Amazon's S3 service
  Brackup::Target::CloudFiles  backup to Rackspace's CloudFiles Service
  Brackup::Target::Filebased   
  Brackup::Target::Filesystem  backup to a locally mounted filesystem
  Brackup::Target::Ftp backup to an FTP server
  Brackup::Target::Sftpbackup to an SSH/SFTP server
So, you could use ftp or sftp...

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Re: [CentOS] mod_proxy and html rewriting

2010-02-25 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:26:29PM +, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> >mod_substitute is included in later Apache's and does a great job.  I
> >actually like it better than mod_proxy_html, since the latter has a
> >tendency to rewrite a _lot_ of stuff to make it "valid" HTML/XHTML.
> >
> >Not that that's necessarily a terrible thing, but sometimes I just want
> >to change what I told it to change...
> >
> >I used the SRPM from RHWAS to update to the latest Apache on EL5.
> 
> Great, the issue I am getting is the browser doesn't understand the
> rewritten content as a result of xhtml issues.
> 
> Rh's ftp shows httpd-2.2.8-1.el5s2.src.rpm for this rpm as latest.
> 
> I'll give a go at compiling this to try mod_substitute.

2.2.13 should be the latest...

  
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/RHWAS/SRPMS/httpd-2.2.13-2.el5s2.src.rpm

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Re: [CentOS] how to show only quota limit to users via SSH?

2010-02-25 Thread John Doe
From: Rudi Ahlers 
>Gregory, it will still show the user the whole server's disk usage, and not 
>his own file quotas. Only difference is that it does it automatically @ login. 
>And I don't want to limit the shell either.  

You could just put an alias in their.bashrc...
  alias df="/path/to/myowndf"
Put anything you want in myowndf script/program, like quota -vls...
Of course, they could bypass the alias if they really wanted to but... is that 
really a problem?

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Re: [CentOS] mod_proxy and html rewriting

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>mod_substitute is included in later Apache's and does a great job.  I
>actually like it better than mod_proxy_html, since the latter has a
>tendency to rewrite a _lot_ of stuff to make it "valid" HTML/XHTML.
>
>Not that that's necessarily a terrible thing, but sometimes I just want
>to change what I told it to change...
>
>I used the SRPM from RHWAS to update to the latest Apache on EL5.

Great, the issue I am getting is the browser doesn't understand the
rewritten content as a result of xhtml issues.

Rh's ftp shows httpd-2.2.8-1.el5s2.src.rpm for this rpm as latest.

I'll give a go at compiling this to try mod_substitute.

Thanks guys!
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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/2010 7:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Sorin, I've seen you posting on this list for a long time. There is no
> excuse that you don't know the simplest FAQs about CentOS.

I'm not sure there is any reasonable way to understand the state of 3rd 
party repositories.  If there were, they'd probably fix their conflicts 
and avoid them in the future...

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Re: [CentOS] mod_proxy and html rewriting

2010-02-25 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 09:57:16AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 2/24/2010 11:31 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> > Looks like proxying a site that uses dynamically generated urls that 
> > include the
> > bound ip of the server needs a module to rewrite links in html. Are there 
> > any mods
> > shipped in base that can do what mod_proxy_html mod_xml2enc can for this?
> 
> I don't think so.  In later httpd versions something is included in the 
> core to do content rewriting (mod_sed?), but for now you can build the 
> mod_proxy_html module with apxs and include it.

mod_substitute is included in later Apache's and does a great job.  I
actually like it better than mod_proxy_html, since the latter has a
tendency to rewrite a _lot_ of stuff to make it "valid" HTML/XHTML.

Not that that's necessarily a terrible thing, but sometimes I just want
to change what I told it to change...

I used the SRPM from RHWAS to update to the latest Apache on EL5.

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Re: [CentOS] mod_proxy and html rewriting

2010-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/24/2010 11:31 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
> Looks like proxying a site that uses dynamically generated urls that include 
> the
> bound ip of the server needs a module to rewrite links in html. Are there any 
> mods
> shipped in base that can do what mod_proxy_html mod_xml2enc can for this?

I don't think so.  In later httpd versions something is included in the 
core to do content rewriting (mod_sed?), but for now you can build the 
mod_proxy_html module with apxs and include it.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/25/2010 3:44 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I installed BackupPC on one of my Centos 5.4-machines following the wiki at
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC#head-725ed151d366bcf182cea92f765c373900cfc9dc,
> where BackupPC is installed from the c5-testing repo.
>
> r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# rpm -qa backuppc
> backuppc-3.1.0-1.el5.centos
> r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#
>
> Seeing how there's been some updates to BackupPC in the near past, I thought
> I'd run a yum update to get the updated package. That didn't work. So I
> searched pbone.net for a BackupPC package on CentOS5 but didn't find any.
> Doing the same search for RHEL5 gave me two packages (one for i386 and one for
> x86_64);  v3.1.0-5.
>   Looking more closely I saw that the RHEL5-packages were from epel, a 
> repo one
> maybe shouldn't choose as a primary repo for ones CentOS-systems if you  can
> help it. At least that's the impression I got from the various posts to this
> list.

No, epel is the best large 3rd party repo in terms of avoiding conflicts 
with the base.  They are just not perfect. It's probably impossible to 
be perfect without a single point of coordination, but you generally 
won't get in trouble leaving epel enabled during updates unless you also 
use other 3rd party repos.  They also tend not to have as current 
packages as rpmforge, though.

> I thought all packages available from the prominent American upstream provider
> got a treatment from the CentOS crew? Am I wrong or am I missing something
> really basic, or some part of the CentOS philosophy here? Or isn't BackupPC a
> package worthy of being CentOSified? 8-)

There is (was?) a version in centos-testing, but now that epel has it, 
there isn't much reason to have a duplicate.

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[CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Eero Volotinen wrote:

> Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ?
>
> Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays.

I have a full sources solution at:
ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/mirror/ORC/spamassassin/
including all side modules needed for some wierd stuff not in 
otehr packaging sets

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Re: [CentOS] getaddrinfo problem

2010-02-25 Thread Susan Day
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Alexander Dalloz

> wrote:

> Am 25.02.2010 12:53, schrieb Susan Day:
> > Hi;
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > Notice that line:
> >
> > code undefined, msg = 'getaddrinfo returns an empty list',
> >
> > What up? How do I get an address to return?
> > TIA,
> > Susan
>
> By chance, did you break /etc/hosts file by deleting the localhost mapping?
>

I see nothing amiss in this file.
Susan
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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Brian Mathis
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

> 2010/2/25 Roland RoLaNd :
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >  i have internet usage rules for all of my network.
> > only 2 servers have full access to the internet..
> > lately i've noticed that lots of traffic being produced by the servers ..
> > is there a way to know whose using port forwarding to my server so they
> access the internet ?
> > or is there a way to block people from doing such a thing ?
>
> Err. Disable ip_forward&nat on server and limit connections on main
> firewall ..
>
> --
> Eero
>
>
@Eero:
Don't be so literal.  You need to read the whole messages and understand the
problem.  Just because someone calls something "forwarding" doesn't mean
they are speaking in the literal Linux kernel sense of the word.

@Roland:
In addition to what some other posters have said, look at who is logged in
to the server at the time.  You might find some open SSH sessions that are
using port forwarding.  You can disable this by setting "AllowTcpForwarding
no" in the sshd_config, but if users have shell, it will be very difficult
to stop it.  You also might want to see if there is a proxy setup, or
something like that.
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Re: [CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread Ned Slider
Eero Volotinen wrote:
> Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ?
> 
> Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays.
> 

You could try Warren's RHEL5 builds here:

http://wtogami.livejournal.com/33674.html
http://people.redhat.com/wtogami/temp/spamassassin/3.3.0/

and if you don't like EPEL, you could probably use rpmforge to meet the 
dependencies. You could probably even rebuild the package against 
rpmforge perl packages if you are so inclined... not that I've tried any 
of the above.



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Re: [CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Eero Volotinen wrote on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:47:14 +0200:

> is there any nice way to install build requirements on buildserver?

Not sure what you mean by that, but all necessary Perl packages are 
available as rpm, for instance perl-Encode-Detect-1.01-1.el5.rf

What I usually do with SA is do a normal make and make test. That reveals 
any such dependencies and problems. If make test was successful I do the 
rpmbuild.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin, I've seen you posting on this list for a long time. There is no 
excuse that you don't know the simplest FAQs about CentOS.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
>Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:50 PM
>To: CentOS mailing list
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS
>
>[...]
>
>3.1.0-5 from one repo is not necessarily better
>than 3.1.0-1 from another: it's the same upstream code, the -5 is only
>useful for comparing within a given repo.

I had no idea...! 

Is this a general thing with most (all?) repos?

Thanks for the info!
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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread JohnS

On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 12:33 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> 
> [1] Changeset and data/system model over time relation mapping for an 
> adaptive system sizing feedback loop! ( how'se that for buzzword 
> injection! )
---
Well if you run vacum on a Postgres DB then all that goes to the
crapper...  So we resort to real time  backups or replication.  Of which
with replication on a postgres db with the 2GB Blobs being inserted
there is going to be a problem... even if you have enough shared memory
configured.  The thing is regardless you are never in RT Replication.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:44:40 +0100:
>>
>>> Doing the same search for RHEL5 gave me two packages (one for i386 and
>>> one for x86_64);  v3.1.0-5.
>>
>> Not from Red Hat.
>
> No, from epel.

epel is just another third party repo.


>>> I thought all packages available from the prominent American upstream
> provider
>>> got a treatment from the CentOS crew?
>>
>> Red Hat doesn't provide BackupPC packages.
>
> So anything (more or less) that RH provides, we also get for CentOS while
> any extra fluff like BackupPC for CentOS, is 3rd party. Did I get that
> correct?

yes, centos (base+updates) offers exactly what's in RHEL.
Centos won't rebuild stuff that's in epel, rpmforge or any other third 
party repo, these packages should work the same on rhel and centos 
precisely because centos aims to be as close to rhel as possible.


Also note that 3.1.0 is the latest stable release of backuppc. This is 
the version that you installed from c5-testing. It's also the same 
version offered in epel. 3.1.0-5 from one repo is not necessarily better 
than 3.1.0-1 from another: it's the same upstream code, the -5 is only 
useful for comparing within a given repo.
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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 02/24/2010 07:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> Err.. raid is NOT backup solution.
>> Neither is a snapshot in another location on the same machine.
> 
> Thats not true, raid is an online setup - different location could be 
> point in time, and on blockdev;s that dont share user access load. Which 
> in turn makes it easier to do intensive complete backups to offsite 
> without impacting user level of service the machine can deliver, amongst 
> other things[1].
> 
> Dont compare apples to banana's and call them oranges.

Yes and no... There's an overlapping set of possibilities that they do and 
don't 
back up.  They both cover single disk failures.  They don't cover big operator 
errors (rm -rf /), building/site disasters, some types of controller/electrical 
issues, etc.  The snapshots give you a short history that can help with small 
user/operator errors at the expense of being out of date when the live disk 
fails. So have several types of fruit to stay healthy.

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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/24/2010 07:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Err.. raid is NOT backup solution.
>
> Neither is a snapshot in another location on the same machine.

Thats not true, raid is an online setup - different location could be 
point in time, and on blockdev;s that dont share user access load. Which 
in turn makes it easier to do intensive complete backups to offsite 
without impacting user level of service the machine can deliver, amongst 
other things[1].

Dont compare apples to banana's and call them oranges.

- KB

[1] Changeset and data/system model over time relation mapping for an 
adaptive system sizing feedback loop! ( how'se that for buzzword 
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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Gavin Carr
Have you read Brackup::Manual::Overview? Your questions are all answered in 
the man pages there or linked from there.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 05:21:47PM +0530, Agnello George wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Carr  wrote:
> > Brackup will backup to local disk, or remotely to ftp, sftp, Amazon S3, or
> > Rackspace CloudFiles targets/servers. So yes, on a lan you can backup over
> > ftp or sftp just fine.
> >
> > Re docs, install brackup, 'man Brackup::Manual::Overview'. I've also
> > written
> > a few blog posts on it: http://www.openfusion.net/tags/brackup.
> >
> I am trying to install the  brackup app on my system, the documentations
> seems very helpful ( http://www.openfusion.net/net/fun_with_brackup)
> But i have a  few  queries  with the config file :
> [TARGET:backups]
> type = Filesystem
> path = /backup
> 
> [SOURCE:imapsource]
> path = /var/spool/imap
> chunk_size = 5m   # what does this mean 
> gpg_recipient = 5E1B3EC5 # what does this mean 

man Brackup::Manual::Overview; man Brackup::Root

> [SOURCE:bradhome]
> chunk_size = 64MB
> path = /raid/bradfitz/
> ignore = ^\.thumbnails/
> ignore = ^\.kde/share/thumbnails/
> ignore = ^\.ee/minis/
> ignore = ^build/
> ignore = ^(gqview|nautilus)/thumbnails/
> 
> 
> and suppose i want to backup it up to another server with scp / ssh how
> is this attatined .

man Brackup::Target::Sftp

> secondly in whant format is the backup maintained .

Backups are trees of file chunks, and a metadata file to put the chunks back 
together as files. So you get de-duplication for free between files and
across backups.

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Thursday 25 February 2010 08:18:13 Eero Volotinen wrote:
> >  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> > 0
> 
> So, problem solved?

Hmm I think he meant to show the current status of ip forwarding on his box.
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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/2/25 Roland RoLaNd :
>
>
>  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> 0

So, problem solved?

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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Thursday 25 February 2010 07:36:50 Roland RoLaNd wrote:
> lately i've noticed that lots of traffic being produced by the servers ..
> is there a way to know whose using port forwarding to my server so they
>  access the internet ?

I don't know why you use the term "port forwarding".  If I understand you 
correctly., and having said  that ip forwarding isn't turned on, you suspect 
someone is using your 2 servers to gain access to the internet"?  The only 
thing I can think of...they might be using your servers as a SOCKS proxy.   
For this , there needs to be some way to connect to these serves (SSH? 
etc...).   

Log in to these servers and do a "netstat -ntap" so you can see the 
established connections and track what programs are responsible for these.  If 
anyone is connected to your machines (from the local network) you'll see it 
there too.  Of course, I'm assuming your machines were not tampered with (that 
is, all the binaries are intact :)


Best regards,
Jorge

p.d. you can try wireshark (network sniffer)...
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Re: [CentOS] getaddrinfo problem

2010-02-25 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 25.02.2010 12:53, schrieb Susan Day:
> Hi;

[ ... ]

> Notice that line:
> 
> code undefined, msg = 'getaddrinfo returns an empty list',
> 
> What up? How do I get an address to return?
> TIA,
> Susan

By chance, did you break /etc/hosts file by deleting the localhost mapping?

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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Roland RoLaNd


 cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
0


> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 13:39:41 +0200
> From: eero.voloti...@iki.fi
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?
>
> 2010/2/25 Roland RoLaNd :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  i have internet usage rules for all of my network.
>> only 2 servers have full access to the internet..
>> lately i've noticed that lots of traffic being produced by the servers ..
>> is there a way to know whose using port forwarding to my server so they 
>> access the internet ?
>> or is there a way to block people from doing such a thing ?
>
> Err. Disable ip_forward&nat on server and limit connections on main firewall 
> ..
>
> --
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[CentOS] getaddrinfo problem

2010-02-25 Thread Susan Day
Hi;

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function
calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

 /var/www/html/mysite.com/simplemail/mail2.py
   40 
   41 '''
   42 my_mail()
   43 print '''
   44 
my_mail = 
 /var/www/html/mysite.com/simplemail/mail2.py in my_mail()
   27   to_address = ourEmail,
   28   subject = subject,
   29   message = message
   30   ).send()
   31   print 'Thank you, %s, we will get back to you shortly!' %
(name)
message = 'Name: beno -\nMessage: test'
 /var/www/html/mysite.com/simplemail/simplemail.py in
send(self=)
  344 smtp = smtplib.SMTP()
  345 if self.smtp_server:
  346 smtp.connect(self.smtp_server)
  347 else:
  348 smtp.connect()
smtp = , smtp.connect = >, self = , self.smtp_server
= 'localhost'
 /usr/lib64/python2.4/smtplib.py in connect(self=,
host='localhost', port=25)
  305 if not self.sock:
  306 raise socket.error, msg
  307 (code, msg) = self.getreply()
  308 if self.debuglevel > 0: print>>stderr, "connect:", msg
  309 return (code, msg)
code undefined, msg = 'getaddrinfo returns an empty list', self =
, self.getreply = >
 /usr/lib64/python2.4/smtplib.py in getreply(self=)
  349 if line == '':
  350 self.close()
  351 raise SMTPServerDisconnected("Connection unexpectedly
closed")
  352 if self.debuglevel > 0: print>>stderr, 'reply:',
repr(line)
  353 resp.append(line[4:].strip())
global SMTPServerDisconnected = 
SMTPServerDisconnected: Connection unexpectedly closed
  args = ('Connection unexpectedly closed',)

Notice that line:

code undefined, msg = 'getaddrinfo returns an empty list',

What up? How do I get an address to return?
TIA,
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Re: [CentOS] Backup solution to backup /var/spool/imap above 150GB data

2010-02-25 Thread Agnello George
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Carr  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 05:06:08PM +0530, Agnello George wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Eero Volotinen  >wrote:
> > > 2010/2/24 Agnello George :
> > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Gavin Carr  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >> You might want to try brackup (http://code.google.com/p/brackup/).
> For
> > > >> very
> > > >> large trees of relatively small files it seems to significantly
> > > >> out-perform
> > > >> rsync-based backups. I've got brackup packages in my repository (see
> > > >> http://www.openfusion.net/linux/openfusion_rpm_repository).
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Gavin
> > > >>
> > > > is it possible with " brackup "  to back it up to a different server
> on
> > > > the same lan   instead of /backup  . Is there any documentation on
> the
> > > > same .
> > >
> > > rsync or rdiff-backup works on local disk or remote disk.(and other
> > > backup methods too!)
> >
> > Does http://code.google.com/p/brackup/  also work in on remote machines
> .
>
> Brackup will backup to local disk, or remotely to ftp, sftp, Amazon S3, or
> Rackspace CloudFiles targets/servers. So yes, on a lan you can backup over
> ftp or sftp just fine.
>
> Re docs, install brackup, 'man Brackup::Manual::Overview'. I've also
> written
> a few blog posts on it: http://www.openfusion.net/tags/brackup.
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin
>
> I am trying to install the  brackup app on my system, the documentations
seems very helpful ( http://www.openfusion.net/net/fun_with_brackup)
But i have a  few  queries  with the config file :
[TARGET:backups]
type = Filesystem
path = /backup

[SOURCE:imapsource]
path = /var/spool/imap
chunk_size = 5m   # what does this mean 
gpg_recipient = 5E1B3EC5 # what does this mean 

[SOURCE:bradhome]
chunk_size = 64MB
path = /raid/bradfitz/
ignore = ^\.thumbnails/
ignore = ^\.kde/share/thumbnails/
ignore = ^\.ee/minis/
ignore = ^build/
ignore = ^(gqview|nautilus)/thumbnails/


and suppose i want to backup it up to another server with scp / ssh how
is this attatined .
secondly in whant format is the backup maintained .

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message-
>From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
>Of Kai Schaetzl
>Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:32 PM
>To: centos@centos.org
>Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS
>
>Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:44:40 +0100:
>
>> Doing the same search for RHEL5 gave me two packages (one for i386 and
one
>for
>> x86_64);  v3.1.0-5.
>
>Not from Red Hat.

No, from epel.


>> I thought all packages available from the prominent American upstream
provider
>> got a treatment from the CentOS crew?
>
>Red Hat doesn't provide BackupPC packages.

So anything (more or less) that RH provides, we also get for CentOS while
any extra fluff like BackupPC for CentOS, is 3rd party. Did I get that
correct?
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Re: [CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/2/25 Bazy :
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Eero Volotinen  wrote:
>> Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ?
>>
>> Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays.
>>
>> --
>> Eero
>
> Hello Eero,
>
> You can go to http://spamassassin.apache.org, click on Download, get
> the latest tarball and follow the instructions on how to build a RPM
> package. It includes "rpmbuild -tb Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.gz".

Thanks, but build requirements are missing from this way like:

NOTE: the optional Encode::Detect module is not installed.

  If you plan to use the normalize_charset config setting to detect
  charsets and convert them into Unicode, you will need to install
  this module.

REQUIRED module missing: NetAddr::IP
optional module missing: Digest::SHA
optional module missing: Mail::SPF
optional module missing: IP::Country
optional module missing: Razor2
optional module missing: Net::Ident
optional module missing: Mail::DKIM
optional module missing: Encode::Detect

is there any nice way to install build requirements on buildserver?

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Re: [CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread Bazy
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Eero Volotinen  wrote:
> Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ?
>
> Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays.
>
> --
> Eero

Hello Eero,

You can go to http://spamassassin.apache.org, click on Download, get
the latest tarball and follow the instructions on how to build a RPM
package. It includes "rpmbuild -tb Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0.tar.gz".

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/2/25 Roland RoLaNd :
>
> Hello,
>
>  i have internet usage rules for all of my network.
> only 2 servers have full access to the internet..
> lately i've noticed that lots of traffic being produced by the servers ..
> is there a way to know whose using port forwarding to my server so they 
> access the internet ?
> or is there a way to block people from doing such a thing ?

Err. Disable ip_forward&nat on server and limit connections on main firewall ..

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[CentOS] block port forwarding?

2010-02-25 Thread Roland RoLaNd

Hello,

 i have internet usage rules for all of my network.
only 2 servers have full access to the internet..
lately i've noticed that lots of traffic being produced by the servers ..
is there a way to know whose using port forwarding to my server so they access 
the internet ?
or is there a way to block people from doing such a thing ?
  
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[CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?

2010-02-25 Thread Eero Volotinen
Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ?

Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays.

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Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:44:40 +0100:

> Doing the same search for RHEL5 gave me two packages (one for i386 and one 
> for 
> x86_64);  v3.1.0-5.

Not from Red Hat.

> I thought all packages available from the prominent American upstream 
> provider 
> got a treatment from the CentOS crew?

Red Hat doesn't provide BackupPC packages.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] Desperately need help with multi-core NIC performance

2010-02-25 Thread J.Witvliet
 

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desperately need help with multi-core NIC performance

Pete Kay wrote:
> Hi
>
> So is that the limit?  I have heard people being able to run like 10K 
> call channels before max out CPU cap.

I would verify the network throughput of your system to make sure the 
NIC/switch/etc are functioning normally, I use iperf to do this, really simple 
tool to use just need two systems.

On a good network you should be able to sustain roughly 900+Mbit/s with 
standard frame sizes and iperf on a single gigE link(hopefully with no tuning)


Just for reference...
On a slightly less-then-optimal network i could get 900Mbps between an HP DL380 
and an old IBM-T43, both with 1Gb nics and no tuning at all, through corporate 
network.

Between two DL380 with 10GB nics i got a performance boost (2500Mb -> 6500Mb) 
after i raised the MTU to 8K

hw

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Re: [CentOS] Recommended PCIe SATA/SAS Controller?

2010-02-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/25/2010 12:31 AM, Christopher Chan wrote:
>>
>> I need to purchase a PCIe SATA or SAS controller(non-raid) for a Supermicro 
>> 2U system. It should be directly bootable. Any recommendations? The system 
>> will be running CentOS 5.4 as an LTSP system. Thanks!
>>
>
> Anything that uses a Silicon Image 3124 chip would do.

Just want to point out that most Jmicron kit makes for an excellent 
sata/sas port -> system bus; if all you need are ports to plug into. 
They have been ahci compatible for a long long time ( which means, just 
works in CentOS3, 4 or 5 ).

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[CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS

2010-02-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

I installed BackupPC on one of my Centos 5.4-machines following the wiki at 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BackupPC#head-725ed151d366bcf182cea92f765c373900cfc9dc,
 
where BackupPC is installed from the c5-testing repo.

r...@mach012 ~/ [0]# rpm -qa backuppc
backuppc-3.1.0-1.el5.centos
r...@mach012 ~/ [0]#

Seeing how there's been some updates to BackupPC in the near past, I thought 
I'd run a yum update to get the updated package. That didn't work. So I 
searched pbone.net for a BackupPC package on CentOS5 but didn't find any. 
Doing the same search for RHEL5 gave me two packages (one for i386 and one for 
x86_64);  v3.1.0-5.
Looking more closely I saw that the RHEL5-packages were from epel, a 
repo one 
maybe shouldn't choose as a primary repo for ones CentOS-systems if you  can 
help it. At least that's the impression I got from the various posts to this 
list.

I thought all packages available from the prominent American upstream provider 
got a treatment from the CentOS crew? Am I wrong or am I missing something 
really basic, or some part of the CentOS philosophy here? Or isn't BackupPC a 
package worthy of being CentOSified? 8-)

Thanks.
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