[CentOS-docs] Wikisource of original docs
Hello, When it comes to translations, it would be useful to have the original sources. Is there any place for us translators to pick up a copy? We do not have edit access to originals. TIA -- Eduardo Grosclaude Universidad Nacional del Comahue Neuquen, Argentina ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wikisource of original docs
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, When it comes to translations, it would be useful to have the original sources. Is there any place for us translators to pick up a copy? We do not have edit access to originals. Try adding a '?action=raw' to the URL. Is this what you are referring to as the originals ? Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-virt] moving from Xen to KVM
- Dave Augustus da...@ingraftedsoftware.com wrote: I finally realized that when running Xen and in Dom0, Xen hides the AMD-V in /proc/cpuinfo Really? dom0: flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc pni monitor cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy guest: flags : fpu tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc pni monitor cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy (...more reasons to move to KVM) I have a hunch that you are going to do whatever you are told to do and that you really have no idea what is going on. Can we get more Hey, I'm told KVM is cool so I'm migrating all of my production servers to it because the free OS of my choice may not support it in a year or two after I leave my current suckjob position and I hear, since I don't read mainline kernel mailing lists religiously and keep only a superficial idea in my head about kernel development, since I really have no idea what 'kernel development' means, that KVM is the only Jesus-approved way of doing things threads? None of you seem to have have a head for any of this, it seems. Maybe you're just working for Billy's Interwebs-r-Us and keeping Sally's Nail Shop going strong, but the last time I checked, the ent in CentOS stood for enterprise. Here are a few tips: 1. Fuck KVM. 2. Stick with Xen because there is quite a lot of time until 5 is EOL'd and if you haven't noticed, it's actually a mature technology. 3. Figure out what you are going to do with Sally's Nail Shop in the meantime. If you have time to fuck everything up in your environment with KVM, you can probably save 20% or more optimizing your environment and even more with proper capital investments and training. 4. Figure out how either a) non-critical/enterprise services would ever be served by KVM's features or lack thereof, or b) you are going to CYA when you can't guarantee an SLA. 5. Spend more time on KVM dev lists instead of posting here and annoying others with your butthurt KVM-won't-work posts, as it's not even supported upstream. -- Christopher G. Stach II http://ldsys.net/~cgs/ ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] guest management: 1 and only 1 instance
- Christopher Hunt dharmach...@gmail.com wrote: Gang, I run several KVM host machines. Due to updates, maintenance, and unexpected reboots sometime host machines are restarted. I can easily envision a scenario where HostX needs some critical packages updated or is acting up. I migrate guest0, guest1, guest2 etc. from HostX to HostY. Then, in either a planned (i.e. scheduled maintenance) or unplanned (i.e. unplanned reboot) event reboots HostX. Unfortunately guest0, guest1 and guest2 are all set to autostart on HostX but they're currently running on HostY when HostX boots etc etc etc Is anyone using effective packages, scripts or techniques which help maintain that all guest are running once and only once across a cluster of KVM hosts? I have been using virt-manager but it's not automated so much... Red Hat Cluster Suite Heartbeat etc. Or, if you want to roll your own, just run a MySQL instance or two, use SERIALIZABLE isolation, poll guest lists with ``xm info'' or whatever you want, store the info in MySQL, etc. Should take about an hour if you start from scratch. It's easier with other DBs, or even files and lockfiles, but it really depends on your experience. If you're asking this, something SQL is probably the easiest. Heck, just do it in bash, cron, and ssh. -- Christopher G. Stach II http://ldsys.net/~cgs/ ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] moving from Xen to KVM
KVM works. I'm happy with it. But then I build servers with 6 guests or less for small businesses. There are comparisons. They say KVM doesn't scale as well. They say in some areas xen shines, and in some areas kvm shines. But the comparisons are all from last year before red hat released 5.4. RHEL 5.5, which includes many improvements will be out shortly. Think I'll stick with it... ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
Re: [CentOS-virt] moving from Xen to KVM
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: Xen HVM guests require CPU virtualization extensions ... snip ... and enabled in the BIOS. This seems obvious but has caught me before, wasting some time. Dell PowerEdge systems seem to ship with virt disabled in the bios. -Iain -- -- - Iain Morris iain.t.mor...@gmail.com ___ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
[CentOS-es] (sin asunto)
Hola muy buenas estoy intentando montar un dns local por primera vez ya que nunca me ha echo falta pero ahora lo quiero montar para aprender y demás y he seguido este manual que está bastante bien para la version 9.10: http://ubuntumexico.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=5774 He seguido al pie de la letra el manual desde el nombre del equipo junto con el dominio(FQDN) menos la ip que yo utilizo otro rango pero vamos se sustituye en todos lados que se tenga que sustituir y ya está. Lo he echo todo igual pero cuando reinicio el servicio me reporta el siguiente error: r...@server:/etc/default# /etc/init.d/bind9 restart * Stopping domain name service... bind9 rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused [ OK ] * Starting domain name service... bind9 He buscado en google pero nosé porque puede estar pasando esto. Si alguien me puede echar una mano, es la primera vez que monto un dns y al principio estoy un poco verde. Un saludo a todos. Aunque el manual es para ubuntu, se puede implementar igual para Centos los archivos de configuracion son los mismos simplemente que se instalan de diferente manera. Espero que no sea eso un problema. -- Maykel Administrador de sistemas UNIX y Windows ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] (sin asunto)
On 02/26/2010 06:49 AM, Maykel Franco Hernandez wrote: demás y he seguido este manual que está bastante bien para la version 9.10: http://ubuntumexico.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=5774 He seguido al pie de la letra el manual desde el nombre del equipo junto con el dominio(FQDN) menos la ip que yo utilizo otro rango pero vamos se sustituye en todos lados que se tenga que sustituir y ya está. Lo he echo todo igual pero cuando reinicio el servicio me reporta el siguiente error: r...@server:/etc/default# /etc/init.d/bind9 restart * Stopping domain name service... bind9 qué raro, el servicio ni se llama así en centos ni da una salida similar ni centos tiene todavia una version 9, sino que va por la 5 pero muy sólido y estable. Esta es una lista de centos... te puedo recomendar un howto que puse para centos aqui: este es para un dns de zona, no creo que sea el que necesites: http://www.ecualug.org/2008/10/07/comos/%C2%BFc%C3%B3mo_configurar_un_servidor_de_dns_de_zona_en_centos_linux este es para un dns de cache, pienso que será el que necesites: http://www.ecualug.org/2008/10/07/comos/%C2%BFcomo_configurar_un_servidor_de_dns_de_cache_en_centos_linux ultimamente he estado utilizando el maradns con muy buenos resultados para ambos tipos de dns y pronto pondré un howto, es mucho mas simple el proceso saludos epe rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused [ OK ] * Starting domain name service... bind9 He buscado en google pero nosé porque puede estar pasando esto. Si alguien me puede echar una mano, es la primera vez que monto un dns y al principio estoy un poco verde. Un saludo a todos. Aunque el manual es para ubuntu, se puede implementar igual para Centos los archivos de configuracion son los mismos simplemente que se instalan de diferente manera. Espero que no sea eso un problema. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] migrar de redhat 9 a centos
On 02/25/2010 09:50 PM, Jose R. Lara wrote:
Saludos a todos en la lista,
Actualmente tengo red hat 9 en las listalaciones y servidores de producción,
pero debido a que ya hace mucho tiempo esta distribución ya no cuenta con
soporte, me gustaría migrar estos servidores a Centos, en los servidores de
Red Hat 9 tengo corriendo básicamente Shorewall, Squid + SquidGuard.
aqui puse hace varios años como migrar facilmente de rh9 a rhel3
(centos3) centos 3 tiene todavia unos meses de soporte, una vez migrado
a centos3 puedes intentar actualizar a centos4 que tiene todavia unos
2.5 años más de soporte.
http://www.ecualug.org/2005/06/07/blog/co2pd/como_actualizar_rh9_a_centos_3_de_forma_remota_online
otra variante:
http://www.ecualug.org/2004/07/22/comos/centos/como_actualizar_rh9_y_7_x_con_enterprise_linux
saludos
epe
Pude ver en la pagina que centos cuenta con varios Cd’s a diferencia de Red
Hat que solo eran 3. me dicen que Centos se puede bajar en un DVD que
contiene compilados los cd’s completos.
Alguien me puede pasar un link para bajar el DVD.
Muchas Gracias de antemano,
Jose Lara
From: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Cesar Erices
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:27 PM
To: centos-es@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda con firewall y squid
muy bueno eñ documento gracias
El 25 de febrero de 2010 19:44, David Rosado T.bleyckl...@gmail.com
escribió:
Mira este documento tambien, es muy bueno:
http://www.com-sl.org/staticpages/index.php?page=config-shorewall
Suerte..
El 24 de febrero de 2010 20:36, Raul Arboledaraularbol...@une.net.co
escribió:
Gracias amigos feliz dia
Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zapata
Ingeniero de Sistemas Unninca
Cel +573 300 620 66 13
+573 312 288 90 86
Medellín, Antioquia
Colombia, S.A.
-Mensaje original-
De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En
nombre de Gol D. Roger
Enviado el: martes, 23 de febrero de 2010 13:53
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Ayuda con firewall y squid
Los archivos templates ya vienen con el shorewall ojo.
/usr/share/doc/shorewall-3.4.6/Samples/
two-interfaces en tu caso
hay para 1,2 y 3 tarjetas de red
cp
/usr/share/doc/shorewall-4.0.11/Samples/two-interfaces/{interfaces,policy,ma
sq,routestopped,rules,zones}
/etc/shorewall/
Saluda
ATTE
Jean Paul Cesari V.
Quoting Xavier Mauricio Tirado L.xtir...@ambiente.gov.ec:
Estimados,
Para esto encontrarán excelentes guías en alcancelibre el colega
que ha preparado estas páginas es un gran colaborador, a quien de
paso agradezco.
Y si me permiten un consejo, si tu quieres los archivos, no te
serviran de mucho, cada instalación es personalizada a cada
solución, deberías tratar de entender como funciona cada archivo de
shorewall. Yo he trabajado mucho tiempo directamente con iptables en
crudo, me agrada, me es fácil, pero para usuarios noveles y otros
shorewall es una excelente herramienta, pero si ni el concepto de
firewall ni de proxy tienes claro, no esperes que la copia de
archivos te soluciones el problema en cuestion. (por favor tomenlo
como consejo sano). De cualquier forma estamos para colaborar y
atender las dudas de todos así que cuenta con ello.
http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/como-shorewall-3-interface
http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/como-shorewall-3-interfac
e%0As-red
s-red
para squid tengo reglas muy conocidas, sacadas de ecualug. gracias
nuevamente compañeros.
*Xavier Mauricio Tirado L.*
Unidad de Infraestructura
DIRECCION TECNOLÓGICA
*MINISTERIO DEL AMBIENTE*
email: xtir...@ambiente.gov.ec
Telefax: (593 2) 2563487
*www.ambiente.gov.ec*
César CRUZ ARRUNATEGUI escribió:
nosotros tampoco tenemos tiempo.. pero si hay una compensacion
economica podermos evitarte el esfuerzo.. asi que cuando das por
los archivos configurados?
César - Mensaje original -
De: Raul Arboledaraularbol...@une.net.co
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Enviados: Martes, 23 de Febrero 2010 0:18:45 GMT -05:00 Colombia
Asunto: [CentOS-es] Ayuda con firewall y squid
Hola Amigos disculpen que los meleste yo se que algunos de ustedes
ya tiene esto configurado y la verdad es que no tengo mucho tiempo
para hacerlo. Si alguno de ustedes me puede hacer el favor de
enviarme los archivos de configuración de shorewall y squid con dos
tarjetas de red y que filtre salidas a Messenger se o agradecería.
Si a alguno le disgusta hacer esto le rogaría se abstuviera de sus
comentarios. Gracias. Saludos Raúl Eduardo Arboleda Zap ata
Ingeniero de Sistemas Unninca Cel +573 300 620 66 13 +573 312 288
90 86 Medellín, Antioquia Colombia, S.A.
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[CentOS-es] Help
Amigo no se si me pueden apoyar instruyendome a montar un servidor Web o con algun manual, tambien les pediria que por favor cual de las versiones es mejor en un servidor web o si no me pueden enviar gracias por buestras ayuda ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Help
MArcial : Si ya tienes instalado Centos entonces basta con correr el demonio httpd con : /etc/init,d/httpd [start | stop | restart ] una vez iniciado el server entonces puedes comprobarlo con http://localhost/desde FF Para configurarlo puedes hacerlo desde /etc/httpd/httpd.conf Y con eso sera suficiente, ya ke si kieres personalizarlo mas, solo basta con preguntarle a G! SALu2 Espero haber sido de ayuda... -- xOCh 210 ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Help
desearia saber que tan bueno es cherokee, un server web q dicen q esta muy bueno, la otra vez lo probe, pero como q no me familiarizo mucho, pero dicen q es mas rapido q apache, agradecria su info amigosa linuxistas... El 26 de febrero de 2010 12:35, xOChilpili xochilp...@gmail.com escribió: MArcial : Si ya tienes instalado Centos entonces basta con correr el demonio httpd con : /etc/init,d/httpd [start | stop | restart ] una vez iniciado el server entonces puedes comprobarlo con http://localhost/ desde FF Para configurarlo puedes hacerlo desde /etc/httpd/httpd.conf Y con eso sera suficiente, ya ke si kieres personalizarlo mas, solo basta con preguntarle a G! SALu2 Espero haber sido de ayuda... -- xOCh 210 ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Edgar Rodolfo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Edgarr789 http://nicopiero.blogspot.com ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?
2010/2/25 R P Herrold herr...@centos.org: On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Eero Volotinen wrote: Is there any good rpm source for latest spamassassin for centos/rhel ? Currently using from dag's, but is is a bit old version nowdays. I have a full sources solution at: ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/mirror/ORC/spamassassin/ including all side modules needed for some wierd stuff not in otehr packaging sets Looks good, but is the final version of package .3.3 also available instead of rc1? .. and how to build spamassassin including all modules? Directory contains lot of files, or do I need to build each package and then just install? -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS
epel is the best large 3rd party repo in terms of avoiding conflicts with the base. Yeah, I noticed that with rpmforge. I was just under the impression that epel was a bit dodgy as repos come. Never too late to be enlightened though. ;-) the following is my opinion, and nothing else: epel doesn't use a repository tag in their RPM names. this makes it hard to use with other repositories. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Bandwith limiting
I found out how to limit all traffic on a give nic: [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 1:0 root dsmark indices 1 default_index 0 [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 2:0 parent 1:0 tbf burst 2048 limit 2048 mtu 1514 rate 3200bps But I do not know how to persist this. Trying to understand: http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/Traffic-Control-tcng-HTB-HOWTO/examples. html And the following files: /etc/iproute2 /etc/iproute2/ematch_map /etc/iproute2/rt_dsfield /etc/iproute2/rt_protos /etc/iproute2/rt_realms /etc/iproute2/rt_scopes /etc/iproute2/rt_tables /etc/sysconfig/cbq /etc/sysconfig/cbq/avpkt /etc/sysconfig/cbq/cbq-.example I am lost. Any suggestions? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bandwith limiting
Greetings, On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 1:0 root dsmark indices 1 default_index 0 [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 2:0 parent 1:0 tbf burst 2048 limit 2048 mtu 1514 rate 3200bps Gee Thanks! :) But I do not know how to persist this. perhaps in the rc.local file? regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getaddrinfo problem
From: Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com A problem occurred in a Python script. code undefined, msg = 'getaddrinfo returns an empty list', Did you check that your mail server is listening? JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Email Problem
Hi; The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ @40004b87b3d4338af434 status: local 0/10 remote 0/255 @40004b87b3d4338d4dc4 end msg 97881462 [root qmail-send]# tail lock [root qmail-send]# tail state [root qmail-send]# ps wax|grep qmail 7759 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-send 7761 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-pop3d 7763 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd 8011 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qmail 21589 ?S 0:00 qmail-send 21590 ?S 0:00 tcpserver -H -R -v -c100 0 110 qmail-popup mail.13gems.com /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw qmail-pop3d Maildir 21591 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d 21593 ?S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l mail.13gems.com-x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 30 -u 508 -g 503 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd mail.13gems.com /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /usr/bin/true 21595 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd 21596 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-send 21597 ?S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir 21598 ?S 0:00 qmail-rspawn 21601 ?S 0:00 qmail-clean [root qmail-send]# qmailctl stat /service/qmail-send: up (pid 21589) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 21596) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 21593) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 21595) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 21590) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 21591) 60864 seconds messages in queue: 0 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? TIA, Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: Hi; The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ remote end accepted message. messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? Remote smtp server is not working correctly or spamfilter on it kills message? Note that it can take a bit time until gmail delivers it to mailbox. -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Susan Day wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:21:01 -0400: [root qmail-send]# tail current Hello, I would appreciate if you could stop to send all your software problems to this list. Most of your problems seem to be qmail-related, please go to a qmail list for these. Thanks. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote: 2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: Hi; The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ remote end accepted message. messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? Remote smtp server is not working correctly or spamfilter on it kills message? No. Note that it can take a bit time until gmail delivers it to mailbox. Gmail's very quick and it's been an hour now. Usually takes a second. Another very strange thing about this is that the contact page refreshes to itself when I try to email (through the form elt). If I pull the email send stuff out of the script where the form goes, it doesn't refresh to itself; rather, it prints what is written in the script to print. With respect to Kai's suggestion I find a qmail list, I'm sorry to say there don't appear to be ANY discussion lists for ANY email servers that are active. I'm desperate to get this working. TIA, Suzie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bandwith limiting
-Original Message- From: Rajagopal Swaminathan Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:12 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Bandwith limiting Greetings, On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 1:0 root dsmark indices 1 default_index 0 [r...@mirrors html]# tc qdisc add dev eth1 handle 2:0 parent 1:0 tbf burst 2048 limit 2048 mtu 1514 rate 3200bps Gee Thanks! :) But I do not know how to persist this. perhaps in the rc.local file? I am sure there is a proper file for this. Just like iptables, routing, etc. regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: 2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: Hi; The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ remote end accepted message. messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? Remote smtp server is not working correctly or spamfilter on it kills message? No. Note that it can take a bit time until gmail delivers it to mailbox. Gmail's very quick and it's been an hour now. Usually takes a second. Another very strange thing about this is that the contact page refreshes to itself when I try to email (through the form elt). If I pull the email send stuff out of the script where the form goes, it doesn't refresh to itself; rather, it prints what is written in the script to print. With respect to Kai's suggestion I find a qmail list, I'm sorry to say there don't appear to be ANY discussion lists for ANY email servers that are active. I'm desperate to get this working. TIA, Suzie qmail is very old and not under development anymore. You should migrate your system to postfix. (if topic is unfamiliar, please use consult to perform this migration) -- Eero, RHCE ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote: qmail is very old and not under development anymore. You should migrate your system to postfix. postfix isn't supported either. At least I have some experience with qmail. Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 08:57 -0400, Susan Day wrote: snip With respect to Kai's suggestion I find a qmail list, I'm sorry to say there don't appear to be ANY discussion lists for ANY email servers that are active. I'm desperate to get this working. TIA, Suzie How about qmail-h...@list.cr.yp.to There is also a postfix list as well. Cheers, B.J. CentOS 5.4, Linux 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5 athlon 08:13:27 up 4 days, 11:53, 1 user, load average: 0.30, 0.27, 0.24 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: qmail is very old and not under development anymore. You should migrate your system to postfix. postfix isn't supported either. At least I have some experience with qmail. postfix has a very active mailing list -- the originator and primary developer, Wietse Venema,responds to posts quite often, as well as many other postfix experts. http://www.postfix.org/lists.html Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Susan Day wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote: 2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: Hi; The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ remote end accepted message. messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? Remote smtp server is not working correctly or spamfilter on it kills message? No. How do you know? Remote end accepted responsibility. If it does not get delivered, it is their problem. Note that it can take a bit time until gmail delivers it to mailbox. Gmail's very quick and it's been an hour now. Usually takes a second. Check spam box. Contact gmail postmaster. Nothing to do with the qmail installation. Another very strange thing about this is that the contact page refreshes to itself when I try to email (through the form elt). If I pull the email send stuff out of the script where the form goes, it doesn't refresh to itself; rather, it prints what is written in the script to print. With respect to Kai's suggestion I find a qmail list, I'm sorry to say there don't appear to be ANY discussion lists for ANY email servers that are active. I'm desperate to get this working. You are mistaken. The qmail list and the postfix list are very much active. Only sendmail does not have a discussion list. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
B.J. McClure wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 08:57 -0400, Susan Day wrote: snip With respect to Kai's suggestion I find a qmail list, I'm sorry to say there don't appear to be ANY discussion lists for ANY email servers that are active. I'm desperate to get this working. TIA, Suzie How about qmail-h...@list.cr.yp.to That would be the wrong list. qm...@list.cr.yp.to would the correct one. Send email to qmail-subscr...@list.cr.yp.to to subscribe. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jeff jlar...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: qmail is very old and not under development anymore. You should migrate your system to postfix. postfix isn't supported either. At least I have some experience with qmail. postfix has a very active mailing list -- the originator and primary developer, Wietse Venema,responds to posts quite often, as well as many other postfix experts. http://www.postfix.org/lists.html Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Same with cr.yp.to's list. No. If they worked I'd be there. Here's my question again: The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remote suzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ @40004b87b3d4338af434 status: local 0/10 remote 0/255 @40004b87b3d4338d4dc4 end msg 97881462 [root qmail-send]# tail lock [root qmail-send]# tail state [root qmail-send]# ps wax|grep qmail 7759 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-send 7761 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-pop3d 7763 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd 8011 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qmail 21589 ?S 0:00 qmail-send 21590 ?S 0:00 tcpserver -H -R -v -c100 0 110 qmail-popup mail.13gems.com/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw qmail-pop3d Maildir 21591 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d 21593 ?S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l mail.13gems.com -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 30 -u 508 -g 503 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd mail.13gems.com /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /usr/bin/true 21595 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd 21596 ?S 0:00 multilog t s10 n20 /var/log/qmail/qmail-send 21597 ?S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir 21598 ?S 0:00 qmail-rspawn 21601 ?S 0:00 qmail-clean [root qmail-send]# qmailctl stat /service/qmail-send: up (pid 21589) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 21596) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 21593) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 21595) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 21590) 60864 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 21591) 60864 seconds messages in queue: 0 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 Why? TIA, Susan Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: qmail is very old and not under development anymore. You should migrate your system to postfix. postfix isn't supported either. At least I have some experience with qmail. Susan Postfix is under active development, qmail is not developed anymore by original author. If you want live with qmail, maybe you can use consult to solve your problems with qmail. -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Same with cr.yp.to's list. No. If they worked I'd be there. Here's my question again: The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remotesuzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ Please stop spamming centos mailing list with same question. As I said line 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184586_6si3416200pxi.53/ means that message is delivered to remote smtp server. It's not your mailserver problem after that. -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
postfix has a very active mailing list -- the originator and primary developer, Wietse Venema,responds to posts quite often, as well as many other postfix experts. http://www.postfix.org/lists.html Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Same with cr.yp.to's list. No. If they worked I'd be there. Here's my question again: Sorry, I do not see your post on the qmail list. Certainly not last week nor in January either. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: postfix has a very active mailing list -- the originator and primary developer, Wietse Venema,responds to posts quite often, as well as many other postfix experts. http://www.postfix.org/lists.html Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Same with cr.yp.to's list. No. If they worked I'd be there. Here's my question again: Sorry, I do not see your post on the qmail list. Certainly not last week nor in January either. Nor any post on the postfix list for that matter according to the postfix list archive. Too much traffic for you to stay subscribed I bet. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Susan Day wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:25:38 -0400: Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Maybe that's because of the nature of your questions. I get the impression that you are mostly asking very basic questions that a sysadmin *should* know or at least know how to google them up. I get the impression that you are not trying hard enough to understand your software. You cannot just throw any problem you encounter at the next list you find. For your last two questions (about the python script and this one which also seems to be related to a script you wrote or use) I get the impression that in both cases you simply may have bugs in the code or use it incorrectly. These are then not questions for a mailing list about the MTA nor for this list, but problems with your code and it might be more helpful to ask on a mailing list/newsgroup for coders of that language. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Dear Susan, Susan Day sent a missive on 2010-02-26: Here's my question again: The following message appears to have been sent, but in fact never does reach their destination: That's not a correct statement - your email does reach google as can be seen from your qmail log [root qmail-send]# tail current @40004b87b3d3392cbddc new msg 97881462 @40004b87b3d3392cc5ac info msg 97881462: bytes 531 from suzieprogram...@gmail.com qp 23629 uid 508 @40004b87b3d33b7f700c starting delivery 4: msg 97881462 to remotesuzieprogram...@gmail.com @40004b87b3d33b7f7bc4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/255 @40004b87b3d4338aec64 delivery 4: success: 209.85.216.35_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_OK_1267184 5 86_6si3416200pxi.53/ This ip address is google's and the remote host accepted the mail. whois 209.85.216.35 [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] OrgName:Google Inc. @40004b87b3d4338af434 status: local 0/10 remote 0/255 @40004b87b3d4338d4dc4 end msg 97881462 SNIP Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Also I think that if you are using a script to generate the email then ensure that you are creating the required headers and that your mail conforms to the rfc. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further HTH Simon. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Susan Day wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:25:38 -0400: Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Maybe that's because of the nature of your questions. I get the impression that you are mostly asking very basic questions that a sysadmin *should* know or at least know how to google them up. I get the impression that you are not trying hard enough to understand your software. You cannot just throw any problem you encounter at the next list you find. For your last two questions (about the python script and this one which also seems to be related to a script you wrote or use) I get the impression that in both cases you simply may have bugs in the code or use it incorrectly. These are then not questions for a mailing list about the MTA nor for this list, but problems with your code and it might be more helpful to ask on a mailing list/newsgroup for coders of that language. Give her a break. Programmers always have a hard time picking up on the system admin side of things. I have had my fights with programmers. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Susan Day wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:25:38 -0400: Sorry, but this has NOT been my experience. I just tried that list __last_week__ and __no__ responses, no activity, either. Maybe that's because of the nature of your questions. I get the impression that you are mostly asking very basic questions that a sysadmin *should* know or at least know how to google them up. I get the snip Give her a break. Programmers always have a hard time picking up on the system admin side of things. I have had my fights with programmers. I agree. I've spent a good bit more of my career as a programmer than as a sysadmin, and in both cases, I expect the system software to *work* as expected, and when it doesn't, I find it tends to be truly obscure errors that senior admins scratch their heads over. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# I didn't receive any message. Time for domainkeys? TIA, Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] question on kvm
I had used and old kvm-87 on centos 5.4 x86_64 I was wanting ot update that and use the newer qemu-kvm-0.12.3 I downloaded that and everything was good there - but the kernel modules are not included. So I downloaded (or started to download) kvm-kvod something... but there is nothing there for 2.6.18? How do I get the correct 2.6.18 version? Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# I didn't receive any message. Time for domainkeys? TIA, Susan PS. These emails never reach my spam box, either! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
2010/2/26 Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# I didn't receive any message. Time for domainkeys? TIA, Susan PS. These emails never reach my spam box, either! Well. Gmail can kill this kind of test messages and messages that look like spam. (messages with incorrect headers and so) -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: snip PS. These emails never reach my spam box, either! I'm not really up on it, but it looks good to me. At this point, it *looks* like it's in google's ballpark, Suzie. Time to contact their support, and ask wtfo. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] question on kvm
Jerry Geis wrote: I had used and old kvm-87 on centos 5.4 x86_64 I was wanting ot update that and use the newer qemu-kvm-0.12.3 I downloaded that and everything was good there - but the kernel modules are not included. So I downloaded (or started to download) kvm-kvod something... but there is nothing there for 2.6.18? How do I get the correct 2.6.18 version? Jerry I just wont go bleading edge... I just did yum install kmod-kvm instead... sorry to have taken space. Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. You can also try to send mail to your google address by hand i.e. telnet to google's mail platform on port 25 and mimic the smtp conversation by hand to see if you can get any further I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: snip PS. These emails never reach my spam box, either! I'm not really up on it, but it looks good to me. At this point, it *looks* like it's in google's ballpark, Suzie. Time to contact their support, and ask wtfo. Thanks, all Suzie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:32:46PM +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Susan Day wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:21:01 -0400: [root qmail-send]# tail current Hello, I would appreciate if you could stop to send all your software problems to this list. Most of your problems seem to be qmail-related, please go to a qmail list for these. Thanks. Kai And please, stop send mails with html encoding. -- Dominik Zyla pgpwNJMOd9FbJ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# You didn't create a body to your email! The proper way to send an email through SMTP is: DATA 354 go ahead From: Susan Day su...@mydomain.com To: Susan Day susieprogram...@gmail.com Subject: Test This is a test only a test. . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit -Ross ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:01:28 +0800: Programmers always have a hard time picking up on the system admin side of things. Still they should be able to find the best avenue for their questions, or not? Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: And please, stop send mails with html encoding. -- Dominik Zyla No, do not stop sending emails with HTML encoding. Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:01:28 +0800: Programmers always have a hard time picking up on the system admin side of things. Still they should be able to find the best avenue for their questions, or not? Fair question. But we don't have to imply certain things. Some people are just touchy not lazy. Hard to deal with the first and bring out the cane for the second when proven. Of course, the clue-by-four should be brought at all times so that we can determine which it is. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34:34AM -0400, Susan Day wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. SPF Co. is a reaction to spam proliferation. You'd better thank the spammers. :-) Mihai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Brian Mathis wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: And please, stop send mails with html encoding. -- Dominik Zyla No, do not stop sending emails with HTML encoding. Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. Do we have to get into this one? Wave to all the mutt users who just love html tags. Oh, also we should follow the rules of the list so I suppose you can tell me where it says use html on this list and get a capable reader if you do not have one. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:34:34AM -0400, Susan Day wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Simon Billis si...@houxou.com wrote: Why? That is a good question - I guess that google's email system thinks you're sending them spam. If you want your mail to be accepted you may need to have implemented SPF and domainkeys. Oh, lovely. As if I didn't have enough work to do...Thanks, google. SPF Co. is a reaction to spam proliferation. You'd better thank the spammers. :-) Yes, I think they would love to get a nuke for a gift. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: And please, stop send mails with html encoding. No, do not stop sending emails with HTML encoding. Yes, *DO* stop. Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. Why, so it can spread viruses and trojans easily? mark, who has all his mail readers set to plain text, and NO SCRIPTING EVER ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Brian Mathis wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl mailto:gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: And please, stop send mails with html encoding. No, do not stop sending emails with HTML encoding. Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. no thanks, not on this list http://centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
From: Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# I didn't receive any message. Time for domainkeys? Hum... maybe Google checks if the reverse dns matches... Or maybe check http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Temperature sensor
Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote on Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:33:17 +0800: Fair question. But we don't have to imply certain things. Some people are just touchy not lazy. Hard to deal with the first and bring out the cane for the second when proven. Well, just didn't want to see another qmail question from her next week ;-) And I think she understood, so that's fair with me. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bandwith limiting
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: But I do not know how to persist this. perhaps in the rc.local file? I am sure there is a proper file for this. Just like iptables, routing, etc. I am not so sure. You could make your own init script, like these guys' example[1], then use chkconfig and service to make it 'automatic'. Or you could see of tcng[2] might meet your needs. Disclaimer: I am not associated with and have not used either of these. [1] http://www.topwebhosts.org/tools/traffic-control.php [2] http://tcng.sourceforge.net/ -- HTH, -Bob Beers ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: [root]# telnet http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com 250 http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.comsu...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.comsuzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 http://mail.mydomain.commail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# You didn't create a body to your email! The proper way to send an email through SMTP is: DATA 354 go ahead From: Susan Day su...@mydomain.com To: Susan Day susieprogram...@gmail.com Subject: Test This is a test only a test. . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit Well I tried again and no it didn't come through. TIA, Susan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Hi Sue, From: Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com [root]# telnet mail.mydomain.com 25 Trying 209.216.9.56... Connected to mail.mydomain.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.mydomain.com ESMTP HELO mail.mydomain.com 250 mail.mydomain.com MAIL FROM su...@mydomain.com 250 ok RCPT TO suzieprogram...@gmail.com 250 ok DATA testing 354 go ahead . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit 221 mail.mydomain.com Connection closed by foreign host. [root]# I didn't receive any message. Time for domainkeys? Hum... maybe Google checks if the reverse dns matches... Or maybe check http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax JD From earlier posts you will have seen that you need to create the headers correctly in the body part of the email (just after you entered in DATA). Also do not spoof the domain in the helo portion either your email MUST be valid in every way or it WILL be discarded by the anti-spam measures. Also if you continue to send spam to their servers you WILL become black listed and then even legitimate email will not be delivered. If you implement SPF make sure that you get it right or your mail will be blocked there are plenty of spf checkers out there. Finally, I would not send mail to service providers like hotmail or google until I had my script emailing my local domain correctly at least when you send mail to your localdomain, you're in control of the reception as well as the transmission. Good luck Simon. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. Hi, Any RS-232 temperature sensor should do the job. -- Dominik Zyla pgpJDE4krJ76c.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:13:56AM -0800, Benjamin Franz wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. -- Dominik Zyla pgpSznIZBqpB3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. Hi, Any RS-232 temperature sensor should do the job. The USB ones also (generally) work with CentOS, though you may need to resort to reading the USB device with a script and doing your own graphing and alerting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. I;m not sure what you consider cheap. I've used a Sensatronics Model E4, for which I've written my own daemon software to take a reading and log it every x minutes. I've also had a Sensaphone Model 1104 which can automatically call multiple phone numbers and play a message about fault conditions. Each of these were in the $400 to $600 range (with sensors). -- Dale Dellutri ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
2010/2/26 Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. http://www.akcp.com/company/sensorProbe2.htm (sensorprobe2) is nice, cheap and with ethernet connection. works with nagios fine.. -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Kwan Lowe kwan.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. Hi, Any RS-232 temperature sensor should do the job. The USB ones also (generally) work with CentOS, though you may need to resort to reading the USB device with a script and doing your own graphing and alerting. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos You might find this useful: http://quozl.us.netrek.org/ts/ -- Mathew S. McCarrell Clarkson University '10 mccar...@gmail.com mccar...@clarkson.edu 1-518-314-9214 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Hi, On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 17:18 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:13:56AM -0800, Benjamin Franz wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. I use 1-wire devices with CentOS. See http://owfs.org/ If you google a bit there are many suppliers who sell complete kits for serial and USB (I use USB) connections for a fair price. Maybe it's a bit overkill for 1 sensor, but its easy to connect many sensors to a machine (I have about 20 :) ). You can make it really cheap if you have some soldering skills ;) Regards, Michel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Suzie wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: I've not done this before. Here's what I did. Please see if this looks correct: snip You didn't create a body to your email! The proper way to send an email through SMTP is: DATA 354 go ahead From: Susan Day su...@mydomain.com To: Susan Day susieprogram...@gmail.com Subject: Test This is a test only a test. . 250 ok 1267194591 qp 11432 quit Well I tried again and no it didn't come through. And it's not showing when you log into gmail? Then as I said, you need to contact gmail support. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. I don't know what your idea of cheap is, but I use Servertech PDUs exclusively and their Smart and Switched models are network aware and have optional temperature/humidity probes which you can query via SNMP. This is handy because you then have sensors essentially built into each and every rack. Pretty simple to have nagios query the SNMP value and alert. Also am having cacti graph the data as well. Most of the servertech PDUs the sensors plug directly into the PDU, on some of them it requires an add-on module. Each PDU typically supports 2 sensors, the cables are about 10 feet. About 5 years ago at a company I deployed a Sensatronics model E4 which has up to 16 probe inputs, and they have sensors with cables up to something like 300 feet. Monitorable by a simple http server and I believe it has SNMP as well. They have fancier monitoring appliances as well with alerting and stuff though they weren't out when I was using their stuff. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
You can make it really cheap if you have some soldering skills ;) what is solution for people without soldering skills? ;) -- Eero ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Benjamin Franz wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. I'm looking for room temperature, not case temperature. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Dale Dellutri wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com mailto:bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. I;m not sure what you consider cheap. I've used a Sensatronics Model E4, for which I've written my own daemon software to take a reading and log it every x minutes. I've also had a Sensaphone Model 1104 which can automatically call multiple phone numbers and play a message about fault conditions. Each of these were in the $400 to $600 range (with sensors). By cheap, I mean under $100. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
You can make it really cheap if you have some soldering skills ;) what is solution for people without soldering skills? ;) And you call yourself a sysadmin?! g http://xkcd.org/705/ Or, for that matter, http://www.2dkits.com/zencart/ (ObFullInfo: yes, they are friends of mine). mark now, about redoing that RJ-45 I just pulled out ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bowie Bailey wrote: Benjamin Franz wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. I'm looking for room temperature, not case temperature. Some hardware provides SNMP-addressable information on the temperature of inbound air, not just case temperature. I realize that inbound temperature is not exactly the same as room temp, but it's a pretty good approximation in many case. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com http://www.madboa.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Paul Heinlein wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Bowie Bailey wrote: I'm looking for room temperature, not case temperature. Some hardware provides SNMP-addressable information on the temperature of inbound air, not just case temperature. I realize that inbound temperature is not exactly the same as room temp, but it's a pretty good approximation in many case. Unfortunately, my hardware does not do this. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Backuppc-updates on CentOS
On 2/26/2010 2:20 AM, John R Pierce wrote: epel is the best large 3rd party repo in terms of avoiding conflicts with the base. Yeah, I noticed that with rpmforge. I was just under the impression that epel was a bit dodgy as repos come. Never too late to be enlightened though. ;-) the following is my opinion, and nothing else: epel doesn't use a repository tag in their RPM names. this makes it hard to use with other repositories. All repositories are hard to use with other repositories. Yum doesn't pay attention to repo tags, so all they do is help point out problems after the fact. I think it was a dumb decision for epel to not use tags but it is worse that yum doesn't track where it got things. For packages you haven't installed yet, 'yum info packagename' will show the repository location(s). As an example of things that go wrong, on one machine I have subversion and viewvc from rpmforge (to get a version that is not ancient), but epel's build number for viewvc is higher and the rpmforge/epel versions land in different places and are incompatible. So, with my usual practice of leaving epel enabled during updates, I pick up epel's newer-numbered package which overwrites some of the rpmforge version and keeps some, leaving it very broken. But fortunately it's a standalone package and not to hard to fix by removing the one you don't want and re-installing with the right combination of enablerepo= and disablerepo= on the yum command line. When this happens to things with a lot of dependencies it is a real mess. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote: You can make it really cheap if you have some soldering skills ;) what is solution for people without soldering skills? ;) Learn it or find someone who can OR if all else fails, buy complete products :) Regards, Michel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Kwan Lowe wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Dominik Zyla gavro...@gavroche.pl wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. Hi, Any RS-232 temperature sensor should do the job. The USB ones also (generally) work with CentOS, though you may need to resort to reading the USB device with a script and doing your own graphing and alerting. Does anyone know of one that is known to work with CentOS? (I don't care if I have to read the device manually) -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:00:21AM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot. Sorry, only one I used years ago (Hot Little Therm) is discontinued... But, unless you already checked, some servers have integrated ambiant temperature... By example, on HP servers: # /sbin/hplog -t ID TYPELOCATION STATUSCURRENT THRESHOLD 1 Basic Sensor I/O ZoneNormal 114F/ 46C 149F/ 65C 2 Basic Sensor Ambient Normal78F/ 26C 104F/ 40C 3 Basic Sensor CPU (1) Normal91F/ 33C 203F/ 95C 4 Basic Sensor CPU (1) Normal91F/ 33C 203F/ 95C 5 Basic Sensor Pwr. Supply Bay Normal91F/ 33C 140F/ 60C 6 Basic Sensor CPU (2) Normal ---F/---C 203F/ 95C 7 Basic Sensor CPU (2) Normal ---F/---C 203F/ 95C JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Bowie Bailey wrote: Benjamin Franz wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. I'm looking for room temperature, not case temperature. If your goal is simply to know when the server room is getting hot, the difference doesn't matter. All you need to know is that it is warmer than normal: The case temps will track room temps + some roughly constant number of degrees. -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On 2/26/2010 10:46 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote: Does anyone know of a cheap temperature sensor that will work with Linux? I don't need a fancy monitoring appliance, I just want a simple sensor that I can connect to one of my monitoring servers to let me know if the server room is getting hot There is a good chance that lm-sensors supports your servers with no additional hardware needed. To configure lm-sensors, run 'sensors-detect' as root. If your cpu/motherboard is supported you will be able to read system temps directly either using SNMP or by scraping 'sensors' output. I'm looking for room temperature, not case temperature. Some hardware provides SNMP-addressable information on the temperature of inbound air, not just case temperature. I realize that inbound temperature is not exactly the same as room temp, but it's a pretty good approximation in many case. Yes, are you really that concerned about whether people in the room are comfortable - they'll tell someone if they aren't even without gadgets. If the room is getting hot, so will the equipment, so internal sensors will show the trend, just offset by a bit of equipment heat. Most Cisco equipment and higher end UPS's will have SNMP readable sensors that monitoring programs can read, graph, and alarm on thresholds, and I believe you can enable them on linux servers with the right snmpd.conf settings. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. i think you'll find under normal operating conditions that delta is pretty constant if the server is under a reasonably consistent workload. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:57:52AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. i think you'll find under normal operating conditions that delta is pretty constant if the server is under a reasonably consistent workload. True.. We're also doing like this in some of server rooms. But sometimes we had strange values. So this sort of stuff can be not good enough. :) -- Dominik Zyla pgpsF7z7wpzS5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On 2/26/2010 12:11 PM, Dominik Zyla wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:57:52AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. i think you'll find under normal operating conditions that delta is pretty constant if the server is under a reasonably consistent workload. True.. We're also doing like this in some of server rooms. But sometimes we had strange values. So this sort of stuff can be not good enough. :) If you can get graphs from two different pieces of equipment on the same page you can pretty much see the trend. A single device might have a fan go bad or something - but that should probably be fixed anyway. On servers that have variable CPU power you might see temperature variations depending on the load. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] rkhunter doesn't remove temp suspscan files in /dev/shm
Alle, I know this is off-topic, so I apologize in advance, but we have installed rkhunter from EPEL (because it has the current version, 1.3.6 vice the 1.3.4 rpmforge version) on our CentOS machine and find that it does not remove the files in /dev/shm it uses for the SUSPSCAN test, this triggering a warning for said test. This was a known bug that was supposed to be have been fixed in V1.3.1. I can't find an EPEL mailing list to send the question to, so I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. Best Regards, Camron -- Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu Management Services of America, Inc. E-mail: cw...@us.fujitsu.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:27:59PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 2/26/2010 12:11 PM, Dominik Zyla wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:57:52AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. i think you'll find under normal operating conditions that delta is pretty constant if the server is under a reasonably consistent workload. True.. We're also doing like this in some of server rooms. But sometimes we had strange values. So this sort of stuff can be not good enough. :) If you can get graphs from two different pieces of equipment on the same page you can pretty much see the trend. A single device might have a fan go bad or something - but that should probably be fixed anyway. On servers that have variable CPU power you might see temperature variations depending on the load. You have right. While you checking sensors from few machines, you can see the trend. Gotta think about changing the way of temperature monitoring here. -- Dominik Zyla pgpCceq3Rmbfu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Dominik wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:27:59PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 2/26/2010 12:11 PM, Dominik Zyla wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:57:52AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. snip If you can get graphs from two different pieces of equipment on the same page you can pretty much see the trend. A single device might have a fan go bad or something - but that should probably be fixed anyway. On servers that have variable CPU power you might see temperature variations depending on the load. You have right. While you checking sensors from few machines, you can see the trend. Gotta think about changing the way of temperature monitoring here. Here's a question back: does the HVAC in the room allow monitoring? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] mod_proxy and html rewriting
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Joseph L. Casale wrote: mod_substitute is included in later Apache's and does a great job. I actually like it better than mod_proxy_html, since the latter has a tendency to rewrite a _lot_ of stuff to make it valid HTML/XHTML. Not that that's necessarily a terrible thing, but sometimes I just want to change what I told it to change... I used the SRPM from RHWAS to update to the latest Apache on EL5. Great, the issue I am getting is the browser doesn't understand the rewritten content as a result of xhtml issues. Rh's ftp shows httpd-2.2.8-1.el5s2.src.rpm for this rpm as latest. I'll give a go at compiling this to try mod_substitute. Thanks guys! jlc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos No need to ditch stock Apache: http://repo.lastdot.org/webstack/5/i386/mod_substitute-2.2.11-1.el5.ld.i386.rpm http://repo.lastdot.org/webstack/5/x86_64/mod_substitute-2.2.11-1.el5.ld.x86_64.rpm ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 01:41:00PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Dominik wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:27:59PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: On 2/26/2010 12:11 PM, Dominik Zyla wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 09:57:52AM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: But it'll not give information about temperature in server room. actually, it sorta can. find the lowest reading sensor on the system, probably one on the mainboard...use a manual thermometer to read the intake air temp and calculate the delta. snip If you can get graphs from two different pieces of equipment on the same page you can pretty much see the trend. A single device might have a fan go bad or something - but that should probably be fixed anyway. On servers that have variable CPU power you might see temperature variations depending on the load. You have right. While you checking sensors from few machines, you can see the trend. Gotta think about changing the way of temperature monitoring here. Here's a question back: does the HVAC in the room allow monitoring? It could be some problems with ventilation, I guess. -- Dominik Zyla pgpoJG0V5nTtA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Dominik Zyla wrote: You have right. While you checking sensors from few machines, you can see the trend. Gotta think about changing the way of temperature monitoring here. Myself I wouldn't rely on internal equipment sensors to try to extrapolate ambient temperature from their readings. Most equipment will automatically spin their fans at faster RPMs as the temperature goes up which can give false indications of ambient temperature. I do monitor the temperature of network equipment, but also have dedicated sensors for ambient readings. Already saved us some pain once, opened up a new location in London last year and the ambient temperature at our rack in the data center was 85+ degrees F. The SLA requires temperature be from 64-78 degrees. Alarms were going off in Nagios. The facility claimed there was no issue, and opened up some more air vents, which didn't help. They still didn't believe us so they installed their own sensor in our rack. The next day the temperature dropped by ~10 degrees, I guess they believed their own sensor.. http://portal.aphroland.org/~aphro/rack-temperature.png People at my own company were questioning the accuracy of this sensor(there was only one, I prefer 2 but they are cheap bastards), but I was able to validate the increased temperature by comparing the internal temp of the switches and load balancers were significantly higher than other locations. Though even with the ambient temperature dropping by 10+ degrees, the temperature of the gear didn't move nearly as much. The crazy part was I checked the temperature probes at my former company(different/better data center) and the *exhaust* temperature of the servers was lower than the *input* temperature from this new data center. Exhaust temperature was around 78-80 degrees, several degrees below the 85+. It seems the facility in London further improved their cooling in recent weeks as average temperature is down from 78 to about 70-72 now, and is much more stable, prior to the change we were frequently spiking above 80 and averaging about 78. Also having ambient temperature sensors can be advantageous in the event you need to convince a facility they are running too hot(or out of SLA), as a tech guy myself(as you can probably see already) I am much less inclined to trust the results of internal equipment sensors than a standalone external sensor which can be put on the front of the rack. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] good centos/rhel source for latest spamassassin?
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Eero Volotinen wrote: 2010/2/25 R P Herrold herr...@centos.org: I have a full sources solution at: ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/mirror/ORC/spamassassin/ including all side modules needed for some wierd stuff not in other packaging sets Looks good, but is the final version of package .3.3 also available instead of rc1? I pushed File:spamassassin-3.3.0-5orc.src.rpm over top -- I think i was there before, but perhaps not .. and how to build spamassassin including all modules? Directory contains lot of files, or do I need to build each package and then just install? um -- there is a README in the directory -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was
running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and
ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server.
And SMARTD reports the sectors as currently unreadable (pending)
sectors, and offline uncorrectable sectors.
I recommend to replace that disc ASAP. When they start having to
reallocate more sectors, they are in a pending complete failure state.
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Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server. And SMARTD reports the sectors as currently unreadable (pending) sectors, and offline uncorrectable sectors. I recommend to replace that disc ASAP. When they start having to reallocate more sectors, they are in a pending complete failure state. Actually, the f/s is back in read-only mode, so I'm going to do that. It still bothers me that after an fsck -c, and a reboot, that SMARTD still saw the same number of sectors as bad. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 15:23 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: snip I recommend to replace that disc ASAP. When they start having to reallocate more sectors, they are in a pending complete failure state. I second that. I had a SATA drive that showed a few bad sectors in 2008 sometime. I got the vendor software (DOS version) and ran the diags and repair. Used it for another year or so. Bad sectors started appearing again and I knew what this meant. Started taking more frequent backups. When it was convenient, downloaded the latest diags from the vendor, ran it repeatedly and every time it found and repaired more bad sectors and finally confirmed the drive was NG. Warranty exchange was easy and prompt. If you've been through a small initial set of bad sectors and are now seeing more (especially if you ran the vendor's software), the drive is living on borrowed time. This has been characteristic of drives for decades - a few early defects may appear, re-map and the drive works a very long time but when more start appearing a slow death is in progress. Mike ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SMARTD (?)
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 16:27 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Ok, I saw more sectors on a drive yesterday, so this morning, no one was running on it, and I took it out of use, then bounced it onto a DVD, and ran fsck -c (check for bad blocks). It finished. I bounce the server. And SMARTD reports the sectors as currently unreadable (pending) sectors, and offline uncorrectable sectors. I recommend to replace that disc ASAP. When they start having to reallocate more sectors, they are in a pending complete failure state. Actually, the f/s is back in read-only mode, so I'm going to do that. It still bothers me that after an fsck -c, and a reboot, that SMARTD still saw the same number of sectors as bad. That's because fsck remaps /file system/ blocks to spares while the firmware/vendor diags handles media sectors. So if you fsck's inumerable times, the drive firmware is not affected and still sees the /original/ bad sectors until those are re-mapped. snip sig stuff HTH -- Bill ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Temperature sensor
Try the Dallas/Maxim 1-wire system. They have serial port controllers with an RJ11 jack so you can use a phone cable to the sensor. I got one of their temp sensors and a cheap RJ11 jack from Radio Shack and had a remote temp sensor. They use a simple serial protocol and some of the controllers are smart like the DS9097U $28 or so for the controller: http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2983 http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2923 For temperature DS28EA00: http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/5355 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:02 PM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: Dominik Zyla wrote: You have right. While you checking sensors from few machines, you can see the trend. Gotta think about changing the way of temperature monitoring here. Myself I wouldn't rely on internal equipment sensors to try to extrapolate ambient temperature from their readings. Most equipment will automatically spin their fans at faster RPMs as the temperature goes up which can give false indications of ambient temperature. I do monitor the temperature of network equipment, but also have dedicated sensors for ambient readings. Already saved us some pain once, opened up a new location in London last year and the ambient temperature at our rack in the data center was 85+ degrees F. The SLA requires temperature be from 64-78 degrees. Alarms were going off in Nagios. The facility claimed there was no issue, and opened up some more air vents, which didn't help. They still didn't believe us so they installed their own sensor in our rack. The next day the temperature dropped by ~10 degrees, I guess they believed their own sensor.. http://portal.aphroland.org/~aphro/rack-temperature.png People at my own company were questioning the accuracy of this sensor(there was only one, I prefer 2 but they are cheap bastards), but I was able to validate the increased temperature by comparing the internal temp of the switches and load balancers were significantly higher than other locations. Though even with the ambient temperature dropping by 10+ degrees, the temperature of the gear didn't move nearly as much. The crazy part was I checked the temperature probes at my former company(different/better data center) and the *exhaust* temperature of the servers was lower than the *input* temperature from this new data center. Exhaust temperature was around 78-80 degrees, several degrees below the 85+. It seems the facility in London further improved their cooling in recent weeks as average temperature is down from 78 to about 70-72 now, and is much more stable, prior to the change we were frequently spiking above 80 and averaging about 78. Also having ambient temperature sensors can be advantageous in the event you need to convince a facility they are running too hot(or out of SLA), as a tech guy myself(as you can probably see already) I am much less inclined to trust the results of internal equipment sensors than a standalone external sensor which can be put on the front of the rack. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On 26/02/2010 15:32, Brian Mathis wrote: Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. Hahahaha. I don't even have X, please can you suggest a mail reader? -- Hoffmann Geerd-Dietger http://contact.ribalba.de ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote: On 26/02/2010 15:32, Brian Mathis wrote: Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. Hahahaha. I don't even have X, please can you suggest a mail reader? That's strange. Your mail headers say that not only do you have a graphical email client, you are specifically using Thunderbird 3.0.2 to read email. Which since I use it myself, I know displays HTML emails just fine. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 -- Benjamin Franz ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Email Problem
On Saturday, February 27, 2010 06:46 AM, Benjamin Franz wrote: Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote: On 26/02/2010 15:32, Brian Mathis wrote: Welcome to the second decade of the 21st century. We may not have flying cars or found the monolith on the moon yet, but at least we can have proportional fonts with word wrap and basic formatting like bold and italics. If your mail reader can't handle it, get a new one that can. Hahahaha. I don't even have X, please can you suggest a mail reader? That's strange. Your mail headers say that not only do you have a graphical email client, you are specifically using Thunderbird 3.0.2 to read email. Which since I use it myself, I know displays HTML emails just fine. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 You know, technically, he is right. Unless he installed X, he really does not have X on his Mac OS X box. Thunderbird on Mac OS X is not compiled against X. He is just having some fun. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
