Re: [CentOS] When does %POST kick in in Kickstart?

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Jacob Brown wrote:

> To: "centos@centos.org" 
> From: Jacob Brown 
> Subject: [CentOS] When does %POST kick in in Kickstart?
> 
> Okay, this is really simple but because Google has deteriorated in quality 
> over time, it's getting really hard to find straight forward answers.
>
> Very simple; when does the %POST section of the Kickstart file kick in during 
> the install process?
>
> Before or after the first reboot?

The %post section of a kickstart file is the last thing to 
run during the execution of the kickstart file by anaconda.

Kind Regards,

Keith Roberts

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread allan
I think *all* inkjets are cash cows for the cartridge manufacturers.
Just my two cents.
Allan

Robert Heller wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:06:38 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
> 
>> John R Pierce wrote:
>>>   On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
 Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
 CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
 issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
 for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
 printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
 Linux realm.

 Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
 have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
 paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
 save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
 Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
 up for him before sending him back to school.

 Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
 laptop.  Any suggestions?
>>> campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!?   I know the CSU 
>>> my son goes to has printers all over the place.
>>>
>>> Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers.
>>> Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any 
>>> printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
>> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux 
>> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do 
>> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color 
>> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the 
>> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
> 
> Yes, HP *Laser* printers are OK.  It is their *Inkjets* that suck, both
> because of driver stupidity *AND* wicked *expensive* ink carts -- HP seems
> to have the highest priced ink jet carts and is *very* 'protective' of
> their supplies market -- they forced Staples to NOT carry third-party
> ink carts for their printers, threatening to withdraw HP as a brand of
> printer Staples could carry (smells like Kodak's Brownie games way back
> when). 
> 
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[CentOS] how to use dhcpd and bind with windows 2008 ad domain model?

2010-08-16 Thread Eero Volotinen
This might be a bit offtopic, but:

How to run bind and dhcpd as slave on windows 2008 ad domain.

Is it possible?

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread allan
Yes, this is true. I have an HP LJ1200. When the parallel port crapped out the 
USB port worked fine using postscript.
Peace,
Allan


Robert Heller wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:21:27 -0700 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
> 
>>   On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux
>>> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do
>>> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color
>>> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the
>>> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
>> USB printers are more likely to require special drivers.  Ethernet 
>> printers less likely.
> 
> Most USB *printers* use the USB 'printer' protocol.  You would still
> need a 'driver' (actually a PostScript => raster filter) for
> non-Postscript printers (eg: inkjets).  I would guess that USB *laser*
> *PostScript* printers would use the USB printer protocol and would not
> need a special 'driver' -- the Linux kernel knows how to talk to a USB
> 'printer' device (HAL's hotplug code creats a /dev/usb/lpN device file
> automagically).
> 
>> However...   Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet 
>> devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your 
>> laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything 
>> else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they 
>> have one port per bunk in the dorms).   Under these conditions, using an 
>> ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the 
>> computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the 
>> printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, 
>> yada yada.blah!
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread cornel panceac
>
>
> I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under
> linux
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajagopal
>
>
> i've only seen one (big laserjet color , c760 probably, postscript)
lexmark printer working in linux.

otoh, if a printer works in fedora does not meen it will work in centos.
actually, at one point in time, after replacing fedora core 6 with centos 5,
i've found out the lowend hp inkjet printer no longer works, so i had to
replace it with fedora 9 (since it was faster than messing with hp* rpms
that had yet to be build at that time.)

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, David McGuffey
 wrote:
>
> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
> laptop.  Any suggestions?
>
> Dave M
>


I heard somewhare that *all* Lexmark printers are well supported under linux

Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:21:27 -0700 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
>   On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
> >
> > Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux
> > can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do
> > the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color
> > Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the
> > cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
> 
> USB printers are more likely to require special drivers.  Ethernet 
> printers less likely.

Most USB *printers* use the USB 'printer' protocol.  You would still
need a 'driver' (actually a PostScript => raster filter) for
non-Postscript printers (eg: inkjets).  I would guess that USB *laser*
*PostScript* printers would use the USB printer protocol and would not
need a special 'driver' -- the Linux kernel knows how to talk to a USB
'printer' device (HAL's hotplug code creats a /dev/usb/lpN device file
automagically).

> 
> However...   Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet 
> devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your 
> laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything 
> else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they 
> have one port per bunk in the dorms).   Under these conditions, using an 
> ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the 
> computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the 
> printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, 
> yada yada.blah!
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:06:38 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> John R Pierce wrote:
> >   On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
> >> Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
> >> CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
> >> issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
> >> for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
> >> printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
> >> Linux realm.
> >>
> >> Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
> >> have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
> >> paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
> >> save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
> >> Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
> >> up for him before sending him back to school.
> >>
> >> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
> >> laptop.  Any suggestions?
> > 
> > campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!?   I know the CSU 
> > my son goes to has printers all over the place.
> > 
> > Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers.
> > Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any 
> > printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.
> 
> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux 
> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do 
> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color 
> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the 
> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.

Yes, HP *Laser* printers are OK.  It is their *Inkjets* that suck, both
because of driver stupidity *AND* wicked *expensive* ink carts -- HP seems
to have the highest priced ink jet carts and is *very* 'protective' of
their supplies market -- they forced Staples to NOT carry third-party
ink carts for their printers, threatening to withdraw HP as a brand of
printer Staples could carry (smells like Kodak's Brownie games way back
when). 

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Re: [CentOS] When does %POST kick in in Kickstart?

2010-08-16 Thread Tang Jianwei

after installation but before first reboot.

Tang Jianwei


On 08/17/2010 09:56 AM, Jacob Brown wrote:


Okay, this is really simple but because Google has deteriorated in 
quality over time, it's getting really hard to find straight forward 
answers.


Very simple; when does the %POST section of the Kickstart file kick in 
during the install process?


Before or after the first reboot?

Hopefully this gets picked up easy by the spiders...


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[CentOS] When does %POST kick in in Kickstart?

2010-08-16 Thread Jacob Brown
Okay, this is really simple but because Google has deteriorated in quality over 
time, it's getting really hard to find straight forward answers.

Very simple; when does the %POST section of the Kickstart file kick in during 
the install process?

Before or after the first reboot?

Hopefully this gets picked up easy by the spiders...
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Bob McConnell
John R Pierce wrote:
>  On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>>
>> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux
>> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do
>> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color
>> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the
>> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.
> 
> USB printers are more likely to require special drivers.  Ethernet 
> printers less likely.
> 
> However...   Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet 
> devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your 
> laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything 
> else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they 
> have one port per bunk in the dorms).   Under these conditions, using an 
> ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the 
> computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the 
> printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, 
> yada yada.blah!

I wonder if that is because they are charging by the page for printer 
and copier use. They don't want students to come in and bypass the fee 
based services.

Yes, I know they claim it is a security issue. But as long as they allow 
MS-Windows systems on their network, I am not going to believe them.

Bob McConnell

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Re: [CentOS] Mark facility in CentOS

2010-08-16 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Daniel Bareiro  wrote:
> On Monday, 16 August 2010 00:31:14 -0300,
> JohnS wrote:
>
>>> This is my first message to the list. Some time ago I'm user of
>>> Debian GNU/Linux and recently I also started to use CentOS GNU/Linux.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to enable the mark facility on CentOS? According
>>> to what I was seeing, unlike Debian GNU/Linux, which uses rsyslog,
>>> CentOS still uses the traditional syslog where the parameters to be
>>> passed to the daemon are taken from /etc/sysconfig/syslog and the
>>> default configuration
>
>> -m 1   ???  The man page isn't much helpGet your feet weat...
>
> I thought the first referral to see would be "man syslogd":
>
>       -m interval
>              The syslogd logs a mark timestamp regularly.  The default
>              interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes.  This
>              can be changed with this option.  Setting the interval to
>              zero  turns  it off entirely.
>
> This time I did a test again and it worked even without the need to add
> mark.* in /etc/syslog.conf. I presume that maybe when I tried it last
> week, it would have failed because I incorrectly used "-m 20" in
> SYSLOGD_OPTIONS in /etc/init.d/syslog rather than in /etc/syslog.conf.
>
> I also see that timestamps are placed with the default interval of 20
> minutes leaving the variable empty, ie:
>
> SYSLOGD_OPTIONS=""

You must mean that you changed the default [SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-m 0"] in
"/etc/sysconfig/syslog" to ["SYSLOGD_OPTIONS=""].
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread John R Pierce
  On 08/16/10 4:23 PM, Utt, Lyle wrote:
> I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home.
> Works fine out of the box.

and its replacement HL-2140 is $79 at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-2140-Personal-Laser-Printer/dp/B0010Z1W06
has linux CUPS and LPR drivers  
http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
and uses the same TN-360 2500 page toners as my MFC...


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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Utt, Lyle
I run a Brother HL-2040 by usb cable at home.
Works fine out of the box.

Lyle E. Utt
OSU Foundation
Systems & Database Administrator
Phone (541) 737-2921
Fax (541) 737-0498
mailto:lyle@oregonstate.edu


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John R Pierce
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:21 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student 
using CentOS 5.5

  On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>
> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux
> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do
> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color
> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the
> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.

USB printers are more likely to require special drivers.  Ethernet 
printers less likely.

However...   Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet 
devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your 
laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything 
else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they 
have one port per bunk in the dorms).   Under these conditions, using an 
ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the 
computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the 
printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, 
yada yada.blah!



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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread John R Pierce
  On 08/16/10 4:06 PM, Bob McConnell wrote:
>
> Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux
> can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do
> the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color
> Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the
> cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.

USB printers are more likely to require special drivers.  Ethernet 
printers less likely.

However...   Many campuses have restrictions on attaching ethernet 
devices, like the CSU campus my kid goes to, you have to register your 
laptop or PC by its MAC address, you can't connect a switch or anything 
else to the dorm ethernet jacks, just one PC/laptop per port (and they 
have one port per bunk in the dorms).   Under these conditions, using an 
ethernet printer would be problematic, and require disconnecting the 
computer from the 'house' network, and plugging it directly into the 
printer, likely with a crossover cable, and reconfiguring the network, 
yada yada.blah!



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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Bob McConnell
John R Pierce wrote:
>   On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
>> Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
>> CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
>> issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
>> for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
>> printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
>> Linux realm.
>>
>> Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
>> have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
>> paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
>> save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
>> Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
>> up for him before sending him back to school.
>>
>> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
>> laptop.  Any suggestions?
> 
> campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!?   I know the CSU 
> my son goes to has printers all over the place.
> 
> Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers.
> Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any 
> printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.

Many of the low end HP laser printers have Postscript built in, so Linux 
can talk directly to them. Otherwise, I use CUPS with Gutenprint to do 
the translation. If you can stretch the budget, even the CP1518ni Color 
Laserjet is often available for less then $300. After you factor in the 
cost of ink vs. toner, the laser comes out costing less in the long run.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread John R Pierce
  On 08/16/10 2:00 PM, Ed Donahue wrote:
> *I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just

aftermarket toners work great in Brother B&W lasers, too, even cheaper 
per page cost.  I got this tip from a friend who did IT while in the 
USCG, they use Brother printers exclusively (lowest bidder) and the 
cheapest bulk supplies they could get, and had no problems with the 
printers.

On my MFC-74345N (a networked all-in-one I got at Costco a couple years 
ago), I get about 2000 pages per $20 toner, and 6 toners per $50 drum.  
This is so much cheaper than HP printers its not funny.   This MFC is a 
great fax machine, scanner (can scan multipage documents directly to a 
PDF, my wife loves that part) too.


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Re: [CentOS] Mark facility in CentOS

2010-08-16 Thread Daniel Bareiro
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Hi, John.

On Monday, 16 August 2010 00:31:14 -0300,
JohnS wrote:

>> This is my first message to the list. Some time ago I'm user of
>> Debian GNU/Linux and recently I also started to use CentOS GNU/Linux.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to enable the mark facility on CentOS? According
>> to what I was seeing, unlike Debian GNU/Linux, which uses rsyslog,
>> CentOS still uses the traditional syslog where the parameters to be
>> passed to the daemon are taken from /etc/sysconfig/syslog and the
>> default configuration

> -m 1   ???  The man page isn't much helpGet your feet weat...

I thought the first referral to see would be "man syslogd":

   -m interval
  The syslogd logs a mark timestamp regularly.  The default
  interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes.  This
  can be changed with this option.  Setting the interval to
  zero  turns  it off entirely.


This time I did a test again and it worked even without the need to add
mark.* in /etc/syslog.conf. I presume that maybe when I tried it last
week, it would have failed because I incorrectly used "-m 20" in
SYSLOGD_OPTIONS in /etc/init.d/syslog rather than in /etc/syslog.conf.

I also see that timestamps are placed with the default interval of 20
minutes leaving the variable empty, ie:

SYSLOGD_OPTIONS=""


Thanks for your reply.

Regards,
Daniel

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Max Hetrick wrote:

> To: CentOS mailing list 
> From: Max Hetrick 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student
> using CentOS 5.5
> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
>> At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
>> wrote:
>
>> Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working
>> under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business
>> of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense),
>> even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model,
>> so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise
>> work.  Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use
>> bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and
>> install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
>
> I have an HP OfficeJet Pro (all-in-one) at home and it runs fine under
> Linux. It was actually plug and play through USB. Also, before that, I
> had an old HP laser which I can't remember the model of, and again, no
> issues with it working under Linux. My experience has been pretty decent
> using HP printers and Linux.
>
> Regards,
> Max

I'm running an HP Deskjet 810c on Fedora 12 with no 
problems. Was working under Fedora 8 until recent upgrade 
to F12.

Not tested on Centos 5.5 yet though. Still installing 
and testing that on my laptop.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Max Hetrick
Robert Heller wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:

> Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working
> under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business
> of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense),
> even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model,
> so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise
> work.  Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use
> bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and
> install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).

I have an HP OfficeJet Pro (all-in-one) at home and it runs fine under 
Linux. It was actually plug and play through USB. Also, before that, I 
had an old HP laser which I can't remember the model of, and again, no 
issues with it working under Linux. My experience has been pretty decent 
using HP printers and Linux.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Ed Donahue
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Robert Heller  wrote:
> At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
>> CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
>> issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
>> for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
>> printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
>> Linux realm.
>>
>> Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
>> have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
>> paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
>> save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
>> Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
>> up for him before sending him back to school.
>>
>> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
>> laptop.  Any suggestions?
>
> Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working
> under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business
> of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense),
> even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model,
> so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise
> work.  Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use
> bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and
> install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).
>
> Now, B&W *PostScript* *Laser* printers are universal. (And don't in fact
> need a 'driver' at all under Linux).  Over the long haul, Laser printers
> are actually *cheaper* to use than even the cheapest Inkjet.  Really.
> The only downside is Laser printers are somewhat bulker that low-end
> inkjets.
>
> *I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just
> plugged it in, configured dhcpd, and spent two minutes with CUPS, and
> was printing away (CentOS 5).  (This model also has USB and parallel
> port interfaces, but you'll need to get a cable.)  I also suspect that
> the toner cart it comes will will last the whole shool year, maybe even
> for the rest of your son's college years. (Unlike the inkjet carts which
> will probably need replacing after 2-3 long term papers.)
>
>>
>> Dave M
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Or, just buy a small flash stick and go to a computer lab at school to
print stuff out.
That was what I did.
Or get a brother laser jet, I have a HL-2040.
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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:50:32 -0400 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
> CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
> issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
> for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
> printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
> Linux realm. 
> 
> Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
> have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
> paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
> save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
> Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
> up for him before sending him back to school.
> 
> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
> laptop.  Any suggestions?

Almost any *new* *inket* printer is going to be a hassle to get working
under CentOS. HPs are actually the worst -- HP has some anal business
of hardwiring in model numbers in the driver (or some such nonsense),
even when a new model uses the same driver protocols as an older model,
so you need a 'new' driver, even when the old driver would otherwise
work.  Yes, the driver is open source, but the pre-built binaries use
bleeding edge system libraries and the sources are a bear to build and
install from source (and will of course screw with yum & rpm).

Now, B&W *PostScript* *Laser* printers are universal. (And don't in fact
need a 'driver' at all under Linux).  Over the long haul, Laser printers
are actually *cheaper* to use than even the cheapest Inkjet.  Really.
The only downside is Laser printers are somewhat bulker that low-end
inkjets.

*I'd* suggest getting the $250 Brother model I got, HL-5370DW, I just
plugged it in, configured dhcpd, and spent two minutes with CUPS, and
was printing away (CentOS 5).  (This model also has USB and parallel
port interfaces, but you'll need to get a cable.)  I also suspect that
the toner cart it comes will will last the whole shool year, maybe even
for the rest of your son's college years. (Unlike the inkjet carts which
will probably need replacing after 2-3 long term papers.)

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Re: [CentOS] Date drift and ntpd

2010-08-16 Thread Rick Thomas

Hi Jason,


On Aug 12, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote:

> Jul 28 21:42:34 devserver21 ntpd[3475]: frequency error -512 PPM  
> exceeds


This shows that the system clock on devserver21 is driftin too fast  
for NTP to compensate.

Possible causes could be an out-of-spec crystal on that machines, or  
an error in the BIOS (bad frequency divider perhaps) for that  
particular model of machine.

Whatever the cause, it can be compensated for using "adjtimex".  This  
package is not installed by default with Centos 5.5 but you can  
install it easily with "yum install adjtimex".  Then read the man page  
"man 8 adjtimex" and the README in /usr/share/doc/adjtimex*/README and  
follow the directions from there (with particular reference to  
"adjtimex -c" or "adjtimex -a".)

Hope it helps!

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Re: [CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread John R Pierce
  On 08/16/10 11:50 AM, David McGuffey wrote:
> Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
> CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
> issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
> for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
> printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
> Linux realm.
>
> Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
> have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
> paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
> save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
> Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
> up for him before sending him back to school.
>
> Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
> laptop.  Any suggestions?

campus doesn't have all sorts of networked printers?!?   I know the CSU 
my son goes to has printers all over the place.

Most Brother printers have Linux support, so do most HP printers.
Brother's B&W Lasers have the cheapest per page costs of about any 
printer out there, they are ugly but they just work.






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[CentOS] Need tip on an inexpensive printer for college student using CentOS 5.5

2010-08-16 Thread David McGuffey
Sending my son back to college with a dual-boot laptop with Win 7 and
CentOS 5.5.  He uses Win7 to manage his iPod and SW that sometimes
issued by a professor for a specific course...otherwise he uses CentOS
for everything else. That setup worked well last year, except for
printing. He has a low-end Cannon printer that is not supported in the
Linux realm. 

Most of his coursework was uploaded to "Blackboard" and rarely did he
have to print anything.  On the rare occasion when he had to print a
paper/briefing, his work-around was to build the paper/briefing in OO,
save in Office 2003 format on a USB drive, boot to Win7, load in MS
Office and print to the Cannon printer. I'm looking to clean that mess
up for him before sending him back to school.

Looking to buy an inexpensive printer he can use on both sides of this
laptop.  Any suggestions?

Dave M

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[CentOS] kernel: bnx2i: iSCSI not supported, dev=ethX

2010-08-16 Thread David
Running CentOS 5.5 x86_64 on Dell R710 boxes.  I have the server(s) 
configured for bonding/vlan and will be using iscsi to a SAN.  I am in 
the pre-deployment stage so I am just setting up the basic cookie cutter 
configurations so I haven't initiated the iscsi connection to a SAN yet.

While going through the error messages I noticed this error:

kernel: bnx2i: iSCSI not supported, dev=ethX.

First time I have seen this error while configuring previous Dell 
servers, though I noticed most of my older boxes are using the tg3 
module for the onboard NIC's.

Has anyone run into this error message and if so does it means what it 
saysiSCSI not supported for the target device?

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] how many folks are *seriously* using ACLs?

2010-08-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Monday, August 16, 2010, Rajagopal Swaminathan  
wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Alan Hodgson  wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 15, 2010, "Robert P. J. Day" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Default ACLs make file sharing permissions work _almost_ as well as
> > Novell permissions did 20 years ago. Without the nice interface,
> > though.
> 
> naah... what was netadmin (nwadmin)

Yeah I meant Novell's was better.

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Re: [CentOS] how many folks are *seriously* using ACLs?

2010-08-16 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Alan Hodgson  wrote:
> On Sunday, August 15, 2010, "Robert P. J. Day" 
> wrote:
>
> Default ACLs make file sharing permissions work _almost_ as well as Novell
> permissions did 20 years ago. Without the nice interface, though.
>


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Re: [CentOS] how many folks are *seriously* using ACLs?

2010-08-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Sunday, August 15, 2010, "Robert P. J. Day"  
wrote:
>   i'm just curious -- how many people here are using ACLs as a regular
> and significant part of their sys admin?
> 
> rday

Samba shares (a lot). subversion repositories. Some web directories.

Default ACLs make file sharing permissions work _almost_ as well as Novell 
permissions did 20 years ago. Without the nice interface, though.

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Re: [CentOS] best ways to do mysql backup

2010-08-16 Thread Matt
> currently tar  is not feasible as the data is too huge  and  the same goes
> with mysqldump
>
> suggestion will be of great help

Not really an answer but a good book on the subject:

http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596807290/

http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101718/

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-16 Thread Dan Carl
On 8/12/2010 7:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x?
>
>
> Thanks,
>

I use an Intel Pro 10/100 board on a CentOS 5.5 based router works quite 
well.
I've been using it since RH 7.2 so its well supported under CentOS
I bought mine as a dual and then upgraded it to a quad (was way cheaper 
at the time).
Intel made them for Compaq also.
Dan

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Re: [CentOS] Is oprofile still working?

2010-08-16 Thread Hywel Richards
Mindaugas Riauba wrote:
>>> I notice that you're on 32-bit while I'm on x86_64. That may or may
>>> not be
>>> relevant. I don't have any 32-bit machines around to test on though.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> Maybe this is the problem then.
>>
>> What we need is someone else to report that oprofile works on a 32-bit
>> machine to confirm that I'm totally jinxed :-)
>> 
>
>   Check https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467651
>
>   It looks like in CentOS oprofile is built against older version of
> binutils. When I installed the same version of binutils and oprofile
> from RHEL - everything started to work.
>   

Ha! - so it is just a problem with the way that it was compiled for 
CentOS, then (oprofile getting recompiled before binutils-devel somehow?).

So, I got the centos5 SRPM for oprofile, rebuilt it and installed the 
RPM, and hey presto - a working oprofile again (on ia32).

It looks like the current ia32 CentOS oprofile RPM in circulation, then, 
needs replacing with a recompiled one.

Hywel.

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Re: [CentOS] Is oprofile still working?

2010-08-16 Thread Mindaugas Riauba
>> I notice that you're on 32-bit while I'm on x86_64. That may or may
>> not be
>> relevant. I don't have any 32-bit machines around to test on though.
>>
>>
> Maybe this is the problem then.
>
> What we need is someone else to report that oprofile works on a 32-bit
> machine to confirm that I'm totally jinxed :-)

  Check https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467651

  It looks like in CentOS oprofile is built against older version of
binutils. When I installed the same version of binutils and oprofile
from RHEL - everything started to work.

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Re: [CentOS] Is oprofile still working?

2010-08-16 Thread Hywel Richards
Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
> I guess that means that there is a problem with the data collected. 
> All the
> warnings about vdso ranges that can't be found is strange (I don't get that 
> here). Are the tgids in that list special in any way?
>   
I'm not sure what would make tgids special - as I'm not exactly sure 
what they are in the first place (some sort of special thread id's?).
> Is this on a single machine or on several?
>   
Seems to be happening on two separate machines - both 32bit, though.
> Do you know if this strange behaviour persists over reboots?
>   
Yes, a reboot doesn't seem to make any difference.
> Anything strange in ~/.oprofile? If you don't have customizations remove it 
> and let oprofile re-create it.
>   
I've tried that now - again, doesn't seem to make any difference.

I also uninstalled oprofile, did a "rm -r /var/lib/oprofile", and a 
reinstall, but I still get the same behaviour.

> I notice that you're on 32-bit while I'm on x86_64. That may or may 
> not be
> relevant. I don't have any 32-bit machines around to test on though. 
>
>   
Maybe this is the problem then.

What we need is someone else to report that oprofile works on a 32-bit 
machine to confirm that I'm totally jinxed :-)

Hywel.

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