Re: [CentOS-docs] a general suggestion for all of the doc pages
Am 07.10.10 14:29, schrieb Robert P. J. Day: generalizing somewhat from my earlier note about the securing SSH page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH i don't know what level of intro a page like that should have but when i've presented things like this to classes i've taught, or written short online tutorials, the very first thing i document are the packages involved. That probably depends, yes. But openssh-server *and* openssh are installed on CentOS by default (and enabled by default), so the intro talking about a default install of openssh is quite right here :) You would have to jump through several hoops to get a CentOS install without those two packages. Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] suggestion for HOWTO: bonding multiple NICs
Am 08.10.10 01:19, schrieb Eduardo Grosclaude: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: a student in my RHEL admin class this week specifically asked how to use multiple NICs to add fault tolerance. a good question, i thought. perhaps adding a short HOWTO on that wouldn't be out of line, something like this: http://www.how2centos.com/how-to-set-up-network-bonding-with-centos-5x/ Why the F*** does everybody think he has to do his own docs page instead of working with CentOS to have that documentation in one place? *SIGH* i could even add that as a lab for future classes, where i simply add two USB network adapters to the student's machine and make it an exercise to set up bonding across them. just a thought. http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BondingInterfaces does exist, you may want to put it in sync and check for accuracy as it seems to deal with CentOS 4 only. Which would lead to the question: Do you, Robert P. J. Day, want to update that page to something more current? :) Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
Am 07.10.10 23:55, schrieb Phil Schaffner: Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 05:25 PM: BTW, i do have a wiki username: RobDay. i simply don't have edit rights. Perhaps Ralph will now be willing to remedy that. For which pages exactly (at first)? Sorry, was away for a week, but I see the rest of the discussion has already happened. :) Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] but what if i don't care about centos 4?
Am 09.10.10 11:58, schrieb Robert P. J. Day: so while i'm more than happy to write/update docs, i won't be spending any time whatsoever with centos 4. so what does one do under those circumstances? a) If there already is a page describing CentOS 4 and CentOS 5 uses a different approach: Keep the content as is, mark it as This is how to do it in 4 and then add a And this is how to do it in 5 section. b) If there is no page describing things for 4, and 5 uses a different approach: Add documentation for 5 and clearly state on the page, that this is (probably) only valid on 5. c) If both use the same approach: Nothing to do there, maybe a short mention that it can be used on both. When 6 comes out, the same approach seems to be doable. Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
Am 09.10.10 01:18, schrieb Milos Blazevic: Of course, if we get to it, I'll make sure we discuss it thoroughly on the mailing list before the changes go public. Sure, MilosBlazevic can now edit that page. Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] suggestion for HOWTO: bonding multiple NICs
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Why the F*** does everybody think he has to do his own docs page instead of working with CentOS to have that documentation in one place? *SIGH* Probably the same reason that some in CentOS feel a need to maintain a local wiki chock full of non-unique restatement of matter NOT unique to CentOS, rather than 'upstreaming' improvements to flow down to all below There is ancient precedent from the outside counsel to the upstream asserting that they do NOT want 'deep linking' into the upstream's content, but ... http://lists.freshrpms.net/pipermail/freshrpms-list/2005-February/012515.html particularly: Moreover, our client does not allow others to provide links to our client's web site without permission. http://www.pnaelv.com/letter_body/ -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Am 09.10.10 01:18, schrieb Milos Blazevic: Of course, if we get to it, I'll make sure we discuss it thoroughly on the mailing list before the changes go public. Sure, MilosBlazevic can now edit that page. Regards, Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs Thanks, I'll come back shortly with my suggestion for page changes. -- *Srdacan pozdrav,* *Milos Blazevic* Cert. No: 805010564450148 Email: milos.blaze...@sbb.rs mailto:milos.blaze...@sbb.rs Tel: 064/301 45 78 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS] Xen3.3 rpm for 32Bit?
Try Yum install xen -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Dirk H. Schulz Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:16 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Xen3.3 rpm for 32Bit? Hi folks, I would like to test Xen3.3 on CentOS 5.5 on an older machine which is not 64bit capable. Since this is just a first impression test I do not want to fuzz with compiling the kernels and tools myself (that comes in a later step). Can someone please point me to a repo with 32bit Xen3.3 kernels for CentOS 5? GITCO supplies 64bit kernels only, and googling brought up nothing else. Thanks for any hint or help. Dirk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Qemu network slow
just me who have slow network with qemu without hardware virtualization ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
Les Mikesell wrote: On 10/9/10 2:41 PM, John Hinton wrote: Aside from this, Microsoft seems to love to make changes that break other vendor's software. I can't imagine the frustrations they must feel living in this world. WordPerfect, Adobe and just about everyone has had problems due to some 'upgrade' that broke something in their software. And how would you compare this to, say, the linux kernel regularly breaking every driver module that isn't distributed in source? Go OpenSolaris then. Also OpenOffice and maybe LibreOffice can open docx files...not sure about those from MSO 2010 though... So let's pitch in behind the OpenSolaris Desktop and enjoy binary drivers with an open source kernel/userland environment and upgrade to complaining only about GTK/GNOME and KDE and lack of good desktop applications. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/10/10 10:16 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Go OpenSolaris then. Also OpenOffice and maybe LibreOffice can open docx files...not sure about those from MSO 2010 though... Except OpenSolaris has already been killed by Oracle. There is a fork called Illumos, though. Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
Ben McGinnes wrote: On 10/10/10 10:16 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Go OpenSolaris then. Also OpenOffice and maybe LibreOffice can open docx files...not sure about those from MSO 2010 though... Except OpenSolaris has already been killed by Oracle. There is a fork called Illumos, though. /me shrugs. Yeah, maybe I better start saying Illumos and yelling use OpenIndiana, a distro which uses Illumos. Sun is so dead. If you want a desktop os without binary driver issues, this is it. Although I'd say a fair few use it for other purposes. If you have analog Thrustmaster FLCS, TQS, RCS gear and MIDI keyboards, just endure Linux for the time being. :-p ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: linux desktop market share more than 1%
On 10/10/10 11:31 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: /me shrugs. Yeah, maybe I better start saying Illumos and yelling use OpenIndiana, a distro which uses Illumos. It'll only be an option for x86/x86-64 and with the move to using Fujitsu UltraSPARC chips that contain patented technology which can only be addressed using binary modules in the Solaris kernel. OpenBSD has already run into that wall and Theo was told where to go in no uncertain terms. Sun is so dead. I guess that makes Oracle a necrophiliac. If you want a desktop os without binary driver issues, this is it. Although I'd say a fair few use it for other purposes. If you have analog Thrustmaster FLCS, TQS, RCS gear and MIDI keyboards, just endure Linux for the time being. :-p Poke at these things long enough and you realise that *all* software sucks, some just sucks less than others. ;) Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
toward the end of a class on friday, just for fun, i showed the students how to install git, clone the latest kernel source, and build and install a new kernel. since it was getting close to end of day, i wanted to keep it simple and directed them to just make defconfig to see what would happen. the configuration and build of the kernel and modules worked fine, they installed the kernel and modules, then rebooted but the new kernel panicked almost immediately, apparently whining that it couldn't mount the root filesystem. since they were all running LVM-based systems, i assumed that perhaps we needed to explicitly add LVM support during the config step. i'd still like to be able to build and boot a new kernel on an updated centos box so, later today, i'm going to reinstall 5.5 on a system without LVM (just define some fixed filesystems) to see if that makes a difference. has anyone done this? should i be able to? to recap, all i want to do on a fully-updated centos 5.5 box is * install the development tools * install git * clone the latest kernel repo * make defconfig * make * install new kernel and modules * reboot to new kernel i'm willing to accept that it won't be a perfect kernel and perhaps some drivers will be missing, but at the very least, it should boot without panicking. again, anyone else done this? should it work? i'll try this later today as soon as i have access to my test system again. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: toward the end of a class on friday, just for fun, i showed the students how to install git, clone the latest kernel source, and build and install a new kernel. since it was getting close to end of day, i wanted to keep it simple and directed them to just make defconfig to see what would happen. the configuration and build of the kernel and modules worked fine, they installed the kernel and modules, then rebooted but the new kernel panicked almost immediately, apparently whining that it couldn't mount the root filesystem. since they were all running LVM-based systems, i assumed that perhaps we needed to explicitly add LVM support during the config step. (snip) again, anyone else done this? should it work? i'll try this later today as soon as i have access to my test system again. You can find the answer here :-) http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Akemi Yagi wrote: You can find the answer here :-) http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ that's it? enabling deprecated sysfs? cool, i'll check that later and report back, thanks. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-annou...@centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-requ...@centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-ow...@centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest... Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 i386 cups - security update (Tru Huynh) 2. CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 cups - security update (Tru Huynh) 3. CESA-2010:0750 Important CentOS 3 i386 xpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 4. CESA-2010:0750 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 xpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 5. CESA-2010:0751 Important CentOS 4 i386 xpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 6. CESA-2010:0751 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 xpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 7. CESA-2010:0752 Important CentOS 4 i386 gpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 8. CESA-2010:0752 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 gpdf - security update (Tru Huynh) 9. CESA-2010:0755 Important CentOS 4 i386 cups - security update (Tru Huynh) 10. CESA-2010:0755 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 cups - security update (Tru Huynh) 11. CESA-2010:0753 Important CentOS 4 i386 kdegraphics - security update (Tru Huynh) 12. CESA-2010:0753 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kdegraphics - security update (Tru Huynh) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:00:58 +0200 From: Tru Huynh t...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 i386 cups - security update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 20101009220058.gk23...@sillage.bis.pasteur.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0754 cups security update for CentOS 3 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0754.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20101010/9f439202/attachment-0001.bin -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:04:30 +0200 From: Tru Huynh t...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0754 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 cups - security update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 20101009220430.gl23...@sillage.bis.pasteur.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0754 cups security update for CentOS 3 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0754.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-devel-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.i386.rpm updates/x86_64/RPMS/cups-libs-1.1.17-13.3.70.x86_64.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/cups-1.1.17-13.3.70.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 x86_64 installations by running the command: yum update cups Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xBEFA581B -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20101010/de1c6a7c/attachment-0001.bin -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:05:05 +0200 From: Tru Huynh t...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0750 Important CentOS 3 i386 xpdf - security update To: centos-annou...@centos.org Message-ID: 20101009220505.gm23...@sillage.bis.pasteur.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2010:0750 xpdf security update for CentOS 3 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0750.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/xpdf-2.02-19.el3.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/xpdf-2.02-19.el3.src.rpm
[CentOS] *** OFF LIST *** Was: Re: should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On 10/10/10 16:09, Akemi Yagi wrote: You can find the answer here :-) http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ Akemi Quoted from the above link: As always, Alan and Ned engaged their brains and we tried several things to find a solution. We were not going anywhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Just thought I'd mention, although not grammatically incorrect, the phrase is going nowhere, as in We were going nowhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Made me smile, but we all understand exactly what you mean :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] *** OFF LIST *** Was: Re: should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On 10/10/10 17:05, Ned Slider wrote: On 10/10/10 16:09, Akemi Yagi wrote: You can find the answer here :-) http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ Akemi Quoted from the above link: As always, Alan and Ned engaged their brains and we tried several things to find a solution. We were not going anywhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Just thought I'd mention, although not grammatically incorrect, the phrase is going nowhere, as in We were going nowhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Made me smile, but we all understand exactly what you mean :-) Apologies - that was obviously intended to be off list :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] *** OFF LIST *** Was: Re: should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: On 10/10/10 17:05, Ned Slider wrote: On 10/10/10 16:09, Akemi Yagi wrote: http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ Just thought I'd mention, although not grammatically incorrect, the phrase is going nowhere, as in We were going nowhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Made me smile, but we all understand exactly what you mean :-) Apologies - that was obviously intended to be off list :-) Corrections always appreciated. What really amazed me is the fact you had not seen/decipher that blog for 7 months since I posted it back in March :-P Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] *** OFF LIST *** Was: Re: should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 05:05:35PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: On 10/10/10 16:09, Akemi Yagi wrote: As always, Alan and Ned engaged their brains and we tried several things to find a solution. We were not going anywhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. Just thought I'd mention, although not grammatically incorrect, the phrase is going nowhere, as in We were going nowhere when vanecka posted a fix in this forum thread. To continue off topic, I'd say that's debatable on this side of the Atlantic, though getting anywhere is probably more common. Made me smile, but we all understand exactly what you mean :-) You guys spell funny too, though I like that rock band from your country, the Roulling Stounes. (Yeah, I know I've used that joke privately, but what the heck, let me share my idiocy with the list.) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Kendra: I call it Mr. Pointy. Buffy: You named your stake? Kendra: Yes. Buffy: Remind me to get you a stuffed animal. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] should i (theoretically) be able to boot a git cloned kernel on 5.5?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Akemi Yagi wrote: You can find the answer here :-) http://blog.toracat.org/2010/03/want-a-custom-kernel-on-centos-noo-really/ Akemi and that did it, thanks. so now i'm curious -- do you know what specifically requires the deprecated sysfs format during boot? i followed your blog links and i didn't immediately see an explanation for *why* that fixed it. again, thanks. rday p.s. there were, unsurprisingly, a number of startup script failures but that's something i can handle later. -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 potential release date???
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:51:39 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: [] Redhat does not discuss release dates [] Well, the beta is up : http://www.redhat.com/rhel/beta/ so the corporate experience on this list may be able now to make an educated guess (still an unofficial guess, of course, about the most likely length of time till the first full release a/o that of CentOS 6 -- but still of some use to those of us waiting eagerly ...]. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 potential release date???
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, BeartoothHOS wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:51:39 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: [] Redhat does not discuss release dates [] Well, the beta is up : http://www.redhat.com/rhel/beta/ that is already the *second* beta of RHEL 6, so it's not really news. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6 potential release date???
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 07:08:30PM +, BeartoothHOS wrote: Well, the beta is up : http://www.redhat.com/rhel/beta/ It's been up for many months; in fact this is the second beta cut. so the corporate experience on this list may be able now to make an educated guess (still an unofficial guess, of course, about the most I can guess that the sun will rise in the west tomorrow also, doesn't mean that it's worthwhile to do so. likely length of time till the first full release a/o that of CentOS 6 -- but still of some use to those of us waiting eagerly ...]. No, it's not. Betas do not have a time-line. Red Hat does not publicly discuss release dates. Red Hat does not privately discuss release dates, either. Anything that anyone publishes that may reference a release date is nothing but pure conjecture on their part up to the time that Red Hat makes their official release announcement; as such playing guessing games as to potential release dates is pretty pointless. As previously stated: It will be released when it's released and not a moment before. John -- As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government. -- Dave Barry (3 July 1947-), Pulitzer Prize-winning American author and columnist, Knight Ridder syndicate, New York Daily News, 12 December 2004 pgpJ91NJORDFv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
yes, i've read the online docs and followed a link or two to find a simple way to do this, such as: http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemTapOnCentOS so, these days, is that the canonical way to download source rpms? now, note that i'm not arguing about whether this is a good idea. in my circumstances, i want the ability to just yum download source rpms so that i can have my students poke around in a source rpm and learn how to build one, nothing more. so, is that reasonable? to just manually add an extra repo file according to that link above (which appears to work perfectly well). frankly, the wiki page on downloading from source: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/SourceInstalls seems just a touch on the hysterical side. i don't disagree that installing packages from the source rpm is probably a questionable idea. but that doesn't justify simply not explaining how to do it easily. my plan is to install yum-utils to get yumdownloader, add the repo file suggested above, then have students: $ yumdownloader --source package so they can examine the source of some packages. is the approach i'm suggesting reasonable? thanks. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Robert P. J. Day wrote: so, these days, is that the canonical way to download source rpms? I am substantially certain we have a wiki article on mirroring, and certainly I've written about mirroring over and over again from many approaches [my most recent blog post, aggregated by http://planet.centos.org/ has a recap at the bottom of some of those articles]. wget, lftp, and lynx all work fine. Of course RPM itself is a fine retrieval tool as well and has been __forever__ so, is that reasonable? to just manually add an extra repo file according to that link above (which appears to work perfectly well). It is reasonable only if the user also has the willingness and skills to self-support. We don't (and cannot) support what we dont ship frankly, the wiki page on downloading from source: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/SourceInstalls seems just a touch on the hysterical side. i don't disagree that installing packages from the source rpm is probably a questionable idea. but that doesn't justify simply not explaining how to do it easily. Here is a gun, and bullets. Leave it unloaded and in a locked case and it is perfectly harmless Add another random 'find' and 'great tip to stop RPM from carping about dependencies'with the --nodeps, and BANG, your system is dead. It is all CentOS and RPM's fault, of course - dependency hell, don't you know Yeah -- I know where I am going to send support load, going forward, who is not so hysterical WHAT? you don't want to handle that load RIGHT NOT and for FREE, and on a newbies mis- and partial-information? hunh -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
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Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:56 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: so, is that reasonable? to just manually add an extra repo file according to that link above (which appears to work perfectly well). In my opinion, in most cases there is no particularly good reason to bother compiling a source rpm yourself unless it's something that's not already in a repository. If what you need is not in one of the repositories, then my next step is to either download a src.rpm from somewhere else (fedora, etc.) and see what it takes to compile that, or download the tar archive and see if I can find a .spec file somewhere that does something close to what I'm trying to accomplish. Sometimes there is an old version or a MDK source rpm that contains a .spec file that will provide a starting point. If not, then if it's not a really complex install you can just copy a spec file from another not really complex rpm and use that for a framework. frankly, the wiki page on downloading from source: http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/SourceInstalls seems just a touch on the hysterical side. Sounds like pretty good advice to me. I try really hard to install stuff through rpm's. The only exception is with single-executable programs that can just be tossed into /usr/local/bin or ~/bin or whatever; those are generally programs that I have written myself or little utilities downloaded from here and there. If it's a single-executable program without a bunch of support files and whatnot, and if I'm planning to install it on only one or two computers, then it's probably not worth the effort to create a rpm for it. Anything else, is. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:56 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: so they can examine the source of some packages. is the approach i'm suggesting reasonable? thanks. rday --- All on Debian ? John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 05:56:47PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: my plan is to install yum-utils to get yumdownloader, add the repo file suggested above, then have students: Are these students paying for whatever training you are supplying? John -- The price we pay for money is paid in liberty. -- Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-1894), novelist, essayist, and poet pgpUg21c0A4jF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:56 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: so, is that reasonable? to just manually add an extra repo file according to that link above (which appears to work perfectly well). In my opinion, in most cases there is no particularly good reason to bother compiling a source rpm yourself unless it's something that's not already in a repository. but no one is suggesting that you always want to *compile* a source rpm. perhaps you just want to examine the source, or do a prep, or something. more to the point, it's a little disturbing that the general attitude here seems to be one of, we don't think you should be doing something, so we're not going to tell you how to do it. and some people here wonder why others might want to write their own online centos howtos rather than contribute to centos.org? geez, feel free to stop wondering. if it makes it easier, perhaps that wiki page could be retitled something more general, such as working with source rpms. then it could cover simple repo setup and downloading and, with a suitable warning, also cover building. but it's a little high-handed to not explain how to do something because you've decided it's not something you want *others* to know. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, John R. Dennison wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 05:56:47PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: my plan is to install yum-utils to get yumdownloader, add the repo file suggested above, then have students: Are these students paying for whatever training you are supplying? and on that patronizing, condescending note, this list has pretty much outlived its usefulness. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 18:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: but it's a little high-handed to not explain how to do something because you've decided it's not something you want *others* to know. There is very little to explain, if all you want to do is examine the source. Install rpmdevtools. Run rpmdev-setuptree Pick your favourite mirror. Navigate to the src directory that you're interested in, download the src.rpm rpm -i whatever.src.rpm Your rpm contents are now in ~/rpmbuild. Examine away. The spec is in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS, the source code is in ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES Compile it with rpmbuild -ba whatever.spec. Your binary will be in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS and the new src.rpm is in ~/rpmbuild/SRPMS. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
Before yum and when I used to have time for it, I compiled from source everything on my machine. It wasn't that big of a deal. Just took some time. The pay-off was significant in performance and speed... reason being that, if you configure gcc for your particular cpu, the code is able to take advantage of the hard-wired instruction set particular to your cpu which don't exist in the generic cpu the repo binaries are compiled for. IIRC, just to get the source code out of an rpm you could download the source rpm and simply do rpm -i /path/to/package.src.rpm or in one step do rpm -i ftp://path/to/package.src.rpm Alternatively, you could also check out Slackware. The last time I looked at it (several years ago) it didn't use rpm or apt or any package management system at all, just tgz files. This is what Linux used to be before there was a redhat... and it's generally how code files are handled in development before they become rpms... or whatever. Source code shouldn't scare anyone. It's interesting stuff and harmless... just text files, after all. If your students are going to hack around with it and compile it (which I would hope they would do), then of course you'll want to take appropriate measures. More people should be doing this kind of stuff. The world needs more open source developers. Looking at existing code is a great tool for learning. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 18:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: but it's a little high-handed to not explain how to do something because you've decided it's not something you want *others* to know. There is very little to explain, if all you want to do is examine the source. Install rpmdevtools. Run rpmdev-setuptree Really? ]$ yum search rpmdevtools Loaded plugins: fastestmirror addons | 951 B 00:00 base | 2.1 kB 00:00 extras | 2.1 kB 00:00 updates | 1.9 kB 00:00 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Warning: No matches found for: rpmdevtools No Matches found John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 18:58 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: but it's a little high-handed to not explain how to do something because you've decided it's not something you want *others* to know. There is very little to explain, if all you want to do is examine the source. Install rpmdevtools. Run rpmdev-setuptree Really? ]$ yum search rpmdevtools Loaded plugins: fastestmirror addons | 951 B 00:00 base | 2.1 kB 00:00 extras | 2.1 kB 00:00 updates | 1.9 kB 00:00 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Warning: No matches found for: rpmdevtools No Matches found John ___ rpmdevtools is in the epel repo so if you dont have epel installed and setup you wont see it with a yum search -- Shaun http://lostonsvault.org twitter - http://twitter.com/lostson identi - http://identi.ca/lostson ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shaun Jones wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: Warning: No matches found for: rpmdevtools No Matches found John Rpmdevtools for CentOS is available from EPEL. http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rpmdevtools -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMsmnWAAoJEPXCUD/44PWqSWAP/igLh9I3KtMotN2k56b7rjGq noDp55170eMWx+fN1geYeRNskahRiLFZfAnG3d7Zid4mSpiHvgK3HyIxxkdpIPo0 FI96h8qgDDkbYofpe2HCXHICyn7ei9p9nwJ5WrINbjHJSytfFQZBGve57KiNzLVJ zZXW05Nq5JpAHQAQ365EwHpsgiTga7PVdPfVv6NhgI3OliaJfvL1pc6VzPqJpq3w xI+h4UcWOJbipwrC5AK7GPMbLhHQl+T5uKl1OQAvJ3GIh3FEMuRsxKE9mg9opMY9 d9LOEwWbbsoExa3qBRU9vQoNQjP6HbJsQpNYiTxlir81u3vPfqbxc78RK5iySjlj ctaq15uZ/JSLAb2jTXk4yu8QovFX4jTrigGrD0gdx/itWOccywgcAXqQCB5QJMJZ jAoDHvoIcRe4xgRr7dtqVxxGY25mcY+vC76Q9r1cUIAm8A4qTXxS0B2TLLQq/sfb Fg2avvsV4dw7ATezcFOL7Y08pwKgCip+evHzLfvpJ0YOZA6bAc2UCMKsUjbdGuXb qCJ513s73JzbdX6GpXnVW0ET7lraTqXCoaD+XvfRPHAx9I16b4RO3d8q91oXyW67 4U0h2aivWqP81FjzzsGXdE7/f9qcFKXdZKHIzULaDEUegfEHBMXzuMQndAma/RXw mjns7pyjFLZLqb+X3ZTg =ZjtA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, JohnS wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
There is very little to explain, if all you want to do is examine the
source.
Install rpmdevtools. Run rpmdev-setuptree
Warning: No matches found for: rpmdevtools
No Matches found
As I recall, rpmdevtools is a Fedora-ism
The actions in question set up a local %{_topdir} and then the
RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS and so forth directories for a local user
[r...@trap64 log]# su - herrold
[herr...@trap64 ~]$ cat .rpmmacros
%_topdir /home/herrold/rpmbuild
%make make
%dist orc
%releasetagsuffix orc
%vendor %{dist}
#
[herr...@trap64 ~]$ ls -l ~/rpmbuild/
total 40
drwxrwxr-x 8 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 BUILD
drwxrwxr-x 4 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 4 16:53 RPMS
drwxrwxr-x 3 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SOURCES
drwxrwxr-x 2 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SPECS
drwxrwxr-x 2 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SRPMS
[herr...@trap64 ~]$
I think at one point the referenced package had a copy of a
little script I've long since published at:
ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/COLUG/RPM-build-tree.txt
itself based on a post on the mailing list rpm-list
-- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 21:35 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, JohnS wrote:
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
There is very little to explain, if all you want to do is examine the
source.
Install rpmdevtools. Run rpmdev-setuptree
Warning: No matches found for: rpmdevtools
No Matches found
As I recall, rpmdevtools is a Fedora-ism
The actions in question set up a local %{_topdir} and then the
RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS and so forth directories for a local user
[r...@trap64 log]# su - herrold
[herr...@trap64 ~]$ cat .rpmmacros
%_topdir /home/herrold/rpmbuild
%make make
%dist orc
%releasetagsuffix orc
%vendor %{dist}
#
[herr...@trap64 ~]$ ls -l ~/rpmbuild/
total 40
drwxrwxr-x 8 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 BUILD
drwxrwxr-x 4 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 4 16:53 RPMS
drwxrwxr-x 3 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SOURCES
drwxrwxr-x 2 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SPECS
drwxrwxr-x 2 herrold herrold 4096 Oct 10 21:12 SRPMS
[herr...@trap64 ~]$
RPM-build-tree.txt
I think at one point the referenced package had a copy of a
little script I've long since published at:
ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/COLUG/RPM-build-tree.txt
itself based on a post on the mailing list rpm-list
-- Russ herrold
:-) Well I knew where it was, it's just not in the distro. (fedorism)
He would yet be stuck installing another repo for the people. Would be
easier to use your Russ RPM-build-tree.txt script for him to do it. I
like this option also added to it %_tmppath /foo/hoo
John
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Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax
someone reminded me that i was missing the posix account information I needed i LDAP. I have added the corresponding posix accounts in LDAP I wish to use: 12 uid=bluethundr,ou=summitnjops,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: summitnjops ou: staff cn: Tim objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: posixAccount uid: bluethundr uidNumber: 1001 gidNumber: 1002 homeDirectory: /home/bluethundr userPassword: secret gecos: Tim 13 cn=root,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: staff cn: Enoch Root cn: Root, Enoch cn: root objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: posixAccount uid: root uidNumber: 1 gidNumber: 1 homeDirectory: /root userPassword: secret gecos: Enoch Root So tho anon search can work this more specific one used in ldap.conf can in fact find the entries: ldapsearch -x -h ldap -D cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com -w secret -b dc=summitnjhome,dc=com # bluethundr, summitnjops, staff, summitnjhome.com dn: uid=bluethundr,ou=summitnjops,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: summitnjops ou: staff cn: Tim objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: posixAccount uid: bluethundr uidNumber: 1001 gidNumber: 1002 homeDirectory: /home/bluethundr gecos: Tim # root, staff, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=root,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: staff cn: Enoch Root cn: Root, Enoch cn: root objectClass: top objectClass: organizationalUnit objectClass: posixAccount uid: root uidNumber: 1 gidNumber: 1 homeDirectory: /root gecos:: RW5vY2ggUm9vdCA= Yet su to these accounts is still broken: [bluethu...@lcen0t02:~]$:su - root Password: Last login: Sun Oct 10 14:57:29 on pts/9 logging in slapd.conf has been set to 256 loglevel256 pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid argsfile/var/run/openldap/slapd.args syslog.conf has been told to log openldap errors to /var/log/openldap.log local4.*/var/log/openldap.log [r...@lcen0t02:/usr/local/etc/openldap]#tail -f /var/log/openldap.log Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1000 op=1 RESULT tag=97 err=49 text= Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1000 op=2 UNBIND Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1000 fd=11 closed Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 fd=11 ACCEPT from IP=127.0.0.1:60289 (IP=0.0.0.0:389) Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 op=0 BIND dn=cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com method=128 Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=49 text= Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 op=1 BIND dn=cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com method=128 Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 op=1 RESULT tag=97 err=49 text= Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 op=2 UNBIND Oct 11 02:17:01 LCEN0T02 slapd[42790]: conn=1001 fd=11 closed this is what is going on in the message logs: Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 su: pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Invalid credentials) Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 su: pam_ldap: error trying to bind (Invalid credentials) Oct 11 02:12:44 LCEN0T02 su: in _openpam_check_error_code(): pam_sm_acct_mgmt(): unexpected return value 11 Any idea why su _still_ isn't authenticating even tho the user accounts have been added to LDAP??? :::sigh::: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys! Unfortunately I have a new wrinkle. While I certainly got to make my sudoers work through LDAP (thanks to those who helped) unfortunately PAM is unhappy at the moment. So, while sudo is working in ldap, for any of the services that need to authenticate through pam (i.e. ssh and su) it is still a no-go. I am getting pam authentication errors in my log files. But LDAP is certainly doing it's job! Using the account I have setup in LDAP as the pam user I can search my base DN: [bluethu...@bluethundr-desktop:~ ] $:ldapsearch -x -h ldap -D cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com -w secret -b dc=summitnjhome,dc=com # extended LDIF # # LDAPv3 # base dc=summitnjhome,dc=com with scope subtree # filter: (objectclass=*) # requesting: ALL # # summitnjhome.com dn: dc=summitnjhome,dc=com dc: summitnjhome objectClass: dcObject objectClass: organization o: Summit NJ Home # staff, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: staff objectClass: organizationalUnit # summitnjops, staff, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=summitnjops,ou=staff,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: summitnjops objectClass: organizationalUnit # people, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=people,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com objectClass: organizationalUnit ou: people # Services, summitnjhome.com dn: ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com ou: services objectClass: organizationalUnit # pam_ldap, Services, summitnjhome.com dn: cn=pam_ldap,ou=Services,dc=summitnjhome,dc=com cn: pam_ldap objectClass: top objectClass: inetOrgPerson sn: PAM userPassword::
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
More people should be doing this kind of stuff. The world needs more open source developers. Looking at existing code is a great tool for learning. +1 As Karanbir put it in his interview in Distrowatch a few months ago, CentOS is not only great as a stable and predictable server distrib, but can also serve as a basis for going further in one particular area, leaving the rest rock solid and untouched. - create rpmbuild environment as here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment - install 'mock' (IMPORTANT: install the one from CentOS, exclude the one from EPEL in your repo file) - download SRPM(s) - (optional) if taken from Fedora after around 9 or 10, rpm -i *.src.rpm won't work, unpack it manually with Archive Manager, put the spec file in SPECS, the rest in SOURCES - download the latest source, or hack the spec file, etc. - create the SRPM: rpmbuild -bs --nodeps rpmbuild/SPECS/myspecfile.spec - build the SRPM you just created in mock (with debug option enabled to see all the logs, but they will also be in build.log) - do it over and over until your build dependencies are right and it completely builds - retrieve your RPMs, put them in a directory, use 'createrepo' to create metadata, use this directory as an additional repo for mock (update /etc/mock/*.cfg) - create a virtual machine (using KVM, VirtualBox, ...) - install your binaries RPM in the virtual machine (you could expose the above created local repo via httpd or NFS) - break your dummy virtual machine as much as you want - if what you have done could be useful to someone else, you are free to redistribute it (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html), just be clear that it is not supported CentOS, especially if you updated core parts (*-plus repositories) [1] building in mock is really efficient and clean: it takes care of the dependencies in a clean chrooted install, otherwise you end up having plenty of build dependencies on your workstation and if you have to build the dependency of the dependency of the dependency, install it in order to build the next one, etc. you're pretty much sure to break your workstation. You can use 'mock shell' to go and build manually in the chrooted install in case something went wrong and you want to study it without redoing the whole process. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] recommended way to install source rpms?
On 11/10/10 10:44 AM, ken wrote: Alternatively, you could also check out Slackware. In my opinion Slackware is still the best distribution for actually learning about GNU/Linux. I'm a little biased, though, I've been running it since 4.0 (and had accounts on other systems running it prior to that). The last time I looked at it (several years ago) it didn't use rpm or apt or any package management system at all, just tgz files. Recently that's changed to .txz for the greater level of compression, but oterwise it's the same. Pkgtool is really simple and straight forward. This is what Linux used to be before there was a redhat... and it's generally how code files are handled in development before they become rpms... or whatever. Slack is great because of its strong adherance to the KISS principle. Source code shouldn't scare anyone. It's interesting stuff and harmless... just text files, after all. If your students are going to hack around with it and compile it (which I would hope they would do), then of course you'll want to take appropriate measures. Yep. I still don't see why some people are so afraid of: ./configure [options] make make install [make clean] If it doesn't work it will tell you. Regards, Ben -- Ben McGinnes http://www.adversary.org/ Twitter: benmcginnes Systems Administrator, Writer, ICT Consultant Encrypted email preferred - primary OpenPGP/GPG key: 0xA04AE313 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x371AC5BFA04AE313 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ldif invalid per syntax
I have added the corresponding posix accounts in LDAP I wish to use: Here is a LDIF snippet that works for users authenticated via LDAP: dn: uid=myuser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetOrgPerson objectClass: posixAccount objectClass: top cn: FirstName LastName gidNumber: 1130 homeDirectory: /home/myuser sn: LastName uid: myuser uidNumber: 1130 gecos: FirstName LastName givenName: FirstName loginShell: /bin/bash mail: myu...@example.com userPassword:: *** dn: uid=myuser,ou=Group,dc=example,dc=com objectClass: posixGroup objectClass: top cn: myuser gidNumber: 1130 Yet su to these accounts is still broken: I would recommend you to (maybe you have done some already): - check your ACLs in slpad.conf, quite a few fields need to be visible when doing anonymous binds: http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200208/msg00855.html (you may want to add or remove some depending on what you want to achieve, but first try a loose configuration, in order to have something working) - use a simple, standard, structure: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com ou=Group,dc=example,dc=com - use authconfig to generate the configs (it will update pam, nss, and various ldap.conf), you can then review them and deploy them as files, although I have found that running the command is the most predictable way to replicate a working config on client systems authconfig --enableldap --enableldapauth --enablecache --enablemkhomedir --ldapserver=ldap://myhost --ldapbasedn=dc=example,dc=com --passalgo=sha256 --updateall - test all this on a separate clean environment (typically a virtual machine, before deploying it) - maybe use the scripts in /usr/share/openldap/migration for your first import Any idea why su _still_ isn't authenticating even tho the user accounts have been added to LDAP??? :::sigh::: Getting this to work was long and painful for me, but worth the effort. Good luck. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] installing 32 bit vlc on Centos 5.5??
I'm in yum dependency hell using epel, rpmforge and rpmfusion repos to install vlc on 32 bit Centos 5.5. Anyone have a better idea? Doesn't really have to be vlc I just want to be able to play a dvd and Movie Player complains about missing plugins without saying what they are. Dave -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] installing 32 bit vlc on Centos 5.5??
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:36:19PM -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: I'm in yum dependency hell using epel, rpmforge and rpmfusion repos to install vlc on 32 bit Centos 5.5. Anyone have a better idea? Doesn't really have to be vlc I just want to be able to play a dvd and Movie Player complains about missing plugins without saying what they are. Is movieplayer mplayer? If not, that's what I'd suggest, it's always handled everything I've thrown at it--I install it from rpmforge. I also have rpmforge's vlc, (and rpm -qR |wc -l shows 140 dependencies), compared to mplayer's 84. I would strongly recommend using priorities. If you give a sample of the sort of dependency error you're getting, someone might be better able to help. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Buffy: No, but, see, Mom, that doesn't really work for me. We're just going to the magic shop, no school supplies there. Dawn: Yeah, Mom. I'm not going to Hogwarts. (chuckles) Hog- (looks at Buffy, who's not amused) Jeez, crack a book sometime. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] installing 32 bit vlc on Centos 5.5??
Quoting Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:36:19PM -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: I'm in yum dependency hell using epel, rpmforge and rpmfusion repos to install vlc on 32 bit Centos 5.5. Anyone have a better idea? Doesn't really have to be vlc I just want to be able to play a dvd and Movie Player complains about missing plugins without saying what they are. Is movieplayer mplayer? I don't think so I think it's Totem If not, that's what I'd suggest, it's always handled everything I've thrown at it--I install it from rpmforge. I also have rpmforge's vlc, (and rpm -qR |wc -l shows 140 dependencies), compared to mplayer's 84. I would strongly recommend using priorities. ok, will do If you give a sample of the sort of dependency error you're getting, someone might be better able to help. good idea, will have to wait until tomorrow now. Thanks d -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Buffy: No, but, see, Mom, that doesn't really work for me. We're just going to the magic shop, no school supplies there. Dawn: Yeah, Mom. I'm not going to Hogwarts. (chuckles) Hog- (looks at Buffy, who's not amused) Jeez, crack a book sometime. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
