[CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Seeing as IPV4 is near it's end of life
(http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm),
I'm curios as who know whether everyone is ready for the changeover to
IPV6?

Is anyone using it in production already, and what are your experiences with it?

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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Michel van Deventer
Hi,

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 13:50 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Seeing as IPV4 is near it's end of life
> (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm),
> I'm curios as who know whether everyone is ready for the changeover to
> IPV6?
> 
> Is anyone using it in production already, and what are your experiences with 
> it?
> 
I have a dualstack (IPV4/IPV6) ADSL connection at home and all my
machines are IPV6 connected, some in combination with IPV4, but I have a
few IPV6 only machines. My mail and some websites are adressable with
IPV6.

Is this really production ? Well, sort of :)

Regards,

Michel



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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread RedShift
On 12/05/10 12:50, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> Seeing as IPV4 is near it's end of life
> (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm),
> I'm curios as who know whether everyone is ready for the changeover to
> IPV6?
>
> Is anyone using it in production already, and what are your experiences with 
> it?
>

Haven't switched yet, I have IPv6 at home using sixxs.

IMO the slow adoption is caused by the complexity IPv6 brings. They should have 
just modified IP to use 128 bits addresses and leave the rest as is. For 
example, what is the use of a link scoped IPv6 address? Why would you want to 
assign an IP address to yourself that's of no use at all? I can't even figure 
out what address ranges are reserved for private use, is there even such a 
concept in IPv6? I know that IPv6 is supposed to allow every address to be 
publicly route-able but having your computers in private ranges and use NAT has 
big advantages towards security. And what about this arbitrarily chosen /64 
subnet? So we're returning back to classfull routing? A provider won't be able 
to purchase a subnet greater than /64 from for example RIPE? Stateless 
auto-configuration is a useless feature, just like APIPA. I much prefer DHCP 
and thankfully it still exists for v6.

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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, RedShift  wrote:
> On 12/05/10 12:50, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
>>
>> (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm),
>
> Haven't switched yet, I have IPv6 at home using sixxs.
>
> I can't even figure out what address ranges are reserved for private use, is 
> there even such a concept in IPv6?

I think that site-local ("fec0:: - fef::") is the ipv6
more-or-less-equivalent of ipv4 private addresses.
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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Brian Miller

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 14:13 +0100, RedShift wrote:

> 
>  And what about this arbitrarily chosen /64 subnet? So we're returning back 
> to classfull routing? A provider won't be able to purchase a subnet greater 
> than /64 from for example RIPE? 
> 

Within a reasonable planning horizon, what provider would need
~1.84*10^19 (or for those who don't grok exponential notation
184,00,000,000,000,000,000) addresses?

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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 08:21:49AM -0500, Tom H wrote:
> I think that site-local ("fec0:: - fef::") is the ipv6
> more-or-less-equivalent of ipv4 private addresses.

fec0::/48 is site local; it'll never be routed to the internet.

I found http://www.litech.org/~jeff/private/ipv6primer/html/ very useful as
a learning resource.  I probably need to reread it again :-)

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[CentOS] Yum Updates dependencies missing (rpmforge)

2010-12-05 Thread Lanny Marcus
There are updates available, for the below multimedia packages (CentOS
5.5, 32 bit), but I'm getting missing dependency errors from yum
update for these.

---> Package directfb.i386 0:1.2.10-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package ffmpeg.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package ffmpeg-libpostproc.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package gstreamer-plugins-ugly.i386 0:0.10.11-2.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package kino.i386 0:1.3.4-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package libquicktime.i386 0:1.2.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package lzo.i386 0:2.04-1.el5.rf set to be updated
---> Package mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.44.svn20100703.el5.rf set to be updated

Probably anyone wanting to update the above packages should wait a day
or two and hopefully the dependencies will become available.

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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Rob Del Vecchio
FWIW, I have a netbook (Windows 7) which does something interesting.  I
bring it up because it is something that may be applicable to CentOS.
There is a tunneling pseudo-interface which is only IPv6; it has two
addresses, the IPv6 address, and a local-link IPv6 address.  The hardware
interfaces also have two addresses, an IPv6 local-link back to the tunnel,
and an IPv4 address given by the router.
However, I am not sure that this is efficient for anything other than a
light-use personal machine, and unfortunately I'm not sure what happens when
it is connected to an IPv6 router! ):
Attached is a screen shot since I'm not sure that my description gave it
justice.

Rob

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Tom H  wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, RedShift  wrote:
> > On 12/05/10 12:50, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> >>
> >> (
> http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm
> ),
> >
> > Haven't switched yet, I have IPv6 at home using sixxs.
> >
> > I can't even figure out what address ranges are reserved for private use,
> is there even such a concept in IPv6?
>
> I think that site-local ("fec0:: - fef::") is the ipv6
> more-or-less-equivalent of ipv4 private addresses.
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Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-05 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Rudi Ahlers  wrote:
> Seeing as IPV4 is near it's end of life
> (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm),
> I'm curios as who know whether everyone is ready for the changeover to
> IPV6?
>
> Is anyone using it in production already, and what are your experiences with 
> it?
>
> --
> Kind Regards
> Rudi Ahlers
> SoftDux
>
> Website: http://www.SoftDux.com
> Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com
> Office: 087 805 9573
> Cell: 082 554 7532

I've been using IPv6 with Vyatta through a tunnel broker (he.net). I'm
running a dual stack configuration and have a few websites enabled. I
have been holding off my email as Zimbra isn't fully compliant. The
other holdup is that ISPs, like Verizon FIOS, aren't supporting it.  I
called Verizon FIOS's business support line and when I asked about
obtaining a IPVv6 /64 or /48, he asked me what IPv6 was. For now the
tunnel broker is great, but it adds complexity and there is no SLA.

What bothers me about IPv6 is that they used : to separate the address
portions. This makes extra work to go directly to the IP in a browser,
configure Apache, etc as it has to be put in []. You also can't browse
IPv6 network shares by IP. At least in Windows you have to replace :
with - and append . ipv6-literal.net

Stateless auto configuration works great, but I don't use it on my
servers. The address becomes too long to keep track of so I have
manually configured them. It looks like most sites supporting IPv6
have done the same.

With stateless configuration on the clients I loose the dynamic DNS
that DHCP provides. The DHCP6 server on CentOS 5.5 doesn't support
dynamic DNS updates either. I use it to only hand out the DNS server
address. CentOS 6 will come with the ISC DHCPv6 server that will
support dynamic DNS. When that happens I plan to switch over to DHCP
entirely so DNS will be updated. It is really annoying to see last
login by some random IPv6 address on my CentOS boxes.

It is great to see that NAT is gone. No more UPnP or NAT port mapping
nonsense. On my Vyatta box I have just blocked all incoming IPv6
traffic that is no established or related. I think allowed only ICMP
echo request to any IPv6 address and ports for my servers. This makes
it just as secure as IPv4 with NAT.

The other issue I foresee is all the Windows XP users. Windows XP
doesn't support a native IPv6 implementation. It can only query DNS
through IPv4. Microsoft needs to pull the plug on Windows XP. Although
running IPv6 only is a few if not more years away.

Ryan
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Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Friday 03 December 2010 21:13:37 Keith Roberts wrote:
...
> Having made regular backups to the hard drive, I then as I
> feel is appropriate, make CD/DVD backups from the backup
> drive.

Just be careful with CD/DVDs since data quality and persistence over time is 
questionable.

/Peter
 
> I've lost hard drives and data in the past, so now I take
> precautions not to loose any data I need.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Keith Roberts


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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-05 Thread Robert Spangler
On Friday 03 December 2010 19:30, Michael D. Berger wrote:

>  In the control script of my daemon in /etc/init.d?, I have
> # chkconfig: 35 97 3
>
>  The result of this is that I have links:
> /etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K03...
> /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S97...
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S97...
>
>  As mentioned in a previous thread, my complex daemon throws
>  an exception when I shutdown.  Perhaps things might be better
>  if I had:
> /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/K03...
>
>  Might this be a good idea?  If so, how can I make it happen
>  automatically?

Check /etc/rc.d/rc6.d and insure that you have K??yourscriptname in there.  It 
looks like your script demon was setup to be run but was never properly setup 
to be shut down.  When shutting down the system the system is switched to run 
level 6.


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Re: [CentOS] Yum Updates dependencies missing (rpmforge)

2010-12-05 Thread Negative
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Lanny Marcus wrote:

> There are updates available, for the below multimedia packages (CentOS
> 5.5, 32 bit), but I'm getting missing dependency errors from yum
> update for these.
>
> ---> Package directfb.i386 0:1.2.10-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg-libpostproc.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package gstreamer-plugins-ugly.i386 0:0.10.11-2.el5.rf set to be
> updated
> ---> Package kino.i386 0:1.3.4-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package libquicktime.i386 0:1.2.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package lzo.i386 0:2.04-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.44.svn20100703.el5.rf set to be updated
>
> Probably anyone wanting to update the above packages should wait a day
> or two and hopefully the dependencies will become available.
>
> Lanny
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>


Same goes for 64-bit.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum Updates dependencies missing (rpmforge)

2010-12-05 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Negative wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Lanny Marcus wrote:
>
> There are updates available, for the below multimedia packages (CentOS
> 5.5, 32 bit), but I'm getting missing dependency errors from yum
> update for these.
>
> ---> Package directfb.i386 0:1.2.10-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg-libpostproc.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package gstreamer-plugins-ugly.i386 0:0.10.11-2.el5.rf set to
> be updated
> ---> Package kino.i386 0:1.3.4-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package libquicktime.i386 0:1.2.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package lzo.i386 0:2.04-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.44.svn20100703.el5.rf set to be
> updated
>
>
>
> Same goes for 64-bit.

those are from rpmforge, see this post (feedback is requested, but on 
the rpmforge list):
http://lists.rpmforge.net/pipermail/users/2010-December/003471.html

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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Robert Spangler
 wrote:
> On Friday 03 December 2010 19:30, Michael D. Berger wrote:
>
>>  In the control script of my daemon in /etc/init.d?, I have
>>     # chkconfig: 35 97 3
>>
>>  The result of this is that I have links:
>>     /etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K03...
>>     /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S97...
>>     /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S97...
>>
>>  As mentioned in a previous thread, my complex daemon throws
>>  an exception when I shutdown.  Perhaps things might be better
>>  if I had:
>>     /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/K03...
>>
>>  Might this be a good idea?  If so, how can I make it happen
>>  automatically?
>
> Check /etc/rc.d/rc6.d and insure that you have K??yourscriptname in there.  It
> looks like your script demon was setup to be run but was never properly setup
> to be shut down.  When shutting down the system the system is switched to run
> level 6.

This is not uncommon: some init scripts merely set up initial
conditions, such as the "freenx" init script that assures that
/tmp/.X11-unix is configured correctly for NX's necessary X sessions.

Others were written by crack monkeys who wouldn't know how to properly
start or stop a daemon if it came with a toggle switch and signes in
six languages: they just slap somethin in "rc.local", then someone
makes them transfer it to a real init script, and someone else has to
clean up the mess.

That's happened several times to me recently. You do *not* add system
users in init scripts, and you don't "cd" to directores that might not
be successfully NFS mounted, then run "rm" commands wherever your
failed "cd" wound up. This way lies system destruction.
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Re: [CentOS] Yum Updates dependencies missing (rpmforge)

2010-12-05 Thread ken
On 12/05/2010 08:43 AM Lanny Marcus wrote:
> There are updates available, for the below multimedia packages (CentOS
> 5.5, 32 bit), but I'm getting missing dependency errors from yum
> update for these.
> 
> ---> Package directfb.i386 0:1.2.10-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package ffmpeg-libpostproc.i386 0:0.6.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package gstreamer-plugins-ugly.i386 0:0.10.11-2.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package kino.i386 0:1.3.4-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package libquicktime.i386 0:1.2.1-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package lzo.i386 0:2.04-1.el5.rf set to be updated
> ---> Package mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.44.svn20100703.el5.rf set to be updated
> 
> Probably anyone wanting to update the above packages should wait a day
> or two and hopefully the dependencies will become available.
> 
> Lanny
> http://www.magazines-magazine.com/

I just updated all of these.  Except for having to delete some packages
(it took awhile-- too long-- to figure out which ones), it went fine.

Packages I had to erase: gstreamer-plugins-bad directfb


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[CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Ritika Garg
CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the
hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Luigi Rosa
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Ritika Garg said the following on 05/12/10 19:22:

> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the hard
> disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.

Check if te file system is mounted read-only, what's the output of mount 
command?



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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Ron Loftin

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 23:52 +0530, Ritika Garg wrote:
> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from
> the hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.

Yes.  If you go to this page on the ElRepo site:

http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-ntfs

and check the limitations you will see that this is the expected
behavior.

If you want full write capabilities with NTFS I suggest that you remove
kmod-ntfs and instead use the fuse-ntfs-3g package from RPMForge.  That
relies on DKMS ( which works well enough for me ) and has full
read-write capabilities.

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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ritika Garg  wrote:
> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the
> hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.

Do you also need the centosplus kernel, which has the NTFS features
enabled in the linux kernel ".config" file at compilation time?

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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Ron Loftin

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 13:40 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ritika Garg  wrote:
> > CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
> > kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> > I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the
> > hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
> 
> Do you also need the centosplus kernel, which has the NTFS features
> enabled in the linux kernel ".config" file at compilation time?

Not for fuse-ntfs-3g.  If you install the RPMForge repo, yum will do the
rest, and it all plays very nicely with the CentOS standard kernels.

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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread RedShift
On 12/05/10 19:22, Ritika Garg wrote:
> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package 
> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the 
> hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
>
>
>

The ntfs kernel module can only read. If you want write support, use ntfs-3g. 
It is included in rpmforge.
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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ritika Garg  wrote:
>> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
>> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
>> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from the
>> hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
>
> Do you also need the centosplus kernel, which has the NTFS features
> enabled in the linux kernel ".config" file at compilation time?

Just for the record. The centosplus kernel does not have NTFS turned
on. There is a bug in the NTFS code but the upstream vendor would not
fix it because it is not enabled in their kernel:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481495

Therefore it was decided not to enable it in the cplus kernel.
Besides, as already pointed out in this thread, ntfs-3g is better than
the kernel ntfs module functionally and it is actively maintained.

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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Niki Kovacs
Ritika Garg a écrit :
> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package 
> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from 
> the hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
> 

I've been following this thread, and I'm wondering: why bother with NTFS 
in the first place? If you have a mixed environment where you need 
Windows to access your external hard disk, you might as well format it 
with a FAT filesystem. Linux supports FAT natively, without making you 
jump through burning loops.

If you don't know how to achieve this, here's how :

1) Backup all your data.

2) Given your external disk is /dev/sda, launch fdisk, delete the NTFS 
partition and create a single FAT partition (hex code 0b).

3) Install 'dosfstools' and format your disk :

# mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1

4) From now on, mount your disk as FAT :

# mount [-t vfat] /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk

Cheers,

Niki Kovacs
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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Barry Brimer
> I've been following this thread, and I'm wondering: why bother with NTFS
> in the first place? If you have a mixed environment where you need
> Windows to access your external hard disk, you might as well format it
> with a FAT filesystem. Linux supports FAT natively, without making you
> jump through burning loops.

There could be many reasons why ntfs support is needed, such as reading a 
disk that is not your own.  Also, keep in mind that FAT has a 4 GB file 
size limit.
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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Niki Kovacs  wrote:
> Ritika Garg a écrit :
>> CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package
>> kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
>> I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from
>> the hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
>>
>
> I've been following this thread, and I'm wondering: why bother with NTFS
> in the first place? If you have a mixed environment where you need
> Windows to access your external hard disk, you might as well format it
> with a FAT filesystem. Linux supports FAT natively, without making you
> jump through burning loops.

External USB drives, USB sticks, and iSCSI devices.  USB sticks, in
particular, are often pre-formatted with NTFS.
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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:29:47 +0100 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> Ritika Garg a écrit :
> > CentOS 5.5 is installed in the system. I installed the package 
> > kmod-ntfs-2.1.27-3.el5.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
> > I mounted Seagate external hard disk. I am able to copy contents from 
> > the hard disk to the system but not from the system to the hard disk.
> > 
> 
> I've been following this thread, and I'm wondering: why bother with NTFS 
> in the first place? If you have a mixed environment where you need 
> Windows to access your external hard disk, you might as well format it 
> with a FAT filesystem. Linux supports FAT natively, without making you 
> jump through burning loops.
> 
> If you don't know how to achieve this, here's how :
> 
> 1) Backup all your data.
> 
> 2) Given your external disk is /dev/sda, launch fdisk, delete the NTFS 
> partition and create a single FAT partition (hex code 0b).
> 
> 3) Install 'dosfstools' and format your disk :
> 
> # mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
> 
> 4) From now on, mount your disk as FAT :
> 
> # mount [-t vfat] /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Niki Kovacs

Will FAT support the larger external disks, such as the .5TB and larger?

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[CentOS] DVD drive ownership/permissions group ownership = mail?

2010-12-05 Thread Dave
I can change the group ownershipp of the DVD drive, but if I log out &
in again it changes back. Is there a way to make a change permanent?
How could I figure out what process is changing this back?

ls -la /dev/scd0
brw-rw 1 root mail 11, 0 Nov 12 15:17 /dev/scd0


mahalo,
Dave
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-05 Thread Michael D. Berger
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 10:50:53 -0500, Robert Spangler wrote:

> On Friday 03 December 2010 19:30, Michael D. Berger wrote:
> 
[...]
> 
> Check /etc/rc.d/rc6.d and insure that you have K??yourscriptname in
> there.  It looks like your script demon was setup to be run but was
> never properly setup to be shut down.  When shutting down the system the
> system is switched to run level 6.

The correct K link does appear in /etc/rc.d/rc6.d .  I wrote a "stop"
script that stops my daemon, does sleep 5, and then calls shutdown
(or reboot).  I don't like this kluge, but it does work.  Could it
be that my daemon stop procedure is too slow or complex for
shutdown?  The TERM code does send stop messages to and join
several threads, which in turn do the same to nested threads. Each
thread does some stop logging, among other things.

Mike.

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Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-05 Thread Niki Kovacs
Robert Heller a écrit :
> 
> Will FAT support the larger external disks, such as the .5TB and larger?
> 

I read the replies to my previous posts, and I get your point, since I 
didn't know about the various limitations. It's probably due to the fact 
that we're 100% GNU/Linux here. I haven't booted Windows for work since 
before the time Windows XP came out (around 2001). The only time I get 
to "work" on Windows is usually to retrieve data before moving it to 
CentOS. As far as external hard disks are concerned, they're all ext3 
here. Whenever the odd non-Linux user has to exchange data with Linux 
here, he or she has to use a Samba share.

So I admit my point of view is somewhat biased :o)

Cheers,

Niki
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Re: [CentOS] # chkconfig: kill at run level 3

2010-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Michael D. Berger
 wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 10:50:53 -0500, Robert Spangler wrote:
>
>> On Friday 03 December 2010 19:30, Michael D. Berger wrote:
>>
> [...]
>>
>> Check /etc/rc.d/rc6.d and insure that you have K??yourscriptname in
>> there.  It looks like your script demon was setup to be run but was
>> never properly setup to be shut down.  When shutting down the system the
>> system is switched to run level 6.
>
> The correct K link does appear in /etc/rc.d/rc6.d .  I wrote a "stop"
> script that stops my daemon, does sleep 5, and then calls shutdown
> (or reboot).  I don't like this kluge, but it does work.  Could it
> be that my daemon stop procedure is too slow or complex for
> shutdown?  The TERM code does send stop messages to and join
> several threads, which in turn do the same to nested threads. Each
> thread does some stop logging, among other things.
>
> Mike.

"Taking too long" is unlikely. Running through the shutdown init
scripts is normally a serial operation, not a parallel one.

It could be that your shutdown script is simply incomplete, and fails
to *finish* stopping a process before proceeding to the next one. If
you wait on each threed to stop, surveying it for status and killing
it whan an ax only if necessary, then you may have a better fighting
chance of getting it shut down gracefully.

I've had some recent work with init scripts that weren't written as
init scripts, that get confused and hang ridiculously awaiting further
input. Issuing yet another "shutdown" or "reboot" command at that
point will simply re-run your shutdown procedures, especially this
shutdown script: that way can lie madness if your "threads" aren't
shut down gracefully.

It sounds like you need more thorough logging of what your shutdown
script does.
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