Re: [CentOS] mouse scroll-wheel side-click configuration?

2011-06-07 Thread fred smith

On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:45:02PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
> > Still googling, no joy so far (though I'm not giving up yet).
> > 
> > Can anyone point me to a resource that may help me figure out how to
> > make the side-clicks of the scroll wheel on a logitech mouse do something
> > useful?
> > 
> > thanks!
> > 
> Can you elaborate in what setting? GNOME? CentOS 5.x? Quoting original 
> post would be nice. I have almost 3680 mails from several months, but 
> haven't seen this one.
> 
> Ljubomir
> ___

Hi Ljubomir! This was the original posting. I was just saying that
I'm not asking here merely because I'm too lazy to look on my own...

I've got this logitech v220 notebook mouse, and the scroll wheel
can be clicked left or right as well as rotated or clicked by
pressing down.

"normal" usage (i.e., left click, right click, middle click, and
rotation of scroll wheel) works fine.

Using xev I don't see anything reported for the side-click of the scroll
wheel, so it may be that without some action by a driver, that the
side-clicks aren't enabled. I suspect that Logitech's windoze driver
tweaks the mouse in some way that "turns on" the additional actions of
pressing the wheel to the left or right.

The package lists LInux (2.6 kernel) as a supported OS, but of course
they provide only windows/mac drivers for it, and the web site explicitly
lists Linux as not supported. Talk about mixed messages.

It's not a big deal, was just wondering if there was a way to recognize
those clicks, in case there was something useful to be done with them.

I've tried tweaking xorg.conf to increase number of buttons and changing
z-axis from "4 5" to "6 7" but that stops the scroll wheel from working
at all, so I put it back.

Fred
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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 4:31 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
>
> It does appear that it is indeed a tool-chain issue, but be that as it
> may the problem remains: reading these posts is annoying and the poster
> should attempt to fix it.  I am not familiar with the tools in question,
> so I can't possibly advise on how to correct this issue; perhaps other
> list members can assist this person in getting things fixed.
>
> You can not possibly tell me that you like reading text with this type
> of spacing.  While it is true that I have the ability of filtering these
> into oblivion I should not have to take such steps.

I don't, but thunderbird displays the original with a reasonable layout 
so it is fairly clear that a space was typed in the right places.  But, 
I have no idea why they aren't in the plain text version - whether the 
sender's mailer is just broken or they were munged in some subsequent 
character set conversion as mailing lists are prone to do.  In any case, 
tolerance seems like the right approach.

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Re: [CentOS] mouse scroll-wheel side-click configuration?

2011-06-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
fred smith wrote:
> Still googling, no joy so far (though I'm not giving up yet).
> 
> Can anyone point me to a resource that may help me figure out how to
> make the side-clicks of the scroll wheel on a logitech mouse do something
> useful?
> 
> thanks!
> 
Can you elaborate in what setting? GNOME? CentOS 5.x? Quoting original 
post would be nice. I have almost 3680 mails from several months, but 
haven't seen this one.

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> b.j. mcclure wrote:
>>
 Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your
 IP address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it
 is, try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your
 browser, and point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web
 interface, and you can go from there.

>>> Or 192.168.1.254
>> Actually, the modem's web-page is at 192.168.1.254 ,
>> but I'm told I need a password to go further.
>> My password with my ISP did not work,
> 
> Nope. It may be the default setting password that the OEM assigns. Ask
> your ISP what the password is. For my old Westell, it was something like
> password, something dumb. I got in and changed it, of course. Resetting
> the original settings, including the password, was push a button.
> 
>> and strangely I was never asked for my username.
>> The only other information on the web-page
>> is the suggestion that I should run the CD.
> 
> Unless there's some firmware update on the CD, the only thing it would do
> is the Windows settings.
>> In fact I've gone back to my old modem,
>> as I have some pin-holes opened there.
> 
> 
> 
>mark
> 

National ADSL company uses Thompson ADSL modems with wireless with 
custom password for each unit, if I got that correctly. It is definitely
not OEM password. I guess they used different passwords to prevent 
others hacking into router via wireless.

And they use different password for actual PPPoE connection. First 
(Huawei) modems they used even lacked the option to change or even see 
PPPoE username and password.

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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:14:56PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 6/7/2011 1:59 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> >
> >> Heh... It's more of a culture barrier than you think.  The
> >> actual source
> >> of the message looked like: >> class="Apple-converted-space">  >> class="hps" title="Clique para mostrar
> >> traduções alternativas">  between words.  So he did hit
> >> the space bar and someone else's tools undid it.
> >
> > So the second request should be "Please post in plain text, not HTML."
> 
> That was an even stranger thing - it was multipart/mixed with a text 
> section but the text part didn't have the spaces.  So it is still 
> something in the tool set that either isn't working as expected or is 
> being mishandled along the way.

text/plain (quoted) component showed here with bad spacing.




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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>
> Please stop fretting about top posting.

http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16

"Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts" - specific section quoted
below:

2. Please do not top post to the mailing list when replying to a post.
   (See the Quoting Style link above, and use the Interleaved text method,
   deleting non-applicable text as required. If you need to reply to a
   message, and you do not need to post in interleaved mode, please bottom
   post instead of top posting.)


> So the second request should be "Please post in plain text, not HTML."

Message has a text/plain (quoted) component which is what I will see as
I use mutt.  While this may be in violation of guideline #1 of the above
named section of the listed URL it's not the underlying problem.
Whether composing natively in text/plain would have prevented this
formatting issue or not I do not know; gut hunch says no.

It does appear that it is indeed a tool-chain issue, but be that as it
may the problem remains: reading these posts is annoying and the poster
should attempt to fix it.  I am not familiar with the tools in question,
so I can't possibly advise on how to correct this issue; perhaps other
list members can assist this person in getting things fixed.

You can not possibly tell me that you like reading text with this type
of spacing.  While it is true that I have the ability of filtering these
into oblivion I should not have to take such steps.




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[CentOS] mouse scroll-wheel side-click configuration?

2011-06-07 Thread fred smith
Still googling, no joy so far (though I'm not giving up yet).

Can anyone point me to a resource that may help me figure out how to
make the side-clicks of the scroll wheel on a logitech mouse do something
useful?

thanks!

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  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
 will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
  it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
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[CentOS] daemon user can't acess file while nobody user can.

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
I have a server where /home is on a nfs. I installed an apache (my compile) 
server. By default, it runs as daemon. That user can't acces files in 
/home/*/public_html, while the nobody user can. So if I change my apache 
config, it now can.

/home is : drwxr-xr-x
/home/user is : drwxr-xr-x
/home/user/public_html is : drwxr-xr-x

selinux is disabled.

In the error log of apache I get :

(13)Permission denied: access to /~user/file.jpg denied

I changed the shell for the daemon user so I can diagnose a little bit more, 
and I cannot get into the user directory. When on a local drive, it's ok.

So why is that the daemon user cannot go into the user directory via nfs ? 

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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 2:27 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> I like the /media/$disk-label convention; no matter how many disks I may 
> have, removeable media will come up properly.

I do a lot of disk image cloning and swapping disks around among 
machines.  Does it handle getting duplicates in the same machine 
gracefully - or at least better than it used to when they first came up 
with partition labels and used them in fstab?

> And even though this is a typical server box with a typically anemic ATI Rage 
> XL, GUI performance, even with Firefox, isn't bad at all.  (Supermicro dual 
> Xeon board with multiple high-speed 64-bit PCI-X busses and slots; haven't 
> found a good low-profile 133MHz PCI-X VGA board yet).

I almost never sit at the console of a linux box - or at least the one 
where the programs are running, so I'm much more interested in 
freenx/NX, or remote X performance.  Or the ability of the GUI programs 
to work sensibly when running in a remote window.  And I don't think it 
is sensible if I start firefox remotely with 'ssh -Y' and it tells a 
currently running instance on a different display to open a new window 
there.

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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 02:45:32 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
> There's a lot of gunk that 
> assumes that the person logged into the console automatically owns some 
> of the devices - a concept that doesn't make much sense in the context 
> of a multiuser system that can handle concurrent users.  And I think 
> some of that is wired into the GUI parts.  I'd say you are better off 
> avoiding that and mounting/unmounting things the way you want.

That's one thing ConsoleKit and PolicyKit are for. of course, if those 
aren't already being deprecated

But I do use Linux at the desktop, daily, using KDE 4 for that matter, and it 
works marvelously.  I also have true multiuser GUI systems running; and I've 
found the tools that are in place to be reasonable, and further to work in a 
pretty intuitive fashion.  No dependence on absolute disk device names, etc. 

As an extreme example, on my EL6 testbed system, the boot drive is well, 
look for yourself:
[root@www ~]# mount
/dev/mapper/vg_www-lv_root on / type ext4 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,rootcontext="system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t:s0")
/dev/sdaa1 on /boot type ext4 (rw)
/dev/md127 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/dev/mapper/vg_bak2-lv_lobak on /opt/lobak type ext4 (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw)
/dev/sdg1 on /home/lowen type ext4 (rw)
[root@www ~]#

That's not a typo; /boot is on /dev/sdaa1 (two 'a's).  It changes from boot to 
boot, depending upon exact delays, disk spinup on the devices under /dev/md127, 
and LUN recognize delays on the Clariion (which depends on which path happens 
to get chosen by the multipather as well as how much load are on the Clariions 
right now).  Oh, and it depends on how temperamental the 3Ware 9550 is being 
today, since the boot drive is on a RAID5 of four disks on it.

The first plugged-in USB disk will get, right now at this moment, /dev/sdad.

I like the /media/$disk-label convention; no matter how many disks I may have, 
removeable media will come up properly.  What I haven't found out how to do is 
tell the system that two of the SATA ports on the SiI3124 controller (where the 
RAID1 two-drive /dev/md127 lives) are actually external and thus removeables

And even though this is a typical server box with a typically anemic ATI Rage 
XL, GUI performance, even with Firefox, isn't bad at all.  (Supermicro dual 
Xeon board with multiple high-speed 64-bit PCI-X busses and slots; haven't 
found a good low-profile 133MHz PCI-X VGA board yet).
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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 1:59 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
>
>> Heh... It's more of a culture barrier than you think.  The
>> actual source
>> of the message looked like:> class="Apple-converted-space"> > class="hps" title="Clique para mostrar
>> traduções alternativas">  between words.  So he did hit
>> the space bar and someone else's tools undid it.
>
> So the second request should be "Please post in plain text, not HTML."

That was an even stranger thing - it was multipart/mixed with a text 
section but the text part didn't have the spaces.  So it is still 
something in the tool set that either isn't working as expected or is 
being mishandled along the way.

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Re: [CentOS] [SPAM] ** Re: Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 02:07:41 PM Nicolas Ross wrote:
> By looking at the man page, distro-sync wouldn't re-install a package with 
> the same version. 

Right; if the NEVR is the same, it won't be reinstalled unless you apply the 
'distro-sync full' patch that is in yum 3.4.  Karanbir pointed to the patch a 
few days ago, and it might apply cleanly to yum 3.2.29 (EL6's version).  With 
that patch to yum, 'distro-sync full' will check the checksums and do a 
reinstall if the installed package's checksum doesn't match the repo.

In theory, changing the repo sources, removing the rhn-specific plugins and 
modules, reinstalling yum, patching yum for 'distro-sync full', then issuing 
'yum distro-sync full' should do a full in-place reinstall of all packages.

When C6 is out, I plan to do just that with my personal tesbed RHEL6 i386 
system (it's part of the reason I installed on that box to begin with; I always 
planned to run RHEL6 on another box later (I bought a subscription)).  But 
it will have to wait until C6 is out. Or if I wanted to go to SL6.
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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> On 6/7/2011 1:22 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:40:13PM -0300, Deivison Moraes wrote:
>>> Hello,I was able togeneratetheiso,butwhen I installreturnserror
>>> ¨exec of anaconta failed: No such file or directory¨
>>> 
>>> Anotherquestion, therevisortakesmy packagesconfiguredasthey were
>>> before,asI dothat?
>> 
>> 1)  Please stop top-posting on this mailing list.

Please stop fretting about top posting.

>> 2)  Learn to properly use a keyboard, specifically, the space-bar. 
>>  This isn't a question of a language or a culture barrier, nor
>>  is it one of a bad keyboard as it is evident that your
>>  space-bar does work to some extent.  Trying to read your posts
>>  on this list is enough to give someone a headache.  Please try
>> to be considerate of others. 
> 
> Heh... It's more of a culture barrier than you think.  The
> actual source
> of the message looked like: class="Apple-converted-space"> class="hps" title="Clique para mostrar
> traduções alternativas"> between words.  So he did hit
> the space bar and someone else's tools undid it.

So the second request should be "Please post in plain text, not HTML."


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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas Harold
On 6/7/2011 1:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> No. I was rung one day by a lady at my ISP (Eircom), who told me I
> had been chosen as a recipient of their new "Ultimate" system, which
> would increase my speed from 5Mb/s to 14Mb/s, at no extra cost!

Could be newer DSL technology, or could simply be some sort of caching
and compression system that you have to use Windows client software to
take advantage of it.  But it sounds like new DSL technology according 
to the press release and sales site.

http://pressroom.eircom.net/press_releases/article/eircom_launches_up_to_24mb_next_generation_broadband/

Digging through their FAQ site:

> Do I need to change any equipment or settings on my computer?
>
> No, you don't need to change anything. Your modem will pick up the
> new speed automatically. A very limited number of customers may be
> required to 'turn off' and 'turn on' their modem for the upgrade to
> take affect.

Maybe the Windows CD needs to install new firmware.

> How will I know that my line/broadband was upgraded?
>
> If you are an eligible customer eircom will send a letter to you in
> advance notifying you that you will be migrated to the Next
> Generation Broadband product in the near future.
>
> Alternatively, if you visit www.eircom.net/ngb and go to the: "How
> Can I Get it?" section. Then enter your eircom telephone number and
> account number and you will be informed if your broadband has been or
> is scheduled to be upgraded to a Next Generation Broadband product.

And maybe double-check that the line was actually upgraded?
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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 11:48 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:32:01 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> So knowing how lame NetworkManager in 5.x
>> is, I suggested viable solution for his particular problem, unmovable
>> headless CentOS 5.x
>
>> And thanks for NM cli commands, I might need it when my laptop goes C6.
>
> Which is why I mentioned them, as that is the direction upstream is going.  
> EL5 probably will never have many of the very nice amenities that EL6 has.
>
> But the whole NM thing isn't actually on the line of the OP's question; that 
> was about hotplugged USB drives.

A similar but worse situation most likely.  There's a lot of gunk that 
assumes that the person logged into the console automatically owns some 
of the devices - a concept that doesn't make much sense in the context 
of a multiuser system that can handle concurrent users.  And I think 
some of that is wired into the GUI parts.  I'd say you are better off 
avoiding that and mounting/unmounting things the way you want.

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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 1:22 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:40:13PM -0300, Deivison Moraes wrote:
>> Hello,I was able togeneratetheiso,butwhen I installreturnserror
>> ¨exec of anaconta failed: No such file or directory¨
>>
>> Anotherquestion, therevisortakesmy packagesconfiguredasthey were
>> before,asI dothat?
>
> 1)  Please stop top-posting on this mailing list.
>
> 2)  Learn to properly use a keyboard, specifically, the space-bar.  This
>  isn't a question of a language or a culture barrier, nor is it one
>  of a bad keyboard as it is evident that your space-bar does work to
>  some extent.  Trying to read your posts on this list is enough to
>  give someone a headache.  Please try to be considerate of others.

Heh... It's more of a culture barrier than you think.  The actual source 
of the message looked like:  
between words.  So he did hit the space bar and someone else's tools 
undid it.

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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread John R. Dennison
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:40:13PM -0300, Deivison Moraes wrote:
> Hello,I was able togeneratetheiso,butwhen I installreturnserror
> ¨exec of anaconta failed: No such file or directory¨
>
> Anotherquestion, therevisortakesmy packagesconfiguredasthey were
> before,asI dothat?

1)  Please stop top-posting on this mailing list.

2)  Learn to properly use a keyboard, specifically, the space-bar.  This
isn't a question of a language or a culture barrier, nor is it one
of a bad keyboard as it is evident that your space-bar does work to
some extent.  Trying to read your posts on this list is enough to
give someone a headache.  Please try to be considerate of others.





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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:30:18 AM Dvorkin, Asya wrote:
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:43:24 AM Nicolas Ross wrote:
>> >> I switch a RHEL machine in EL6 to scientific linux a while ago, and I
>> >> suppose it's the exact same thing for Centos.
>> > [snip process]
>
>> > You do realize that you didn't replace the RHEL binaries, right?
>
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/MigrationGuide
>
> While Phil's guide is a very good one for C5; however, the OP is asking
> about EL6, not 5.  EL5 doesn't have 'yum distro-sync' available; this is a
> seriously handy tool for this kind of migration.  EL6 does have 'yum
> distro-sync' available.
>
> There's a thread in the Scientific Linux Users mailing list on a similar
> topic; grep the archives for the subject "How to migrate yum installed on
> RHEL 6 to update from SL6 repository?" to get more information, especially
> on the need to replace all the upstream binary packages, not just the
> logos and the repository configs.

By looking at the man page, distro-sync wouldn't re-install a package with 
the same version. For exemple, on my rhel boxes, I have 
tzdata-2011g-1.el6.noarch installed, and on my sl6's one, I have 
tzdata-2011g-1.el6.noarch. It's the same exact version number. So the 
installed package wouldn't be re-installed.

You would need to do yum reinstall \* to properly re-install the package 
from the new repo (sl6 or c6 for instance). 

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> b.j. mcclure wrote:
>
>>> Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your
>>> IP address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it
>>> is, try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your
>>> browser, and point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web
>>> interface, and you can go from there.
>>>
>> Or 192.168.1.254
>
> Actually, the modem's web-page is at 192.168.1.254 ,
> but I'm told I need a password to go further.
> My password with my ISP did not work,

Nope. It may be the default setting password that the OEM assigns. Ask
your ISP what the password is. For my old Westell, it was something like
password, something dumb. I got in and changed it, of course. Resetting
the original settings, including the password, was push a button.

> and strangely I was never asked for my username.
> The only other information on the web-page
> is the suggestion that I should run the CD.

Unless there's some firmware update on the CD, the only thing it would do
is the Windows settings.
>
> In fact I've gone back to my old modem,
> as I have some pin-holes opened there.



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[CentOS] Installing rather than changing

2011-06-07 Thread John J. Boyer
After reading the replies to my message about changing from RHEL to 
CentOS I think it might be easier to install the latest version of 
CentOS from scratch. I can save my home directory and my e-mail setup. 
My access to the present system is by ssh. How can I download everything 
with ssh then start the install? Since I am blind, I may need sighted 
help during the actual install process. Is it possible to specify 
answers to the questions wich the install will ask beforehand?

Pardon the dumb questions. I want to get the process completed with as 
little interference to my software development work as possible.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 01:04:11 PM Timothy Murphy wrote:
> who told me I had been chosen as a recipient of their new "Ultimate" system,
> which would increase my speed from 5Mb/s to 14Mb/s,
> at no extra cost!

The speed increase is possible, for sure, as long as you're close enough to the 
DSLAM.  We have an 11Mb/s DSL option here, but it does require improved 
hardware (ADSL2+).

The modem wants a password for management; you'll need to google for the 
default modem password for that particular model to be able to start management 
without the CD.  Using the modem manufacturer's CD allows an easy setup for 
Windows, typically, and walks you through the install, but it's very rarely 
actually required, unless it does have a firmware update on it.
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
David Bunt wrote:

> Try a minimal install. That won't hit the 2nd dvd.

Actually no installation I have done
(including one with practically everything chosen)
has ever required the 2nd DVD. 

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
b.j. mcclure wrote:

>> Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your IP
>> address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it is,
>> try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your browser,
>> and point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web interface,
>> and you can go from there.
>> 
>>  mark
> Or 192.168.1.254

Actually, the modem's web-page is at 192.168.1.254 ,
but I'm told I need a password to go further.
My password with my ISP did not work,
and strangely I was never asked for my username.
The only other information on the web-page
is the suggestion that I should run the CD.

In fact I've gone back to my old modem,
as I have some pin-holes opened there.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote:

>> The machine is running CentOS-5.6 .
>> The modem is running fine, but my speed has not been improved threefold,
>> as promised.
>> In fact the speed is identical to the previous modem, as far as I can
>> tell.
> 
> Do you know what kind of change this was supposed to be?

No. I was rung one day by a lady at my ISP (Eircom),
who told me I had been chosen as a recipient of their new "Ultimate" system,
which would increase my speed from 5Mb/s to 14Mb/s,
at no extra cost!
Apparently this was not available to any old customer;
I had been specially picked out for the privilege.
I can't think of any reason why I should be picked out,
except that I always pay my bills.

(I have been with them for ever, and remember being told by them long ago
that scientists had proved it was physically impossible
for traffic down a telephone line to exceed 300b/s .)

> If you are
> running DSL with PPOE it might have been a registry tweak for windows to
> reduce the MTU.  On Centos you can just put MTU= in your ifcfg-eth? file
> with the value you want (I've seen 1492 suggested for this).

It is PPPoE, I think.
I'll try changing the MTU sometime, and see if it has any effect.
Thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:32:01 PM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> So knowing how lame NetworkManager in 5.x 
> is, I suggested viable solution for his particular problem, unmovable 
> headless CentOS 5.x

> And thanks for NM cli commands, I might need it when my laptop goes C6.

Which is why I mentioned them, as that is the direction upstream is going.  EL5 
probably will never have many of the very nice amenities that EL6 has.

But the whole NM thing isn't actually on the line of the OP's question; that 
was about hotplugged USB drives.
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:59:52 AM Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 6/7/2011 10:18 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > The modem is running fine, but my speed has not been improved threefold,
> > as promised.
> > In fact the speed is identical to the previous modem, as far as I can tell.
> 
> Do you know what kind of change this was supposed to be? 

It might be a firmware update, or a download accelerator (which requires ISP 
cache support) installer.

Something like NetZero, that uses special compression between the cache 
provider and the consumer that makes things seem to load faster.  In which case 
you have to have Windows to run the client side of the compressed cache stream. 
 This also interacts with the browser cache, and actually resizes typically 
too-large images down, something like what a PDF creator would do for embedded 
images to go to the actual PDF dpi setting.
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Re: [CentOS] Revisor

2011-06-07 Thread Deivison Moraes


  
  
Hello, I was able
  to generate the iso, but when I
  install returns error
¨ exec
  of anaconta failed: No such file or directory¨

Another question,
  the revisor takes my packages configured as they were
  before, as I do that ?

Att.
Deivison 



Em 06-06-2011 14:01, Deivison Moraes escreveu:

  
  go

  to testing  ;)
  
  Em 06-06-2011 13:54, Patrick Lists escreveu:
  
On 06/06/2011 03:16 PM, Deivison Moraes wrote:


  Myintentionis tobuildacustom platformCentOS, turnedtothephoneso we
choseCentOS.actuallyin thefedorais more likelytowork?


Hope I understand you correctly. You can use Revisor on Fedora 14 or 15 
and can then build custom CentOS media. More information about Revisor 
is here: https://fedorahosted.org/revisor/wiki/Introduction#Introduction

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:30:18 AM Dvorkin, Asya wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:43:24 AM Nicolas Ross wrote:
> >> I switch a RHEL machine in EL6 to scientific linux a while ago, and I 
> >> suppose it's the exact same thing for Centos.
> > [snip process]

> > You do realize that you didn't replace the RHEL binaries, right? 

> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/MigrationGuide

While Phil's guide is a very good one for C5; however, the OP is asking about 
EL6, not 5.  EL5 doesn't have 'yum distro-sync' available; this is a seriously 
handy tool for this kind of migration.  EL6 does have 'yum distro-sync' 
available.

There's a thread in the Scientific Linux Users mailing list on a similar topic; 
grep the archives for the subject "How to migrate yum installed on RHEL 6 to 
update from SL6 repository?" to get more information, especially on the need to 
replace all the upstream binary packages, not just the logos and the repository 
configs.  
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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:42:48 AM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> "system-network-config-cmd -p WirelessHome -a" will select existing 
>> profile WirelessHome and activate it. It's not NetworkManager but 
>> "network" service.
> 
>> "iwlist ath0 scanning will list all available AP's in range so you can 
>> choose ESSID for system-config-network config screen (it should work in 
>> console mode.
> 
> While I somewhat understand the reticence of some folks to try to understand 
> NetworkManager, the fact of the matter is that that is upstream's preferred 
> networking daemon these days (EL6 days, that is).  The older method will 
> become less and less supported as time goes on.  Not that I'm a 'fan' of 
> NetworkManager; I'm just a pragmatist in this regard: it's the preferred, 
> supported, way to do things in that release, so might as well learn it, at 
> least for those cases where it works well.  It's not that hard to learn how 
> to use nmcli to do both of those operations as listed above.
> 
> The second operation, for instance, is:
> nmcli dev wifi
> which will list the AP's on all wifi interfaces.
> 
> To get a list of connections:
> nmcli con list
> 
> To bring a connection up:
> nmcli con $conid up
> 
> Configuring the connections is a different story; on Fedora at least there is 
> cnetworkmanager, and it appears to not yet be in EPEL.  So getting the 
> connections configured first seems to be a little more difficult.
> 
> But not having tried itI can't intelligently comment.
> 
> According to the documentation at least the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts 
> directory is still there, and still usable with manual editing.

I needed to reactivate my Atheros radio after hibernate on CentOS 5.x, 
and NetworkManager on 5.x was not able to do that,so I had to use 
Network service and in cli to be able to script it.

I used NetworkManager in RHEL 6 Beta1 (recompiled it to work) but never 
needed it in cli mode.

OP stated that he is *running* headless *server*, so extrapolation gave 
me: CentOS 5.x (already running) and non movable system for one wireless 
connection (headless server). So knowing how lame NetworkManager in 5.x 
is, I suggested viable solution for his particular problem, unmovable 
headless CentOS 5.x

And thanks for NM cli commands, I might need it when my laptop goes C6.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas Harold
On 6/7/2011 11:22 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your IP
> address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it is,
> try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your browser, and
> point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web interface, and
> you can go from there.
>

Or, assuming that it hands out a DHCP address with a default gateway 
(and the modem/NAT unit is acting as the default gateway):

a) Look for the default route (indicated as the line starting with 
0.0.0.0 for IPv4)

# route -n
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1   0.0.0.0 UG

b) Look at the dhclient.leases file.  This can be hit or miss, depending 
on whether you can find the proper section.  Other distros put it in a 
slightly different location.

/var/lib/dhclient/dhclient.leases
lease {
   interface "eth1";
   fixed-address 192.168.1.186;
   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
   option routers 192.168.1.1;
   option dhcp-lease-time 3600;
   option dhcp-message-type 5;
   option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
   option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.1;
   option domain-name "lan.example.org";
   renew 3 2009/4/8 11:57:39;
   rebind 3 2009/4/8 12:21:03;
   expire 3 2009/4/8 12:28:33;
}

c) Or the "ip" command.

$ ip route list
default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0  proto static

(Guessing about IP addresses gets harder in a few years once IPv6 
finally goes mainstream.)
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/7/2011 10:18 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> The machine is running CentOS-5.6 .
> The modem is running fine, but my speed has not been improved threefold,
> as promised.
> In fact the speed is identical to the previous modem, as far as I can tell.

Do you know what kind of change this was supposed to be?  If you are 
running DSL with PPOE it might have been a registry tweak for windows to 
reduce the MTU.  On Centos you can just put MTU= in your ifcfg-eth? file 
with the value you want (I've seen 1492 suggested for this).  If it is a 
cablemodem it doesn't make much sense to need to do anything under windows.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread b.j. mcclure

On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:22 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> 
> >>> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
> >>> but I daren't ask about that here ...
> >>> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
> >>> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
> >>> to setup the modem he has given me.
> >>
> >> ?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
> >> didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
> >> Verizon.
> >
> > The modem is a ZyXEL P-660HW-T1 WiFi modem/router (made in China).
> > It works fine, but my speed is not 3 times what it was before!
> > My ISP (Eircom) claims I have to run the configuration utility
> > on the Windows CD to get "up to speed".
> > I doubt if this is true, but I guess I ought to try it.
> 
> It is *not* true. The only thing that I can imagine that software doing is
> setting it up for Windows, and Windows only.
> 
> Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your IP
> address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it is,
> try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your browser, and
> point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web interface, and
> you can go from there.
> 
>  mark
Or 192.168.1.254
B.J.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

>>> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
>>> but I daren't ask about that here ...
>>> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
>>> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
>>> to setup the modem he has given me.
>>
>> ?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
>> didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
>> Verizon.
>
> The modem is a ZyXEL P-660HW-T1 WiFi modem/router (made in China).
> It works fine, but my speed is not 3 times what it was before!
> My ISP (Eircom) claims I have to run the configuration utility
> on the Windows CD to get "up to speed".
> I doubt if this is true, but I guess I ought to try it.

It is *not* true. The only thing that I can imagine that software doing is
setting it up for Windows, and Windows only.

Right, I just looked it up, and I see it's an ADSL modem. Look at your IP
address, and I'll bet you're 192.168.0.x, or 192.168.1.x. Whatever it is,
try pinging 192.168.[0 or 1].1. Whichever it is, pull up your browser, and
point it to that IP, and you should be at the modem's web interface, and
you can go from there.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

> Reading this, I'm thinking still more about the bigger picture, there. I
> didn't see the start of this thread - is this a home system? If so, using
> WinDo$e is pointless, if you're running Linux, unless you're running Linux
> in a VM under WinDoze.

The machine is running CentOS-5.6 .
The modem is running fine, but my speed has not been improved threefold,
as promised.
In fact the speed is identical to the previous modem, as far as I can tell.

I find a Windows dual-boot quite useful on many occasions,
eg if some card or other device does not work under Linux it is worth seeing 
if it works under Windows.

Also, if I have to call my ISP (I did once, when the line outside 
was damaged in a storm), it is more or less obligatory to be running Windows
during the visit.

I've been running Unix for 30 years, having graduated to Linux from Minix.
I guess my philosophy is closer to Linus Torvalds than Richard Stallman.


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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

> You could ask someone to bring their Windowz laptop, set it up and you
> are done.

Actually I always leave or install a small Windows partition
on my Linux machines.
I find that I occasionally need them, eg when updating firmware.

I don't have the religious objections many Linux users have.
As Henry IV said, "Paris is worth a mass".

> And most xDSL modems have nice web GUI, CD's are mostly used as
> idiot-proof measure with nice colored setup program.

In this case, when I go to the modem web-page (192.168.1.254)
it asks me to insert the CD "for further information".

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

>> I suppose there could be something relevant on the 2nd DVD,
>> although the first has been sufficient to install in 3 other ways:
>> 1) via HTTP from another machine on my home LAN;
>> 2) after copying the DVD-1of2 to a USB stick; and
>> 3) it was also sufficient on a machine with a DVD drive.
>> (The machine I was trying the hard disk install on-
>> an HP MicroServer - has no DVD drive.)
> 
> You could put everything on an 8G USB key.

As I mentioned, I had already installed CentOS on a USB key,
using just the first DVD.
I was really just experimenting with a hard disk installation.

>> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
>> but I daren't ask about that here ...
>> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
>> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
>> to setup the modem he has given me.
> 
> ?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
> didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
> Verizon.

The modem is a ZyXEL P-660HW-T1 WiFi modem/router (made in China).
It works fine, but my speed is not 3 times what it was before!
My ISP (Eircom) claims I have to run the configuration utility
on the Windows CD to get "up to speed".
I doubt if this is true, but I guess I ought to try it.



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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Dvorkin, Asya

On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:43:24 AM Nicolas Ross wrote:
>> I switch a RHEL machine in EL6 to scientific linux a while ago, and I 
>> suppose it's the exact same thing for Centos.
> [snip process]
> 
> You do realize that you didn't replace the RHEL binaries, right?  To 
> completely switch you need to replace all the binaries with the equivalent 
> ones from either SL6 or C6 (when it's released).  Not just the logos; there 
> are other changes (kernel signing, for instance).  That's what 'yum 
> distro-sync full' would do (once you've patched it in).
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Jussi Hirvi wrote:

> On 7.6.2011 1.19, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> But I'm not sure what "image #2" is? Or where it should be put?
>>
> images/stage2.img ??

I assumed that was what was meant,
and put copies of this file everywhere I could think of:
in the same place as the DVD, in an images directory there,
on the /boot partition, etc.
But none of them satsified the installer.

I thought it slightly silly that the installer does not say
exactly what file it is looking for
(and where it expected to find it).

In my experience this is not uncommon in Linux programs;
you are told that something is missing,
but precisely what is left to the imagination.
Presumably the program must know exactly what it is looking for,
so I don't understand why the information cannot be passed on.

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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:42:48 AM Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> "system-network-config-cmd -p WirelessHome -a" will select existing 
> profile WirelessHome and activate it. It's not NetworkManager but 
> "network" service.

> "iwlist ath0 scanning will list all available AP's in range so you can 
> choose ESSID for system-config-network config screen (it should work in 
> console mode.

While I somewhat understand the reticence of some folks to try to understand 
NetworkManager, the fact of the matter is that that is upstream's preferred 
networking daemon these days (EL6 days, that is).  The older method will become 
less and less supported as time goes on.  Not that I'm a 'fan' of 
NetworkManager; I'm just a pragmatist in this regard: it's the preferred, 
supported, way to do things in that release, so might as well learn it, at 
least for those cases where it works well.  It's not that hard to learn how to 
use nmcli to do both of those operations as listed above.

The second operation, for instance, is:
nmcli dev wifi
which will list the AP's on all wifi interfaces.

To get a list of connections:
nmcli con list

To bring a connection up:
nmcli con $conid up

Configuring the connections is a different story; on Fedora at least there is 
cnetworkmanager, and it appears to not yet be in EPEL.  So getting the 
connections configured first seems to be a little more difficult.

But not having tried itI can't intelligently comment.

According to the documentation at least the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts 
directory is still there, and still usable with manual editing.
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread David Bunt
> I guess that, as pointed out, this could be something on the 2nd DVD.
>

Try a minimal install. That won't hit the 2nd dvd.

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Brunner, Brian T. wrote:

>>> Did you check the debug consoles (alt-Fx)?
>> 
>> I'm not sure what this is.
> 
> There are several consoles available during install and boot.
> If you hit Alt+F1, you'll see the "regular" install/boot text.
> If you hit Alt+F2, you'll see debug outputs of portions of the
> install/boot process.

Thanks.
Actually I did know about these, though I've never used them.
I misunderstood the poster; I thought he/she was pointing to a file
that I should have downloaded.

In fact there was a Debug button to press when the process failed.
I looked at the output of this, but it didn't really help.
It seemed to say that the installation was looking for
a file in /dev/sdb7//ext2/ where /dev/sdb7 was the device holding the DVD.

I guess that, as pointed out, this could be something on the 2nd DVD.

On the other hand, I googled for the error message,
and it seemed several others had had the same problem.
That was why I asked if anyone had actually succeeded
in installing CentOS-5.6 from the hard disk.

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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 09:43:24 AM Nicolas Ross wrote:
> I switch a RHEL machine in EL6 to scientific linux a while ago, and I 
> suppose it's the exact same thing for Centos.
[snip process]

You do realize that you didn't replace the RHEL binaries, right?  To completely 
switch you need to replace all the binaries with the equivalent ones from 
either SL6 or C6 (when it's released).  Not just the logos; there are other 
changes (kernel signing, for instance).  That's what 'yum distro-sync full' 
would do (once you've patched it in).
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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
>I have a RHEL system and I'm thinking of changing to CentOW. How can
> this be done most easily. It is important that the e-mail setup not be
> disturbed, since it was crafted to work with an  IP that requires
> authentication.

I switch a RHEL machine in EL6 to scientific linux a while ago, and I 
suppose it's the exact same thing for Centos.

Note this applies to my x64 machine, if you're in i686, you'll just have to 
change the distrio/package name.

Here's what I did :

1. Harvest the sl-release-6.0-6.0.1.x86_64.rpm and 
redhat-logos-60.0.14-1.sl6.1.noarch.rpm from the repository.

2. Remove unneeded packages :

rpm -e rhnlib rhn-client-tools rhn-setup yum-rhn-plugin rhn-check rhnsd 
redhat-indexhtml redhat-lsb

Remove old packages and replice it with the one you downloaded :

rpm -e --nodeps redhat-release-server-6Server
rpm -hiv sl-release-6.0-6.0.1.x86_64.rpm

rpm -e --nodeps redhat-logos
rpm -hiv redhat-logos-60.0.14-1.sl6.1.noarch.rpm 

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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 06/06/11 7:31 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
>> think that's a feature of a GUI-based system.
> 
> indeed, this is a ongoing peeve of mine with linux.getting wireless 
> networking functioning without those GUI helpers is a real pain too.
> 
> this stuff should all be implemented in underlying daemons, with both 
> text and GUI control surfaces.
> 
> 
> 
"system-network-config-cmd -p WirelessHome -a" will select existing 
profile WirelessHome and activate it. It's not NetworkManager but 
"network" service.

"iwlist ath0 scanning will list all available AP's in range so you can 
choose ESSID for system-config-network config screen (it should work in 
console mode.

Ljubomir)
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread m . roth
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
>>> but I daren't ask about that here ...
>>> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
>>> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
>>> to setup the modem he has given me.
>>
>> ?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
>> didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
>> Verizon.
>
> You could ask someone to bring their Windowz laptop, set it up and you
> are done. One you set it up like they want, you are not going to need
> that CD again, at least for a while.
>
> And most xDSL modems have nice web GUI, CD's are mostly used as
> idiot-proof measure with nice colored setup program.

Reading this, I'm thinking still more about the bigger picture, there. I
didn't see the start of this thread - is this a home system? If so, using
WinDo$e is pointless, if you're running Linux, unless you're running Linux
in a VM under WinDoze. Lessee, a quick google finds me this:
.

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
>> but I daren't ask about that here ...
>> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
>> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
>> to setup the modem he has given me.
> 
> ?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
> didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
> Verizon.
> 
>  mark

You could ask someone to bring their Windowz laptop, set it up and you 
are done. One you set it up like they want, you are not going to need 
that CD again, at least for a while.

And most xDSL modems have nice web GUI, CD's are mostly used as 
idiot-proof measure with nice colored setup program.

Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] bind-libs - key problem

2011-06-07 Thread Tom Brown
On 6 June 2011 22:17, Tom Brown  wrote:
> Does anyone else notice anything wrong with the bind-libs package and its key?
>
> bind-libs-9.3.6-16.P1.el5.i386.rpm
>
>                        | 862 kB     00:00
> warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 37017186
>
>
> Public key for bind-utils-9.3.6-16.P1.el5.x86_64.rpm is not installed
>
> thanks

pebkac - sorted now
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
>
>> From: Timothy Murphy 
>>
>  I tried (several times) installing CentOS-5.6 from a hard disk,
>  and each time it failed after installing all the rpms,
>  with the warning "The installation has tried to mount image #2,
>  but cannot find it on the hard drive."
>>> md5sum -c md5sum.txt.asc
>>> CentOS-5.6-x86_64-bin-DVD-1of2.iso: OK
>>
>> The "image #2"... what about 2of2?
>
> I suppose there could be something relevant on the 2nd DVD,
> although the first has been sufficient to install in 3 other ways:
> 1) via HTTP from another machine on my home LAN;
> 2) after copying the DVD-1of2 to a USB stick; and
> 3) it was also sufficient on a machine with a DVD drive.
> (The machine I was trying the hard disk install on-
> an HP MicroServer - has no DVD drive.)

You could put everything on an 8G USB key.

> Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
> but I daren't ask about that here ...
> I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
> of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
> to setup the modem he has given me.

?? What kind of modem? Linux handles almost everything. Certainly, I
didn't need to install WinDoze to work with the DSL modem I got from
Verizon.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 7.6.2011 1.19, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> But I'm not sure what "image #2" is? Or where it should be put?
>
images/stage2.img ??

  -Jussi
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Re: [CentOS] ftp problem?

2011-06-07 Thread hadi motamedi
On 6/6/11, John R Pierce  wrote:
> On 06/06/11 11:47 PM, Juergen Gotteswinter wrote:
>> tftp != ftp
>>
>> you probably want to install vsftpd
>
> or better, use winscp from windows.
>
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Thank you very much for your reply. The best solution to my case was
using winscp.
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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:38:12 AM John R Pierce wrote:
> On 06/06/11 7:31 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> > think that's a feature of a GUI-based system.
> 
> indeed, this is a ongoing peeve of mine with linux.getting wireless 
> networking functioning without those GUI helpers is a real pain too.
> 
> this stuff should all be implemented in underlying daemons, with both 
> text and GUI control surfaces.

NetworkManager has text utilities, at least in EL6. (the nmcli applet, part of 
the base NetworkManager package).  How well it works I don't know, haven't 
tried.

But GUI isn't a dirty word.  While it's nice to do things CLI only, and it's 
definitely conserving of bandwidth, there are uses for the GUI that the CLI 
cannot do easily.

And vice-versa.

Since it is an open-source system, John, you know that for it to get 
implemented someone has to have that itch to scratch. and the place to 
scratch that itch is in Fedora Upstream EL has other goals, and things do 
get implemented due to paying customer request.  Sometimes even due to request 
from a non-customer.

Apparently the 'CLI can control everything the GUI can' isn't an itch anyone is 
currently scratching (unless that's one of the goals behind systemd 
although I think the opposite goal is the case there, making the system much 
more GUI-drivable at all levels).
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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 07:40:26 AM Kwan Lowe wrote:
> Not sure if this will help, but I went the other way from CentOS to
> RedHat by grabbing a list of packages with "rpm -qa", cleaning up the
> package names a bit, installing a base RedHat based on the same update
> level, then "yum update" or "yum install"ing from the list of
> packages. Next I diffed the configuration directories and manually
> moved the changed files. Finally just backed up/restored the database
> and application LVMs (dd/gzip the entire partition).

Whee, that's a lot of work.  With EL6 you have 'yum distro-sync' at your beckon 
call; a patch to add a 'distro-sync full' exists that goes as far as checking 
checksums, which probably has a greater chance of working correctly.

On an EL6 it should be as simple as changing the repositories and issuing yum 
distro-sync (with some rhn-specific steps depending on the direction of the 
cross-grade, though).  But I say 'should' for a reason, as I've not tried.  
Yet.  I likely will try this once C6 is out, since I have a 32-bit system to 
cross-grade (want to use the subscription entitlement on a different machine).
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
> 
>> Did you check the debug consoles (alt-Fx)?
> 
> I'm not sure what this is.

There are several consoles available during install and boot.
If you hit Alt+F1, you'll see the "regular" install/boot text.
If you hit Alt+F2, you'll see debug outputs of portions of the
install/boot process.

Alt+F3 gives you another console from which you can e.g. run various
tools (dmesg, ps, df, fsck, etc).
John Doe (not his real name) suggested looking at these other consoles
to see what had been printed out during install/boot.


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Re: [CentOS] Grep: show me this line and the next N lines?

2011-06-07 Thread Jon Detert


- Original Message -
From: "Dotan Cohen" 
To: "CentOS mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:20:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Grep: show me this line and the next N lines?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 05:26, Kenneth Porter  wrote:
> --On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:08 AM +0300 Dotan Cohen 
> wrote:
>
>> Can grep show the matching lines and the next N lines after a match?

grep -A N 

see http://linux.die.net/man/1/grep
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
John Doe wrote:

> From: Timothy Murphy 
> 
  I tried (several times) installing CentOS-5.6 from a hard disk,
  and each time it failed after installing all the rpms,
  with the warning "The installation has tried to mount image #2,
  but cannot find it on the hard drive."
>> md5sum -c md5sum.txt.asc
>> CentOS-5.6-x86_64-bin-DVD-1of2.iso: OK
> 
> The "image #2"... what about 2of2?

I suppose there could be something relevant on the 2nd DVD,
although the first has been sufficient to install in 3 other ways:
1) via HTTP from another machine on my home LAN;
2) after copying the DVD-1of2 to a USB stick; and
3) it was also sufficient on a machine with a DVD drive.
(The machine I was trying the hard disk install on-
an HP MicroServer - has no DVD drive.)

> Did you check the debug consoles (alt-Fx)?

I'm not sure what this is.
I copied everything in isolinux and images on the DVD
in several places.

Now I have to work out how to install Windows on the machine,
but I daren't ask about that here ...
I need it because my ISP claims to have tripled the speed
of my supply, but says I have to run a Windows CD
to setup the modem he has given me.



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Re: [CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:55 AM, John J. Boyer
 wrote:
> I have a RHEL system and I'm thinking of changing to CentOW. How can
> this be done most easily. It is important that the e-mail setup not be
> disturbed, since it was crafted to work with an  IP that requires
> authentication.
>

Not sure if this will help, but I went the other way from CentOS to
RedHat by grabbing a list of packages with "rpm -qa", cleaning up the
package names a bit, installing a base RedHat based on the same update
level, then "yum update" or "yum install"ing from the list of
packages. Next I diffed the configuration directories and manually
moved the changed files. Finally just backed up/restored the database
and application LVMs (dd/gzip the entire partition).
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[CentOS] Changing from RHEL to CentOS

2011-06-07 Thread John J. Boyer
I have a RHEL system and I'm thinking of changing to CentOW. How can 
this be done most easily. It is important that the e-mail setup not be 
disturbed, since it was crafted to work with an  IP that requires 
authentication.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] regex question

2011-06-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Dunno but Google 'sed only first match' gives some answers...

I resorted to just using a  perl one liner. It wasn't as straight forward as 
that. Using
sed's {p;q;} syntax with the pattern provides the functionality, but it was the 
capture
group only I was interested, and not the whole line which I couldn't make work 
with
those commands.

Perl was simpler, don't know why I didn't think of that initially.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure

2011-06-07 Thread John Doe
From: Timothy Murphy 

>>>  I tried (several times) installing CentOS-5.6 from a hard disk,
>>>  and each time it failed after installing all the rpms,
>>>  with the warning "The installation has tried to mount image #2,
>>>  but cannot find it on the hard drive."
>     md5sum -c md5sum.txt.asc    
>     CentOS-5.6-x86_64-bin-DVD-1of2.iso: OK

The "image #2"... what about 2of2?
 Did you check the debug consoles (alt-Fx)?

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Re: [CentOS] regex question

2011-06-07 Thread John Doe
From: Joseph L. Casale 

> I am trying to extract a pattern from a downloaded html file. I only want the 
> first match

Dunno but Google 'sed only first match' gives some answers...

JD
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Re: [CentOS] increase harddisk diskspace Failed to suspend LogVol00

2011-06-07 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Thursday, June 02, 2011 08:34:26 PM Drew wrote:
> Have you also unmounted the filesystem on LogVol00?

There is no need to unmount the filesystem when increasing the size of the 
underlying lv. In fact you can even grow the filesystem inside the lv 
afterwards without unmounting it (resize2fs).

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Re: [CentOS] text-mode system and /media

2011-06-07 Thread Benjamin Hackl
I'd recommend automount. I think it is installed by default.

Have a look at /etc/auto.misc
Just add an entry like

foobar  -mountoptions   :/dev/disk/by-label/foobar

which would mount your device as /misc/foobar
Also check /etc/auto.master and man {autofs,automount,auto.master}

Don't forget to
chkconfig autofs on

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Re: [CentOS] ftp problem?

2011-06-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:23:08 -0700
hadi motamedi wrote:

> I am trying on my Windows machine command prompt like the following:
> C:\ftp 172.18.128.1
> But it is not successful.

tftp is NOT a ftp daemon.  Despite the fact that it has ftp as part of its
name, it doesn't do what you want to do.  It's the wrong tool for
the job.

You have to install and set up a ftp service on your server.  Juergen's
recommendation was for vsftpd.  Install that and set it up.

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Re: [CentOS] ftp problem?

2011-06-07 Thread hadi motamedi
On 6/6/11, Juergen Gotteswinter  wrote:
> tftp != ftp
>
> you probably want to install vsftpd
>
> Am 07.06.11 08:43, schrieb hadi motamedi:
>> Dear All
>> I cannot ftp to my centos server from MS  Windows machine ,but ping
>> and telnet are ok. I checked as the following :
>> #chkconfig tftp on
>> #setup
>> After enabling tftp service, still the ftp is not ok but ping&  telnet
>> are ok. Can you please help me?
>> Thank you
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I am trying on my Windows machine command prompt like the following:
C:\ftp 172.18.128.1
But it is not successful.
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