Re: [CentOS-es] No se ejecuta Flash-player ni Java...para ver aplicaciones en la www
El 23/08/11, Ricardo R Escartin Montoya ricardoescar...@yahoo.com.mx escribió: No se ejecuta Flash-player ni Java...para ver aplicaciones en la www Y a q'e crees que se deba a que no puedes ver nada de eso?, no ser'a que tienes que a;adirle algunas cosas a centos?, no es magico, solo te hara caso cuando tu le pongas algunas cosas para ver lo que quieres, supongo que usa centos Porque no vas a la pagina de flash de adobe y te descargas el rpm y le das un rpm -ivh? lo intentaste?, y para java buscaste en los repos la version libre de java?, creo que con eso deber'ias poder ver lo que quieres..., saludos..., leer e intentar, cuando ya no puedas pregunta por ayuda... Por ejemplo no puedo ver el sitio www.movistar.com.mx saludos ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Edguit@r http://cybernautape.blogspot.com ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] No se ejecuta Flash-player ni Java...para veraplicaciones en la www
Hay q instalar los restricted-packach (creo q se escribe asi) que son los plug inns para flash, java, y algunas otras cosas --Mensaje original-- De: Edg@r Rodolfo Remitente: centos-es-boun...@centos.org Para: centos-es@centos.org Responder a: centos-es@centos.org Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] No se ejecuta Flash-player ni Java...para veraplicaciones en la www Enviado: 24 ago, 2011 8:55 AM El 23/08/11, Ricardo R Escartin Montoya ricardoescar...@yahoo.com.mx escribió: No se ejecuta Flash-player ni Java...para ver aplicaciones en la www Y a q'e crees que se deba a que no puedes ver nada de eso?, no ser'a que tienes que a;adirle algunas cosas a centos?, no es magico, solo te hara caso cuando tu le pongas algunas cosas para ver lo que quieres, supongo que usa centos Porque no vas a la pagina de flash de adobe y te descargas el rpm y le das un rpm -ivh? lo intentaste?, y para java buscaste en los repos la version libre de java?, creo que con eso deber'ias poder ver lo que quieres..., saludos..., leer e intentar, cuando ya no puedas pregunta por ayuda... Por ejemplo no puedo ver el sitio www.movistar.com.mx saludos ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Edguit@r http://cybernautape.blogspot.com ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es Enviado desde mi Blackberry® 3G de Iusacell. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
Just noticed that our new server has a newer 80+ efficiency 865W PSU with PFC. So apparenty our existing 1500VA (865W) APC Back-UPS is not safe to use anymore. We apparently need a pure sine wave UPS. http://nam-en.apc.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8883 I found an affordable 1500VA UPS by CyberPower, model CP1500PFCLCD, which has a pure sine wave output. Wondering if anyone has experience with CyberPower UPS's. Are they any good? Any problems with pwrstatd ? -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
--On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 AM +0100 Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net wrote: You need to do a little on-line reading about USB (the effective replacement for Centronics (parallel) ports and RS232/RS423 serial ports. Also about the PCI replacement called PCI-Express. I see USB as being on par more with PCI-E than RS232/Centronics. It's a general external expansion bus, but lacks bus-mastering. Compare to Firewire, which adds bus-mastering. So for bus-level interfaces, use PCI-E inside the box, and USB or Firewire outside the box. Ethernet and SATA interfaces then stack on top of PCI-E/USB/Firewire. (As does the older IDE now often referred to as PATA.) The lspci and lsusb command line utilities can be used to view the topology of the buses. (Is there a Linux GUI tool similar to Windows Device Manager in view-by-connection mode to graphically show the topology? I've found that view a good way to get one's head around how this stuff goes together.) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
--On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:57 PM -0700 John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: the x86_64 architecture has teh same basic instructions as x86_32, but with more registers which are also wider 64 bit registers. As someone who coded in assembler for PDP-11, PDP-10, 8086, and 68000, I have to report that more registers is a Very Good Thing. Just how many more registers do you get when going to 64-bit? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
Sorry to be mean. But there are things off-topic and there are things ooo-tooocc. And this one belongs in the second category. Really, please take this elsewhere. Thanks. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Not receiving root mail
In article 50117.213.157.4.156.1314117697.squir...@nimrod.dscd.de, Alexander Dalloz ad+li...@uni-x.org wrote: In article cajfu-f7ncz+iamxzg5rq0vzaelctbcncnfysyykaapxw5ce...@mail.gmail.com, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I removed sendmail - but it also removed clamav-milter. When I tried to re-install clamav-milter it would have pulled sendmail back in so I aborted. Advice? milters are specific to sendmail. clamav-milter is a linkage between ClamAV and sendmail, so you don't need it with postfix. If you want to use ClamAV, you will need to find out how to link it with postfix, but it won't be by using clamav-milter. Sorry Tony, that's not correct. Though the MILTER interface (Send_M_ail f_ILTER) originally was an enhancement in Sendmail, meanwhile since quite some time Postfix supports milter applications as well. http://www.postfix.org/MILTER_README.html So of course Postfix users can implement milter based solutions. And in contrast to an AMaViS setup a milter based binding of ClamAV is lightweight. OK, thanks, I stand corrected, and educated! Must admit I'm not very familiar with postfix - only ever tried to do some debugging on it for someone else. Of course, that begs the question of whether clamav-milter would work with postfix. If so, it should depend on (sendmail OR postfix). If not, perhaps it should be called clamav-milter-sendmail instead, with another package for clamav-milter-postfix. Cheers Tony -- Tony Mountifield Work: t...@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk Play: t...@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:38:30 PM Drew wrote: The older ISA (now called PATA = Parallel ATA) has been replaced by SATA (Serial ATA). SATA has 3 speeds. Most new disks are either SATA 2 or SATA 3 speed. IDE I assume you meant. :) ISA was the old bus PCI replaced. Yes, but, technically PATA is a souped-up ISA bus with address decode already done for all but the lower few bits. Old 16-bit ISA IDE cards were often referred to as paddleboards because the only thing on the card was a small address decoder/buffer chip and the rest of the lines went virtually straight through from the ISA bus to the drive. So saying ISA is only partially incorrect. :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/24/11 12:05 AM, Kenneth Porter wrote: As someone who coded in assembler for PDP-11, PDP-10, 8086, and 68000, I have to report that more registers is a Very Good Thing. Just how many more registers do you get when going to 64-bit? indeed, thats the main performance gain, other than the increased address space. in fact, for RISC architectures such as SPARC, Power, MIPS, where there were already sufficient registers, and for which the 64 bit extensions were virtually identical to the existing 32 bit base architecture, going to 64 bit code for most applications that dont need additional linear address space is actually a performance /penalty/ due to the increase in size of the code base for the longer offsets and addresses. On the x86_64, there are 16 64bit registers instead of the 8 16/32 bit of the 8086/386 instruction set architecture (of those 8 or 16, two are the dedicated stack pointer and base pointer registers, leaving really only 6 or 14 general purpose registers). -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/24/2011 01:59 AM John R Pierce wrote: On 08/23/11 9:21 PM, ken wrote: I haven't looked up and compared the lists of instructions on 32- vs. 64-bit CPUs, but generally the bigger processors have more, and more sophisticated, instructions. This means, e.g., that instead of taking 20 steps to do a calculation on a 32-bit CPU, it might be done in 5 steps on a 64-bit. except, this is almost entirely wrong. LOL -- War is a failure of the imagination. --William Blake ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote: I would like to upgrade my system to a 64 bit machine. I'd like to find a bare bones platform to build on. I'm not looking to spend a lot of money on this as it is a home system. I looked on the CentOS sponsor page but only saw hosting services. I haven't kept up with hardware in years so I'm dumber than dirt on what's out there. I would prefer a desktop so I can stack it. Don't think I need to do the Xeon as that would be overkill for a home user. This would be replacing my 'server' so I need PCI slots for an additional NIC and a 32 bit video capture card used for zoneminder. Not sure what PCI express is or if my cards would work in those slots. Yep, I'm running 8 yrs old machines, IBM NetVistas. :-( If all the jargon is new to you, you might be better off getting a pre-built system. System integration can be hit or miss until one acquires experience the hard way. My current home server is an off-lease business-class HP desktop. It's built from commodity parts, so it's upgradable. Look at the service manual before you buy. And the HP runs CentOS beautifully. Jim ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
--On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:17 PM -0400 Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote: I need PCI slots for an additional NIC and a 32 bit video capture card used for zoneminder. Check with the zoneminder people to see what video capture options you can get today that will work with their code. Fewer and fewer machines come with PCI slots, which are incompatible with PCI-E. Some include a single PCI slot. Possibilities include an IP camera or a USB camera. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:17 PM -0400 Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote: I need PCI slots for an additional NIC and a 32 bit video capture card used for zoneminder. Check with the zoneminder people to see what video capture options you can get today that will work with their code. Fewer and fewer machines come with PCI slots, which are incompatible with PCI-E. Some include a single PCI slot. Possibilities include an IP camera or a USB camera. Check http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/03/ars-system-guide-march-2011-edition.ars It's got build your own system guides, for budget, performance, and gaming. I was looking at it a few months ago, and the alternate board to the budget, I think, had several PCI slots, as well as PCI-X. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Sorry to be mean. But there are things off-topic and there are things ooo-tooocc. And this one belongs in the second category. Really, please take this elsewhere. Thanks. I've seen many threads about hardware recommendations as there are many sys admins on this list. It IS for a CentOS box if that makes it more on topic. Maybe I should have put an 'OT' in front of the subject. Anyway, have you anything experience with CyberPower UPS's? Thanks -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
Robert Arkiletian wrote: snip Anyway, have you anything experience with CyberPower UPS's? Small ones, for workstations? Yep, I've got one on mine at home. Been good. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Always Learning wrote: To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org From: Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help I suggest: mini-tower / half-tower AMD 4 core processor with virtualization facility (AMD are cheaper than Intel in Europe) (if buying Intel get the virtualization facility) 8 GB RAM motherboard with PCI Express and 1 or 2 older pci slots 4 SATA (and 2 PATA (ISA) for any old drives*) USB 2 or even USB 3 Ethernet controller sound chips DVD writer 500 GB SATA HDD HDD caddy for easy removal of the HDD * Some ASRock motherboard have it Ebay sell SATA - PATA and vica versa adapters, plus others. So you should be able to use existing PATA drives on a newer SATA m/b with the right adapter. HTH Keith - Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/24/11 1:16 PM, Keith Roberts wrote: Ebay sell SATA - PATA and vica versa adapters, plus others. So you should be able to use existing PATA drives on a newer SATA m/b with the right adapter. not even worth the bother. SATA DVD-RW drives that are probably 6X better than the last ATA versions are $19. SATA hard disks are dirt cheap for terabytes. keeping a pile of obsolete hardware alive in a new system is just a waste of time. -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
Please don't argue. Just don't send any more way off-topic stuff in the future. Thanks. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 13:43 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU Robert Arkiletian wrote: snip Anyway, have you anything experience with CyberPower UPS's? Small ones, for workstations? Yep, I've got one on mine at home. Been good. Have you found a program to communicate with it for getting it's/line's status, and causing shutdown to occur gracefully? And what program was it? :) That was the issue I had with one a few years ago. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Robert Arkiletian wrote: snip Anyway, have you anything experience with CyberPower UPS's? Small ones, for workstations? Yep, I've got one on mine at home. Been good. Have you found a program to communicate with it for getting it's/line's status, and causing shutdown to occur gracefully? And what program was it? :) That was the issue I had with one a few years ago. Haven't looked. I ought to try it, given my electric co mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
How exactly is it OT if he needs the UPS to talk to CentOS?? please stop being so stuckup On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Sorry to be mean. But there are things off-topic and there are things ooo-tooocc. And this one belongs in the second category. Really, please take this elsewhere. Thanks. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
Well!! This has been an adventure. I really appreciate all the help!! Found this on tigerdirect: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4 01989sku=B69-1317 Again, any advice, comments, etc., regarding any incompatibilites would be welcomed!! TIA, Eddie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 01:04:59AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: How exactly is it OT if he needs the UPS to talk to CentOS?? Please don't top-post. Because the original post made no mention of CentOS at all. At least that's my guess and that's also the first impression I had about the post. please stop being so stuckup Please understand that this list has been filled with off-topic garbage over the past year or so and many of us are getting more than a little frustrated with it. Many people that have been here for years have unsub'd and many more continue to mention that as a possibility. Add to that the fact that some of the centos team themselves are no longer on this list and that should tell you something. While this thread turned out to have a centos connection the same can not be said for many of the others over the past year. John -- As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government. -- Dave Barry (3 July 1947-), Pulitzer Prize-winning American author and columnist, Knight Ridder syndicate, New York Daily News, 12 December 2004 pgpgfZ4R563Ff.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 21:16 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote: Ebay sell SATA - PATA and vica versa adapters, plus others. So you should be able to use existing PATA drives on a newer SATA m/b with the right adapter. I was trying to avoid mentioning that 'name' in case one of the readers got upset about 'commercial advertising'. If buying small parts from them, get it from China, means waiting 2 - 3 weeks, at a really low price. Some SATA motherboards have two PATA connections. 'That name' was where I got my current development machine at a good price and without having to pay the almost compulsory Windoze Tax. Paul. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:18 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 01:04:59AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: How exactly is it OT if he needs the UPS to talk to CentOS?? Please don't top-post. Because the original post made no mention of CentOS at all. At least that's my guess and that's also the first impression I had about the post. well, where else would he connect the UPS to? His fish tank? Surely if someone has a PC, and is subscribed to a Linux mailing linux and asks for advice on a hardware device then it would be related to compatibility as well. Someone running Windows probably wouldn't even know if there are other brands available than what he can get from his local PC shop. And just about every single piece of hardware, which can be purchased from any shop will always work on Windows. So why would he bother asking if it would work? please stop being so stuckup Please understand that this list has been filled with off-topic garbage over the past year or so and many of us are getting more than a little frustrated with it. Many people that have been here for years have unsub'd and many more continue to mention that as a possibility. Add to that the fact that some of the centos team themselves are no longer on this list and that should tell you something. While this thread turned out to have a centos connection the same can not be said for many of the others over the past year. EVEN if that's the case (staff leaving and people getting irretated), it's still no reason to be rude with someone without knowing all the facts to his question first. Many people would rather trust the advice given on a list like this than the advice given by a sales rep. Just cause you're a genius and don't need any help with anything ever, doesn't mean the next guy is as clever as you. John -- As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government. -- Dave Barry (3 July 1947-), Pulitzer Prize-winning American author and columnist, Knight Ridder syndicate, New York Daily News, 12 December 2004 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:19 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: not even worth the bother. SATA DVD-RW drives that are probably 6X better than the last ATA versions are $19. SATA hard disks are dirt cheap for terabytes. Wish we had those low prices in England. Buyers should be aware that HDDs can vary in performance. I always check with http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/ and select 'searchable HDD list' I always buy high performance at the lowest possible price. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: Because the original post made no mention of CentOS at all. At least that's my guess and that's also the first impression I had about the post. Sorry I should have initially stated it was for CentOS6. well, where else would he connect the UPS to? His fish tank? Surely if someone has a PC, and is subscribed to a Linux mailing linux and asks for advice on a hardware device then it would be related to compatibility as well. Thanks for the support but I really don't want my query to turn into a debate about what's off topic. It's just that I have only ever used APC and apcupsd. I've never used CyberPower and wondered if other CentOS people were using it with success/reliability. If that's off topic then I've learned something. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] UPS issues with PFC PSU
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 01:26:39AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: well, where else would he connect the UPS to? His fish tank? Based on past nonsensical threads in this list that is indeed a possibility, yes. Surely if someone has a PC, and is subscribed to a Linux mailing linux and asks for advice on a hardware device then it would be related to compatibility as well. Sorry, I don't make such assumptions; quite frankly neither should you or anyone else. Someone running Windows probably wouldn't even know if there are other brands available than what he can get from his local PC shop. And just about every single piece of hardware, which can be purchased from any shop will always work on Windows. So why would he bother asking if it would work? Does it make you feel better to insult the many, many millions of people that run windows? EVEN if that's the case (staff leaving and people getting irretated), it's still no reason to be rude with someone without knowing all the facts to his question first. I suppose it's too much to ask that people make a connection to CentOS in their initial post so all these types of arguments can be put to rest? It not only makes the post valid but it also supplies the readers of the list with the additional information they need to actually help the original poster. Note: I am simply using the OP of this thread as an example, I am not necessarily pointing fingers. Many people would rather trust the advice given on a list like this than the advice given by a sales rep. Just cause you're a genius and don't need any help with anything ever, doesn't mean the next guy is as clever as you. Lately the advice on this list is quite often of questionable worth. John -- Yesterday was the first anniversary of the discovery of Neptune -- in Neptune years. 11 July 2011 marks the first full orbit of the planet Neptune since its discovery on the night of September 23-24, 1846. -- Charlie Jane Anders, io9.com, based on an article by Tammy Plotner, universetoday.com, 11 July 2011 pgp1euFEsM9Jc.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
