Re: [CentOS-es] No puedo instalar CentOs 6 en Dell Vostro 3300

2011-08-28 Thread Alberto Rivera M.
Para los más entendidos !!! trate de instalar el Centos6 a través de la 
Red, o sea, con el NetInstall y me aparece este error ...


Loader exited unexpectedly! backtrace:

/sbin/loader [0x804fbbe]
/sbin/loader [0x804fc74]
/lib/libc.so.6(exit + 0xdf)[0xfbe44f]
/sbin/loader [0x8059164]
/sbin/loader [0x8052e55]
/lib/libc.so.6(_libc_start_main + 0xe6)[0xfa6cc6]
/sbin/loader [0x804d3e1]
Running anaconda 13.21.82, the centos systema installer - please wait ...
exec of anaconda failed : exec format error
install exited abnormally [1/1]
the system wiil be rebooted when you press ctrl+c or -


Ahora prueba con CentOs5 por red a ver como me va total después 
actualizo y listo ... pero este error está bien interesante porque al 
parecer no hay mucha documentación...


salu2




El 27/08/11 19:29, Pcontreras escribió:

Hola listeros,
Prueba Instalando con un monitor externo, también estuve en una situación
similar instalando federa 14  con una tarjeta de video similar.


saludos,

Suerte.



2011/8/27 Alberto Rivera M.rivera.albe...@gmail.com


El 27/08/11 11:13, Ramón Macías Zamora escribió:

  Alguna vez me pasó algo parecido pero con Fedora, el problema era que el

ISO
que habí descargado estaba corrupto, lo descargué nuevamente y listo.

Saludos


voy a probar descargando otro de los mismos pero baje a la 5.6 y me aparece
un crash memory al inicio y después como esta cuestión es una maquina nvidia
no me inicia el entorno gráfico, de todas formas lo bajo de neuvo, pero creo
que puede ser otra cosa ... igual gracias por la respuesta...

salu2 y sigo probando así que todos los mensajes son bien recibidos :)



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2011/8/27 Alberto Rivera M.rivera.albe...@gmail.com

  Eso ... cuando inicio el livecd de CentOs6 se pega, lo malo es que se no

puedo ver los errores que aparecen lo traté de instalar a través de
unebooting pero tampoco funciona ...

Mi notebook es un Dell Vostro 3300, i5, 6gb Ram, 500Gb HD .. si necesitan
algún dato adicional me avisan, sería super bueno que me indicaran que
puedo
hacer ... mi tarjeta de video :

:~01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce
310M] (rev a2)


en todo caso estoy usando Debian con Gnome y el kernel3.0.0.1

:~Linux bit 3.0.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 24 02:24:44 UTC 2011 x86_64
GNU/Linux


Alguna idea :)
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[CentOS] If you are using CentOS 6 and KDE....

2011-08-28 Thread Anne Wilson
The desktop will look strange and behave differently.  If you need any help in 
getting used to it, either join the kde user list, 
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde , the kde forum,  
http://forum.kde.org/ , or mail me personally.  

Once again I will turn off receipt from this list.  The attitude of several 
posters is unacceptable to me.

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Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?

2011-08-28 Thread hadi motamedi
On 8/27/11, Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 21:12 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:

 but there's a nearly infinite number of possible combinations of the
 options, and the order you specify transforms can have an effect on the
 output, how would you represent this in a GUI ?

 I am not writing a GUI for it. However a useful GUI could show the
 effects of making simple changes - perhaps one change at a time - not
 multiple changes. This would show new users what commands actually do
 and the relevant CLI instructions.

 You are correct about the order of commands altering the output. The
 commands are performed sequentially, left to right. It is impressive
 software.


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I have experience working with MATLAB image processing toolbox. I
found GIMP very powerful ,especially in its tools for 'selecting image
foreground/background' that is not so simply available even in MATLAB
toolbox. But unfortunately, my centos 5.6 built-in GIMP is too old
(GIMP 2.2) that does not have these new tools. I didn't find any
straightforward procedure on how to migrate to GIMP 2.4/2.6  . Don't
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Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/27/2011 03:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:

 I accidentally discovered 'convert'. It is a command line utility.
 Changing a file from png to gif works like this

This is a mailing list, a conversational forum. not a blog or a 
documentaion forum. If you want to contribute such stuff productively, 
do so in the wiki, where it would be appreciated and actually worthwhile.

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Re: [CentOS] If you are using CentOS 6 and KDE....

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/28/2011 10:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
 The desktop will look strange and behave differently.  If you need any help in
 getting used to it, either join the kde user list,
 https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde , the kde forum,
 http://forum.kde.org/ , or mail me personally.

you forgot to mention what the issues really are ?

 Once again I will turn off receipt from this list.  The attitude of several
 posters is unacceptable to me.

is it not easier to just turn off emails from them getting to you via 
mail filters ?

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Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 13:33 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 This is a mailing list, a conversational forum. not a blog or a 
 documentaion forum. If you want to contribute such stuff productively, 
 do so in the wiki, where it would be appreciated and actually worthwhile.

Good idea. Thank you.

Any news of those tee-shirts please ?




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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/25/2011 12:30 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
 an offtopic list would need to come with a lot more moderation here then.

 Are the -devel and -docs lists moderated?

I didnt imply holding postings back for moderation - but more along the 
lines of creating an identity for the list, and asking people to shift 
conversations to better suite the audience on there. And in those ways 
the -devel and -docs list are much more focused than the generic list here.

 A reason I suggest -tech is that it's usually fairly clear when a question
 isn't technical but either social or political (eg. advocacy).

 OTOH, I don't think the technical traffic is high enough to warrant
 separate software and hardware lists (as would be the case with the generic
 Linux newsgroups).

A large part of the value of this list comes from the varied and diverse 
membership. However, the main focus is still about CentOS itself. I try 
and keep up, but often fall behind reading this list - but it does look 
like a lot more people would rather see the hostility and arrogance on 
this list go away, rather than split the membership up into smaller groups.

An example worth looking at and considering is the centos-virt list. 
Quite a few people here are members there as well, and yet continue to 
post to this list about their virt specific issues.

The other issue that we have, which many other lists dont - is that the 
membership churn is quite high. And without exception, we fail quite 
comprehensively as a group to capitalise on that. What should be an 
amazing opportunity for us to bring in, nurture and hold onto content 
and tech specific talent - is repeatedly driven away, marginalised and 
put down.

Yes we have the people using this list repeatedly without contributing 
back, yes we have people on the list here who will, even after being 
pointed out, fail to adhere to list etiquette and we have people on 
there who will still stick in and try to help others through the noise. 
And yes we do have people who will rant on and on about things with 
dubious relevance, while they will still turn around and make very good 
relevant points some times. But guess what, we have all kinds of people 
on this list - even the occasional spammer.

One thing we definitely have in abundance is opinion on how this list 
should be run, whats OT and whats not and how people should go about 
starting to get help with issues they come up against. Since not 
everyone here would have a wiki.centos.org account, I've started a 
typewith.me page at http://typewith.me/B3hEsCAx97 ; how about everyone 
come together and thrash out a list policy, with guidelines and helpful 
content that might even become holding content at 
wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp and wiki.centos.org/EngageCommunity

Thoughts about this, put it here on the list. Thoughts ON the content, 
put them in the typewith.me page. If you have a wiki account, please use 
the login name there for your ID on the typewith.me page.

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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/26/2011 09:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 The CentOS forum is pretty useless IMO

The CentOS Forums are a very very good resource for many people and the 
people spending time managing and posting there are doing a very good 
job. I'm guessing you were unable to get value from the forums since 
your expectations and forums deliverables dont match. That's fine, but 
it does not imply that the entire forums are 'useless'.

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Re: [CentOS] ImageMagick : Centos GUI ?

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/28/2011 01:37 PM, Always Learning wrote:
 Any news of those tee-shirts please ?


Yes!  will post details. Its taken be a bit of time to get costs for 
shipping worked out for all the various parts of the world.

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Re: [CentOS] Installing 6.0 via USB

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/26/2011 09:41 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
 I'm using LiveUSB-Creator to create a bootable USB drive from
 CentOS-6.0-i386-netinstall.iso, and it gives me an error at startup:


I've done a bunch of usb driven installs so far with centos-6, i386 and 
x86_64 and had zero issues just using dd to get the netinstall image 
onto the usb and booting, installing.

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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 13:58 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 The other issue that we have, which many other lists dont - is that
 the membership churn is quite high. And without exception, we fail
 quite comprehensively as a group to capitalise on that. W

Please explain how, or why, the group should 'capitalise' on membership
churn ?  Churn, what the English once called 'turnover', means people
departing. How could departees be 'capitalised on' ?  Given a free 'I
Love Centos' sticker as a memento  ?

I favour publicising Centos more. It really is a brilliant product
created and maintained by a tiny few who are mainly unknown to the vast
quantity of world users. 

I suggest an annual week long Centos event on every continent. For
Europe, perhaps in sunny Belgium. To make it affordable for all it could
be camping rather than expensive hotels and held in June, July or
August.



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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/28/2011 02:12 PM, Always Learning wrote:
 The other issue that we have, which many other lists dont - is that
 the membership churn is quite high. And without exception, we fail
 quite comprehensively as a group to capitalise on that. W

 Please explain how, or why, the group should 'capitalise' on membership
 churn ?  Churn, what the English once called 'turnover', means people
 departing. How could departees be 'capitalised on' ?  Given a free 'I
 Love Centos' sticker as a memento  ?

ok, to me Churn implies people joining and leaving, turnover is high. We 
do have lots of people joining, but we have a lot of people leaving due 
to the various reasons, its that we should address. We have the benefit 
of lots of people coming in, lets capitalise on that to expand the user 
base, the knowledge base and the general community at large. Rather than 
fail in the way we do by driving away large numbers.

 I suggest an annual week long Centos event on every continent. For
 Europe, perhaps in sunny Belgium. To make it affordable for all it could
 be camping rather than expensive hotels and held in June, July or
 August.

heh, I've been to belgium 8 times in the last 5 years. Its never failed 
to rain on me ( even snow one in a while ). A CentOS Conference would be 
nice, its been brought up often. If you want to help make it happen - 
come join the centos-promo list and lets see if we can do something.

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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 On 08/26/2011 09:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 The CentOS forum is pretty useless IMO

 The CentOS Forums are a very very good resource for many people and the
 people spending time managing and posting there are doing a very good
 job. I'm guessing you were unable to get value from the forums since
 your expectations and forums deliverables dont match. That's fine, but
 it does not imply that the entire forums are 'useless'.

Just to second KB's view ... Anyone who thinks the CentOS Forums are
not a valuable source as one of the help venues CentOS offers is
encouraged to try and make it better instead of expressing his/her
opinion as 'useless'. Why this is important?  Google knows:

http://blog.toracat.org/2010/05/search-is-on-an-update/

Also ... if you value what ELRepo provides, you'd like to know that
the ELRepo Project would not have been born without the Forums:

http://blog.toracat.org/2009/06/elrepo-project/

Akemi -- done with enough adv of own blogs :-D
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[CentOS] Update to CentOS 6.0 without CD/DVD reader

2011-08-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
I've had a disaster on my home network server;
the partition table on the disk containing / has become corrupted,
and testdisk has not enabled me to recover the table.
If anyone can help with this I should be grateful.
However, that is not what I am writing about.

I've installed a substitute box - and HP MicroServer -
which by a miracle has CentOS-5.6 installed on it.
Now I'm wondering what is the best way to install CentOS-6,
given that there is no CD/DVD driver on this machine.

I have access to the internet, so I can download the CD/DVD .
I know I could install through a USB stick;
I'm just wondering if there is a more direct route.

I should look this up, but I'm rather weary after installing dovecot,
httpd, etc, and thought I'd take a short cut by asking you gurus.

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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 14:39 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 heh, I've been to belgium 8 times in the last 5 years. Its never
 failed to rain on me ( even snow one in a while ). A CentOS Conference
 would be nice, its been brought up often. If you want to help make it
 happen - come join the centos-promo list and lets see if we can do
 something.

You, purposely ?, omitted the time of the year when it rained :-)
Snow is unlikely in June, July and August in the northern hemisphere.

Yes, let us make it happen in 2012 when the streets of London are
grid-locked (that's American for jammed) with Olympic traffic and parts
of London grind to a halt. A welcome and refreshing break, good weather,
stimulating thoughts and learning and discovering new things plus the
tasty Belgium chips (USA = fries) and beer.

Promo here I come or should that be in Belgium Dutch (Flemish)

Ik ben op de weg naar Promo, bijna.



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Re: [CentOS] Update to CentOS 6.0 without CD/DVD reader

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 14:52 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

 I've had a disaster on my home network server;
 the partition table on the disk containing / has become corrupted,
 and testdisk has not enabled me to recover the table.
 If anyone can help with this I should be grateful.

Have you used testdisk to find and copy files to another partition ?

When using testdisk I found the best practise is NOT to attempt to
rewrite anything. Extracting as many files as possible off the bad
partition should be the priority.


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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool
 
 On 08/26/2011 09:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 The CentOS forum is pretty useless IMO

 The CentOS Forums are a very very good resource for many people and the
 people spending time managing and posting there are doing a very good
 job. I'm guessing you were unable to get value from the forums since
 your expectations and forums deliverables dont match. That's fine, but
 it does not imply that the entire forums are 'useless'.

I'd say the forums have ALOT of usefull info, but the main 
Centos activity is centered on IMHO this list - cannot speak 
for the other centos lists, as I'm ONLY on this one for now.

Personally, I prefer to participate in an active mailing 
list, where there are many others that usually reply in 
near-real time.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011, Karanbir Singh wrote:

 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?
 
 On 08/28/2011 02:12 PM, Always Learning wrote:
 The other issue that we have, which many other lists dont - is that
 the membership churn is quite high. And without exception, we fail
 quite comprehensively as a group to capitalise on that. W

 Please explain how, or why, the group should 'capitalise' on membership
 churn ?  Churn, what the English once called 'turnover', means people
 departing. How could departees be 'capitalised on' ?  Given a free 'I
 Love Centos' sticker as a memento  ?

 ok, to me Churn implies people joining and leaving, turnover is high. We
 do have lots of people joining, but we have a lot of people leaving due
 to the various reasons, its that we should address. We have the benefit
 of lots of people coming in, lets capitalise on that to expand the user
 base, the knowledge base and the general community at large. Rather than
 fail in the way we do by driving away large numbers.

Well I've been on *many* mailing lists, and there's no way I 
could keep on them all at the same time :(

Apache, MySQL, SQLite, PHP install, Alpine, plus others. So 
my reasons to unsub from the list, would be to reduce the 
number of mails coming to my inbox each day. A classic 
example would be if I was moving house - get off as many 
lists as possible to reduce the backlog of emails for me to 
wade through after the move.

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[CentOS] Centos Mail Lists : Main Web Page

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

centos.org

support

mailing lists

goes to http://centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16


However only a few mailing lists are shown:-

Announce

discussion and information

developers

Mirror

Docs

virtualization


On http://lists.centos.org/ which displays as
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/ we see:-

CentOS
CentOS mailing list
CentOS-announce
CentOS announcements (security and
general) will be posted to this
list.
CentOS-CR-announce
Announcements for the CentOS CR
repository will be made on this
list.
CentOS-cz
Czech mailing list for CentOS
CentOS-de
German mailing list for CentOS
CentOS-devel
The CentOS developers mailing list.
CentOS-docs
Mail list for wiki articles
CentOS-es
Spanish CentOS list
CentOS-fr
Liste de diffusion francophone
CentOS-gsoc
CentOS GSOC activities
CentOS-mirror
Mailing list for CentOS mirrors.
CentOS-mirror-announce
Announcements to mirror admins from
the CentOS team
CentOS-Newsletter
Newsletter announcement list
CentOS-nl
Dutch CentOS mailing list
CentOS-promo
Events, gatherings and meetings
CentOS-pt-br
Portuguese (Brazilian) CentOS
mailing list
CentOS-virt
Discussion about the virtualization
on CentOS



However an enquiring person may not always know this 'trick' of entering
lists.centos.org. Consequently
www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 would benefit from a
revision or centos.org - support - mailing lists - could have its link
changed to lists.centos.org




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[CentOS] Centos Mail Lists : Main Web Page

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

CentOS = CentOS mailing list

CentOS-announce = CentOS announcements (security and general) will be posted to 
this
list.

CentOS-CR-announce = Announcements for the CentOS CR repository will be made on 
this
list.

CentOS-cz = Czech mailing list for CentOS
CentOS-de = German mailing list for CentOS
CentOS-devel = The CentOS developers mailing list.
CentOS-docs = Mail list for wiki articles
CentOS-es = Spanish CentOS list
CentOS-fr = Liste de diffusion francophone
CentOS-gsoc = CentOS GSOC activities
CentOS-mirror = Mailing list for CentOS mirrors.
CentOS-mirror-announce = Announcements to mirror admins from the CentOS team
CentOS-Newsletter = Newsletter announcement list
CentOS-nl = Dutch CentOS mailing list
CentOS-promo = Events, gatherings and meetings
CentOS-pt-br = Portuguese (Brazilian) CentOS mailing list 
CentOS-virt = Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS



However an enquiring person may not always know this 'trick' of entering
lists.centos.org. Consequently
www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 would benefit from a
revision or centos.org - support - mailing lists - could have its link
changed to lists.centos.org

Having information in one place reduces the possibility other copies of it may 
be incomplete.



Paul.

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[CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Thomas Dukes
Hello,

Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a E3-1225 Xeon processor
is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to upgrade from 5.6 but my
hardware will not allow me to do so. I do not wish to buy something that is
incompatible as I already have that now.

The TS130 is replacing the TS200v which is RHEL 6.x certified. The TS130 has
an Intel mobo and uses the C206 chipset. I do not know the model number for
the mobo itself.

I have spent the last 45 minutes on the phone with Lenovo and talked with
'Peggy' seven different times before being disconnected.

TIA,

Eddie

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Re: [CentOS] Off topic list for centos please?

2011-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:

 I didnt imply holding postings back for moderation - but more along the
 lines of creating an identity for the list, and asking people to shift
 conversations to better suite the audience on there. And in those ways
 the -devel and -docs list are much more focused than the generic list here.

I think the missing piece is something like an EL-admin list.  That
is, one where people could discuss things that are common issues on
distributions based on RHEL and with access to the same set of 3rd
party package repositories.  That's not exactly Centos-specific, but
Centos users are probably the largest single collection with the most
experience, so the questions come up here - and sometimes it isn't
obvious at the start whether the problem relates to the distribution
packaging or an application.

The usual advice here for application-related issues is to go to the
application's own list, but there the first and sometimes only
response you will get is to 'upgrade to current' before discussing any
problems.And that is seldom the right advice for EL-type distro
users.   Plus, there are often several different applications that can
be used for any purpose and choosing the right one based on others'
experiences should be the first step.

In any case, whether it should be managed by the Centos group or not,
users need a list where those questions aren't met with hostility and
the most likely response is a pointer to an appropriate packaged
application version (since most common problems have already been
solved somewhere).

I start with the view that the policy restrictions that make 3rd party
package repositories necessary and not referenced in the base distro
_are_ a Centos problem, even if inherited from upstream, so discussing
the workarounds here should be on topic, even if not Centos-specific.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 12:29 -0400, Thomas Dukes wrote:

 Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a E3-1225 Xeon processor
 is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to upgrade from 5.6 but my
 hardware will not allow me to do so.

Intel
Quad-core
3.10 GHz
L2 Cache 1 MB
L3 Cache 6 MB
64-bit Processing
  * Turbo Boost Technology
  * Virtualization Technology
  * Trusted Execution Technology
  * Extended Memory 64 Technology
Platform: PC

Seems OK, what specific problems are you having ?



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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net wrote:
 The CentOS Forums are a very very good resource for many people and the
 people spending time managing and posting there are doing a very good
 job. I'm guessing you were unable to get value from the forums since
 your expectations and forums deliverables dont match. That's fine, but
 it does not imply that the entire forums are 'useless'.

 I'd say the forums have ALOT of usefull info, but the main
 Centos activity is centered on IMHO this list - cannot speak
 for the other centos lists, as I'm ONLY on this one for now.


The problem with forums is that if you have more than a couple of
interests you kill the whole day bouncing around in a web browser
logging into them and figuring out their user interface differences.
Could the rss feed be made a little more obvious?  It might work to
plug it into google reader or other feed consolidator.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Thomas Dukes
 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Always Learning
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:31 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0
 
 
 On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 12:29 -0400, Thomas Dukes wrote:
 
  Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a E3-1225 Xeon 
  processor is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to 
 upgrade from 
  5.6 but my hardware will not allow me to do so.
 
 Intel
 Quad-core
 3.10 GHz
 L2 Cache 1 MB
 L3 Cache 6 MB
 64-bit Processing
   * Turbo Boost Technology
   * Virtualization Technology
   * Trusted Execution Technology
   * Extended Memory 64 Technology
 Platform: PC
 
 Seems OK, what specific problems are you having ?

Sorry, I meant the hardware I have now is preventing me from upgrading to
6.0

I just want to make sure CentOS 6.0 would have the necessary drivers for the
on board video, ethernet, etc., for the TS130 before I make the purchase. I
just don't want to be in the same boat as I'm in now.

I have bought a PC in eight years so I just want to make sure its going to
run 6.0.

Thanks,

Eddie

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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 11:37 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 The problem with forums is that if you have more than a couple of
 interests you kill the whole day bouncing around in a web browser
 logging into them and figuring out their user interface differences.
 Could the rss feed be made a little more obvious?  It might work to
 plug it into google reader or other feed consolidator.

Forums  = too slow
= too much hard work for little gain
Emails  = instant
= quick
= easy

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread William Warren
On 8/28/2011 12:43 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Always Learning
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 12:31 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0


 On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 12:29 -0400, Thomas Dukes wrote:

 Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a E3-1225 Xeon
 processor is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to
 upgrade from
 5.6 but my hardware will not allow me to do so.
 Intel
 Quad-core
 3.10 GHz
 L2 Cache 1 MB
 L3 Cache 6 MB
 64-bit Processing
* Turbo Boost Technology
* Virtualization Technology
* Trusted Execution Technology
* Extended Memory 64 Technology
 Platform: PC

 Seems OK, what specific problems are you having ?
 Sorry, I meant the hardware I have now is preventing me from upgrading to
 6.0

 I just want to make sure CentOS 6.0 would have the necessary drivers for the
 on board video, ethernet, etc., for the TS130 before I make the purchase. I
 just don't want to be in the same boat as I'm in now.

 I have bought a PC in eight years so I just want to make sure its going to
 run 6.0.

 Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Devin Reade
It looks like the TS130 is a scaled down version of the TS430.
The RedHat hardware certification catalog shows the TS430 as
certified for 5.6 and 6, so it looks promising.

It looks like HP also has certified hardware on RHEL with the
C206 chipset.

Caveat Emptor of course.  I have no direct or conclusive information
on the TS130.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Timo Neuvonen
  Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a E3-1225 Xeon
  processor is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to
 upgrade from
  5.6 but my hardware will not allow me to do so.

 Intel
 Quad-core
 3.10 GHz
 L2 Cache 1 MB
 L3 Cache 6 MB
 64-bit Processing
   * Turbo Boost Technology
   * Virtualization Technology
   * Trusted Execution Technology
   * Extended Memory 64 Technology
 Platform: PC

 Seems OK, what specific problems are you having ?

 Sorry, I meant the hardware I have now is preventing me from upgrading to
 6.0

 I just want to make sure CentOS 6.0 would have the necessary drivers for 
 the
 on board video, ethernet, etc., for the TS130 before I make the purchase.


Not absolutely sure about this, but I think E3-series is very close to 2nd 
generation i3/i5/i7.

A while ago I installed CentOS 6.0 to Acer 7550 laptop that uses integrated 
Intel HD Graphics of i5 CPU.
All I got with 6.0 kernels was vesa 1024x768 resolution. I found out 6.1 
shoud fix this. Since CentOS 6.1 wasn't out then, I installed kernel from 
Scientific Linux 6.1 (another RHEL clone) and theafter I got very nice 
graphics -and high-resolution console also in runlevel 3 to my CentOS 6 
laptop.

So, I would say 6.0 doesn't support Intel graphics of that CPU, but 6.1 
should do it. Don't know about network etc, but at least it fixes the 
graphics -I guess that server uses integrated graphics since they've chosen 
a CPU that has it.

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Re: [CentOS] Update to CentOS 6.0 without CD/DVD reader

2011-08-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 08/28/11 6:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Now I'm wondering what is the best way to install CentOS-6,
 given that there is no CD/DVD driver on this machine.

 I have access to the internet, so I can download the CD/DVD .
 I know I could install through a USB stick;
 I'm just wondering if there is a more direct route.

A) PXE boot and do a network installation aka kickstart.   This would, 
of course, require another 'nix system on the LAN running DHCP, TFTP, 
and NFS

B) boot a USB stick with the Netinstall image, and point it at a http 
URL of the centos repository, which could be either a local mirror or 
one on the internet somewhere as long as your internet is reasonably 
fast and stable.  I'd suggest doing a bare minimal install this way, 
then adding other stuff post-install with yum.


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Re: [CentOS] Apache warns Web server admins of DoS attack tool

2011-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net wrote:

 On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 11:37 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 The problem with forums is that if you have more than a couple of
 interests you kill the whole day bouncing around in a web browser
 logging into them and figuring out their user interface differences.
 Could the rss feed be made a little more obvious?  It might work to
 plug it into google reader or other feed consolidator.

 Forums  = too slow
        = too much hard work for little gain
 Emails  = instant
        = quick
        = easy

I agree in principle, but remember that you are really interacting
with your own tools, so if they are slow or inconvenient you can use a
different tool.  There are some email readers (Apple's, at least) that
handle rss feeds pretty much the same as email.   Google reader or
other feed aggregators make it easy to read a bunch from different
sources all in one place with whatever groupings you like - and always
maintain the same 'unread' view across different client browsers or
phone apps.   So, if the forums provide a usable rss feed, reading
them shouldn't be that bad, even though you have to follow the links
to read longer messages and reply.   Seems to work fine for the QA
forum, anyway.

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Re: [CentOS] Update to CentOS 6.0 without CD/DVD reader

2011-08-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:55 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 08/28/11 6:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Now I'm wondering what is the best way to install CentOS-6,
 given that there is no CD/DVD driver on this machine.

 I have access to the internet, so I can download the CD/DVD .
 I know I could install through a USB stick;
 I'm just wondering if there is a more direct route.

 A) PXE boot and do a network installation aka kickstart.   This would,
 of course, require another 'nix system on the LAN running DHCP, TFTP,
 and NFS

 B) boot a USB stick with the Netinstall image, and point it at a http
 URL of the centos repository, which could be either a local mirror or
 one on the internet somewhere as long as your internet is reasonably
 fast and stable.  I'd suggest doing a bare minimal install this way,
 then adding other stuff post-install with yum.


Or, boot the Netinstall image and do an NFS intall from your local copy.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Thomas Dukes
 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Devin Reade
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 1:46 PM
 To: CentOS mailing list
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0
 
 It looks like the TS130 is a scaled down version of the TS430.
 The RedHat hardware certification catalog shows the TS430 as 
 certified for 5.6 and 6, so it looks promising.
 
 It looks like HP also has certified hardware on RHEL with the
 C206 chipset.
 
 Caveat Emptor of course.  I have no direct or conclusive 
 information on the TS130.
 
 Devin

Not like I'm spending my life savings or anything, but that's what I was
thinking as well. Still, I would like to make sure CentOS 6.x will install.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0

2011-08-28 Thread Thomas Dukes
 

 -Original Message-
 From: centos-boun...@centos.org 
 [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Timo Neuvonen
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:08 PM
 To: centos@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.0
 
   Can anyone pls tell me if a ThinkServer TS130 with a 
 E3-1225 Xeon 
   processor is compatible with CentOS 6.0? I would like to
  upgrade from
   5.6 but my hardware will not allow me to do so.
 
  Intel
  Quad-core
  3.10 GHz
  L2 Cache 1 MB
  L3 Cache 6 MB
  64-bit Processing
* Turbo Boost Technology
* Virtualization Technology
* Trusted Execution Technology
* Extended Memory 64 Technology
  Platform: PC
 
  Seems OK, what specific problems are you having ?
 
  Sorry, I meant the hardware I have now is preventing me 
 from upgrading 
  to 6.0
 
  I just want to make sure CentOS 6.0 would have the 
 necessary drivers 
  for the on board video, ethernet, etc., for the TS130 before I make 
  the purchase.
 
 
 Not absolutely sure about this, but I think E3-series is very 
 close to 2nd generation i3/i5/i7.
 
 A while ago I installed CentOS 6.0 to Acer 7550 laptop that 
 uses integrated Intel HD Graphics of i5 CPU.
 All I got with 6.0 kernels was vesa 1024x768 resolution. I 
 found out 6.1 shoud fix this. Since CentOS 6.1 wasn't out 
 then, I installed kernel from Scientific Linux 6.1 (another 
 RHEL clone) and theafter I got very nice graphics -and 
 high-resolution console also in runlevel 3 to my CentOS 6 laptop.
 
 So, I would say 6.0 doesn't support Intel graphics of that 
 CPU, but 6.1 should do it. Don't know about network etc, but 
 at least it fixes the graphics -I guess that server uses 
 integrated graphics since they've chosen a CPU that has it.
 
TiN,

Graphics are the least concern as this will be a server not a workstation.
My eyesight can't much see more than 800x600 anyway.

But, thanks for your response, its much appreciated!

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[CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread ken
When I downloaded the iso for 6.0 install, K3b said the iso wouldn't fit
on the blank DVD.

So I downloaded and burned the LiveDVD.  When I boot it, I get the blue
splash screen (it says CentOS... Community Enterprise OS on the bottom,
logo to the right), but nothing else comes up.  Hitting various keys
does nothing.

Downloaded and burned the Netinstall CD.  It gives an error message that
it can't install because the machine's CPU doesn't have pae.

So is it the end of CentOS/RH for this machine?  (I can't believe that.
 One of the great things about Linux has always been that it'll run on
old hardware.)  Or are these fixable problems?  Or are there workarounds?

Or should I go for a different distribution?


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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 08/28/2011 09:06 PM, ken wrote:
 When I downloaded the iso for 6.0 install, K3b said the iso wouldn't fit
 on the blank DVD.

Hi,

From the 6.0 Release Notes here:

The i386 DVD is just a bit too large to fit on normal single layer
DVD+R media. It can be burnt successfully on DVD-R or dual-layer media.

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:06 -0400, ken wrote:

 When I downloaded the iso for 6.0 install, K3b said the iso wouldn't fit
 on the blank DVD.

I remember reading that there are two main DVD formats + and -. One has
(more?) error correction than the other and therefore everything may not
fit on that type of DVD.  Centos 5.6 for X64 requires 2 DVDs.

Which version did you download ?

 So I downloaded and burned the LiveDVD.  When I boot it, I get the blue
 splash screen (it says CentOS... Community Enterprise OS on the bottom,
 logo to the right), but nothing else comes up.  Hitting various keys
 does nothing.

Are you able to do a read integrity test of any of the DVDs ?

 Downloaded and burned the Netinstall CD.  It gives an error message that
 it can't install because the machine's CPU doesn't have pae.

Recently someone wrote that PAE related to i386 but was not required for
x64. What CPU type is your target machine ?

 So is it the end of CentOS/RH for this machine?  (I can't believe that.
  One of the great things about Linux has always been that it'll run on
 old hardware.)  Or are these fixable problems?  Or are there workarounds?

That used to be true but it is inevitable as 'modern' distributions get
more capable not all current distributions cater for older spec.
equipment. I hear there are other, non-Centos, distributions that do
cater for less technically advanced machines. 

I'm waiting for Centos 6.1 before I try version 6.

 Or should I go for a different distribution?

Have you tried Scientific Linux ? It is another Red Hat clone closely(?)
related to Centos.


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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread ken
On 08/28/2011 09:15 PM Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 On 08/28/2011 09:06 PM, ken wrote:
 When I downloaded the iso for 6.0 install, K3b said the iso wouldn't fit
 on the blank DVD.
 
 Hi,
 
From the 6.0 Release Notes here:
 
 The i386 DVD is just a bit too large to fit on normal single layer
 DVD+R media. It can be burnt successfully on DVD-R or dual-layer media.
 
 HTH,
 Jorge

Thanks, Jorge.  That's what I suspected.  Yeah, I have the DVD+R/W.

It would be nice if the download page mentioned that.  Save people some
time and effort.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread ken
On 08/28/2011 09:17 PM Always Learning wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 21:06 -0400, ken wrote:
 
 When I downloaded the iso for 6.0 install, K3b said the iso wouldn't fit
 on the blank DVD.
 
 I remember reading that there are two main DVD formats + and -. One has
 (more?) error correction than the other and therefore everything may not
 fit on that type of DVD.  Centos 5.6 for X64 requires 2 DVDs.

Okay, that's the problem.  Well, it shouldn't be a problem really, but
that's why I have it and others don't.


 
 Which version did you download ?

Yeah, it was the i386.


 
 So I downloaded and burned the LiveDVD.  When I boot it, I get the blue
 splash screen (it says CentOS... Community Enterprise OS on the bottom,
 logo to the right), but nothing else comes up.  Hitting various keys
 does nothing.
 
 Are you able to do a read integrity test of any of the DVDs ?

The md5sum on the download checked out.  I didn't verify the copy of the
burned DVD though.  I burned the DVD from the CLI with growiso.  I
couldn't think immediately how to do an md5sum on the DVD, so didn't.  I
just googled for how to do this.  The info I found wasn't helpful.

 
 Downloaded and burned the Netinstall CD.  It gives an error message that
 it can't install because the machine's CPU doesn't have pae.
 
 Recently someone wrote that PAE related to i386 but was not required for
 x64. What CPU type is your target machine ?

Broadly speaking it's a pentium i686, but without pae.  The fact that
this machine is excluded from RH/CentOS doesn't bode well for Linux.


 
 So is it the end of CentOS/RH for this machine?  (I can't believe that.
  One of the great things about Linux has always been that it'll run on
 old hardware.)  Or are these fixable problems?  Or are there workarounds?
 
 That used to be true but it is inevitable as 'modern' distributions get
 more capable not all current distributions cater for older spec.
 equipment. I hear there are other, non-Centos, distributions that do
 cater for less technically advanced machines. 

Well, since I've got two or three other machines I'm either upgrading or
installing linux on, machines that are older than this one, I guess I'm
done with RH/CentOS.


 
 I'm waiting for Centos 6.1 before I try version 6.

Do you think hardware restrictions will be lessened in 6.1?


 
 Or should I go for a different distribution?
 
 Have you tried Scientific Linux ? It is another Red Hat clone closely(?)
 related to Centos.

Thanks for the tip.  I'll have a look.



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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread Always Learning

On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 22:33 -0400, ken wrote:

 On 08/28/2011 09:17 PM Always Learning wrote:

 Broadly speaking it's a pentium i686, but without pae.  The fact that
 this machine is excluded from RH/CentOS doesn't bode well for Linux.

The i686 is an i386 32 bit CPU and needs PAE to address more than 64 GB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_%28microarchitecture%29 states about the
i686:-

PAE and wider 36-bit address bus to support 64 GB of physical memory
(the linear address space of a process was still limited to 4 GB).

 Well, since I've got two or three other machines I'm either upgrading or
 installing linux on, machines that are older than this one, I guess I'm
 done with RH/CentOS.

Is your use of a particular Intel CPU really to blame and not
necessarily Centos ?

You could stay with Centos 5.x and upgrade to 5.7 when it becomes
available. You do not have to upgrade to Centos 6.

If the motherboard is fairly modern, and has the correct type of CPU
socket, you may be able to replace the CPU for a PAE one.

  I'm waiting for Centos 6.1 before I try version 6.
 
 Do you think hardware restrictions will be lessened in 6.1?

No. I think many initial teething problems will be solved and
installation bugs, if any, will be reduced or eliminated. I'm letting
the more daring and adventurous folk with lots of spare time discover
the problems.

When M$ introduced Windows 3, they had to create version 3.1 because of
the problems. Even that had bugs so Windows 3.11 was introduced. The
same with M$ DOS 6, the eventual stable version was 6.22. The same with
Windows 98. That had to be followed by 98 version 2 (Second Edition) and
then version 3 (Millennium Edition). Centos is a lot more reliable but
there are usually some odd problems with a major upgrade.


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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 08/28/11 7:33 PM, ken wrote:
 Recently someone wrote that PAE related to i386 but was not required for
   x64. What CPU type is your target machine ?
 Broadly speaking it's a pentium i686, but without pae.  The fact that
 this machine is excluded from RH/CentOS doesn't bode well for Linux.

its late 2011, the world is finally moving to 64bit as the primary 
platform.this doesn't bode well for your old 32bit-only CPU.a 
32bit only CPU can no longer be considered enterprise grade.



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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 Media problems

2011-08-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 08/28/11 8:37 PM, Always Learning wrote:
 The i686 is an i386 32 bit CPU and needs PAE to address more than 64 GB.

it needs PAE to address more than 4GB



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