[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1540 CentOS 5 x86_64 fetchmail FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1540 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1540.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
aa32db6aba1d32a0ae56c37badfe09f7  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
c44fbc93aefde7ec2543c23eb6ee93ae  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1540 CentOS 5 i386 fetchmail FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1540 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1540.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
2507fff28c20e90fe63d6efe3081fca6  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
c44fbc93aefde7ec2543c23eb6ee93ae  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1541 CentOS 5 i386 lftp FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1541 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1541.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
d78d59c9a54a451849590ed78743436f  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
2a10aabe55f01b9c947cdb9b6b6e713a  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1541 CentOS 5 x86_64 lftp FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1541 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1541.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
dd05e1f25e71fec0b203d17179310aec  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
2a10aabe55f01b9c947cdb9b6b6e713a  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1538 CentOS 5 i386 libXcursor FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1538 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1538.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
2057f8c5c492114cf27ea5744f41dcf3  libXcursor-1.1.7-1.2.i386.rpm
723e58211820875f3b83b2afa773e57a  libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.2.i386.rpm

Source:
7cf2109085ba04acb9dfd4de5a0cd9a7  libXcursor-1.1.7-1.2.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1538 CentOS 5 x86_64 libXcursor FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1538 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1538.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
2057f8c5c492114cf27ea5744f41dcf3  libXcursor-1.1.7-1.2.i386.rpm
c5a6dd357c1357658bd542357630d5ad  libXcursor-1.1.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm
723e58211820875f3b83b2afa773e57a  libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.2.i386.rpm
27ae312e73d84b16c9d843c43482e6bc  libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm

Source:
7cf2109085ba04acb9dfd4de5a0cd9a7  libXcursor-1.1.7-1.2.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1539 CentOS 5 i386 amanda FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1539 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1539.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
26faeaceb119c3b27d50abf8c55c7da5  amanda-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm
0220489340c703613394ec0ff19f000a  amanda-client-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm
e70adf3e2093a9984f35f8b16170b0ef  amanda-devel-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm
aaace16f62d74f5ce486cc39e3324076  amanda-server-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
723a67250c24e04213aa9d7ef1bf493f  amanda-2.5.0p2-9.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1539 CentOS 5 x86_64 amanda FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1539 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1539.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
26faeaceb119c3b27d50abf8c55c7da5  amanda-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm
5ced8d685aba893883dcb15bf1955cb3  amanda-2.5.0p2-9.el5.x86_64.rpm
3f3e3b4da4e779db6c577f4ce303c311  amanda-client-2.5.0p2-9.el5.x86_64.rpm
e70adf3e2093a9984f35f8b16170b0ef  amanda-devel-2.5.0p2-9.el5.i386.rpm
9f9455bac64d60525ee6d8502b705d1d  amanda-devel-2.5.0p2-9.el5.x86_64.rpm
1017b6f42a92ddc67bd6980f6f2f92fc  amanda-server-2.5.0p2-9.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
723a67250c24e04213aa9d7ef1bf493f  amanda-2.5.0p2-9.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1537 CentOS 5 i386 gamin FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1537 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1537.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
c1d3e3aabb0ed7a5b4075f7e8b92c754  gamin-0.1.7-10.el5.i386.rpm
0c79b50d22db525bdcd84a3830852f48  gamin-devel-0.1.7-10.el5.i386.rpm
d4aa8b3c261e5a382e19960094a56277  gamin-python-0.1.7-10.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
2321c5cb779ba35b573dc349cc29921e  gamin-0.1.7-10.el5.src.rpm


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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1537 CentOS 5 x86_64 gamin FASTTRACK Update

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes

CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1537 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1537.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
c1d3e3aabb0ed7a5b4075f7e8b92c754  gamin-0.1.7-10.el5.i386.rpm
267711af9d6842a4002fd768650cc71c  gamin-0.1.7-10.el5.x86_64.rpm
0c79b50d22db525bdcd84a3830852f48  gamin-devel-0.1.7-10.el5.i386.rpm
31be5061a0e16c5194df7d8e65d89e7a  gamin-devel-0.1.7-10.el5.x86_64.rpm
c2e31701c576abdd599f85864f800550  gamin-python-0.1.7-10.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
2321c5cb779ba35b573dc349cc29921e  gamin-0.1.7-10.el5.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread Rob Kampen

Rob Kampen wrote:

Hi List,
I've been getting the following EDAC memory errors
EDAC MC0: CE page 0xeb0dd, offset 0x0, grain 4096, syndrome 0x45, row 
3, channel 0, label : i82875p CE

and from this seeing that these errors have been corrected.
Checking cat /sys/devices/system/edac/mc/mc0/csrow3/ch0_ce_count gives 
me a count of 4

thus I now know that csrow3 - ch0 is the problem

My question is, how does this map to the on board labels
DIMM 1A
DIMM 1B
DIMM 2A
DIMM 2B

Am I correct in assuming csrow 3 is DIMM 2B?
Swapped the memory between DIMM 2A and DIMM 2B - still get fault in row 
3, channel 0 - thus did not move with the RAM??

Next reboot I'll try swapping 1A and 1B


Also I have just discovered that both the OS drives sda and sdb have 
huge number of errors shown on the SMART records

- can this relate to the memory errors??
- I am just really surprised to have two drives show almost identical 
number of errors at the same time, yet no apparent data errors - 
Drives are ATA ST380013AS 74.53 GB
Just for safety I swapped /dev/sda with a new slightly larger drive did 
the sfdisk foo and added it to the md raid drives.
This brand new drive immediately shows high raw read error rate and 
hardware ECC recovered in the tens of millions - I think this is not a 
drive issue but related to the ECC mem errors??

Anyone with experience?

TIA for your insightful comments


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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 12:17 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
 Swapped the memory between DIMM 2A and DIMM 2B - still get fault in 
 row 3, channel 0 - thus did not move with the RAM??
 Next reboot I'll try swapping 1A and 1B 

often an indication the problem is board/socket related rather than 
memory DIMM.  unless its the other pair you didn't swap.

 Also I have just discovered that both the OS drives sda and sdb have 
 huge number of errors shown on the SMART records
 - can this relate to the memory errors??
 - I am just really surprised to have two drives show almost identical 
 number of errors at the same time, yet no apparent data errors - 
 Drives are ATA ST380013AS 74.53 GB

 Just for safety I swapped /dev/sda with a new slightly larger drive 
 did the sfdisk foo and added it to the md raid drives.
 This brand new drive immediately shows high raw read er

hmmm.  no, they shouldn't be remotely related.   unless its something 
else, like a power supply with noisy or out of spec voltage(s).

80GB 3.5 SATA drives?   aren't those kind of old?   like, ancient ?   
looked up that PN, thats a Baracuda 7200.7 from circa 2003-2005.
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/sata/cuda7200_sata_pm.pdf

those are past their shelf date.


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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread Rob Kampen

John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/05/11 12:17 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
  
Swapped the memory between DIMM 2A and DIMM 2B - still get fault in 
row 3, channel 0 - thus did not move with the RAM??
Next reboot I'll try swapping 1A and 1B 



often an indication the problem is board/socket related rather than 
memory DIMM.  unless its the other pair you didn't swap.


  
Also I have just discovered that both the OS drives sda and sdb have 
huge number of errors shown on the SMART records

- can this relate to the memory errors??
- I am just really surprised to have two drives show almost identical 
number of errors at the same time, yet no apparent data errors - 
Drives are ATA ST380013AS 74.53 GB


Just for safety I swapped /dev/sda with a new slightly larger drive 
did the sfdisk foo and added it to the md raid drives.

This brand new drive immediately shows high raw read er



hmmm.  no, they shouldn't be remotely related.   unless its something 
else, like a power supply with noisy or out of spec voltage(s).


80GB 3.5 SATA drives?   aren't those kind of old?   like, ancient ?   
looked up that PN, thats a Baracuda 7200.7 from circa 2003-2005.

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/sata/cuda7200_sata_pm.pdf

those are past their shelf date.

  
Yes Christmas 2004 - never a problem until one of the md raid sets 
dropped out today.
However I put a brand new - never used 120G drive in and it too shows 
these errors - something doesn't seem right
Getting too tired to think straight so I'll leave it limping along until 
tomorrow

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Re: [CentOS] external usb hard drve not detected by centos 5

2011-12-05 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Michel Donais wrote:
 What does dmesg says when you plug it in?

 Here it is

 ahc_pci:0:8:0: Illegal cable configuration!!. Only two connectors on the
 adapter may be used at a time!

this looks suspect
try googling for it

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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Rob Kampen wrote:
 John R Pierce wrote:
 On 12/05/11 12:17 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
 Swapped the memory between DIMM 2A and DIMM 2B - still get fault in
 row 3, channel 0 - thus did not move with the RAM??
 Next reboot I'll try swapping 1A and 1B

 often an indication the problem is board/socket related rather than
 memory DIMM. unless its the other pair you didn't swap.

 Also I have just discovered that both the OS drives sda and sdb have
 huge number of errors shown on the SMART records
 - can this relate to the memory errors??
 - I am just really surprised to have two drives show almost identical
 number of errors at the same time, yet no apparent data errors -
 Drives are ATA ST380013AS 74.53 GB

 Just for safety I swapped /dev/sda with a new slightly larger drive
 did the sfdisk foo and added it to the md raid drives.
 This brand new drive immediately shows high raw read er

 hmmm. no, they shouldn't be remotely related. unless its something
 else, like a power supply with noisy or out of spec voltage(s).

as John suggests, I think it sounds like a tired PSU
try swapping it if you have a spare
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 01:33 AM, Phil Dobbin piše:
 By co-incidence, as Beartooth posted earlier, I also tried to install CentOS
 6 on a ThinkPad but it wouldn't take. I used to have a copy of a CentOS 5.7
 Live CD  that worked O.K. on an old Pentium IV i386 so I'm hoping it'll
 work on the ThinkPad. Odd really. The ThinkPad has twice the RAM of the
 Pentium  they're great laptops...


What does it wouldn't take means? Can you give us some better idea? 
details.
Could it be just a graphic mode?
Did you try to change kernel parameters?
Was there any error shown?

What were exact models involved so we can see hardware involved?

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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 10:24 AM, Rob Kampen piše:
 However I put a brand new - never used 120G drive in and it too shows
 these errors - something doesn't seem right
 Getting too tired to think straight so I'll leave it limping along until
 tomorrow
 Thanks for thoughts

Download Hiren's BootCD and use bundled Memory Test if your way is 
complicated.

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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 2:57 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Download Hiren's BootCD and use bundled Memory Test if your way is
 complicated.

that won't do much to detect soft ECC errors, will it?



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Re: [CentOS] Intel SE7210TP1-E giving memory errors

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 12:00 PM, John R Pierce piše:
 On 12/05/11 2:57 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Download Hiren's BootCD and use bundled Memory Test if your way is
 complicated.

 that won't do much to detect soft ECC errors, will it?


They are (there are 4-5 apps) checking various patterns in memory (write 
then read), and you can run it for a longer period of time.

As for ECC errors I can not say, I never ever used ECC memory or got 
familiar with it.


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Re: [CentOS] Booting C 6.0 from C 5.7

2011-12-05 Thread Rilindo Foster
Somebody could correct me, but if the installed Centos install is on a ext4 
file system, then the installed version of grub needs to support it. Which 
version of grub are you running and from which distro?

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On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net wrote:

 Despite using the usually successful methods of booting into another
 operating system from C 5.7, I can't get into C 6.0
 
 Tried:-
 
 title C6-0 (2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64)
 
rootnoverify (hd0,6)
chainloader +1
 
 and
 
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64 ro
 root=UUID=67c62872-0c69-451c-8412-3c218c0d2cb0 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM
 rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk
initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64.img
 
 
 
 The GRUB error is:-
 
 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable format
 
 This error is returned if the kernel image being loaded is not
 recognized as Multiboot or one of the supported native formats (Linux
 zImage or bzImage, FreeBSD, or NetBSD).
 
 
 Bewildered.
 
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 5/12/11 10:53, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:

 What does it wouldn't take means? Can you give us some better idea?
 details.
 Could it be just a graphic mode?
 Did you try to change kernel parameters?
 Was there any error shown?
 
 What were exact models involved so we can see hardware involved?

The exact details were that I loaded the CentOS 6 Live CD  when it finally
came to the desktop there were no menus, no trackpad interaction  no input
facilities at all. Had to shut down via the power button.

After that I decided to use 5.6 or 5.7 because I knew they worked. I didn't
go any further on troubleshooting the issue with v.6 because I'm on a tight
schedule at the moment work-wise. I'm using for CentOS a Lenovo IBM ThinkPad
T42 1.7 GHz i386 Centrino with 1GB of RAM  a 40GB hard drive.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/05/2011 09:08 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
 On 5/12/11 10:53, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 
 What does it wouldn't take means? Can you give us some better idea?
 details.
 Could it be just a graphic mode?
 Did you try to change kernel parameters?
 Was there any error shown?

 What were exact models involved so we can see hardware involved?
 
 The exact details were that I loaded the CentOS 6 Live CD  when it finally
 came to the desktop there were no menus, no trackpad interaction  no input
 facilities at all. Had to shut down via the power button.
 
 After that I decided to use 5.6 or 5.7 because I knew they worked. I didn't
 go any further on troubleshooting the issue with v.6 because I'm on a tight
 schedule at the moment work-wise. I'm using for CentOS a Lenovo IBM ThinkPad
 T42 1.7 GHz i386 Centrino with 1GB of RAM  a 40GB hard drive.

I think that if you yum install the CR repo, it will likely work OK on
the Thinkpad ... at least one of our devels uses a think pad and it
works for him.  Though, I do not know the exact thinkpad version he has.



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Re: [CentOS] Booting C 6.0 from C 5.7

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 04:05 PM, Rilindo Foster piše:
 Somebody could correct me, but if the installed Centos install is on a ext4 
 file system, then the installed version of grub needs to support it. Which 
 version of grub are you running and from which distro?


No, chainloader +1 just passes the Active partition info. I had 2 
CentOS 5 systems that booted CentOS 6.0 with chainloader +1.


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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:53:29 +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Vreme: 12/05/2011 01:33 AM, Phil Dobbin piše:
 By co-incidence, as Beartooth posted earlier, I also tried to install
 CentOS 6 on a ThinkPad but it wouldn't take. I used to have a copy of a
 CentOS 5.7 Live CD  that worked O.K. on an old Pentium IV i386 so I'm
 hoping it'll work on the ThinkPad. Odd really. The ThinkPad has twice
 the RAM of the Pentium  they're great laptops...


 What does it wouldn't take means? Can you give us some better idea?
 details.
 Could it be just a graphic mode?
 Did you try to change kernel parameters? Was there any error shown?
 
 What were exact models involved so we can see hardware involved?

I have news that may be relevant. After I wiped my refurbished 
IBM T42 Thinkpad with DBAN, I tried the live DVD+R for CentOS 6.0 that 
had worked on my old PC. It failed yet again -- but this time the error 
message is different.

It says This kernel requires the following features not present 
on the CPU: pae  Unable to boot -- please use a kernel appropriate for 
your CPU.

I don't even know how to tell what kernel a prospective download 
has. I do know that some of my other PCs list kernels with and without 
PAE in the grub display.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 12/05/2011 04:52 PM, Beartooth wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:53:29 +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Vreme: 12/05/2011 01:33 AM, Phil Dobbin piše:
 By co-incidence, as Beartooth posted earlier, I also tried to install
 CentOS 6 on a ThinkPad but it wouldn't take. I used to have a copy of a
 CentOS 5.7 Live CD   that worked O.K. on an old Pentium IV i386 so I'm
 hoping it'll work on the ThinkPad. Odd really. The ThinkPad has twice
 the RAM of the Pentium   they're great laptops...


 What does it wouldn't take means? Can you give us some better idea?
 details.
 Could it be just a graphic mode?
 Did you try to change kernel parameters? Was there any error shown?

 What were exact models involved so we can see hardware involved?

   I have news that may be relevant. After I wiped my refurbished
 IBM T42 Thinkpad with DBAN, I tried the live DVD+R for CentOS 6.0 that
 had worked on my old PC. It failed yet again -- but this time the error
 message is different.

   It says This kernel requires the following features not present
 on the CPU: pae  Unable to boot -- please use a kernel appropriate for
 your CPU.

   I don't even know how to tell what kernel a prospective download
 has. I do know that some of my other PCs list kernels with and without
 PAE in the grub display.

PAE means physical address extension and allows 32bit cpus to make use of 
memory beyond the 4gb limit addressable with 32bit.

Centos/RHEL 6 doesn't support cpus without this as it's hard to come by a 
machine these days that doesn't have this extension.

So basically your hardware is too old to run Centos 6.

Regards,
   Dennis
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
denni...@conversis.de wrote:
 On 12/05/2011 04:52 PM, Beartooth wrote:

       I don't even know how to tell what kernel a prospective download
 has. I do know that some of my other PCs list kernels with and without
 PAE in the grub display.

 PAE means physical address extension and allows 32bit cpus to make use of
 memory beyond the 4gb limit addressable with 32bit.

 Centos/RHEL 6 doesn't support cpus without this as it's hard to come by a
 machine these days that doesn't have this extension.

FYI, the ELRepo project now provides kernel-ml for EL6 [1] that
includes a non-PAE kernel [2] (thanks to Alan Bartlett). However, one
has to create an install disk/image with that kernel to perform the
installation.

Akemi

[1] http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml
[2] http://elrepo.org/linux/kernel/el6/i386/RPMS/
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:03:12 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
[]
 PAE means physical address extension and allows 32bit cpus to make use
 of memory beyond the 4gb limit addressable with 32bit.
 
 Centos/RHEL 6 doesn't support cpus without this as it's hard to come by
 a machine these days that doesn't have this extension.
 
 So basically your hardware is too old to run Centos 6.

Aaarrghh! And also Rats! The T42 is my *newer* laptop. (I admit I 
seldom do much with either; but one or the other always lives in the 
guest room for the convenience of anyone who may be visiting without.) 
Sounds like I better go check whether Omega Linux is still current 

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Re: [CentOS] Sources for extras??

2011-12-05 Thread m . roth
Beartooth wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:00:07 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 09:49:12PM +, Beartooth wrote:
No package dillo available.
No package epiphany available.
No package galeon available.
No package midori available.
No package privoxy available.
No package seamonkey available.
Error: Nothing to do
snip
   How odd! Dillo in particular is both faster and safer than any
 other browser I know of. So I make it my default -- and think twice about
 any site it refuses to deal with.

Hmm... maybe I should look at it, rather than the way everyone pushes
chrome at me
snip
   And what do CentOS people do for a newsreader? I can't get by
 without Gmane  How about a proxy??

knode (KDE app) works jes' fine for newsreading, and of course t-bird
works, also (though I far prefer knode's key bindings).

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread m . roth
Beartooth wrote:
 On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:53:29 +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

 Vreme: 12/05/2011 01:33 AM, Phil Dobbin piše:
 By co-incidence, as Beartooth posted earlier, I also tried to install
 CentOS 6 on a ThinkPad but it wouldn't take. I used to have a copy of a
 CentOS 5.7 Live CD  that worked O.K. on an old Pentium IV i386 so I'm
 hoping it'll work on the ThinkPad. Odd really. The ThinkPad has twice
 the RAM of the Pentium  they're great laptops...
snip
   I have news that may be relevant. After I wiped my refurbished
 IBM T42 Thinkpad with DBAN, I tried the live DVD+R for CentOS 6.0 that
 had worked on my old PC. It failed yet again -- but this time the error
 message is different.

   It says This kernel requires the following features not present
 on the CPU: pae  Unable to boot -- please use a kernel appropriate for
 your CPU.

Ok, so when grub tell you what it's going to boot, hit e, then choose
the non-PAE kernel, and see what happens. Not sure why it installed a PAE
kernel, if it can't boot it
snip
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Re: [CentOS] Sources for extras??

2011-12-05 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:00:07 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 09:49:12PM +, Beartooth wrote:
No package dillo available.
No package epiphany available.
No package galeon available.
No package midori available.
No package privoxy available.
No package seamonkey available.
Error: Nothing to do
 
 None of these is packaged by any reputable 3rd party repo that I can
 see; privoxy used to be in base but upstream dropped it in EL6.
 
 It may be possible to rebuild the fedora versions but I greatly suspect
 that there will be a significant issue with the necessary dependencies
 for most of those apps.

How odd! Dillo in particular is both faster and safer than any 
other browser I know of. So I make it my default -- and think twice about 
any site it refuses to deal with.

How about Arora, Kazehakase,and Rekonq? Yum doesn't get them, 
either.

And what do CentOS people do for a newsreader? I can't get by 
without Gmane  How about a proxy??

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:53:30 +
From: Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1540 CentOS 5 x86_64 fetchmail
FASTTRACK Update
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Message-ID: 20111205135330.ga3...@chakra.karan.org
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1540 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1540.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
aa32db6aba1d32a0ae56c37badfe09f7  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
c44fbc93aefde7ec2543c23eb6ee93ae  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.src.rpm


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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1540 CentOS 5 i386 fetchmail
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1540 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1540.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
2507fff28c20e90fe63d6efe3081fca6  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
c44fbc93aefde7ec2543c23eb6ee93ae  fetchmail-6.3.6-4.el5.src.rpm


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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:55:07 +
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1541 CentOS 5 i386 lftp FASTTRACK
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1541 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1541.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
d78d59c9a54a451849590ed78743436f  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
2a10aabe55f01b9c947cdb9b6b6e713a  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.src.rpm


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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2011:1541 CentOS 5 x86_64 lftp
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2011:1541 

Upstream details at : http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-1541.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
dd05e1f25e71fec0b203d17179310aec  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
2a10aabe55f01b9c947cdb9b6b6e713a  lftp-3.7.11-7.el5.src.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] Sources for extras??

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 05:20 PM, Beartooth piše:
 On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:00:07 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 09:49:12PM +, Beartooth wrote:
 No package dillo available.
 No package epiphany available.
 No package galeon available.
 No package midori available.
 No package privoxy available.
 No package seamonkey available.
 Error: Nothing to do

 None of these is packaged by any reputable 3rd party repo that I can
 see; privoxy used to be in base but upstream dropped it in EL6.

 It may be possible to rebuild the fedora versions but I greatly suspect
 that there will be a significant issue with the necessary dependencies
 for most of those apps.

   How odd! Dillo in particular is both faster and safer than any
 other browser I know of. So I make it my default -- and think twice about
 any site it refuses to deal with.

   How about Arora, Kazehakase,and Rekonq? Yum doesn't get them,
 either.

   And what do CentOS people do for a newsreader? I can't get by
 without Gmane  How about a proxy??


You are special case user, not many even heard of those apps, let alone 
use them.

Thunderbird is decent news reader. There is rather old version in base 
repo and 8.0.1 in Remi's repository (I am glad he decided to package 
them for EL 6 also, I had to rebuild his packages my self for my own repo).

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 8:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Ok, so when grub tell you what it's going to boot, hite, then choose
 the non-PAE kernel, and see what happens. Not sure why it installed a PAE
 kernel, if it can't boot it

I thought CentOS6 didn't come with a non-PAE kernel, more specifically, 
the standard 32bit kernel requires PAE even if it doesnt have PAE in its 
name.

c6 systems really should be 64bit native, anyways.  32bit is fading into 
history.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote:
 On 12/05/11 8:17 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Ok, so when grub tell you what it's going to boot, hite, then choose
 the non-PAE kernel, and see what happens. Not sure why it installed a
 PAE kernel, if it can't boot it

 I thought CentOS6 didn't come with a non-PAE kernel, more specifically,
 the standard 32bit kernel requires PAE even if it doesnt have PAE in its
 name.

I hadn't followed that development. *sigh*

 c6 systems really should be 64bit native, anyways.  32bit is fading into
 history.

I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what they
have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's laptops

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 11:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
 years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what they
 have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's laptops

then they should stick with older software.


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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 5/12/11 19:11, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 12/05/11 11:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
 years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what they
 have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's laptops
 
 then they should stick with older software.

Not really reflective of the spirit of open source software...

Cheers,

Phil...

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Phil Dobbin phildob...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
 years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what they
 have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's laptops

 then they should stick with older software.

 Not really reflective of the spirit of open source software...


You mean you don't think there are enough current choices?   Visit
http://www.distrowatch.com...  Or do you think they _all_ have to
support every possible device?

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 11:47 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Phil Dobbinphildob...@gmail.com  wrote:
   I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
   years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what 
  they
   have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's laptops
   then they should stick with older software.
   Not really reflective of the spirit of open source software...
 You mean you don't think there are enough current choices?   Visit
 http://www.distrowatch.com...  Or do you think they_all_  have to
 support every possible device?

indeed, that was my point.  its silly to expect the latest release of 
ENTERPRISE LINUX, a distribution clearly targeted at servers, to have to 
support every funky old box end users can throw at it.

CentOS6 works freekin' awesome on a HP DL180G6 with dual Xeon X5660's, 
48GB ram, and a SAS raid10 of 20 x 15000 rpm 146GB drives Seeing 
over 6000 transactions/second sustained from postgresql's pgbench with 
sufficient threads and workload multipliers.   My circa 2004 Dell 
Latitude D600 Dothan (Pentium-M) laptop?   I wouldn't even bother to try.


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[CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Timothy Madden
Hello

I have set up NAT with iptables for an openvpn connection, so that the 
VPN server could give VPN clients access to the entire sub-net of the 
server.

The probelm is if I start system-config-securitylevel to say disable the 
firewall, and then again to enable it, my iptable rules are gone !

I did run `service iptables save` before.

Is there something I can do to prevent this ? Is there a gui interface 
to enable NAT over a VPN connection that cooperates with 
system-config-network ?

Thank you,
Timothy Madden

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread m . roth
Phil Dobbin wrote:
 On 5/12/11 19:11, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 12/05/11 11:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 I guarantee that there'll be 32 bit systems for a minimum of 10 more
 years. Esp. in the current depression, everyone will hang onto what
 they have until the boxen die, or look to die. And then there's
 laptops

 then they should stick with older software.

 Not really reflective of the spirit of open source software...

Nor of the whole spirit of Linux, IMO. I always tell folks how it runs on
*everything*

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 05, 2011 02:56:18 PM John R Pierce wrote:
 indeed, that was my point.  its silly to expect the latest release of 
 ENTERPRISE LINUX, a distribution clearly targeted at servers, to have to 
 support every funky old box end users can throw at it.

If EL6 is targeted at servers, why does upstream have not one but two desktop 
oriented SKU's?  This 'EL is a server OS' meme is ludicrous, as EL6 is a 
fantastic desktop/workstation OS.

 My circa 2004 Dell 
 Latitude D600 Dothan (Pentium-M) laptop?   I wouldn't even bother to try.

You know, I don't exactly agree with that.  The D600 (and D610) are still 
relatively useful laptops that, with the right desktop environment, can perform 
quite well, especially with the 2.0GHz Pentium M and 2GB of RAM (which can be 
had).  I would dare say that for most things a 2GHz Pentium M would perform 
nearly as well as a Core 2 Duo at the same clock with the same amount of RAM, 
and will outperform a P4 or Netburst Xeon at 3GHz.  That is, in terms of 
single-threaded performance, that D600 with a 2GHz Pentium M will run 
comparably to a Dell Precision 650/670/690 with one single-core 3GHz Xeon, 
especially if the D600 has a 7200RPM drive and the good nVidia graphics.  

Heh, if you want rid of that D600 I know a non-profit that will be glad to have 
you donate it

Intel's not putting PAE in that era of Pentium M is one of those odd things; my 
older Dell Latitude C-series with a 1.8Ghz P4 can run the PAE kernel just fine, 
but the much faster D610 with the 2GHz Pentium M can't?  Something odd with 
that picture.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/05/11 12:34 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
 Intel's not putting PAE in that era of Pentium M is one of those odd things; 
 my older Dell Latitude C-series with a 1.8Ghz P4 can run the PAE kernel just 
 fine, but the much faster D610 with the 2GHz Pentium M can't?  Something odd 
 with that picture.

the chipset doesn't support over 2GB ram.  the Pentium-M was based on 
the Pentium-III core, which afaik didn't have PAE.   /me shrugs.   They 
added it back in for the Core family.




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Re: [CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Fajar Priyanto


Dec 6, 2011 4:32 AM Timothy Madden terminato...@gmail.com 작성:

 Hello
 
 I have set up NAT with iptables for an openvpn connection, so that the 
 VPN server could give VPN clients access to the entire sub-net of the 
 server.
 
 The probelm is if I start system-config-securitylevel to say disable the 
 firewall, and then again to enable it, my iptable rules are gone !
 
 I did run `service iptables save` before.
 
 Is there something I can do to prevent this ? Is there a gui interface 
 to enable NAT over a VPN connection that cooperates with 
 system-config-network ?
 
You mean system-config-securitylevel?
It's pretty useless. Pls take a look at Fwbuilder. 
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:

 My circa 2004 Dell
 Latitude D600 Dothan (Pentium-M) laptop?   I wouldn't even bother to try.

 You know, I don't exactly agree with that.  The D600 (and D610) are still 
 relatively useful laptops that, with the right desktop environment, can 
 perform quite well, especially with the 2.0GHz Pentium M and 2GB of RAM 
 (which can be had).  I would dare say that for most things a 2GHz Pentium M 
 would perform nearly as well as a Core 2 Duo at the same clock with the same 
 amount of RAM, and will outperform a P4 or Netburst Xeon at 3GHz.

Ummm, no.  I had a D610 and now have an already-aging D630 with a Core
2 Duo.  There's a big difference, and of course the D630 can run
VMware with 64-bit guests.

But back to the 'spirit of open source' - I thought that meant that if
you didn't like it you could fix it yourself.   And I thought someone
had already done a non-PAE kernel or was working on it to make
PXE-booted thin clients work.   So if you want it bad enough it should
be a matter of figuring out how to get it installed.

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Re: [CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Timothy Madden terminato...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello

 I have set up NAT with iptables for an openvpn connection, so that the
 VPN server could give VPN clients access to the entire sub-net of the
 server.

 The probelm is if I start system-config-securitylevel to say disable the
 firewall, and then again to enable it, my iptable rules are gone !

 I did run `service iptables save` before.

 Is there something I can do to prevent this ? Is there a gui interface
 to enable NAT over a VPN connection that cooperates with
 system-config-network ?


Not sure what the GUI tool does (I'd assume it clears iptables if you
tell it to disable the firewall...) but 'service iptables save' writes
a file named iptables in /etc/sysconfig that you should be able to
back up somewhere.  However, a normal 'service iptables stop'  which
will happen in a shutdown/reboot, etc. will also overwrite that file.

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Re: [CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/05/2011 09:32 PM, Timothy Madden piše:
 Hello

 I have set up NAT with iptables for an openvpn connection, so that the
 VPN server could give VPN clients access to the entire sub-net of the
 server.

 The probelm is if I start system-config-securitylevel to say disable the
 firewall, and then again to enable it, my iptable rules are gone !

 I did run `service iptables save` before.

 Is there something I can do to prevent this ? Is there a gui interface
 to enable NAT over a VPN connection that cooperates with
 system-config-network ?

Just stop the firewall via service iptables stop like any service, and 
start it again in the same manner.

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Re: [CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 05.12.2011 22:00, schrieb Les Mikesell:

 Not sure what the GUI tool does (I'd assume it clears iptables if you
 tell it to disable the firewall...) but 'service iptables save' writes
 a file named iptables in /etc/sysconfig that you should be able to
 back up somewhere.  However, a normal 'service iptables stop'  which
 will happen in a shutdown/reboot, etc. will also overwrite that file.

no it does not

since my first begin with linux i generate iptables-rules with shells-cripts
calling service iptables save at the end and stop iptables will NEVER
touch this rules

do not touch any of this gui's, learn to write the rules by yourself
and you are much more flexible and it tokk me not more than two hours
to write my script after swicth to fedora

in the meantime it is in production-use on  20 servers, manage all this
servers with if-$HOSTNAME bloks and will be used for routing, prot-forwarind,
blocking of unwanted subnets and many other things

the big beenfit is you can star a new machine with copy this script, modife
it at your needs and knowing exactly what happens



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[CentOS] LPR to windows lpd question

2011-12-05 Thread Tharun Kumar Allu
Hi All,
I am trying to print from a CentOS 5.3 server to a windows LPD
service. After enabling the LPD service on Windows and creating a LPR
port to a particular printer when I execute the following command on
CentOS server I do not come out.
lpr -H winprint:515 -P printer1  file.txt

The above command does not exit. Do I need to configure anything on
the server to be able to use lpr as a client ?
Ultimately I want to use the above command to print to various
printers based on different parameters.

On a different note when I execute the same command on Fedora 14 I get
Unknown as the error.

Thanks
Tharun
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Re: [CentOS] LPR to windows lpd question

2011-12-05 Thread m . roth
Tharun Kumar Allu wrote:
 Hi All,
 I am trying to print from a CentOS 5.3 server to a windows LPD
 service. After enabling the LPD service on Windows and creating a LPR
 port to a particular printer when I execute the following command on
 CentOS server I do not come out.
 lpr -H winprint:515 -P printer1  file.txt

 The above command does not exit. Do I need to configure anything on
 the server to be able to use lpr as a client ?
 Ultimately I want to use the above command to print to various
 printers based on different parameters.

 On a different note when I execute the same command on Fedora 14 I get
 Unknown as the error.

Have you checked CUPS? http://localhost:631

   mark

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Re: [CentOS] How to preserve iptables when running the GUI tool ?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 Not sure what the GUI tool does (I'd assume it clears iptables if you
 tell it to disable the firewall...) but 'service iptables save' writes
 a file named iptables in /etc/sysconfig that you should be able to
 back up somewhere.  However, a normal 'service iptables stop'  which
 will happen in a shutdown/reboot, etc. will also overwrite that file.

 no it does not

 since my first begin with linux i generate iptables-rules with shells-cripts
 calling service iptables save at the end and stop iptables will NEVER
 touch this rules

Hmmm, seems to be optional, depending how IPTABLES_SAVE_ON_STOP (etc.)
 is set in /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 5/12/11 20:52, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]

 But back to the 'spirit of open source' - I thought that meant that if
 you didn't like it you could fix it yourself.   And I thought someone
 had already done a non-PAE kernel or was working on it to make
 PXE-booted thin clients work.   So if you want it bad enough it should
 be a matter of figuring out how to get it installed.

 I did mention way back at the start of this thread, could anybody supply a
link to a Live CD of CentOS 5.6 so I could verify it would run on my machine
because v.6 wouldn't which somebody kindly did  also because of a tight
schedule at present, I couldn't explore any further options to make v.6 work
OMM...

Just I was a bit surprised at the attitude of if you haven't got/can't
afford xyz just stick with what you've got. Not sure Linus Torvalds had
that kind of thinking in mind when he approached this project. Maybe I'm
wrong...

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] LPR to windows lpd question

2011-12-05 Thread Tharun Kumar Allu
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:24 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Tharun Kumar Allu wrote:
 Hi All,
 I am trying to print from a CentOS 5.3 server to a windows LPD
 service. After enabling the LPD service on Windows and creating a LPR
 port to a particular printer when I execute the following command on
 CentOS server I do not come out.
 lpr -H winprint:515 -P printer1  file.txt

 The above command does not exit. Do I need to configure anything on
 the server to be able to use lpr as a client ?
 Ultimately I want to use the above command to print to various
 printers based on different parameters.

 On a different note when I execute the same command on Fedora 14 I get
 Unknown as the error.

 Have you checked CUPS? http://localhost:631

       mark


Yes. The whole idea I am trying to achieve is not to install any
printers on the server (if I can avoid) but use it as a client to
print through a windows LPD service.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Craig White

On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

 Just I was a bit surprised at the attitude of if you haven't got/can't
 afford xyz just stick with what you've got. Not sure Linus Torvalds had
 that kind of thinking in mind when he approached this project. Maybe I'm
 wrong...

well, if you had a system with a IA, PPC or a 586 processor, you would have 
understood how that logic works out. In reality though, it's not that Linux 
itself excludes it, it's that the upstream vendor has decided THEY weren't 
going to support it. In the past, CentOS has had some custom kernels that 
supported features/processors that the upstream vendor didn't but I think 
that's a lot of work for them to maintain on their own and their enthusiasm 
diminished over time.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Phil Dobbin phildob...@gmail.com wrote:


 Just I was a bit surprised at the attitude of if you haven't got/can't
 afford xyz just stick with what you've got. Not sure Linus Torvalds had
 that kind of thinking in mind when he approached this project. Maybe I'm
 wrong...

Go back and look at what he actually released and what he said when he
turned the project loose if you have any illusions that he thought
what he shipped was going to run on everything.   But this isn't about
Linux - it is about 'Enterprise Linux' as shipped/maintained by a
certain large company mostly concerned about customers paying for
support.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 05, 2011 03:48:12 PM John R Pierce wrote:
 the chipset doesn't support over 2GB ram.  the Pentium-M was based on 
 the Pentium-III core, which afaik didn't have PAE.   /me shrugs.   They 
 added it back in for the Core family.

That's the odd thing; PAE has been there since the Pentium Pro, so the P3 had 
it.  It seems that all x86 processors since the PPro, except for the 400MHz FSB 
Pentium M's, have PAE.

Oddly, the 2.0GHz Dothan is documented as having PAE; it's only the 400MHz FSB 
(Banias) ones that are documented as having PAE disabled.  The PAE feature 
apparently affects more than just the address space, at least according to the 
Pentium M Wikipedia article.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 05, 2011 03:52:11 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
  You know, I don't exactly agree with that.  The D600 (and D610) are still 
  relatively useful laptops that, with the right desktop environment, can 
  perform quite well, especially with the 2.0GHz Pentium M and 2GB of RAM
 Ummm, no.  I had a D610 and now have an already-aging D630 with a Core
 2 Duo.  There's a big difference, and of course the D630 can run
 VMware with 64-bit guests.

I have benchmarked a Dell Inspiron 640m with a 2.0GHz Core2Duo with 2GB of RAM 
against a Dell Latitude D610 with a 2.0GHz Pentium M with 2GB of RAM, using the 
same performing hard drive (as the D610 uses PATA, and the 640m uses SATA, I 
had to settle for 'same performance' and not 'identical drives') with the exact 
same OS (I literally cloned the 100GB drive in the D610 to a 100GB in the 640m 
and ran the same image) and found minimal performance differences in terms of 
responsiveness in normal use, doing one thing at a time.  It's only when doing 
multiple things, or doing multithreaded things, that the Core2Duo pulls away.

YMMV.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:

  You know, I don't exactly agree with that.  The D600 (and D610) are still 
  relatively useful laptops that, with the right desktop environment, can 
  perform quite well, especially with the 2.0GHz Pentium M and 2GB of RAM
 Ummm, no.  I had a D610 and now have an already-aging D630 with a Core
 2 Duo.  There's a big difference, and of course the D630 can run
 VMware with 64-bit guests.

 I have benchmarked a Dell Inspiron 640m with a 2.0GHz Core2Duo with 2GB of 
 RAM against a Dell Latitude D610 with a 2.0GHz Pentium M with 2GB of RAM, 
 using the same performing hard drive (as the D610 uses PATA, and the 640m 
 uses SATA, I had to settle for 'same performance' and not 'identical drives') 
 with the exact same OS (I literally cloned the 100GB drive in the D610 to a 
 100GB in the 640m and ran the same image) and found minimal performance 
 differences in terms of responsiveness in normal use, doing one thing at a 
 time.  It's only when doing multiple things, or doing multithreaded things, 
 that the Core2Duo pulls away.

OK, but who just runs a single process?  And 2GB RAM is kind of
minimal - I like lots of disk buffer.  If you don't have things in
cache, your 'responsiveness in normal use' is going to be dominated by
disk waits.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 05, 2011 06:02:27 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
 It's only when doing multiple things, or doing multithreaded things, that the
 Core2Duo pulls away.

 OK, but who just runs a single process?  

For the purposes of usability, effectively anyone who spends the day in 
Firefox.  And there are a lot of people for whom that is the case.  

 And 2GB RAM is kind of
 minimal - I like lots of disk buffer.  

What you like is irrelevant to the usefulness of 2GB of RAM to other people.

 If you don't have things in
 cache, your 'responsiveness in normal use' is going to be dominated by
 disk waits.

None of which negates the gist of the message, that a 2.0GHz Pentium M (and 
even a slower one) is still a usable machine. Nothing more; nothing less.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 05, 2011 11:11:45 AM Akemi Yagi wrote:
 FYI, the ELRepo project now provides kernel-ml for EL6 [1] that
 includes a non-PAE kernel [2] (thanks to Alan Bartlett). However, one
 has to create an install disk/image with that kernel to perform the
 installation.

This is good; thanks for the pointer.  Getting the install media built might be 
the only issue.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:

 It's only when doing multiple things, or doing multithreaded things, that 
 the
 Core2Duo pulls away.

 OK, but who just runs a single process?

 For the purposes of usability, effectively anyone who spends the day in 
 Firefox.  And there are a lot of people for whom that is the case.

Even there the tcp stack and filesystem operations should be mostly
running on a different core.

 And 2GB RAM is kind of
 minimal - I like lots of disk buffer.

 What you like is irrelevant to the usefulness of 2GB of RAM to other people.

It is very relevant to the performance they experience.

 If you don't have things in
 cache, your 'responsiveness in normal use' is going to be dominated by
 disk waits.

 None of which negates the gist of the message, that a 2.0GHz Pentium M (and 
 even a slower one) is still a usable machine. Nothing more; nothing less.

Nor my experience that a Core 2 Duo will save much human time and also
is able to run virtual machines that the pentium M can't. And  CentOS
5.x is still a usable OS, isn't it?

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
 And 2GB RAM is kind of
 minimal - I like lots of disk buffer.

 What you like is irrelevant to the usefulness of 2GB of RAM to other people.

Can you two stop your senseless arguing. We all already know none of you 
are going to back down. Just agree that you agree and be done with it.

Regular CentOS 6.x is not PAE enabled. There is kernel-ml in ElRepo that 
has non-PAE kernel enabled. It is 2.6.39-4, so it is not supported by 
upstream, but it will run CentOS Desktop version nicely.

I plan on releasing unofficial CentOS Desktop oriented LiveDVD with all 
the goodies like newest Firefox and ElRepo kernel modules for NIC's and 
wireless, and upgrade repository with missing or newer packages of 
Desktop applications in next week or two. I am sure I can produce 
unofficial LiveDVD with non-PAE kernel and so can others.

So CentOS will be unofficially coming to non-PAE CPU's soon I am sure, 
and who knows, it might become official CentOS project is maintainers 
show up.

Thank you for understanding us others on this mailing list.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.1 .iso size?

2011-12-05 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 00:58 +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
  And 2GB RAM is kind of
  minimal - I like lots of disk buffer.
 
  What you like is irrelevant to the usefulness of 2GB of RAM to other 
  people.
 
 Can you two stop your senseless arguing. We all already know none of you 
 are going to back down. Just agree that you agree and be done with it.

sorry but I don't agree. They are 2 very knowledgeable Linux users that
never resort to personal attacks and clearly there is something to be
learned by reading. Of course the option is there to just delete them if
you are uninterested.

 
 Regular CentOS 6.x is not PAE enabled. There is kernel-ml in ElRepo that 
 has non-PAE kernel enabled. It is 2.6.39-4, so it is not supported by 
 upstream, but it will run CentOS Desktop version nicely.

I gather you have gone into full speculation mode since the only way you
could install it on a computer that doesn't support PAE is to create a
new installer disc (ie anaconda) uses this kernel throughout. Then
there's the issue of installing an OS that depends upon a specific
resource who remains engaged in the process to update. Sounds like a
formula for a lot of frustration whose success will reward a relatively
limited life.

 I plan on releasing unofficial CentOS Desktop oriented LiveDVD with all 
 the goodies like newest Firefox and ElRepo kernel modules for NIC's and 
 wireless, and upgrade repository with missing or newer packages of 
 Desktop applications in next week or two. I am sure I can produce 
 unofficial LiveDVD with non-PAE kernel and so can others.
 
 So CentOS will be unofficially coming to non-PAE CPU's soon I am sure, 
 and who knows, it might become official CentOS project is maintainers 
 show up.
 
 Thank you for understanding us others on this mailing list.

good luck

Craig


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