Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/10/11 8:56 PM, Ryan Wagoner wrote:
>> So 2 questions :
>> >  - how important is it to have it on its own network?
>> >  - is it OK to use an unmanaged switch (as long as it is Gigabit), or are
>> >  there some features of a managed switch that are desirable/required with
>> >  iSCSI?
>> >
> At the very least keep the iSCSI traffic on its own vlan. You don't want
> unnecessary broadcast traffic on your storage network. I would also stay
> away from unmanaged switches. You want a higher end switch that supports
> cut through mode. Store and forward will cause higher latency.

and, yet another reason to isolate iSCSI to a dedicated SAN segment is 
that its normally uses rather minimal security, just using the server's 
IP address for the host masking.  yes, it can be used with higher levels 
of security at the expense of increased complexity, but if its on its 
own dedicated network, this is sufficient.



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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Alan McKay  wrote:

> So 2 questions :
> - how important is it to have it on its own network?
> - is it OK to use an unmanaged switch (as long as it is Gigabit), or are
> there some features of a managed switch that are desirable/required with
> iSCSI?
>

At the very least keep the iSCSI traffic on its own vlan. You don't want
unnecessary broadcast traffic on your storage network. I would also stay
away from unmanaged switches. You want a higher end switch that supports
cut through mode. Store and forward will cause higher latency.

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache [SOLVED]

2011-12-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/10/2011 09:32 PM, Weplica piše:
>
> I think RSA key was the problem, It's not secure remove pass phrase,
> so I have disable Apache on init as service and each time I reboot I
> start it whith the RSA key.
>

Check this out:
http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/auto-insert-password-for-a-trusted-ssl-certificate-automatically-enter-password-for-an-ssl-certificate-during-apache-startup-on-debian-lenny/


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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache [SOLVED]

2011-12-10 Thread Weplica
Quoting Craig White :

> On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 15:12 -0500, Weplica wrote:
>> Quoting Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
>>
>> > Vreme: 12/10/2011 08:44 PM, Weplica piše:
>> >> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
>> >>
>> >>> - Original Message -
>> >>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
>> >>> | reboot Apache can't start:
>> >>> |
>> >>> |
>> >>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
>> >>> | to address [::]:80
>> >>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
>> >>> | 0.0.0.0:80
>> >>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
>> >>> |
>> >>> | I do:
>> >>> |
>> >>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
>> >>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
>> >>> |
>> >>> |
>> >>> | killall -9 httpd
>> >>> |
>> >>> |
>> >>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
>> >>> | I like to fix this problem.
>> >>> |
>> >>> | Thansks you.
>> >>> |
>> >>> | Ernesto
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
>> >>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
>> >>> what is holding the port before Apache.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks James, I get this:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> lsof -i :80
>> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> >> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> lsof -p 1507
>> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> >> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
>> >> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
>> >
>> > 
>> >>
>> >
>> > Is this done just after you reboot and Apache refused to start? If not,
>> > please reboot and run those two commands *before* you do
>> > "killall -9 -9 httpd".
>> >
>> > But since you kill httpd  instances before Apache wants to start, it
>> > looks like some problem with httpd.
>> >
>> > Have you only installed from repository, of have you been downloading
>> > source packages and compiling your self?
>> >
>>
>>
>> Yes just after reboot I have what I show you.
>>
>> Maybe the problem is that when I restart servide httpd withou
>> rebooting before to reboot I need to tell my pasword for SSL
>> certificate. Maybe when rebooting I can't give SSL password so it try
>> to reboot and keep like this disabled?
>>
>>
>> #lsof -i :80
>> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
>>
>> When I start manual way:
>>
>> # killall -9 httpd
>> # service httpd start
>>
>> Starting httpd: Apache/2.2.15 mod_ssl/2.2.15 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
>> Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
>> In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
>>
>> Server kuales.com:443 (RSA)
>> Enter pass phrase:
>>
>> OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I submit RSA key in automatic way?
> 
> I think that there is a way but I don't know it off hand and I think you
> can google it. You would need the key file generated when you generated
> the cert/csr and in general, life is simpler if you strip the key out of
> the cert/csr and provide both the key and the cert to apache so you
> don't have to attend to the manual entry of this key each time you
> restart the service.
>
> Craig
>
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RemoveSSLCertPassPhrase



I think RSA key was the problem, It's not secure remove pass phrase,  
so I have disable Apache on init as service and each time I reboot I  
start it whith the RSA key.

Thanks you everybody

Ernesto


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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 15:12 -0500, Weplica wrote:
> Quoting Ljubomir Ljubojevic :
> 
> > Vreme: 12/10/2011 08:44 PM, Weplica piše:
> >> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
> >>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
> >>> | reboot Apache can't start:
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
> >>> | to address [::]:80
> >>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
> >>> | 0.0.0.0:80
> >>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
> >>> |
> >>> | I do:
> >>> |
> >>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
> >>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | killall -9 httpd
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
> >>> | I like to fix this problem.
> >>> |
> >>> | Thansks you.
> >>> |
> >>> | Ernesto
> >>>
> >>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
> >>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
> >>> what is holding the port before Apache.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks James, I get this:
> >>
> >>
> >> lsof -i :80
> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> >> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> lsof -p 1507
> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> >> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
> >> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
> >
> > 
> >>
> >
> > Is this done just after you reboot and Apache refused to start? If not,
> > please reboot and run those two commands *before* you do
> > "killall -9 -9 httpd".
> >
> > But since you kill httpd  instances before Apache wants to start, it
> > looks like some problem with httpd.
> >
> > Have you only installed from repository, of have you been downloading
> > source packages and compiling your self?
> >
> 
> 
> Yes just after reboot I have what I show you.
> 
> Maybe the problem is that when I restart servide httpd withou  
> rebooting before to reboot I need to tell my pasword for SSL  
> certificate. Maybe when rebooting I can't give SSL password so it try  
> to reboot and keep like this disabled?
> 
> 
> #lsof -i :80
> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
> 
> When I start manual way:
> 
> # killall -9 httpd
> # service httpd start
> 
> Starting httpd: Apache/2.2.15 mod_ssl/2.2.15 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
> Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
> In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
> 
> Server kuales.com:443 (RSA)
> Enter pass phrase:
> 
> OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
> 
> 
> 
> Can I submit RSA key in automatic way?

I think that there is a way but I don't know it off hand and I think you
can google it. You would need the key file generated when you generated
the cert/csr and in general, life is simpler if you strip the key out of
the cert/csr and provide both the key and the cert to apache so you
don't have to attend to the manual entry of this key each time you
restart the service.

Craig



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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Ken godee
> When I start manual way:
>
> # killall -9 httpd
> # service httpd start
>
> Starting httpd: Apache/2.2.15 mod_ssl/2.2.15 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
> Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
> In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
>
> Server kuales.com:443 (RSA)
> Enter pass phrase:
>
> OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
>
>
>
> Can I submit RSA key in automatic way?
>
> ___

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
One would have to change the default port of miniserv.pl from 1 to
80 and seeing that the output of lsof indicates all of the apache
modules attached to the same pid, it's pretty clear that it is apache
that is running on port 80 (which was the reason that James asked him to
output from lsof)

Craig


On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:08 -0700, Ken godee wrote:
> Webmin doesn't need Apache to run
> it uses miniserv.pl
> 
> Apache and miniserv.pl are trying to bind to the same ip.
> 
> That is unless you have set up a virtual server to run webmin under 
> Apache? Default, webmin does not use Apache.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/10/2011 12:59 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 14:44 -0500, Weplica wrote:
> >> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
> >>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
> >>> | reboot Apache can't start:
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
> >>> | to address [::]:80
> >>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
> >>> | 0.0.0.0:80
> >>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
> >>> |
> >>> | I do:
> >>> |
> >>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
> >>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | killall -9 httpd
> >>> |
> >>> |
> >>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
> >>> | I like to fix this problem.
> >>> |
> >>> | Thansks you.
> >>> |
> >>> | Ernesto
> >>>
> >>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
> >>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
> >>> what is holding the port before Apache.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks James, I get this:
> >>
> >>
> >> lsof -i :80
> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> >> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> lsof -p 1507
> >> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> >> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
> >> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
> >> httpd   1507 root  txtREG9,0   993010 14161559 /usr/sbin/httpd
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0  1532908  2363869 /lib/libdb-4.7.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   185388 14161462
> >> /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0.3.9
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019784  2360213 /lib/libdl-2.12.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016868  2360449 
> >> /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064876 14162016
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_auth_digest.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030491 14162017
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_alias.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023617 14162020
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_default.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,029186 14162027
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_owner.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,031057 14162025
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_groupfile.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   126754 14162043
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ldap.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   310244  2363873
> >> /lib/libldap-2.4.so.2.5.6
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,057340  2363855
> >> /lib/liblber-2.4.so.2.5.6
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019166 14162063
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_version.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   122436  2360428 /lib/libselinux.so.1
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   101064  2360426 
> >> /lib/libresolv-2.12.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179160 14161860 
> >> /usr/lib/libsmime3.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,012164  2363852 /lib/libplds4.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016676  2363851 /lib/libplc4.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   102740 14157933
> >> /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2.0.23
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,075952  2360207 /lib/libz.so.1.2.3
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,060383 14162022
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authnz_ldap.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023789 14162024
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_default.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   104808 14161529
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_include.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064831 14162044
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_log_config.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051697 14162039
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ext_filter.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051499 14161519
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_deflate.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034634 14162056
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_setenvif.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,045364 14161527
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_headers.so
> >> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,042731 14162046
> >> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_mime.so
> >> httpd   15

Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Weplica
Quoting Ljubomir Ljubojevic :

> Vreme: 12/10/2011 08:44 PM, Weplica piše:
>> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
>>> | reboot Apache can't start:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
>>> | to address [::]:80
>>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
>>> | 0.0.0.0:80
>>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
>>> |
>>> | I do:
>>> |
>>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
>>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | killall -9 httpd
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
>>> | I like to fix this problem.
>>> |
>>> | Thansks you.
>>> |
>>> | Ernesto
>>>
>>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
>>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
>>> what is holding the port before Apache.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks James, I get this:
>>
>>
>> lsof -i :80
>> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> lsof -p 1507
>> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
>> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
>
> 
>>
>
> Is this done just after you reboot and Apache refused to start? If not,
> please reboot and run those two commands *before* you do
> "killall -9 -9 httpd".
>
> But since you kill httpd  instances before Apache wants to start, it
> looks like some problem with httpd.
>
> Have you only installed from repository, of have you been downloading
> source packages and compiling your self?
>


Yes just after reboot I have what I show you.

Maybe the problem is that when I restart servide httpd withou  
rebooting before to reboot I need to tell my pasword for SSL  
certificate. Maybe when rebooting I can't give SSL password so it try  
to reboot and keep like this disabled?


#lsof -i :80
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)

When I start manual way:

# killall -9 httpd
# service httpd start

Starting httpd: Apache/2.2.15 mod_ssl/2.2.15 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.

Server kuales.com:443 (RSA)
Enter pass phrase:

OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.



Can I submit RSA key in automatic way?

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Ken godee
Webmin doesn't need Apache to run
it uses miniserv.pl

Apache and miniserv.pl are trying to bind to the same ip.

That is unless you have set up a virtual server to run webmin under 
Apache? Default, webmin does not use Apache.



On 12/10/2011 12:59 PM, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 14:44 -0500, Weplica wrote:
>> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
>>> | reboot Apache can't start:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
>>> | to address [::]:80
>>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
>>> | 0.0.0.0:80
>>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
>>> |
>>> | I do:
>>> |
>>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
>>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | killall -9 httpd
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
>>> | I like to fix this problem.
>>> |
>>> | Thansks you.
>>> |
>>> | Ernesto
>>>
>>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
>>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
>>> what is holding the port before Apache.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks James, I get this:
>>
>>
>> lsof -i :80
>> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> lsof -p 1507
>> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
>> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
>> httpd   1507 root  txtREG9,0   993010 14161559 /usr/sbin/httpd
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0  1532908  2363869 /lib/libdb-4.7.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   185388 14161462
>> /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0.3.9
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019784  2360213 /lib/libdl-2.12.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016868  2360449 /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064876 14162016
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_auth_digest.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030491 14162017
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_alias.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023617 14162020
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_default.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,029186 14162027
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_owner.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,031057 14162025
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_groupfile.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   126754 14162043
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ldap.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   310244  2363873
>> /lib/libldap-2.4.so.2.5.6
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,057340  2363855
>> /lib/liblber-2.4.so.2.5.6
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019166 14162063
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_version.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   122436  2360428 /lib/libselinux.so.1
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   101064  2360426 /lib/libresolv-2.12.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179160 14161860 /usr/lib/libsmime3.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,012164  2363852 /lib/libplds4.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016676  2363851 /lib/libplc4.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   102740 14157933
>> /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2.0.23
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,075952  2360207 /lib/libz.so.1.2.3
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,060383 14162022
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authnz_ldap.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023789 14162024
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_default.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   104808 14161529
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_include.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064831 14162044
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_log_config.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051697 14162039
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ext_filter.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051499 14161519
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_deflate.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034634 14162056
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_setenvif.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,045364 14161527
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_headers.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,042731 14162046
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_mime.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,052524 14162058
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_status.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,032409 14162057
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_speling.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030144 14161553
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_userdir.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,025588 14162021
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_file.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   298818 14161516
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_dav.so
>> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,088126 14162048
>> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_negotiation.so
>> httpd   1507 ro

Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 14:44 -0500, Weplica wrote:
> Quoting "James A. Peltier" :
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
> > | reboot Apache can't start:
> > |
> > |
> > | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
> > | to address [::]:80
> > | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
> > | 0.0.0.0:80
> > | no listening sockets available, shutting down
> > |
> > | I do:
> > |
> > | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
> > | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
> > |
> > |
> > | killall -9 httpd
> > |
> > |
> > | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
> > | I like to fix this problem.
> > |
> > | Thansks you.
> > |
> > | Ernesto
> >
> > Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,  
> > nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see  
> > what is holding the port before Apache.
> >
> 
> Thanks James, I get this:
> 
> 
> lsof -i :80
> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> lsof -p 1507
> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
> httpd   1507 root  txtREG9,0   993010 14161559 /usr/sbin/httpd
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0  1532908  2363869 /lib/libdb-4.7.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   185388 14161462  
> /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0.3.9
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019784  2360213 /lib/libdl-2.12.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016868  2360449 /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064876 14162016  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_auth_digest.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030491 14162017  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_alias.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023617 14162020  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_default.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,029186 14162027  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_owner.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,031057 14162025  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_groupfile.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   126754 14162043  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ldap.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   310244  2363873  
> /lib/libldap-2.4.so.2.5.6
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,057340  2363855  
> /lib/liblber-2.4.so.2.5.6
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019166 14162063  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_version.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   122436  2360428 /lib/libselinux.so.1
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   101064  2360426 /lib/libresolv-2.12.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179160 14161860 /usr/lib/libsmime3.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,012164  2363852 /lib/libplds4.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016676  2363851 /lib/libplc4.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   102740 14157933  
> /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2.0.23
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,075952  2360207 /lib/libz.so.1.2.3
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,060383 14162022  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authnz_ldap.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023789 14162024  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_default.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   104808 14161529  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_include.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064831 14162044  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_log_config.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051697 14162039  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ext_filter.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051499 14161519  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_deflate.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034634 14162056  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_setenvif.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,045364 14161527  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_headers.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,042731 14162046  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_mime.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,052524 14162058  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_status.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,032409 14162057  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_speling.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030144 14161553  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_userdir.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,025588 14162021  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_file.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   298818 14161516  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_dav.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,088126 14162048  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_negotiation.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179791 14162049  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,077416 14162053  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so
> httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034498 14162052  
> /usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy_connect.so
> htt

Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/10/2011 08:44 PM, Weplica piše:
> Quoting "James A. Peltier":
>
>> - Original Message -
>> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
>> | reboot Apache can't start:
>> |
>> |
>> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
>> | to address [::]:80
>> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
>> | 0.0.0.0:80
>> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
>> |
>> | I do:
>> |
>> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
>> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
>> |
>> |
>> | killall -9 httpd
>> |
>> |
>> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
>> | I like to fix this problem.
>> |
>> | Thansks you.
>> |
>> | Ernesto
>>
>> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,
>> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see
>> what is holding the port before Apache.
>>
>
> Thanks James, I get this:
>
>
> lsof -i :80
> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)
>
>
>
>
>
> lsof -p 1507
> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
> httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
> httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /


>

Is this done just after you reboot and Apache refused to start? If not, 
please reboot and run those two commands *before* you do
"killall -9 -9 httpd".

But since you kill httpd  instances before Apache wants to start, it 
looks like some problem with httpd.

Have you only installed from repository, of have you been downloading 
source packages and compiling your self?

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Alan McKay  wrote:

>> 
>> LOL! Cisco.  If I told you that that particular device used to be called
>> Linksys, would it change your opinion of the device?  I've got a Linksys
>> ADSL gateway that I'm quite sure couldn't keep up with the Dell.  In fact,
>> I used to have that *exact* Linksys device and it died within 18 months and
>> it's performance sucked!
>> 
> 
> 
> Yes I know it is LinkSys - we used them at my old job and yeah we had one
> die but the price was worth it.  I am mainly concerned with the speed of
> the thing and managability.My current job is a lot less sensitive to
> outages than my last one, as well.

Outage is one thing, but having the disk volumes disappear mid-transaction can 
be detrimental to a file system's health.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Weplica
Quoting "James A. Peltier" :

> - Original Message -
> | I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
> | reboot Apache can't start:
> |
> |
> | Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
> | to address [::]:80
> | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
> | 0.0.0.0:80
> | no listening sockets available, shutting down
> |
> | I do:
> |
> | netstat -tulpn| grep :80
> | tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
> |
> |
> | killall -9 httpd
> |
> |
> | And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
> | I like to fix this problem.
> |
> | Thansks you.
> |
> | Ernesto
>
> Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example,  
> nginx.  You could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see  
> what is holding the port before Apache.
>

Thanks James, I get this:


lsof -i :80
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
httpd   1507 root5u  IPv6  10107  0t0  TCP *:http (LISTEN)





lsof -p 1507
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
httpd   1507 root  cwdDIR9,0 40962 /
httpd   1507 root  rtdDIR9,0 40962 /
httpd   1507 root  txtREG9,0   993010 14161559 /usr/sbin/httpd
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0  1532908  2363869 /lib/libdb-4.7.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   185388 14161462  
/usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0.3.9
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019784  2360213 /lib/libdl-2.12.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016868  2360449 /lib/libuuid.so.1.3.0
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064876 14162016  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_auth_digest.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030491 14162017  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_alias.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023617 14162020  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_default.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,029186 14162027  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_owner.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,031057 14162025  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_groupfile.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   126754 14162043  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ldap.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   310244  2363873  
/lib/libldap-2.4.so.2.5.6
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,057340  2363855  
/lib/liblber-2.4.so.2.5.6
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,019166 14162063  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_version.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   122436  2360428 /lib/libselinux.so.1
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   101064  2360426 /lib/libresolv-2.12.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179160 14161860 /usr/lib/libsmime3.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,012164  2363852 /lib/libplds4.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,016676  2363851 /lib/libplc4.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   102740 14157933  
/usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2.0.23
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,075952  2360207 /lib/libz.so.1.2.3
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,060383 14162022  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authnz_ldap.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,023789 14162024  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authz_default.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   104808 14161529  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_include.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,064831 14162044  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_log_config.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051697 14162039  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_ext_filter.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,051499 14161519  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_deflate.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034634 14162056  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_setenvif.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,045364 14161527  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_headers.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,042731 14162046  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_mime.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,052524 14162058  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_status.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,032409 14162057  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_speling.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,030144 14161553  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_userdir.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,025588 14162021  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_authn_file.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   298818 14161516  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_dav.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,088126 14162048  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_negotiation.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0   179791 14162049  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,077416 14162053  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,034498 14162052  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_proxy_connect.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,063372 14161514  
/usr/lib/httpd/modules/mod_cgi.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,014640  2363862 /lib/libutil-2.12.so
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,011968  2360668 /lib/libcom_err.so.2.1
httpd   1507 root  memREG9,0 890

Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Alan McKay
>
> LOL! Cisco.  If I told you that that particular device used to be called
> Linksys, would it change your opinion of the device?  I've got a Linksys
> ADSL gateway that I'm quite sure couldn't keep up with the Dell.  In fact,
> I used to have that *exact* Linksys device and it died within 18 months and
> it's performance sucked!
>


Yes I know it is LinkSys - we used them at my old job and yeah we had one
die but the price was worth it.  I am mainly concerned with the speed of
the thing and managability.My current job is a lot less sensitive to
outages than my last one, as well.

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:05 PM, "James A. Peltier"  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> | On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier" 
> | wrote:
> | 
> | > Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI.
> | > Having 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically
> | > increase your performance per interrupt. Most cheaper unmanaged
> | > switches cannot do this.
> | 
> | I want to break the myth here, jumbo frames are really only important
> | for 10Gbe+. On 1Gbe (or slow CPUs) they actually slow sequential
> | throughput due to the time to process each packet on 1Gbe and how that
> | in turn slows down packet interleaving and thus total throughput.
> | 
> | -Ross
> 
> On cheap network switches...  When you've got a switch that has 1 or more 
> 10Gb uplinks and the rest of the switch is Gb, I doubt this is an issue, but 
> I will agree that on *some* switches it may be detrimental to performance.

It's not a function of the switching fabric that changes things, but the speed 
of the ports.

If each packet takes 6 times longer to take off the wire then the system can 
handle 1/6th the number of simultaneous streams.

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Ken godee
> I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
> reboot Apache can't start:
>
>
> Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
> to address [::]:80
> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
> no listening sockets available, shutting down
>
> I do:
>
> netstat -tulpn| grep :80
> tcp0  0 :::80:::*   LISTEN  1584/httpd
>
>
> killall -9 httpd
>
>
> And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
> I like to fix this problem.
>
> Thansks you.
>
> Ernesto

Possibly Webmin and Apache are stepping on each other

add a virt ip for webmin

example

Apache eth0 192.168.1.126:80
Webmin eth0:1 192.168.1.127:80

setup hosts

webmin.host.com

should be good to go



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Re: [CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I
| reboot Apache can't start:
| 
| 
| Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind
| to address [::]:80
| (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address
| 0.0.0.0:80
| no listening sockets available, shutting down
| 
| I do:
| 
| netstat -tulpn| grep :80
| tcp 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 1584/httpd
| 
| 
| killall -9 httpd
| 
| 
| And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?
| I like to fix this problem.
| 
| Thansks you.
| 
| Ernesto

Is there another web server starting before Apache?  For example, nginx.  You 
could try and use lsof -p  or lsof -i :80 to see what is holding the port 
before Apache.

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[CentOS] Reboot problem with Apache

2011-12-10 Thread Weplica
I have CentOS 6 and with webmin/virtualmin panel, and each time that I  
reboot Apache can't start:


Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind  
to address [::]:80
(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
no listening sockets available, shutting down

I do:

netstat -tulpn| grep :80
tcp0  0 :::80:::*   LISTEN  1584/httpd


killall -9 httpd


And then Apache can start. But do you why thos problem in each reboot?  
I like to fix this problem.

Thansks you.

Ernesto

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier" 
| wrote:
| 
| > Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI.
| > Having 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically
| > increase your performance per interrupt. Most cheaper unmanaged
| > switches cannot do this.
| 
| I want to break the myth here, jumbo frames are really only important
| for 10Gbe+. On 1Gbe (or slow CPUs) they actually slow sequential
| throughput due to the time to process each packet on 1Gbe and how that
| in turn slows down packet interleaving and thus total throughput.
| 
| -Ross

On cheap network switches...  When you've got a switch that has 1 or more 10Gb 
uplinks and the rest of the switch is Gb, I doubt this is an issue, but I will 
agree that on *some* switches it may be detrimental to performance.

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 1:49 PM, "James A. Peltier"  wrote:

> Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI.  Having 
> 9000 byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically increase your 
> performance per interrupt.  Most cheaper unmanaged switches cannot do this.

I want to break the myth here, jumbo frames are really only important for 
10Gbe+. On 1Gbe (or slow CPUs) they actually slow sequential throughput due to 
the time to process each packet on 1Gbe and how that in turn slows down  packet 
interleaving and thus total throughput.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| > The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low
| 
| Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-)
| 
| 
http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0
| 
| $2000 for the 24 port.
| 
| I can get a Cisco small business switch for less than 1/4 that.
| Speaking of which, would this one be OK for iSCSI?
| 
| http://www.shoprbc.com/ca/shop/product_details.php?pid=71436

LOL! Cisco.  If I told you that that particular device used to be called 
Linksys, would it change your opinion of the device?  I've got a Linksys ADSL 
gateway that I'm quite sure couldn't keep up with the Dell.  In fact, I used to 
have that *exact* Linksys device and it died within 18 months and it's 
performance sucked!

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Alan McKay  wrote:

>> The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low
> 
> Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-)
> 
> http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0
> 
> $2000 for the 24 port.
> 
> I can get a Cisco small business switch for less than 1/4 that.
> Speaking of which, would this one be OK for iSCSI?
> 
> http://www.shoprbc.com/ca/shop/product_details.php?pid=71436

Actually the 5424 would be a better then the 6224, the base is around $1200, if 
you call a rep you can probably get 33% off, given it's year end, often they 
will have a buy one get one free which equates to 50% off.

As far as the Cisco Small Business line is concerned, that line was formed from 
the acquisition of Linksys, so it's basically Linksys small business switches 
and you get what you pay for.

If this is for a home media server, then I'm sure it will be more then 
adequate, if this is a business system I would invest in equipment whose cost 
is in relation to the cost of the data contained within.

You wouldn't want a cheap switch that locks up when the traffic gets heavy to 
ruin your data integrity.

Lump the cost of the switches, nics and cables into the total cost of the 
storage solution and justify that cost by the cost of the integrity of the data 
it contains. There is your business rational for the investment.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| Hey folks,
| 
| I had some general questions and when reading through the list
| archives I
| came across an iSCSI discussion back in February where a couple of
| individuals were going back and forth about drafting up a "best
| practices"
| doc and putting it into a wiki. Did that ever happen? And if so, where
| is it?
| 
| Now my questions :
| We are not using iSCIS yet at work but I see a few places where it
| would be
| useful e.g. a number of heavy-use NFS mounts (from my ZFS appliance)
| that I
| believe would be slightly more efficient if I converted them to iSCSI.
| I
| also want to introduce some virtual machines which I think would work
| out
| best if I created iSCSI drives for them back on my Oracle/Sun ZFS
| appliance.
| 
| I mentioned iSCSI to the guy whose work I have taken over here so that
| he
| can concentrate on his real job, and when I mentioned that we should
| have a
| separate switch so that all iSCSI traffic is on it's own switch, he
| balked
| and said something like "it is a switched network, it should not
| matter".
| But that does not sit right with me - the little bit I've read about
| iSCSI
| in the past always stresses that you should have it on its own
| network.
| 
| So 2 questions :
| - how important is it to have it on its own network?
| - is it OK to use an unmanaged switch (as long as it is Gigabit), or
| are
| there some features of a managed switch that are desirable/required
| with
| iSCSI?
| 
| thanks,
| -Alan

It is not imperative to have a separate switch but it certainly helps, 
especially if your switch is not managed.  Managed switches will allow you to 
create VLANs that can be both jumbo frame and non-jumbo frame on the same 
device.

Jumbo frames is really the important thing when it comes to iSCSI.  Having 9000 
byte packets verses 1500 byte packets will dramatically increase your 
performance per interrupt.  Most cheaper unmanaged switches cannot do this.

Second, if their cheap switches, you'll likely saturate the backplane no matter 
what.  Get good switches for this type of work.

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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 82, Issue 6

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We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-6.1
install media for i386 and x86_64 Architectures. Release Notes for 6.1
are availble at http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.1 -
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CentOS-6.1 is based on the upstream release EL 6.1 and includes packages
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You can also use a mirror close to you :
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Re: [CentOS] iSCSI best practices

2011-12-10 Thread Alan McKay
> The Dell 6224 or 6248 switches are priced low

Hmmm, we seem to have different definitions of "priced low" :-)

http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=ca&l=en&cs=cabsdt1&k=PowerConnect+6224&cat=all&x=0&y=0

$2000 for the 24 port.

I can get a Cisco small business switch for less than 1/4 that.
Speaking of which, would this one be OK for iSCSI?

http://www.shoprbc.com/ca/shop/product_details.php?pid=71436


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[CentOS] Combining CentOS 6.1 DVD images

2011-12-10 Thread Steve Snyder
I would like to create a single installation directory from the DVD1 and DVD2 
CentOS 6.1 release DVD images, suitable for network (NFS) installation.

If I mount each of the ISO images and copy their files to a single directory, 
will that work?  That is, are the files on each DVD unique such that I won't be 
overwriting any files from DVD1 when doing the DVD2 copy?  

Will pointing a CentOS network installation (CentOS-6.1-i386-netinstall.iso) at 
this directory satisfy it at runtime for the files needed to do a full 6.1 
install? 

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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Bernard Lheureux
On 12/10/2011 02:02 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

6.2 should arrive really fast, believe me !
and if you use the CR repo, you should already be up-to-date, all 
updated packages are going to be soon in it before the complete tree is 
built for 6.2 !

# CentOS-CR.repo
#
# The continuous release  ( CR ) repository contains rpms from the
# next point release of CentOS, which isnt itself released as yet.
#
# Look at http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CR
# for more details about how this repository works and what users
# should expect to see included / excluded

[cr]
name=CentOS-$releasever - CR
baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/cr/$basearch/
gpgcheck=1
enabled=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-6


> Vreme: 12/10/2011 02:01 AM, Johnny Hughes piše:
>> Let's go ahead and get this flame thread started now to save time.
>>
>> The CentOS team sucks ... it took  days to do 6.1 ... it is going to
>> take twice as long to get 6.2
>>
>> My mom said CentOS blows.
>>
>> kbsingh is ugly.
>>
>> hughesjr is old and fat.
>>
>> OK ... that should do.
>>
> It made me laugh too. Although it does ring a bell.
>
> My suggestion would be to, at least for the first part, count the number
> of packages and once a week or two release percentage of built packages.
> that would give the "feel of progress" to all concerned. And since most
> likely the large number of packages will build in first several build
> attempts, progress would be visible to anyone.
>
> And I do know complicated packages are lest for last and prognoses can
> not be made for those.
>

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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 12/10/2011 02:01 AM, Johnny Hughes piše:
> Let's go ahead and get this flame thread started now to save time.
>
> The CentOS team sucks ... it took  days to do 6.1 ... it is going to
> take twice as long to get 6.2
>
> My mom said CentOS blows.
>
> kbsingh is ugly.
>
> hughesjr is old and fat.
>
> OK ... that should do.
>

It made me laugh too. Although it does ring a bell.

My suggestion would be to, at least for the first part, count the number 
of packages and once a week or two release percentage of built packages. 
that would give the "feel of progress" to all concerned. And since most 
likely the large number of packages will build in first several build 
attempts, progress would be visible to anyone.

And I do know complicated packages are lest for last and prognoses can 
not be made for those.

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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Jake Shipton
On 10/12/11 01:01, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Let's go ahead and get this flame thread started now to save time.
> 
> The CentOS team sucks ... it took  days to do 6.1 ... it is going to
> take twice as long to get 6.2
> 
> My mom said CentOS blows.
> 
> kbsingh is ugly.
> 
> hughesjr is old and fat.
> 
> OK ... that should do.
> 
> 
> 
> This body part will be downloaded on demand.
Haha :-). Made me laugh.

In all seriousness though, I would just like to say:

Thank you CentOS team for the work you put in, I'm updating my Grandma's
PC to 6.1 now (from 6.0 CR enabled) :-), So again:

Thank You :-).

-- 
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[CentOS] RHEL6.2 kernel

2011-12-10 Thread Florian La Roche
Hello,

until a more official rebuild shows up, I have recomppiled the
RHEL 6.2 kernel src.rpm and copied the binary rpms to:

  http://jur-linux.org/download/redhat-kernel/6/220.el6/

This is running happily on a dozen machines now.

best regards,

Florian La Roche

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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Maarten Elsen
A big thank you to the CentOS team for the 6.1 release.
And nice to see that there will be a CR repo again.
See you all at FOSDEM2012.

Maarten
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Re: [CentOS] Unsigned nx/freenx packages in Centos 6 extras repo

2011-12-10 Thread Andrzej Szymański
Thanks a lot!

Andrzej
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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Peter Eckel
Hi Louis,

> come on Johnny, there are still plenty of people that appreciate the
> work you guys do and are happy to see 6.1 released. Please give us first
> a chance to say "thank you so much!"

Indeed, and since I omitted that in my last post (I probably was too busy 
chuckling), I'd like to chime in here. From what little seeped through to the 
outside, this time it was a Herculic task to keep up with upstream, and they 
did it - again. 

Thank you very much, all of the team. 

  Peter.
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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 19:01 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Let's go ahead and get this flame thread started now to save time.
> 
> The CentOS team sucks ... it took  days to do 6.1 ... it is going to
> take twice as long to get 6.2
> 
> My mom said CentOS blows.
> 
> kbsingh is ugly.
> 
> hughesjr is old and fat.
> 
> OK ... that should do.

come on Johnny, there are still plenty of people that appreciate the
work you guys do and are happy to see 6.1 released. Please give us first
a chance to say "thank you so much!"

I understand that it is frustrating to release CentOS 6.1 right after
RedHat release 6.2 so you can't even allow yourself to relax a bit (and
knowing you guys you HAVE to keep up, not because of the complainer, but
because of your pride in what you are doing and its results).

Thanks for the work on 6.1!

Louis

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Re: [CentOS] Unsigned nx/freenx packages in Centos 6 extras repo

2011-12-10 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/10/2011 05:33 AM, Andrzej Szymański wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've encountered an error updating nx/freenx:
> 
> Package nx-3.5.0-1.el6.centos.x86_64.rpm is not signed
> 
> Both nx and freenx packages in Centos 6 extras repo are not signed, is 
> this correct?
> 

No, it is an error.

New files have been pushed.

You should be able to get them on mirror.centos.org shortly.



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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Peter Eckel
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Hi Johnny, 

> Let's go ahead and get this flame thread started now to save time.
> 
> The CentOS team sucks ... it took  days to do 6.1 ... it is going to
> take twice as long to get 6.2
> 
> My mom said CentOS blows.
> 
> kbsingh is ugly.
> 
> hughesjr is old and fat.
> 
> OK ... that should do.

OK, thanks. A simple '6.1 has been released' would have done, though :-)

Cheers, 

  Peter.
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[CentOS] Unsigned nx/freenx packages in Centos 6 extras repo

2011-12-10 Thread Andrzej Szymański
Hello,

I've encountered an error updating nx/freenx:

Package nx-3.5.0-1.el6.centos.x86_64.rpm is not signed

Both nx and freenx packages in Centos 6 extras repo are not signed, is 
this correct?

Andrzej
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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Andy Smith
On 10 December 2011 10:41, Hakan Koseoglu  wrote:
> On 10/12/11 03:36, An Yang wrote:
>> I think all the blocks were removed, and 6.2 will be released very soon.
> Unless it was parked on a hill backwards and now rolling down the hill!
>
Damn, and I haven't even installed 6.0 yet ... slow down !! slow down
!! aee !!
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Re: [CentOS] When will 6.2 be released.

2011-12-10 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 10/12/11 03:36, An Yang wrote:
> I think all the blocks were removed, and 6.2 will be released very soon.
Unless it was parked on a hill backwards and now rolling down the hill!

Congratulations to the CentOS team again!
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