Re: [CentOS] netinstall

2012-08-26 Thread Yanis Guenane
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
 wrote:

 How can I insert a disc which is already inserted?  What am I missing?

 Well, pretty simple... You don't have the correct disc already inserted.

 Its a netinstall, hence the net so it needs the net. Its also only a
 couple
 hundred megs, so that should indicate it doesn't have the full tree
 available.

 Grab the dvd if you want to install from the same disc, or choose another
 method.


As Joseph mention, if you downloaded the netinstall you should definitely
use the net and not any CD/DVD installer.
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/centos-6-netinstall-network-installation/

This is a tutorial that will guide you through and points to the correct
URL for package repositories and to the correct install.img file.

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Re: [CentOS] vi defaults in 6.x

2012-08-26 Thread Markus Falb
On 20.8.2012 19:16, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 On 08/20/2012 04:07 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Gordon Messmeryiny...@eburg.com  wrote:

 Actually, it's a shell alias.  And then, only if vim is installed,
 which it isn't in some configurations.  IIRC, desktop systems have him
 by default, but server installations do not.
 It is neither a symlink nor a shell alias - execpt maybe for platforms that
 for some reason don't include vi.
 
 On a CentOS system, vi will be a shell alias when the vim package is 
 installed.  Otherwise it will be a variant of vim which is more 
 compatible with the POSIX description of vi (though not 100%).  As we 
 are discussing CentOS, I believe my statements did not require 
 correction.  Thanks.

I got curious ;-)

vim-minimal installs /bin/vi
vim-enhanced installs /usr/bin/vim and sets the alias (the vim package)

[falb@xxx ~]$ which vi
alias vi='vim'
/usr/bin/vim
[falb@xxx ~]$ which vim
/usr/bin/vim
[falb@xxx ~]$ whereis vi
vi: /bin/vi /usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1p/vi.1p.gz

But the alias is not set for root!

[root@xxx ~]# which vi
/bin/vi
[root@xxx ~]# which vim
/usr/bin/vim
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[CentOS] yum relocatable RPMs

2012-08-26 Thread Rita
Hello,

I dont have root access but I would like to install several packages (gtk)
in my home directory. Is it possible to install it via yum ?



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Re: [CentOS] yum relocatable RPMs

2012-08-26 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 26.08.2012 um 15:51 schrieb Rita:
 Hello,
 
 I dont have root access but I would like to install several packages (gtk)
 in my home directory. Is it possible to install it via yum ?


AFAIK - no. But checkout the manual for rpm.

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Re: [CentOS] vi defaults in 6.x

2012-08-26 Thread me
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:26:48 Markus Falb markus.f...@fasel.at wrote:

 On 20.8.2012 19:16, Gordon Messmer wrote:
  On 08/20/2012 04:07 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  Gordon Messmeryiny...@eburg.com  wrote:
 
  Actually, it's a shell alias.  And then, only if vim is installed,
  which it isn't in some configurations.  IIRC, desktop systems have him
  by default, but server installations do not.
  It is neither a symlink nor a shell alias - execpt maybe for platforms that
  for some reason don't include vi.
 
  On a CentOS system, vi will be a shell alias when the vim package is
  installed.  Otherwise it will be a variant of vim which is more
  compatible with the POSIX description of vi (though not 100%).  As we
  are discussing CentOS, I believe my statements did not require
  correction.  Thanks.
 
 I got curious ;-)
 
 vim-minimal installs /bin/vi
 vim-enhanced installs /usr/bin/vim and sets the alias (the vim package)
 
 [falb@xxx ~]$ which vi
 alias vi='vim'
  /usr/bin/vim
 [falb@xxx ~]$ which vim
 /usr/bin/vim
 [falb@xxx ~]$ whereis vi
 vi: /bin/vi /usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1p/vi.1p.gz
 
 But the alias is not set for root!

FWIW, If you comment out the line [ -n $ID -a $ID -le 200 ]  return in
/etc/profile.d/vim.sh then the alias will be set at login.

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Re: [CentOS] yum relocatable RPMs

2012-08-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 08/26/12 6:51 AM, Rita wrote:
 I dont have root access but I would like to install several packages (gtk)
 in my home directory. Is it possible to install it via yum ?

no.  rpm installed packages have to be listed in the system catalogs so 
package management can keep track of them.   have your system manager 
install them, or build your own from tarballs specifying to install in 
your home dir (typically a --prefix= option on ./configure, but that 
heavily depends on the package and how its built).



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Re: [CentOS] yum relocatable RPMs

2012-08-26 Thread Rita
Thanks. My system manager wants the installations to be very small which
makes sense and also the stock versions are very outdated therefore it
would be hard.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 08/26/12 6:51 AM, Rita wrote:
  I dont have root access but I would like to install several packages
 (gtk)
  in my home directory. Is it possible to install it via yum ?

 no.  rpm installed packages have to be listed in the system catalogs so
 package management can keep track of them.   have your system manager
 install them, or build your own from tarballs specifying to install in
 your home dir (typically a --prefix= option on ./configure, but that
 heavily depends on the package and how its built).



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Re: [CentOS] netinstall

2012-08-26 Thread Reinhard Kotucha
On 2012-08-26 at 09:18:21 +0200, Yanis Guenane wrote:

  On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com
   wrote:
  
   How can I insert a disc which is already inserted?  What am I
   missing?
  
   Well, pretty simple... You don't have the correct disc already
   inserted.
  
   Its a netinstall, hence the net so it needs the net. Its also
   only a couple hundred megs, so that should indicate it doesn't
   have the full tree available.
  
   Grab the dvd if you want to install from the same disc, or
   choose another method.
  
  
  As Joseph mention, if you downloaded the netinstall you should
  definitely use the net and not any CD/DVD installer.

Sorry Joseph and Yanis, I wasn't clear enough last night.  Maybe it
was too late.

I'm not talking about the packages but about the file install.img.
This file *IS* already on the netinstall CD and it's exactly the same
as the one I had to download.

I downloaded it again now in order to compare:

$ md5sum /media/dvd/images/install.img ~/downloads/install.img 
ef3b0e14ff354c41524600c00ef44000  /media/dvd/images/install.img
ef3b0e14ff354c41524600c00ef44000  /home/reinhard/downloads/install.img

In order to save time and traffic, it would be nice if I could use
it.  There is even a menu item but it doesn't work for me.

According to the error message, the installer assumed that the file
install.img is on another disc.  But this is not the case.  It's on
the netinstall CD already.

  http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/centos-6-netinstall-network-installation/
  
  This is a tutorial that will guide you through and points to the
  correct URL for package repositories and to the correct install.img
  file.

Sure, but the install.img file at the package repository isn't more
correct than the one on the netinstall CD.  They are identical.
The guy who wrote the tutorial obviously encountered the same problem
but wasn't aware of the file on the CD and suggested this workaround.

BTW, I got the system running.  But I fear that I'll have to install
it several times again because I'd like to experiment with virtual
machines and LVM.  It's very likely that I break something since I
have no experience with them.  Therefore it would save me some time if
I don't have to download a file which exists on the CD already.

Of course, it takes much more time to download and install the
packages, but in this case, once installation is started, I can do
something else meanwhile.

Another thing: Even if I can use install.img from the CD, at least
when I have to install packages, I have to specify an URL to a
repository.  Documentation proposes mirror.centos.org .  Is there a
reason why the installer doesn't offer the mirror URL as a default?

I ask because I have only one machine and whenever the installer asks
me for an URL, I have to abort and boot a system which provides a web
browser in order to read the documentation, write the URL down on
paper, and start the installer again.  Well, I sometimes have the
impression that I'm the only one in the world who doesn't have a
mobile phone with a built-in web browser. :)

Of course, specifying a particular server as a default isn't
reasonable, it would cause too much traffic there.  But given that
mirror.centos.org performs load balancing, wouldn't it be possible to
provide a default URL in the installer menu?  It would make
installation *much* more convenient.

Any idea why it hasn't been done?

Regards,
  Reinhard

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