Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, 2013-03-28 at 11:29 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 3/28/2013 11:11 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
  On 03/28/2013 02:05 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
  is it as simple as adding allow-recursion{} with  the appropriate private
  subnets and localhost to named.conf ?
  Yes.  That's basically it.

 k, thanks, looks like its working!

Disclamer

I'm one of the original founders of Internet Security Systems, now part
of IBM.  I was a founder of the ISS X-Force and am still one of their
Senior Wizards and a senior security researcher.  However!  I am not
speaking for or on behalf or representing ISS or X-Force or IBM...  I am
writing, personally, as a professional white hat hacker and security
researcher.  This will be a bit of a long soap-box / tub thump.

/Disclaimer

I love to believe in coincidences and I'm a firm believer in
coincidences...  But...  The timing of your original post leads me to
think otherwise.  The fact that you say looks like it's working tells
me that you're seeing something active on your network that makes me
believe that this is not a coincidence.

By any chance, might you have been one of the thousands of open
resolvers that got caught up in the Spamhaus / Cyberbunker debacle of
the last two weeks?  Don't bother to answer that and don't worry about
it if you were.  If you were, you were only one (or a handful) out of
thousands who were abused in this attack on Spamhaus.  They all (you
all) were, in turn, only a small fraction of the tens (or hundreds) of
thousands of open resolvers present on the net, so you're actually in
good (large) company (unfortunately).

The suggested solution will solve a (BIG) part of the problem.  It WILL
solve the problem being exploited in the Spamhaus attack, that of
abusing open resolvers in attacking others in a DNS resource
amplification attack.  Unfortunately, it does NOT solve the problem of
someone attacking you exploiting your own resolvers against you.

Resource amplification attacks like this utilize spoofed packets
(packets spoofed to be from the actual target).  The amplified
payloads are the replies back to the spoofed addresses.

Now, suppose someone has YOU in their crosshairs.  They identify your
resolvers (not really a major task - especially if you make the mistake
of using your authoritative name servers as resolvers as well) and then
proceed to spoof packets into your resolvers as if they were coming from
your IP addresses.  By the time the packets reach your resolvers, they
have no way to tell if the source address is legitimate or not, and will
match your recursion allow rules.  It's the the job of your security
perimeter firewalls to filter local vrs foreign packets and on-session
vrs unsolicited packets.  Consequently, your resolvers will amplify that
traffic (factor of 100 or more) and reflect it back to your internal
network.

It's actually amusing how attackers can abuse the very nature of the DNS
for this.  They prime an authoritative name server with a MASSIVE
payload and then spoof the first request into the target resolver for
that resource.  The resolver then caches it and then subsequent requests
are served out of the resolver's cache and doesn't load down the
attacker's name servers further.  So, he can then hit you with hundreds
of thousands of spoofed requests delivering GB of data at his intended
target (possibly you) having only serviced a single query request for a
few K.  Gotta love that for efficiency.

Years ago, I actually had a customer (a major multinational corporation
who shall remain unnamed) come under such an attack and was crying for
help.  Restricting your resolvers to local networks does not help in
this case.  They had an exposed resolver, outside of their firewall
perimeter, and the attacker was spoofing packets from their internal
addresses.  Even if your firewall blocks those responses (stateful
firewall) it still overloads your pipe in front of the firewall.  It was
crushing them with no way to filter it.

Let me make this clear.  Any recursive name server, restricted or not,
which can be reached from the greater Internet can be abused to attack
the networks for which it is configured to allow recursion.  The
restrictions limit what can be attacked.  Without firewalling an
external filtering, it does not restrict where you can be attacked from,
since it's a spoofed attack in the first place.

Years before, I had published a series of articles for our customers on
Robust DNS Deloyments.  One of the recommendations was to NOT have
your authoritative name servers be recursive name servers at all (except
for localhost).  That was their only solution.  They had to scramble and
shut down those external recursive resolvers entirely and switch to
internal ones protected behind their firewalls that could block the
spoofed packets.

The argument goes at this...

Your authoritative name servers (at least some of them) must be public.
That's their nature, to publicly advertise your domain name information

Re: [CentOS] Does CentOS support dual graphics cards with 2 monitors each?

2013-04-01 Thread Alfred von Campe
On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:58, Tilman Schmidt wrote:

 Nouveau supports dual monitors on a single card just fine.

Yes, I have no problems with this either and have most of my users running
with two monitors and the nouveau driver.  But I'm trying to set up one user
with 4 monitors now.

This morning I've had partial success after installing the kmod-nvidia
RPM, playing with nvidia-settings, and manually editing the xorg.conf
file.  It's working as 2 (or 3?) separate X screens so that you can't
drag windows around all monitors, but it's a start.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread Robert Benjamin

On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin benj...@cox.net wrote:
   WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC turned
 it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and
 type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the
 top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very
 quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or
 just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either.
 Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive about
 shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion?
 That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the
 previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware
 issue.  Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or
 network.

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 Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems 
Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's 
name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition. 
Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is 
at a level I can deal with. Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Michael H. Warfield m...@wittsend.com wrote:
 It's the the job of your security
 perimeter firewalls to filter local vrs foreign packets and on-session
 vrs unsolicited packets.

You say that as though everyone has such tools.  Or that they are such
an integrated part of the TCP/IP standards that applications can
simply assume that it is someone else's problem...  But I don't think
that is generally true - or that the concept even makes sense in the
context of the redundant routing TCP/IP is clearly designed to handle.
   You might instead say that people are forced to add specialized
tools like that by stupid applications that are easy to exploit if you
don't...

 If you absolutely MUST combine them (and I would love to hear the
 rational as to why, beyond cost and laziness) then, by all means,
 restrict recursion to your local networks, with the understanding that
 they can still be abused to attack yourself..

The rationale is that the applications were written that way.   Put
the blame on the design where it belongs.   And talk about it in terms
of people later being essentially forced to deal with the fallout from
the design by having to change the buried IP address configurations
that the DNS system was supposed to avoid having to do in the first
place.

 I don't know where you are in the Internet food chain (end consumer,
 ISP, Tier 1 provider, or backbone) but if you are in the routing chain
 (you manage or provide routing - anyone other than an end consumer) then
 it's also very important to implement BCP (Best Common Practice) 38.
 BCP 38 recommends router egress filtering.  That is, you only route out
 what will route back in.  That prevents you (or any of your customers)
 from being a spoofing source.  That strikes at the heart of many of
 these types of attacks.

So, what tools do that in combination with dynamic routing protocols?
 And with asymmetric routes?

 Routing issues and BCP38 aside, you really should separate your
 authoritative an recursive name servers if at all possible.

I don't disagree with that, but I look as a workaround to fix an
initial bad design and wouldn't call the people who haven't
accomplished it yet lazy.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread m . roth
Robert Benjamin wrote:

 On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin benj...@cox.net
 wrote:
   WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC
 turned
 it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and
 type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the
 top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very
 quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or
 just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either.
 Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive
 about
 shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion?
 That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the
 previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware
 issue.  Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or
 network.

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  Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems
 Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's
 name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition.
 Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is
 at a level I can deal with. Thanks.

They can't spell. On the cover is a non-ascii char, that when I was a kid
in school, was the way some books spell Caesar, with the a and the e
sharing a line.

http://www.amazon.com/Essential-System-Administration-Third-Frisch/dp/0596003439

As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books
from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who
really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY KNOW
(as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years ago,
that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the pharmaceutical
co's market for sleeping pills out of business)

mark

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Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/1/2013 6:11 AM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
 it's also very important to implement BCP (Best Common Practice) 38.
 BCP 38 recommends router egress filtering.  That is, you only route out
 what will route back in.  That prevents you (or any of your customers)
 from being a spoofing source.

of course, this breaks a bunch of types of ad-hoc multihoming, where you 
have multiple ISPs, each with their own subnets, and you're trying to 
load balance your outbound traffic.



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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread Robert Benjamin

On 4/1/2013 2:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Robert Benjamin wrote:
 On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin benj...@cox.net
 wrote:
WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC
 turned
 it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and
 type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the
 top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very
 quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or
 just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either.
 Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive
 about
 shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion?
 That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the
 previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware
 issue.  Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or
 network.

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   Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems
 Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's
 name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition.
 Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is
 at a level I can deal with. Thanks.

 They can't spell. On the cover is a non-ascii char, that when I was a kid
 in school, was the way some books spell Caesar, with the a and the e
 sharing a line.

 http://www.amazon.com/Essential-System-Administration-Third-Frisch/dp/0596003439

 As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books
 from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who
 really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY KNOW
 (as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years ago,
 that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the pharmaceutical
 co's market for sleeping pills out of business)

  mark

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 Thanks. I'll browse the bookstore for books from O'Reilly Publisher 
and see what appeals to me. Texts can be boring as I well know as an 
Assoc Prof, retired, and many are sooo boing it is a shame. Anyhow, 
will look and I'm sure I'll find somethig suitable.

Bob
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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books
 from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who
 really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY KNOW
 (as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years ago,
 that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the pharmaceutical
 co's market for sleeping pills out of business)

I don't' know anything about this book or publisher, but you really
need to learn in several different levels.   One is the broad overview
of what you are trying to do (and once you understand that, you won't
want to revisit the theory every time you want to change some detail),
another is the choice of OS/application programs and languages you are
implementing (which may change, but relatively slowly), and another is
the very version-specific details you need when you actually start
changing things.   I've never found a single book that could combine
those levels in a way that works together at all or could avoid being
out of date before it is printed.  You really need a tutorial that
you'll read once and throw away, plus a reference for the details
you'll change.   And for the reference side, the online man pages
work, once you learn to read them and understand that they expect you
to already know what the shell will do to command lines
(wildcard/variable substitution, redirection, etc.) before the program
itself runs.  And the RHEL/CentOS docs are good too.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 13:44 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robert Benjamin benj...@cox.net wrote:
 snip


 Yes, installs that include X and a desktop will default to runlevel 5.
  Before trying 'startx' , do 'init 3' as root.  That should shut down
 the existing session, but whatever is hanging on startup may prevent a
 clean shutdown too.  So startx may complain that there is still a lock
 file and you may have to remove it manually and run startx again.
I recall from arlier in the thread that the OP din't know his run level.
So after a decent interval with no one suggesting it ...


$ runlevel
3 5

The first digit is prior run level, the second is current.

 snip

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books
 from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who
 really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY
 KNOW (as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years
ago,
 that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the
 pharmaceutical co's market for sleeping pills out of business)

 I don't' know anything about this book or publisher, but you really

Les, you don't know O'Reilly? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Almost
every programmer I know, and every admin, had somewhere between one
O'Reilly book and a full shelf of them. (No, I'm not getting a kickback
from O'Reilly).

He became a publisher, as I understand, in the late eighties, when he put
out  five volume set, co-written by him, on working with and programming
X. They actively encourage group book buys - I've both participated in
them, and once set up one, back in the nineties (never again, trying to
get 20 or so folks to pass in the selections and money). The discounts
hit very quickly, starting at 10 books (10%? 15%?) and once you go over 50
books, I think, from there to 199 books, it's a 45% discount off cover.

I know he's in wikipedia

   mark

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[CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread Yves S. Garret
Hello,

I did df -h on my CentOS 6.4 machine.

$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_root
   47G  8.8G   36G  20% /
tmpfs 948M  372K  947M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1 485M   62M  398M  14% /boot
/dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_home
  4.6G  2.7G  1.7G  63% /home

What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I re-partition
this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?
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Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Michael H. Warfield m...@wittsend.com wrote:

 Actually, it's pretty easy with netfilter / iptables.  Other firewalls
 like pf filter on *BSD an proprietary work similar.  If you know your
 inside networks you merely add a rule to block incoming packets on your
 external interface with source addresses that should be inside your
 firewall.

What does 'inside' mean to TCP/IP?   Are you saying it can't work if
you are all public?   Or if you expect to use redundant public routing
among all of your systems?

 Do
 we all drop BIND in favor of nscd for our authoritative name servers and
 dnsmasq for our cachers?

Well, first you have to come out and say that recursive resolvers are
too fragile to survive in public.  Or have too much potential for
collateral damage and must be outlawed.  Maybe define a way your
network topology has to be arranged.   Then move on to how BIND should
be shipped.

  I don't think that's the answer either.
 Establishing best practices and discouraging people from misconfiguring
 applications would seem to be a better option and best current practices
 now were not always considered best practices 20 years ago.  It's a
 challenge.  It's a BIG challenge in my business.

OK, but of course it is a challenge if you advocate using tools that
most people don't have or understand - or don't work universally.

  Asymmetric
 routes (aka triangular routing) should be severely discourage and is
 generally considered a configuration error unless it's heavily
 justified.

I don't think BGP shares this opinion.  And I'd speculate that the
simplicity of IP routing only needing to care about the forward route
direction one hop at a time is the main reason that it became the
network of choice.  Well, that and a taxpayer funded directory service
from the start.

 They're highly unreliable to begin with (you can forget
 about getting through stateful firewalls).  Where it can be justified,
 then static rules allow it will cover things in ways that attackers can
 not exploit.

So what you need to establish first is the location of the firewalls
in respect to recursive servers.

 Perhaps.  But I'm not quite so sure where the bad design is or if it's
 merely a confluence of extremely powerful tools, like BIND, that can be
 used in a multitude of ways.  I might agree with you more if the bad
 design you are referring to is the overall network design,
 architecture, and layout.  I've seen plenty of well designed tools
 misused in badly designed networks.

So you envision an internet where it is impossible to reach a
recursive resolver outside of your own organization's control?

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Re: [CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread Timo Schoeler
On 04/01/2013 09:00 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I did df -h on my CentOS 6.4 machine.
 
 $ df -h FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on 
 /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_root 47G  8.8G   36G  20% / tmpfs
 948M  372K  947M   1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 485M   62M  398M
 14% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_home 4.6G  2.7G  1.7G  63% /home
 
 What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I
 re-partition this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?

You'd have to resize the logical volumes your FS lives on (here:
vg_ysg-lv_root and vg_ysg-lv_home) and resize the FS as well.

Can be done booting off a rescue medium w/o any problems. Make sure you
do have a complete backup, though.

HTH,

Timo
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Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 11:17 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 4/1/2013 6:11 AM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
  it's also very important to implement BCP (Best Common Practice) 38.
  BCP 38 recommends router egress filtering.  That is, you only route out
  what will route back in.  That prevents you (or any of your customers)
  from being a spoofing source.

 of course, this breaks a bunch of types of ad-hoc multihoming, where you 
 have multiple ISPs, each with their own subnets, and you're trying to 
 load balance your outbound traffic.

It doesn't have to and it's just as easy to argue that stateful
firewalls also break such configurations (they do).  It is possible to
interface your load leveling and dynamic routing into your filter if
it's done properly.  The point there is that you have to do it properly
up front.  Once it's done, it should require little maintenance.
Unfortunately, if you have to go back into an established architecture
and retrofit one in, that can be a difficult and time consuming
prospect, especially if you didn't design the network to begin with.

If you're dealing with multihoming and multiple ISPs then you should be
talking BGP (or IS-IS) to your ISPs (I have my own ASN and advertise my
own routes on IPv4 and IPv6 but you can use private ASNs and many ISPs
will cooperate if you have the address space to advertise) and it should
all be integrated.

If you are trying to do ad-hoc mutihoming without using BGP or IS-IS to
manage the routing to your ISPs, then I have no sympathy for you.
That's just inviting a never ending stream of self-inflicted trouble and
grief when routing breaks (been there, done that, not pretty).  Being
abused for DNS amplification attacks is the least of your problems then.
Once we had multiple connections to the same ISP (redundant fiber links
running in different directions out the street outside of our building)
we were running BGP to manage it.

But I also understand that in many large organizations (particularly
ones who are NOT ISPs and their primary business is not networking) much
of the IT staff is even more terrified of BGP than they are DNS and
probably for good reasons.

That's a statement from personal experience.  Years ago, I asked for a
read-only BGP feed from our IT department way back then (10 or 15
years ago) and got a not no - hell no - are you insane? answer.  Their
reasoning was that they trusted me (as if they had a choice) but they
didn't trust all of their mainline minions (err, staff) to stick their
fingers in those routers.  BGP is so critical to those who rely on it
(especially if you are multihomed) that, if someone makes even a minor
mistake, it can disasterously disconnect you from the net or worse.
Unfortunately, even worse than DNS, once it's working people
(management) want you to LEAVE IT ALONE lest you beak it.  So, most IT
people are even less familiar with BGP than DNS and plenty are scared
shitless about breaking DNS.

DNS itself can be just as bad.  Simple mistakes can be amplified and
obfuscated.  Just ask Microsoft.  They got dropped off the net for days
several years ago after someone misconfigured a firewall so their slaves
couldn't talk to their master and the TTL (Time To Live) expired several
hours after the guilty party was off duty and had gone home.  On top of
that, they had all their public name servers on the same subnet
(violation of several BCPs going back decades) compounding the problem
AND opening them up to a DOS against the router leading into that
subnet.

We (IETF, IEEE, ACM, etc al) can publish and update BCPs but it doesn't
mean people will follow them.  It does mean that we can say we told you
not to do that... after it breaks.  You pays your nickel and you takes
your chance.  :-/

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Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install

2013-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 I don't' know anything about this book or publisher, but you really

 Les, you don't know O'Reilly? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. Almost
 every programmer I know, and every admin, had somewhere between one
 O'Reilly book and a full shelf of them. (No, I'm not getting a kickback
 from O'Reilly).

Oh sorry, I missed that.   Yes, I do respect O'Reilly as a technical
publisher (and have enjoyed the OSCON conferences several times).
But, these days there are so many books on so many topics that even
being published by O'Reilly isn't a guarantee that one will meet any
particular needs.

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Re: [CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread Yves S. Garret
Hi, thanks for your response.

One more question.  Would I need to have logical volumes or can I get away
with
having one massive volume/partition and then have everything on that one
partition?

In the interim I'll have a directory in / that I can use to just dump stuff
in and will
rebuild my machine at a later date.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Timo Schoeler
timo.schoe...@riscworks.netwrote:

 On 04/01/2013 09:00 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I did df -h on my CentOS 6.4 machine.
 
  $ df -h FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_root 47G  8.8G   36G  20% / tmpfs
  948M  372K  947M   1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 485M   62M  398M
  14% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_home 4.6G  2.7G  1.7G  63% /home
 
  What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I
  re-partition this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?

 You'd have to resize the logical volumes your FS lives on (here:
 vg_ysg-lv_root and vg_ysg-lv_home) and resize the FS as well.

 Can be done booting off a rescue medium w/o any problems. Make sure you
 do have a complete backup, though.

 HTH,

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Re: [CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread m . roth
Yves S. Garret wrote:
 Hi, thanks for your response.

 One more question.  Would I need to have logical volumes or can I get away
 with having one massive volume/partition and then have everything on
 that one partition?

 In the interim I'll have a directory in / that I can use to just dump
 stuff in and will rebuild my machine at a later date.

You can - in fact, that's what we do here at work... BUT: we have *all*
home directories NFS mounted, and we do online backups on mounted
filesystems that are NOT /. It's really ugly when /var/log fills up /

  mark

PS: please don't top post.

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Timo Schoeler
 timo.schoe...@riscworks.netwrote:

 On 04/01/2013 09:00 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I did df -h on my CentOS 6.4 machine.
 
  $ df -h FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_root 47G  8.8G   36G  20% / tmpfs
  948M  372K  947M   1% /dev/shm /dev/sda1 485M   62M  398M
  14% /boot /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_home 4.6G  2.7G  1.7G  63% /home
 
  What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I
  re-partition this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?

 You'd have to resize the logical volumes your FS lives on (here:
 vg_ysg-lv_root and vg_ysg-lv_home) and resize the FS as well.

 Can be done booting off a rescue medium w/o any problems. Make sure you
 do have a complete backup, though.

 HTH,

 Timo
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Re: [CentOS] DNS forwarding vs recursion

2013-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Michael H. Warfield m...@wittsend.com wrote:

 AFA how BIND should be shipped...  Last time I looked (just a couple of
 days ago) BIND ships in a fairly secure manner (local caching resolver
 listening on localhost only) and the default IP tables blocks DNS
 queries and response that are not on-session.  The OP mentioned that his
 name server was an authoritative name server (it was servicing a zone
 for which it was configured).  That's NOT a shipped configuration.  You
 have to configure it for a zone.  Sooo...  We are NOT talking about OOB
 (Out Of the Box) configurations here at all.  Someone had to
 configuration it this way, post installation.

So everyone has to add your own zones.  I don't see how that leads to
the conclusion that it is shipped with appropriate defaults to
force/encourage separation of authoritative/recursive instances.

   I don't think that's the answer either.
  Establishing best practices and discouraging people from misconfiguring
  applications would seem to be a better option and best current practices
  now were not always considered best practices 20 years ago.  It's a
  challenge.  It's a BIG challenge in my business.

 OK, but of course it is a challenge if you advocate using tools that
 most people don't have or understand - or don't work universally.

 Don't have: Disagree - most have.

Where?   I'd say it is much more common for firewalls to be separate
entities that don't know much about routing.

 Don't understand: I'll grant you that.  They don't understand the tools,
 they don't understand the problem, and they don't understand best
 current practices.  You got me on that one.  There in lies the problem
 and the challenge.

Exactly.  If you can't clearly define the problem or a required
topology you can't expect people to re-arrange things.

   Asymmetric
  routes (aka triangular routing) should be severely discourage and is
  generally considered a configuration error unless it's heavily
  justified.

 I don't think BGP shares this opinion.

 I'm not sure I follow you on that statement.  BGP is a protocol and I've
 done some coding on that (I'm the author of the MD5 signature code in
 bgpd of the Quagga suite).  The crowd on NANOG (North American Network
 Operators Group) generally frowns upon asymmetric routing as something
 that is occasionally necessary and unavoidable but not admitted to
 loudly in public, much akin to an aunt that like to sit in the corner of
 a room at a party and frequently farts loudly.

Are you saying that something in BGP cares about anything except the
best forward path seen at the moment?  Or that as this changes
dynamically it even tries to keep the reverse path symmetrical?

 Asymmetric routing also breaks
 stateful firewalls badly if they are in the way...

Sure.  Do you want reliability or control?  Pick one.

 And I'd speculate that the
 simplicity of IP routing only needing to care about the forward route
 direction one hop at a time is the main reason that it became the
 network of choice.  Well, that and a taxpayer funded directory service
 from the start.

 This was very true back then but proved to be as problematical as
 spoofing attacks abusing the DNS resolvers.  Both are rooted in the
 early ages of the Internet.  Fascinating that you bring up that point.

Packets are packets - the concepts of widely distributed, widely
available transports aren't going to change, we just do it faster now.

 Counter point is in the policy routing present in modern systems and
 that IPsec in particular is a policy oriented VPN where triangular /
 asymmetric routing frequently break.

Hence the continuing popularity of ssl-based VPNs that work better
under real-world conditions.   OpenVPN,  Juniper's, etc.

 I would concur with that.  I think that's part and parcel of
 establishing your nominal security perimeters anyways.

Maybe - as organizations grow, merge, relocate, etc. it becomes hard
to deal with perimeters or to assume that all the bad guys are
outside.

 So you envision an internet where it is impossible to reach a
 recursive resolver outside of your own organization's control?

 Not impossible and not under your own organizations control.
 Certainly, ISPs provide recursers for their clients.

Yeah, but they mostly do that so they can redirect failed lookups to
their own search engines or link farms and show some ads.  As though
web browsers were the only clients for DNS.

 But...  What is
 the purpose of an indeterminant anonymous client connecting to your
 recursive server and making arbitrary queries?

Use case:  You provide a subscription service to institutions that
like strict outbound firewalling.   Your servers are located in a few
contiguous ranges and you work with their firewall admins to permit
access.  Then you find out that the desktop clients in question don't
have access to full internet DNS.

 Yes, there are some of
 us who are involved in Internet infrastructure and maintenance 

Re: [CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread Keith Keller
On 2013-04-01, Yves S. Garret yoursurrogate...@gmail.com wrote:

 $ df -h
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_root
47G  8.8G   36G  20% /
 tmpfs 948M  372K  947M   1% /dev/shm
 /dev/sda1 485M   62M  398M  14% /boot
 /dev/mapper/vg_ysg-lv_home
   4.6G  2.7G  1.7G  63% /home

 What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I re-partition
 this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?

I doubt anyone can tell you why /home is so tiny.  But depending on the
filesystem used, you may be able to resize on the fly, without even
needing a reboot.  The LVM HOWTO is a bit out of date, but describes the
process here:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html

Growing XFS filesystems online is required; they can't be grown offline.
Growing ext4 online should be easy, but I've only tested it once in
CentOS 6.  As Timo notes, you should have a backup before proceeding in
any case.

I believe there are GUI tools to manipulate LVM and filesystems
(system-config-lvm IIRC), but I haven't used this tool so can't give you
any helpful guidance.

You can put everything on one filesystem if you wish.  This is mostly a
matter of personal taste for many desktop uses (and some server uses).

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Re: [CentOS] Don't understand how to re-partition this setup or why it was made like this

2013-04-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/1/2013 12:00 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:
 What I don't understand is why is /home so tiny and how can I re-partition
 this without having to nuke and rebuild my machine?

what do you get from

 # vgs

?

if there's VFree, you can lvextend the backing LV behind /home, then 
grow the file system to use that additional space.

# lvextend -L +8G vg_ysg/lv_home
# resize2fs /home

if there's no VFree, and you want everything in /   you could reboot to 
single user mode, and do something like...

# cd /
# mkdir /home2
# mv /home/* /home2   # this will take awhile
# umount /home
# rmdir /home
# mv /home2 /home

and vi /etc/fstab and remove the mount for /home

now, you can lvremove vg_ysg/lv_home   to free up the space it used 
(will probably need a --force), then lvextend the vg_ysg/lv_root volume, 
and grow /that/ file system to suit.

note.  I typed all that off the top of my head.  TRUST NOTHING, VERIFY 
EVERYTHING, UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF EVERY COMMAND YOU ARE DOING!!!  
Caveat Emptor.




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[CentOS] [Possibly OT] - General question: state of internet traffic

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur

Greetings,

I've read reports that there has been degradation in Internet traffic over
the last month. Until today, I haven't experienced any. However, getting
bank record data from chase.com here in NYC seems impossible.

I also noticed erratic ftp behavior today; connections can be made but
data can't be transferred. This isn't consistent, though.

(I have a machine in LA while being in NYC; ftp traffic is difficult to 
establish westbound; no problem eastbound).

I haven't done any sort of consistent test, so I am not sounding alarms.
I'm just trying to get a sense of where this is happening.
And is there a reliable source of information.

Much thanks

Max Pyziur
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Re: [CentOS] [Possibly OT] - General question: state of internet traffic

2013-04-01 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 18:04 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
 Greetings,

 I've read reports that there has been degradation in Internet traffic over
 the last month. Until today, I haven't experienced any. However, getting
 bank record data from chase.com here in NYC seems impossible.

/me trying not to laugh...

Yeah, there have been some problems over the last couple of weeks.  You
might review this list for the DNS thread.  Seems that SpamHaus and
Cyberbunker got into a pissing contest with some of the Cyberbunker
sympathizers (not I) directing a DDoS attack against them exploiting
open DNS resolvers around the net to the tune of upwards of 300Gbps
against Spamhaus.

 I also noticed erratic ftp behavior today; connections can be made but
 data can't be transferred. This isn't consistent, though.

 (I have a machine in LA while being in NYC; ftp traffic is difficult to 
 establish westbound; no problem eastbound).

Might check out the Internet Health Report here:

http://www.internetpulse.net/

Pretty much everything looks reasonable.  Nothing red.  No major
congestion, ATM.

 I haven't done any sort of consistent test, so I am not sounding alarms.
 I'm just trying to get a sense of where this is happening.
 And is there a reliable source of information.

 Much thanks

 Max Pyziur
 p...@brama.com

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] [Possibly OT] - General question: state of internet traffic

2013-04-01 Thread Stephen Harris
 the last month. Until today, I haven't experienced any. However, getting
 bank record data from chase.com here in NYC seems impossible.

What do you mean by getting bank record data ?

Every major US bank is under a constant DoS attack, which sometimes causes
the sites to be slow.  This is unrelated to the little squabble going on
between SpamHaus and CyberBunker, though.

 (I have a machine in LA while being in NYC; ftp traffic is difficult to 
 establish westbound; no problem eastbound).

I'm in NJ and able to contact servers in Fremont, Dallas, NYC and
Amsterdam without any issue.  I suspect you have local issues.

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Re: [CentOS] Can't find root device with lvm root after moving drive on CentOS 6.3

2013-04-01 Thread Joakim Ziegler
On 30/03/13 7:18, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
 On 29/03/13 10:38, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 On 03/29/2013 01:23 AM, Joakim Ziegler wrote:
 Immediately after getting dropped to rdshell, I looked around in /dev,
 which brought me a few surprises...

 /dev/mapper contains only control, that is, vg_resolve02-lv_root is
 missing.

 Did you get to look at or for /dev/vg_resolve02 as well?

 /dev/root is a symlink to /dev/dm-0

 Does /dev/dm-0 exist?

 Does the system boot if you just exit from the rdshell?  What about if
 you vgchange -a y without changing the symlink?

 I checked this a bit more thoroughly. The status is as follows:

 When I boot up and get dropped to rdshell, neither /dev/root nor
 /dev/vg_resolve02, nor /dev/dm-0 exist. Just exiting at this point drops
 me back into rdshell. Waiting a few minutes makes no difference.

 Doing lvm vgscan finds the volume group, but creates no device nodes.
 Just exiting at this point drops me back into rdshell as well.

 When I do lvm vgchange -ay, /dev/dm-0 is created, /dev/root is created
 as a symlink to it, as well as /dev/vg_resolve02/ with lv_root inside
 it, and /dev/mapper/vg_resolve02-lv_root. I don't need to change the
 symlink or do anything else, if I exit after doing lvm vgchange -ay,
 everything is ok.


 That means /dev/root already is correct, so the only thing I'm actually
 changing to make the system boot is to scan for volume groups and
 activate them.

 The big question then becomes: Why do I have to do this manually? How do
 I make Dracut (I assume this is Dracut's job) make this automatically?

 udev should be doing this.  And... I was just looking at this again,
 because the last time I came up with nothing useful.  Look at
 /usr/share/dracut/modules.d/90lvm/64-lvm.rules.  If I'm reading this
 correctly, udev will look for dm-0 in /sys and will not run lvm_scan if
 it's found.  I wonder if it's possible that the /sys nodes are getting
 set up, but device-mapper isn't setting up the nodes in /dev?

 It turns out I was wrong about dm-0 already existing, it's created on
 vgchange -ay. I'm looking at the file you mention, but I'm afraid I
 don't know LVM well enough to make that much sense of it. From what I
 can tell, it calls lvm_scan for each device, and there's an lvm_scan.sh
 in there that looks like it should be doing lvchange -ay, but if dm-0
 doesn't already exist, I don't think this will do anything, am I wrong?


 I'm really at a loss...  it seems like a much simpler explanation is
 simply that the devices take so long to detect that init gives up.  When
 you run vgchange, they've had the time they need.  That idea is
 inconsistent with the fact that your dmesg output shows what I assume is
 the correct devices and partition tables.

 You could try adding rdinitdebug rdudevdebug to your kernel command
 line, but you're going to see a LOT of output, and it's only really
 going to be meaningful if you've read the /init script that Dracut
 creates, and understand more or less what it's doing, particularly in
 the main_loop section.

 I can try this, but it might be a bit beyond my area of expertise, I'm
 afraid.

 If I were to just try a brute force approach, what RPM packages should I
 reinstall/update to get all this stuff reinstalled as it was the first
 time I installed the system?

Just bumping this up, any ideas about this? It's a little annoying not 
having this box boot by itself...

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[CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur

Greetings,

Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing to my 
CentOS 6 machine:
ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
connect failed: No route to host.
connect failed: No route to host.
connect failed: No route to host.
Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or transfer 
data/files.

I'm flummoxed.

What I had been doing is adding more directives to my /etc/hosts.deny 
file, today to include certain categories of ip addresses for the vsftpd 
service.

I unwound that after I saw the problem starting to occur, and have 
restarted vsftpd several times.

That hasn't changed the above issue.

And yes, I've googled.

My firewall setting has port 21 open.

I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

and I get a response indicating that the port is open.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Much thanks.

Max Pyziur
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Re: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



 Am 02.04.2013 01:12, schrieb Max Pyziur:
 Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing to my
 CentOS 6 machine:
 ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

 I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or transfer
 data/files

 My firewall setting has port 21 open

 I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

 and you understood that ftp needs also a data-channel
 and not only the control-connection?

I assume that you are referring to the following vsftpd configuration file 
setting:
# Make sure PORT transfer connections originate from port 20 (ftp-data).
connect_from_port_20=YES


Btw, When ftping to another user on the same machine, there is no problem 
in making a connection or in transferring data; it's connections that our 
outside the box.


 http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html




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Re: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013, lists-centos wrote:



  Original Message 
 Date: Monday, April 01, 2013 07:12:53 PM -0400
 From: Max Pyziur p...@brama.com
 To: centos@centos.org
 Cc:
 Subject: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem


 Greetings,

 Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing
 to my  CentOS 6 machine:
 ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

 I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or
 transfer  data/files.

 I'm flummoxed.

 What I had been doing is adding more directives to my
 /etc/hosts.deny  file, today to include certain categories of ip
 addresses for the vsftpd  service.

 I unwound that after I saw the problem starting to occur, and have
 restarted vsftpd several times.

 That hasn't changed the above issue.

 And yes, I've googled.

 My firewall setting has port 21 open.

 I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

 and I get a response indicating that the port is open.

 Any advice would be appreciated.

 Much thanks.

 Max Pyziur
 p...@brama.com

 ftp uses port 21 for the connection and port 20 for the data,
 which includes directory listings as well as the file transfer
 proper - see /etc/services. so if you have port 20 blocked that
 would explain your problem.

Does port 20 have to be open in the firewall? If so, this would be the 
first machine where I have explicitly set this.


   - Richard





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Re: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem - followup

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



 Am 02.04.2013 01:12, schrieb Max Pyziur:
 Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing to my
 CentOS 6 machine:
 ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

 I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or transfer
 data/files

 My firewall setting has port 21 open

 I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

 and you understood that ftp needs also a data-channel
 and not only the control-connection?

 http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html

When ftping to the machine, the following is reported from an lsof -i:
  ~ lsof -i | grep ftp
vsftpd18051 root3u  IPv4 47313973  0t0  TCP *:ftp (LISTEN)
vsftpd18448   nobody0u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)
vsftpd18448   nobody1u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)
vsftpd18448   nobody2u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)
vsftpd18465 pyz20u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)
vsftpd18465 pyz21u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)
vsftpd18465 pyz22u  IPv4 47318710  0t0  TCP 
brama.com:ftp-pool-72-89-118-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net:50298 
(ESTABLISHED)

fyi,

MP
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Re: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



 Am 02.04.2013 01:25, schrieb Max Pyziur:
 On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



 Am 02.04.2013 01:12, schrieb Max Pyziur:
 Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing to my
 CentOS 6 machine:
 ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

 I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or transfer
 data/files

 My firewall setting has port 21 open

 I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

 and you understood that ftp needs also a data-channel
 and not only the control-connection?

 I assume that you are referring to the following vsftpd configuration file 
 setting:
 # Make sure PORT transfer connections originate from port 20 (ftp-data).
 connect_from_port_20=YES

 no - port 20 has NOTHING t do with passive FTP

 Btw, When ftping to another user on the same machine, there is no problem in
 making a connection or in transferring data

 beause it is nor firewalled nor NAted

 it's connections that our outside the box.

 i bet you are behind a nat

 iptables or the firewall needs to translate he answers of the servers
 you need to read some documentations how FTP works and how NAT
 works to undersatdn the details

Ok.

 [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config
 # Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers)
 #   Default: -none-
 # Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp ip_nat_irc'), which
 # are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the helpers are
 # stored in /etc/modprobe.conf.
 IPTABLES_MODULES=nf_conntrack_ftp nf_nat_ftp

So, are you saying this last line is key?

Because on the CentOS 5 setup I see:
IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack_netbios_ns ip_conntrack_ftp

While on the CentOS 6 setup I see:
IPTABLES_MODULES=

What is the correct/recommended setting?

 http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html




Max Pyziur
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[CentOS] [SOLVED] it was an iptables-config setting, was Re: Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Max Pyziur
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:



 Am 02.04.2013 02:04, schrieb Max Pyziur:
 [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config
 # Load additional iptables modules (nat helpers)
 #   Default: -none-
 # Space separated list of nat helpers (e.g. 'ip_nat_ftp ip_nat_irc'), which
 # are loaded after the firewall rules are applied. Options for the helpers 
 are
 # stored in /etc/modprobe.conf.
 IPTABLES_MODULES=nf_conntrack_ftp nf_nat_ftp

 So, are you saying this last line is key?

 it is on my fedora machines acting as FTP behind a NAT

 Because on the CentOS 5 setup I see:
 IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack_netbios_ns ip_conntrack_ftp

 While on the CentOS 6 setup I see:
 IPTABLES_MODULES=

 What is the correct/recommended setting?

 there is no correct/recommended setting

 if you are behind a NAT you need a different config as if you are
 have a public IP on your machine, that is why configs exists

Not behind a NAT ...

 with passive FTP the server anserwers with port AND ip-address
 for the data-connection (which is a idiotic design but it is how
 it is) and if the client follows this response it fails

 so the way to go is translate the response in whatever
 stateful filter in fornt of the FTP server

 this is called ALG (application layer gateway) and part
 of any relieable stateful packet filter

Adding the following line to /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config got me home:
IPTABLES_MODULES=ip_conntrack_ftp

Along with the above dialogue, the following page helped (me):
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/iptables-configuration-for-passive-ftp-connection-633774/

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Vsftpd configuration problem

2013-04-01 Thread Banyan He
Hi Max,

It looks like a network issue instead of the software. Falling back to 
PORT sounds like to ACTIVE mode from PASV mode. In PASV, you will be 
connecting to a random port told by server with a random port from your 
side. Do you have a firewall to block such traffic that the system will 
send out port unreachable ICMP?

Maybe you can do a tcpdump to see what it is going on. For PASV, you can 
only use host client and host server and tcp and not port 22 as 
the filter. It's not effective but it will collect what you want to 
locate the issue.

Best regards,


Banyan He
Blog: http://www.rootong.com
Email: ban...@rootong.com

On 4/2/2013 7:12 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
 Greetings,

 Beginning today, I started to receive the following when ftp'ing to my
 CentOS 6 machine:
 ncftp /home/pyz2  dir
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 connect failed: No route to host.
 Falling back to PORT instead of PASV mode.

 I can make a connection, but I can't get a directory listing or transfer
 data/files.

 I'm flummoxed.

 What I had been doing is adding more directives to my /etc/hosts.deny
 file, today to include certain categories of ip addresses for the vsftpd
 service.

 I unwound that after I saw the problem starting to occur, and have
 restarted vsftpd several times.

 That hasn't changed the above issue.

 And yes, I've googled.

 My firewall setting has port 21 open.

 I can remotely telnet to hostname 21

 and I get a response indicating that the port is open.

 Any advice would be appreciated.

 Much thanks.

 Max Pyziur
 p...@brama.com
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[CentOS] Repartitioning issues - advice needed, and info.

2013-04-01 Thread Bruce Whealton
Hello all,
   I have a couple problems with two Centos installs.  One is my
Dedicated hosting plan.  I have been trying very hard to build some strong
skills in system administration because the task apparently is more complex
than I imagined... or it appeared that way to a web developer, who reported
he was not a system admin and so even though he could do quite a bit on the
server - more than I could at the time - he felt my task of needing to fix a
partitioning problem on my systems needed to be referred to a system
administrator ( a role I'm trying to take on).  
   On my dedicated server, I have had a couple partitions that are quite
often full and one of them tends to fill up very quickly now.  The other
partition, I believe the /var partition seems ok now that I have moved most
of my accounts elsewhere.  I believe the databases were there and so by
moving accounts elsewhere, much space was freed up.  Not it is the /etc
partition that is full every other day.  It is a 10GB partition and most of
the data is in the mail spool directories.  I don't have many accounts, so
I'm not sure how to fix the issue.  I get thousands of spam messages and
yet, I just realized, they don't seem to be going to the email addresses I
have on that particular dedicated server - or the domains hosted there.  All
manner of problems develop when this happens. 
  So, this is on a 500GB disk with a good bit of free space, such as
in the home partitions.  My domains are setup like this:
/home/username/public_html.  So, If I setup the domain mydomain.com, I'd use
a username of mydom.  Anyway, this partition has available space on it.  How
can I (maybe?) shrink one partition, moving files as necessary, and then
increase the storage size for the 10GB partitions, /etc and /var?  Can this
be done without breaking things?  
 Second issue...  My business/development server...  Centos 6.4.  I
cannot boot into it now because the /tmp partition is full.  Most of the
fixes I found online involve what you do once you boot into it.  Initially I
was getting an error about Power Management and googling this turned up
info. Saying that a disk partition is full.  Indeed, checking the boot log,
that was the case.  It could not create files in the /tmp
partition/directory - no more space.  So, I was trying to get to a place
where I could delete some tmp files as a first step.  Since I cannot boot
up, and didn't know what to do from grub to address the issue, I tried
booting to live CD.  The files are locked, of course, and/or protected, or I
don't have permission to delete anything. Is there any way to from adjust
the size of the different partitions, shrink some space in one partition and
expand it/reclaim it elsewhere, e.g. the /etc partition?  Again, I cannot
boot to the desktop.  I got as far as the grub boot loader and didn't find
anything that would let me adjust partitions.

Thanks in advance for any help,
Bruce
 

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Re: [CentOS] Repartitioning issues - advice needed, and info.

2013-04-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 4/1/2013 5:54 PM, Bruce Whealton wrote:
 Not it is the /etc
 partition that is full every other day.  It is a 10GB partition and most of
 the data is in the mail spool directories.

the /etc directory A) shouldn't be a separate partition, it should be on 
/ and B) should just contain system configuration files, in no way 
should there be anything like mail spools in there.the standard 
place for mail spools is /var/spool/mail

the rest of your message was just a little too run on and too many 
different things jammed together for me to want to make sense of.



-- 
john r pierce  37N 122W
somewhere on the middle of the left coast

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