Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On Sat, 04 May 2013 13:53:53 +, Rock wrote:
> $ sudo yum install kdepim -y
Well, it's installed. A bunch of junk came with knode, so, that's
definitely unfortunate. Here's a log of the setup results:
$ knode -v
==> Qt: 4.6.2, KDE: 4.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4), KNode: 4.3.5
$ knode &
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Identity->
Name = foo
Email Address = foo@is.invalid
{Knode}Settings->Configure Knode->Accounts->Newsgroup Servers->Add
Name = Mixmin
Server = news.mixmin.net
Port = 563
Encyryption = SSL
{Knode}Article->Post to Newsgroup
Groups = alt.test
Followups to = alt.test
Subject = test
Body = test
File->Send Now
Unfortunately, there is no error message (that I could see), yet it failed
to post. It even failed to obtain the group list (so the problem is
earlier in the setup).
I'm debugging (without any debugging tools) ...
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On Sun, 05 May 2013 07:09:01 +, Rock wrote: > I'm debugging (without any debugging tools) ... I was easily able to post to Aioe using Knode: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853710/img/12853710.png So, it must be the Mixmin SSL setup that's bad. Do you see anything wrong with this Mixmin setup? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853732/img/12853732.png ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Why?? NFS cached permissions groups etc
An hour of my life disapeared and my beautiful uptime was rebooted and it was fixed by reading http://serverfault.com/questions/98900/is-a-reboot-required-to-refresh-permissio ns-after-adding-a-user-to-a-new-group #/home is mounted from a NFS export [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt ~jobs/userstest.txt afasdasd cat: /home/jobs/test.txt: Permission denied Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT 2013 why does this fix the issue? [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ newgrp jobs [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt ~jobs/userstest.txt afasdasd Sun May 5 02:27:17 EDT 2013 Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT 2013 [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why?? NFS cached permissions groups etc
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Pyeron > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 3:36 > > An hour of my life disapeared and my beautiful uptime was > rebooted and it was > fixed by reading > http://serverfault.com/questions/98900/is-a-reboot-required-to-refresh-permissio ns-after-adding-a-user-to-a-new-group > > #/home is mounted from a NFS export > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt > ~jobs/userstest.txt > afasdasd > > cat: /home/jobs/test.txt: Permission denied > Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT 2013 > > > why does this fix the issue? > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ newgrp jobs > Hmmm, logging out and then back in the problem comes back again. I cannot reboot the NFS server but I think that would fix it. [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ stat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt ~jobs/userstest.txt File: `/tmp/jobs/foo.txt' Size: 10 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: fd01h/64769dInode: 139769 Links: 1 Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: (56736/jobs) Access: 2013-05-05 02:56:55.480608527 -0400 Modify: 2013-05-05 02:56:35.487608647 -0400 Change: 2013-05-05 02:56:44.924607727 -0400 File: `/home/jobs/test.txt' Size: 29 Blocks: 16 IO Block: 1048576 regular file Device: 13h/19d Inode: 13058227Links: 1 Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: (56736/jobs) Access: 2013-05-05 02:27:17.0 -0400 Modify: 2013-05-05 02:27:17.0 -0400 Change: 2013-05-05 02:57:25.0 -0400 File: `/home/jobs/userstest.txt' Size: 29 Blocks: 16 IO Block: 1048576 regular file Device: 13h/19d Inode: 13058228Links: 1 Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: ( 100/ users) Access: 2013-05-05 03:20:36.0 -0400 Modify: 2013-05-05 03:20:36.0 -0400 Change: 2013-05-05 03:21:11.0 -0400 [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ > > > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt > ~jobs/userstest.txt > afasdasd > > Sun May 5 02:27:17 EDT 2013 > Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT 2013 > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ > > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:39:24 +, Stef wrote: > Try xpn. On Sat, 04 May 2013 10:49:46 +, J G Miller wrote: > you can get the source code from > http://xpn.altervista.ORG/index-en.html Since no easily-found repository existed for xpn: $ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media,\*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/xpn" REPORTS: No Matches found I downloaded version 1.2.6 from: http://xpn.altervista.org/codice/xpn-1.2.6.tar.gz As suggested, I simply extracted and executed "xpny.py" to start xpn, and the setup was as easy as I would have expected an NNTP setup to be. I simply set up the minimum user & server information: http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853990/img/12853990.png Fetched the list of available groups for that server: http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853992/img/12853992.png And, then posted to the alt.test newsgroup: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12853993/img/12853993.png Unlike Thunderbird & Knode (which were nntp-horrid for different reasons) it was that easy (as it should be) on xpn to post using port 553 SSL native! Thanks! SUMMARY: Linux native SSL NNTP clients: a) xpn (worked on the first pass after a simple and intuitive NNTP setup)! b) Knode (problematic - didn't work on first pass & provided no error messages) c) Thunderbird (problematic - setup was not intuitive and didn't work for me) d) Pan 0.136 (problematic - requires compilation - which often fails for me) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] unprivileged users rebooting at console
I'm curious why any user logged in at the console can issue the 'reboot' command and reboot the system. I've tested/verified this to work, and read some older posts about this. If it were a bug, I suspect it would be fixed by now. Also, if a user is logged into the console, and then logs in via ssh from another system, that user can also reboot the system from that ssh connection. It would seem that once a user authenticates on the console, and remains on the console, they can reboot from any other/new tty. Once they drop off the console, the ssh connections can no longer reboot. If this is by design, why? Thanks! Regards, Joseph Spenner --- If life gives you lemons, keep them-- because hey.. free lemons. "~heart~ Sticker" fixer: http://microflush.org/stuff/stickers/heartFix.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unprivileged users rebooting at console
On May 5, 2013 6:39 AM, "Joseph Spenner" wrote: > > I'm curious why any user logged in at the console can issue the 'reboot' command and reboot the system. I've tested/verified this to work, and read some older posts about this. If it were a bug, I suspect it would be fixed by now. > Also, if a user is logged into the console, and then logs in via ssh from another system, that user can also reboot the system from that ssh connection. It would seem that once a user authenticates on the console, and remains on the console, they can reboot from any other/new tty. Once they drop off the console, the ssh connections can no longer reboot. > > If this is by design, why? > > Thanks! "Consolekit" Users with physical acces have higher capabilities in software because, well, physical access is root access. Also, that configuration works better for workstation installations; imagine if a user couldn't shut down their laptop safely because they didn't have admin privileges on the system. (Sorry for brief response; sending from phone.) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On 05.Mai.2013, at 08:37, Rock wrote:
> On Fri, 03 May 2013 12:32:28 +0200, Markus Falb wrote:
>
>> What exactly do you mean with that?
>
> When setting up Thunderbird for NNTP, TB asked questions like
> "incoming and outgoing user name", which are meaningless for NNTP
> (AFAIK); and TB didn't give any place to add any other server than
> an SMTP server; and even then, it didn't allow for a port change
> to 563.
>
> I'm sure if I dug further into the TB setup I could set it up for
> NNTP, but it was extremely clear (like bright blinding sunlight),
> that either I was in the wrong setup or that TB wasn't meant for
> USENET news ease of use.
I think that with thunderbird you get a kind of first start setup wizard.
*skip that* ("I think I'll configure my account later")
Preferences (you *will* find that ;-) -> Account Settings -> Account Actions ->
Add Other Account -> Newsgroup account
Afterwards you can set SSL/TLS
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 18:20 +, Rock wrote: > ... > Q: What nntp client handles SSL native on Centos 6? evolution -- Markus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Why?? NFS cached permissions groups etc
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Pyeron > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 3:42 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Pyeron > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 3:36 > > > > An hour of my life disapeared and my beautiful uptime was > rebooted and > > it was fixed by reading > > > http://serverfault.com/questions/98900/is-a-reboot-required-to-refresh-permissio ns-after-adding-a-user-to-a-new-group > > > > #/home is mounted from a NFS export > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt > > ~jobs/userstest.txt afasdasd > > > > cat: /home/jobs/test.txt: Permission denied Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT > > 2013 Reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/409366 told I might have been in too many groups, trimming the list down worked. Wish I read https://xkyle.com/solving-the-nfs-16-group-limit-problem/ first. > > > > > > why does this fix the issue? > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ newgrp jobs > > > > Hmmm, logging out and then back in the problem comes back > again. I cannot reboot the NFS server but I think that would fix it. > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ stat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt > ~jobs/userstest.txt > File: `/tmp/jobs/foo.txt' > Size: 10 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 > regular file > Device: fd01h/64769dInode: 139769 Links: 1 > Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: > (56736/jobs) > Access: 2013-05-05 02:56:55.480608527 -0400 > Modify: 2013-05-05 02:56:35.487608647 -0400 > Change: 2013-05-05 02:56:44.924607727 -0400 > File: `/home/jobs/test.txt' > Size: 29 Blocks: 16 IO Block: 1048576 > regular file > Device: 13h/19d Inode: 13058227Links: 1 > Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: > (56736/jobs) > Access: 2013-05-05 02:27:17.0 -0400 > Modify: 2013-05-05 02:27:17.0 -0400 > Change: 2013-05-05 02:57:25.0 -0400 > File: `/home/jobs/userstest.txt' > Size: 29 Blocks: 16 IO Block: 1048576 > regular file > Device: 13h/19d Inode: 13058228Links: 1 > Access: (0660/-rw-rw) Uid: (56736/jobs) Gid: ( > 100/ users) > Access: 2013-05-05 03:20:36.0 -0400 > Modify: 2013-05-05 03:20:36.0 -0400 > Change: 2013-05-05 03:21:11.0 -0400 [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ > > > > > > > > > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ cat /tmp/jobs/foo.txt ~jobs/test.txt > > ~jobs/userstest.txt afasdasd > > > > Sun May 5 02:27:17 EDT 2013 > > Sun May 5 03:20:36 EDT 2013 > > [jpyeron@node000 ~]$ -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Is there a good nntp client for Centos 6 that handles SSL native?
On Sun, 05 May 2013 14:34:36 +0200, Markus Falb wrote:
> I think that with thunderbird you get a kind of first start setup wizard.
> *skip that* ("I think I'll configure my account later")
>
> Preferences (you *will* find that ;-) -> Account Settings -> Account Actions
> -> Add Other Account -> Newsgroup account
> Afterwards you can set SSL/TLS
Thanks. In the end, I'm using XPN, which, after a quick, intuitive, and
simple setup, was posting immediately with native SSL to mixmin.net.
I've learned, after testing perhaps hundreds of freeware solutions,
over the years, to try once... try again... and then quickly move on
to the next one if it fails twice. Usually, after two or three
different packages, if well chosen, the task is accomplished.
In this case...
1. I first tried Pan 0.135, which worked with stunnel - but problematically.
2. Then, I tried Thunderbird, which had a non-intuitive setup (to me).
3. I then tried Knode, which had problematic bloat & it didn't work anyway.
4. I could have learned how to compile Pan version 0.136 - but that's
problematic.
5. Instead, I downloaded & executed xpn, which was simple to set up & worked!
Woo hoo!
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Re: [CentOS] unprivileged users rebooting at console
How are you rebooting? What groups are you in? From the command line? When I try this on Ubuntu (don't have a RHEL/CentOS here) I get "Have to be root" if I issue the /sbin/reboot command as an ordinary user. Cheers, Cliff On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Joseph Spenner wrote: > I'm curious why any user logged in at the console can issue the 'reboot' > command and reboot the system. I've tested/verified this to work, and read > some older posts about this. If it were a bug, I suspect it would be fixed > by now. > Also, if a user is logged into the console, and then logs in via ssh from > another system, that user can also reboot the system from that ssh > connection. It would seem that once a user authenticates on the console, > and remains on the console, they can reboot from any other/new tty. Once > they drop off the console, the ssh connections can no longer reboot. > > If this is by design, why? > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Joseph Spenner > > --- > > > If life gives you lemons, keep them-- because hey.. free lemons. > "~heart~ Sticker" fixer: > http://microflush.org/stuff/stickers/heartFix.html > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unprivileged users rebooting at console
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:20:31AM +1200, Cliff Pratt wrote: > How are you rebooting? What groups are you in? From the command line? When > I try this on Ubuntu (don't have a RHEL/CentOS here) I get "Have to be > root" if I issue the /sbin/reboot command as an ordinary user. > > Cheers, > > Cliff Please try not to top post. Ubuntu and Debian require authorization to reboot. RedHat based distributions don't under various circumstances. I don't know what most other distributions do, the BSDs don't allow it, nor does ArchLinux. Whether it's something that's always been this way or just one more Fedora-ism aimed at the person fleeing Windows that made its way into RH, I have no idea. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] unprivileged users rebooting at console
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:20:31AM +1200, Cliff Pratt wrote: > > Please try not to top post. > > Sorry, I blame GMail, which hides the previous quoted posts under an ellipsis. Cheers, Cliff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
