Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
On 26 September 2014 07:24, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2014 19:39, "Jerry Geis" wrote: > > > > I used to use rc.local and just need a script to run AFTER everything > else > > has ran. > > no special start/stop/reload is needed... just a simple script. > > > > 1) you can still use /etc/rc.d/rc.local > 2) read the systemd.service man page and do a little learning. Thus is the > exact sort of scenario systemd units make trivial with very simple config > compared to writing a sysvinit script > To give an example of the systemd bit should you wish to try a unit file: cat > /etc/systemd/system/speciallittlesnowflake.service
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
On 26 Sep 2014 05:46, "Cliff Pratt" wrote: > > Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache > started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. There may > be other similar cases. So the best thing is to reboot. > This is false and a major misunderstanding of the vulnerability. 1) the vulnerability is just during initialisation of bash. Once it is running it is beyond the vulnerable stage and needs no restarting 2) in a CGI of #!/bin/bash or for a system call with any other language for CGI bash gets executed on demand... It does not do what you say... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
On 25 Sep 2014 19:39, "Jerry Geis" wrote: > > I used to use rc.local and just need a script to run AFTER everything else > has ran. > no special start/stop/reload is needed... just a simple script. > 1) you can still use /etc/rc.d/rc.local 2) read the systemd.service man page and do a little learning. Thus is the exact sort of scenario systemd units make trivial with very simple config compared to writing a sysvinit script ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
On 2014-09-26, Cliff Pratt wrote:
> Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache
> started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one.
Based on my (admittedly limited) testing I do not believe this is the
case. Apache exec()'s the interpreter on each request; it doesn't save
the interpreter into its memory space, so each subsequent call should
re-run the interpreter. That's one of the big reasons mod_perl and
their ilk are popular: they do put the interpreter into httpd's memory,
so the interpreter doesn't have to be called on each invocation.
I don't currently have a vulnerable interpreter available on a web
server, but on the servers where I have an updated bash, the
"vulnerable" message that's produced by the example code doesn't show
up in a bash CGI on a web server I haven't restarted.
# example code
env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
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Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
I didn't notice you had mentioned CGI. CGI (and PHP) is only one case where a copy of bash is loaded. There are many other possibilities, eg wrapper bash scripts, bash shell called from programs. I don't know whether or not there are any such cases on my machines, or if the exploit can be executed through them, so I'd say that the best way to be sure is to reboot. Cheers, Cliff On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Cliff Pratt wrote: > Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when > Apache started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. > There may be other similar cases. So the best thing is to reboot. > > Cheers, > > Cliff > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:39 AM, John Doe wrote: > >> If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix >> is planned? >> Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be >> rebooted... Really? >> Aside from cgi/php, just closing all shells isn't enough? >> >> >> Thx, >> JD >> >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. There may be other similar cases. So the best thing is to reboot. Cheers, Cliff On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:39 AM, John Doe wrote: > If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix > is planned? > Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be > rebooted... Really? > Aside from cgi/php, just closing all shells isn't enough? > > > Thx, > JD > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 7:32 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> > >> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo >> to my >> > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US >> gov't >> > agency (non-DoD) that we work at > >> li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. > > USA people are not too familiar with Europe which extends from the > Arctic circle (Svalbard, 81º North, Norwegian) to the Mediterranean, and > from the French coast to the Ural mountains in Russia. The 28 countries > of the EU have a population exceeding 800 million (the USA's is about > 307m). That leaves about 22 European countries not (yet) in the EU. > My take would be he just didn't focus on the domain name. Sysadmins usually decipher those into geographical location easily. I admire Europe: everybody speaks multiple languages. BTW one of our professors brought this joke when he came back from Europe. If I wasn't sure the joke has long-long beard I would think he made it up himself...: Person who speaks 2 languages: bilingual, 3 languages: trilingual; 1 language: American ;-) Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 18:16 +0200, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > > agency (non-DoD) that we work at > li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. USA people are not too familiar with Europe which extends from the Arctic circle (Svalbard, 81º North, Norwegian) to the Mediterranean, and from the French coast to the Ural mountains in Russia. The 28 countries of the EU have a population exceeding 800 million (the USA's is about 307m). That leaves about 22 European countries not (yet) in the EU. Paul England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, 2014-09-25 at 09:09 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. Extremely wise advice. Seems upstream do not always agree :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 25/09/14 18:18, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Jake Shipton wrote: >> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" >> attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted > nasties into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and > compared the code to the project source?" > > *I* would trust Nux... but a) I can't speak or set policy for my > organization[1][2], and b) I wouldn't feel comfortable committing > my organization to use it, and urging it on my users of my > division, and then someone hacks his repo. > > As an admin I used to work with liked to say, he was paid to be > professionally paranoid. Fair enough, same reason I do not use Windows at all anywhere :-). >> >> A suggestion for your picky boss: Custom repository. > > We have our own repo. However, there's *2.x* of us (my manager's > working with another Institute too much of the time these days), > and we do NOT want to have to maintain packages (don't even *ask* > me about my packaging of BioPerl). We want to yum update from > trusted repos Yeah, I know the feeling of that, I am the only IT guy in our company my job usually includes: 1) Build systems 2) Configure servers 3) Maintain servers 4) Configure desktops 5) Maintain desktops 6) Develop any homemade applications when and where necessary 7) Develop and maintain website 8) Process and deliver online orders 9) Reply to customer support emails 10) Occasionally be on shop front (Mostly weekends) and directly deal with customers. 11) Anything else as and where needed. Basically.. everything as I am part of a 3-way business partnership which only has 3 people working (Self employed). I literally work from when I wake up to when I go to bed. So I know what it's like to not have many people doing stuff, and I know it can be done, so maintaining your own repository is actually quite easy when there is two of you if you set up email notifications etc of when new packages are released, and assuming you don't put far to many packages in your own repo and keep it to the odd one or two where needed you should be able to maintain it fairly easily. :-) > >> This way each machine has the repository, and can install the >> extra packages. > > *snicker* Each machine. Right, I'm going to put a repo on ever > single server and workstation... and then maintain it. When nobody > actually works on their workstation, the work is supposed to be > done on servers, with home directories NFS mounted > > You're joking, right? > Nope quite serious, regarding installing the repo on the machines, create your own "release" package, then it's just the case of yum install . If you use PXE booting for new installs, just include it on the kickstart file and it will automatically be installed to any new systems. After that initial setup, you just install and update the packages the same as you would with any other repository package. Besides, I'm just offering a simple solution to your problem... Kind Regards, Jake Shipton (JakeMS) GPG Key: 0xE3C31D8F GPG Fingerprint: 7515 CC63 19BD 06F9 400A DE8A 1D0B A5CF E3C3 1D8F ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
On 2014-09-25, Steve Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > >> yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create >> directories >> after the first 2TB(?) fills up. Close, it's 1TB. But you won't be able to create *any* new inodes, directories or files. http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_inode64_mount_option_for.3F The FAQ suggests using inode64 for any filesystem larger than 1TB. You can probably get away with not using it for larger filesystems unless you're planning on having half of your filesystem be inodes. But 66TB practically requires inode64; it'd be insane not to use it. > I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications > won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bit > system, such as firefox and gnome. Are you exporting the root of the filesystem or using a nondefault fsid type? http://www.xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_NFS-exporting_subdirectories_of_inode64-mounted_filesystem_work.3F I think that if you're exporting a 66TB filesystem, and exporting to a 32bit client doesn't work, then you have to bite the bullet and not allow the 32bit client, or do something like create a smaller filesystem to export for 32bit clients. You really can't have such a large filesystem and not use inode64. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/25/2014 2:01 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create > directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bit system, such as firefox and gnome. even if you specify a <= 32bit fsid on the export? No, I did not specify the fsid in this case. -s ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] daemon for nfs client
Try this: http://www.databook.bz/?page_id=246 On 09/25/2014 05:13 PM, Dan Hyatt wrote: In days of old, in Solaris there was a daemon for NFS Client, and NFS server (actually several including portmap...). I am unable to find reference to the daemon that runs NFS client But the RedHat Documentation does not explain the NFS client daemon. Is this a service or something else. on centos6.5 I previously posted about a really weird root filesystem. It started on another non critical server. so I found out when I unmounted the NFS filesystem the problem went away. BUT the NFS filesystem will not remount. On the non critical server, an old windows trick "reboot fixes everything" brought NFS and the mount up clean no problems But I want to try and fix this on the critical server without a reboot. Is there a way to stop and start the NFS client like I can restart the NFS server? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- * David P. Both, RHCE Millennium Technology Consulting LLC Raleigh, NC, USA 919-389-8678 db...@millennium-technology.com www.millennium-technology.com www.databook.bz - Home of the DataBook for Linux DataBook is a Registered Trademark of David Both * This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: > >> yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories >> after the first 2TB(?) fills up. > > I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bit system, such as firefox and gnome. > That's one problem we don't have - I think even all the workstations, though some are > 5 yrs old, are all 64 bit. Thanks for the warning, though. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
On 9/25/2014 2:01 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bit system, such as firefox and gnome. even if you specify a <= 32bit fsid on the export? -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] LS command bizzare behavior
No it is not windows FS, this is a Hitachi Storage array managed by RedHat storage nodes. How do I clear client side NFS without a reboot (sorry about the cross post) For server side, it is simple service nfs restart. But it looks like redhat/centos no longer has a nfs client service. On 9/22/2014 6:09 PM, Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-09-22, Dan Hyatt wrote: So how do I fix it. If it is in fact client-side, you have to fix the client. If these are Windows NFS clients then I am not much help. Perhaps the maintainers of the NFS client software have heard of this issue. If you have Samba already set up, it might be interesting to see if the issue shows up there too. If it does, then it may not be a client-side issue. If it doesn't happen under Samba then it's more likely to be client-side NFS. --keith ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] daemon for nfs client
In days of old, in Solaris there was a daemon for NFS Client, and NFS server (actually several including portmap...). I am unable to find reference to the daemon that runs NFS client But the RedHat Documentation does not explain the NFS client daemon. Is this a service or something else. on centos6.5 I previously posted about a really weird root filesystem. It started on another non critical server. so I found out when I unmounted the NFS filesystem the problem went away. BUT the NFS filesystem will not remount. On the non critical server, an old windows trick "reboot fixes everything" brought NFS and the mount up clean no problems But I want to try and fix this on the critical server without a reboot. Is there a way to stop and start the NFS client like I can restart the NFS server? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. I have recently found that with XFS and inode64, certain applications won't work properly when the file system is exported w/NFS4 to a 32-bit system, such as firefox and gnome. Steve ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
On 09/24/2014 12:11 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 09/24/2014 10:26 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. Here's why you should care: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/ Links to the centos updates: CentOS-5: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020582.html CentOS-6: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020585.html CentOS-7: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020583.html For informational purposes: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 FYI: Update: 2014-09-25 03:10 UTC This article has been updated today 9/25/14 - saying the original patch is not complete. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
On 09/24/2014 12:11 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 09/24/2014 10:26 AM, Jim Perrin wrote: You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. Here's why you should care: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/ Links to the centos updates: CentOS-5: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020582.html CentOS-6: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020585.html CentOS-7: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-September/020583.html For informational purposes: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 FYI: Update: 2014-09-25 03:10 UTC This article has been updated today 9/25/14 - saying the original patch is not complete. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.cl...@netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
Jerry Geis wrote: >>is your init.d script chmod +x ? > >>just putting something in init.d isn't sufficient, it has to be linked >>in rc?.d as a S##name ... which chkconfig on (or systemctl) are >>supposed to do > > Yes the script is executable... forgot to mention that. > > From the comment in the README file, I thought that was all I needed to > do. > > I have not run any chkconfig or systemctl. That's the problem, then. It should have comments, near the top, as to what what runlevel it should be started at, and *when* (i.e., after the network is up for apache...). Then running chkconfig on will make it happen. >From a 6.5 server, from /etc/init.d/sshd: # chkconfig: 2345 55 25 This will start and make sure sshd is running in runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5, and it will start it as S55sshd on the way up, and shut id down with K25 on the reboot. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
On 9/25/2014 12:41 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I do have a question for the group mind, though: mounting these monstrous partitions... should I, or, in fact, do I*need* to give, as a mount option inode64? There will be a*lot* of files on this sucker What are the pros and cons of that? yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. the only negative impact I've found for inode64 is, if this volume is used as an NFS server, and you share directories deeper than the root of the file system, NFS can't handle 64 bit id numbers, and defaults to using the inode # of the directory as the filesystem ID. solution 1) only share the file system base solution 2) create ALL the directories that will be NFS shared BEFORE you fill up the volume, then the exported inode numbers will be quite low. solution 3) specify a fsid with a unique integer for each export. these integers only need to be unique within the volume, I just use 1, 2, 3... for the shares. example /etc/exports ... |/mnt/music 192.168.1.0/24(rw,...,fsid=1)| |/mnt/pictures 192.168.1.0/24(rw,...,fsid=2) | -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
>is your init.d script chmod +x ? >just putting something in init.d isn't sufficient, it has to be linked >in rc?.d as a S##name ... which chkconfig on (or systemctl) are >supposed to do Yes the script is executable... forgot to mention that. >From the comment in the README file, I thought that was all I needed to do. I have not run any chkconfig or systemctl. Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs
Well, I've set up one of our new JetStors. xfs took *seconds* to put a filesystem on it. We're talking what df -h shows as 66TB. (Pardon me, my mind just SEGV'd on that statement) Using bonnie++, I found that a) GPT and partitioning gave was insignificantly different than creating an xfs filesystem on a raw disk. I'm more comfortable with the partition, though. b) There was a small but significant difference if, when I created the filesystem, if I gave sw and su in the mkfs.xfs command. I do have a question for the group mind, though: mounting these monstrous partitions... should I, or, in fact, do I *need* to give, as a mount option inode64? There will be a *lot* of files on this sucker What are the pros and cons of that? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
On 9/25/2014 11:39 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: There is a README file on CentOS 7 in /etc/init.d that says Note that traditional init scripts continue to function on a systemd system. An init script /etc/rc.d/init.d/foobar is implicitly mapped into a service unit foobar.service during system initilization So I dropped my file in the above directory, rebooted and my item did not start. doing "systemctl list-unit-files | grep myservice" did now show anything. What piece did I miss? is your init.d script chmod +x ? just putting something in init.d isn't sufficient, it has to be linked in rc?.d as a S##name ... which chkconfig on (or systemctl) are supposed to do -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] /etc/init.d CentOS 7
There is a README file on CentOS 7 in /etc/init.d that says Note that traditional init scripts continue to function on a systemd system. An init script /etc/rc.d/init.d/foobar is implicitly mapped into a service unit foobar.service during system initilization So I dropped my file in the above directory, rebooted and my item did not start. doing "systemctl list-unit-files | grep myservice" did now show anything. What piece did I miss? I used to use rc.local and just need a script to run AFTER everything else has ran. no special start/stop/reload is needed... just a simple script. Thanks jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Sorry, missing footnotes to last email: 1] you'll notice I never mention the organization name - I really am not allowed to speak for my organization, or my company. 2] Partly because I work for a federal contractor mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM, wrote: >>> >> Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" attitude? :-). > > Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted nasties > into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and compared the code to > the project source?" That's ummm, funny, considering the stuff we've all been running. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Jake Shipton wrote: > On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >>> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: > I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to > Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at >>> >>> li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. >> >> Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at >> me, saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee >> aforesaid manager being happy with an eastern European individual's >> repo. >> >> *sigh* >> >> But - could someone correct me if I'm wrong - isn't "extras" for >> things like this? > > Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" attitude? :-). Don't be absurd. How 'bout "can we be sure that no one's inserted nasties into the code?" How 'bout "who else has looked at and compared the code to the project source?" *I* would trust Nux... but a) I can't speak or set policy for my organization[1][2], and b) I wouldn't feel comfortable committing my organization to use it, and urging it on my users of my division, and then someone hacks his repo. As an admin I used to work with liked to say, he was paid to be professionally paranoid. > > A suggestion for your picky boss: Custom repository. We have our own repo. However, there's *2.x* of us (my manager's working with another Institute too much of the time these days), and we do NOT want to have to maintain packages (don't even *ask* me about my packaging of BioPerl). We want to yum update from trusted repos > This way each machine has the repository, and can install the extra > packages. *snicker* Each machine. Right, I'm going to put a repo on ever single server and workstation... and then maintain it. When nobody actually works on their workstation, the work is supposed to be done on servers, with home directories NFS mounted You're joking, right? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 25/09/14 17:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: >> On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. >>> >>> Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his >>> repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian >>> server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work >>> at >> >> li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. > > Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at > me, saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee > aforesaid manager being happy with an eastern European individual's > repo. > > *sigh* > > But - could someone correct me if I'm wrong - isn't "extras" for > things like this? > > mark > > ___ CentOS mailing > list CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Guess it's the old "if it ain't American, it ain't right" attitude? :-). A suggestion for your picky boss: Custom repository. You could create a custom repository featuring these "off limits" products and simply create a repo-release package which gets installed with each machine. This way each machine has the repository, and can install the extra packages. I have done this before and works fine, I usually just create my own rpms or grab src rpms from fedora koji and put them in my own repo if I want something that is not available in any repositories. This should solve most of the problems with your boss :-). PS: Better not tell your boss Linux was created in Finland.. Kind Regards, Jake Shipton (JakeMS) GPG Key: 0xE3C31D8F GPG Fingerprint: 7515 CC63 19BD 06F9 400A DE8A 1D0B A5CF E3C3 1D8F ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid manager being happy with an eastern European individual's repo. Jesus! Couldn't you just shut up? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to >> my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US >> gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at > > li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. Thanks, I sit (and type) corrected. There was something nagging at me, saying Russia was wrong for Nux. However, I don't foresee aforesaid manager being happy with an eastern European individual's repo. *sigh* But - could someone correct me if I'm wrong - isn't "extras" for things like this? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 09/25/2014 04:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Yes, I still didn't find replacement for firefox... so, anyone who has a any suggestions of decent open source browser, please, let me know. maybe try seamonkey, I've been using it for ages (basically since firefox split from mozilla suite ;-) ) and I'm satisfied. It uses the same base code as firefox & thunderbird but it doesn't seem to change cosmetic things around all the time. No packages for EL6 AFAIK, for a long time I built my own but now I just grab the Linux/x86_64 build from their download page, tar xfvj, rename the subdir to have the date there, make my seamonkey-latest symlink point to that dir, make a symlink in that dir pointing to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ , and voila. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 11:16 am, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > > > On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Tom Bishop wrote: >>> I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and >>> see if we can get it added to his repo. >> >> Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to >> my >> manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US >> gov't >> agency (non-DoD) that we work at > > > li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. That is a relief. I recommend my users against several things, free Kasperski antivirus one of them (knowing that Kasperski is KGB guy, and in that sort of service you never retire, only feet first dead; true about that service in any country...) Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 9/25/2014 9:07 AM, Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till they fix this - I have stuff I need. Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one. I've been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv palemoon looks nice - *is* there a package for it somewhere, or do you have to d/l and install from their homepage? Find something else that works for you, there are other choices. It's gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie. A shame, it used to be such a good choice. I have to worry, here at work. I am *not* going to even think about trying to force my users to use another browser, one they've never heard of (I've never heard of either of these). This needs to be fixed yup, that would be the fly in the ointment. It's certainly not in the distro's I use (base,extras,updates,rpmforge,epel). I did find qupzilla in linux mint, but not palemoon and neither in the centos distro's that I use. Can't speak to other systems. For a mass install you pretty much have to roll your own. I've only used it on individual systems that I work with directly and downloaded from the website. I can only speak to my personal use. Hopefully it will start showing up in the distro's, we definitely need something other than firefox these days. -- Steve I meant repo's not distro's in the first paragraph ...DUH! //Steve ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 09/25/2014 05:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Tom Bishop wrote: I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at li.nux.ro, that's Romania not Russia. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
> > Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my > manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't > agency (non-DoD) that we work at > >mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Oops, yeah I can see why that might be an issue, Nux is pretty active and the source is available but yeah I get it. If I had more time I would like to try to help out at least with the builds, but we still need to get it in a repo somewhere. Something to work at, will add it to my to do list. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Tom Bishop wrote: >>> >> I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable >> browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great >> attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it >> simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser, which >> users can switch to firefox from if the want to, and will definitely mention >> why I suggest that browser. Some users will get alone with new browser, and >> after some critical mass of them, maybe a year down the road it will be >> done deal. The only shortcoming in my plan is an existence of damn >> google chrome. (Others already cursed at it, so I'll save my breath). >> > I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and > see if we can get it added to his repo. Maybe we can get it into extras? I mentioned something from his repo to my manager, who understandably balked at a Russian server (this is a US gov't agency (non-DoD) that we work at mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 10:10 am, Ron Yorston wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>palemoon looks nice > > My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended > support release, Sad. If there is no own developers team behind that, it hardly will survive "enterprise level" length of time... > which is no longer supported. Don't know how that'll > play out. > > In the meantime I've added exclude=firefox to my yum configuration and > am sticking with Firefox 24. On Fedora I've switched to Midori. I've tested and am using midori on my FreeBSD workstation (and some servers whenever I need to use browser on the server...). I can not push midori on my users though, as midori is a bit too rudimentary in my opinion compared to what my users usually need from web browser... Just my $0.02 Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
John Doe wrote: If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix is planned? Yes. More info here - https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/CVE-2014-7169 Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be rebooted... Really? No. From https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223 --- Do I need to reboot or restart services after installing this update? No, a reboot of your system or any of your services is not required. This vulnerability is in the initial import of the process environment from the kernel. This only happens when Bash is started. After the update that fixes this issue is installed, such new processes will use the new code, and will not be vulnerable. Conversely, old processes will not be started again, so the vulnerability does not materialize. --- -- Paul Norton ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >palemoon looks nice My concern with Pale Moon is that it's based on the Firefox 24 extended support release, which is no longer supported. Don't know how that'll play out. In the meantime I've added exclude=firefox to my yum configuration and am sticking with Firefox 24. On Fedora I've switched to Midori. I don't want 'tabs on top' and over the past several releases the Firefox developers have been making it more and more difficult to configure that. It used to be the default but now it requires a third-party extension and jumping through several hoops. Ron ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 9/25/2014 8:42 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Steve Lindemann wrote: On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till they fix this - I have stuff I need. Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one. I've been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv palemoon looks nice - *is* there a package for it somewhere, or do you have to d/l and install from their homepage? Find something else that works for you, there are other choices. It's gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie. A shame, it used to be such a good choice. I have to worry, here at work. I am *not* going to even think about trying to force my users to use another browser, one they've never heard of (I've never heard of either of these). This needs to be fixed yup, that would be the fly in the ointment. It's certainly not in the distro's I use (base,extras,updates,rpmforge,epel). I did find qupzilla in linux mint, but not palemoon and neither in the centos distro's that I use. Can't speak to other systems. For a mass install you pretty much have to roll your own. I've only used it on individual systems that I work with directly and downloaded from the website. I can only speak to my personal use. Hopefully it will start showing up in the distro's, we definitely need something other than firefox these days. -- Steve ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
>> > > I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable > browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great > attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it > simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser, which users > can switch to firefox from if the want to, and will definitely mention why > I suggest that browser. Some users will get alone with new browser, and > after some critical mass of them, maybe a year down the road it will be > done deal. The only shortcoming in my plan is an existence of damn google > chrome. (Others already cursed at it, so I'll save my breath). > > Valeri > > > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I like the look of palemoon, I am going to drop an email to Nux and see if we can get it added to his repo. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:42 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: >> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus > >>> It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to >>> ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which >>> would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". >>> >>> And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till >>> they fix this - I have stuff I need. >>> >> >> Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the >> point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one. I've >> been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv > > palemoon looks nice - *is* there a package for it somewhere, or do you > have to d/l and install from their homepage? >> >> Find something else that works for you, there are other choices. It's >> gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie. A shame, >> it used to be such a good choice. > > I have to worry, here at work. I am *not* going to even think about trying > to force my users to use another browser, one they've never heard of (I've > never heard of either of these). This needs to be fixed > I'm in the same fix... But. When I will find open source, acceptable browser which I can predict will last and will have the same great attitude late netscape or mozilla had, I will start installing it simultaneously with firefox, yet will make it default browser, which users can switch to firefox from if the want to, and will definitely mention why I suggest that browser. Some users will get alone with new browser, and after some critical mass of them, maybe a year down the road it will be done deal. The only shortcoming in my plan is an existence of damn google chrome. (Others already cursed at it, so I'll save my breath). Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
If I understood correctly, the current fix is incomplete and another fix is planned? Also, in the advisory, RH says that after the update, servers need to be rebooted... Really? Aside from cgi/php, just closing all shells isn't enough? Thx, JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Steve Lindemann wrote: > On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to >> ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which >> would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". >> >> And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till >> they fix this - I have stuff I need. >> > > Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the > point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one. I've > been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv palemoon looks nice - *is* there a package for it somewhere, or do you have to d/l and install from their homepage? > > Find something else that works for you, there are other choices. It's > gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie. A shame, > it used to be such a good choice. I have to worry, here at work. I am *not* going to even think about trying to force my users to use another browser, one they've never heard of (I've never heard of either of these). This needs to be fixed mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 9:13 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >>> From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: > Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus > Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. > > No. 99.44% of the time, I'm *NEVER* in fullscreen mode. All these damn > developers seem to be thinking of their idiot, er, smart phones, and *not* > about the majority of us using real computers with real monitors. >>> >>> You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. > > It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to > ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which > would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". > > And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till they > fix this - I have stuff I need. > I've started looking for firefox replacement some 4 if not 5 years ago. Since one of the students working here whom I knew after running his own company with a couple of his friends for about a year went to mozilla foundation as a ...(production manager if my memory doesn't fail me, my apologies if I'm wrong). Shortly after that the whole attitude there, at least as far as Firefox is concerned, changed. )Quite in line with what I know about the guy, hence my circumstantial conclusion. I'm not say he changed it, it may be true, but maybe his hiring was just a consequence of change that already happened.) Firefox releases started getting rushed out, like every 2 or 3 Months new release; they were awfully overburdened with new "fancy" (often not that necessary) stuff, changing dramatically how you interact with your browser. Worst of all, not to well debugged before releasing. Those who still remember netscape and mozilla browsers, try to remember how often you had to apply critical updates, or upgrade the browser to new version. I know, I know, still... Yes, I still didn't find replacement for firefox... so, anyone who has a any suggestions of decent open source browser, please, let me know. Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: From: Johan Vermeulen op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. No. 99.44% of the time, I'm *NEVER* in fullscreen mode. All these damn developers seem to be thinking of their idiot, er, smart phones, and *not* about the majority of us using real computers with real monitors. You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till they fix this - I have stuff I need. Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one. I've been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv Find something else that works for you, there are other choices. It's gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie. A shame, it used to be such a good choice. -- Steve ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:09:15AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > developers to follow this: > > Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. > > (it was excellent attitude to programming I was doing once: this way you > diminish the chance to break something that works...) Probably POLA, Principle Of Least Astonishment. FreeBSD mentions it from time to time. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: >> From: Johan Vermeulen >>> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. No. 99.44% of the time, I'm *NEVER* in fullscreen mode. All these damn developers seem to be thinking of their idiot, er, smart phones, and *not* about the majority of us using real computers with real monitors. >> >> You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu, which would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user". And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till they fix this - I have stuff I need. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote: > From: Johan Vermeulen > >> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >>> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >>> >>> mark >> >> Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. >> >> grts, Johan > > You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. > Indeed, with some new releases of some software we use you just have to learn everything from scratch. I understand the frustration of people who got used to least time consuming way to use it, then all of a sudden, it's all different. I don't remember where I heard this, yet I would prefer the developers to follow this: Don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary. (it was excellent attitude to programming I was doing once: this way you diminish the chance to break something that works...) Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
From: Johan Vermeulen > op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: >> Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus >> >> mark > > Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. > > grts, Johan You can press the "Alt" key to show the menu. JD ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.
On 09/25/2014 01:07 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: > good morning, > You should 'yum update' as soon as possible to resolve this issue. > > I installed the update on C5 and C6 machines, but I do not see any > difference in the output of "bash --version". Is that the expected > behaviour? > > C5 returns > ---8<--- > GNU bash, version 3.2.25(1)-release (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) > Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > ---<8--- > > and C6 returns > > ---8<--- > GNU bash, version 4.1.2(1)-release (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) > Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > ---8<--- > > before and after the update! > > best regards > --- > Michael Schumacher > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > That is not the way to check if you have the update installed. That is the major upstream bash version on which the Red Hat version is based ... this will likely never change throughout the lifetime of each individual man branch of CentOS .. that is, CentOS-5 will likely always say 3.2.25(1)-release, CentOS-6 will likely always say 4.1.2(1)-release, etc. What you need to do to check the version is this: rpm -q bash the result should be (if you have the update): for c5: bash-3.2-33.el5.1 for c6: bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1 for c7: bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2 Note: Some people may have ARCH enabled in their RPM commands, so a .i386, .i686, .x86_64 might be on the end of the above output, so for c7, it might say: bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.x86_64 Thanks, Johnny Hughes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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4. CESA-2014:1293 Critical CentOS 6 bash SecurityUpdate
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:07:20 +
From: Johnny Hughes
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1293 Critical CentOS 5 bash
SecurityUpdate
Message-ID: <20140924150720.ga1...@chakra.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1293 Critical
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1293.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
39f53e854969bb0bcbb280bf6581ec5857c086cdd727adc5eec9b7a9b7dcd0a6
bash-3.2-33.el5.1.i386.rpm
x86_64:
336202c14095622471275b4c4d55d49f16ee065d4f77dcef4ae5479cc67e11ad
bash-3.2-33.el5.1.x86_64.rpm
Source:
c8ccac8652d7b44531ab0a76c6eb9b0209dcd1dddf149fb182d0471206704217
bash-3.2-33.el5.1.src.rpm
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:09:24 +
From: Johnny Hughes
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1293 Critical CentOS 7 bash
SecurityUpdate
Message-ID: <20140924150924.ga24...@n04.lon1.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1293 Critical
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1293.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
x86_64:
4274e74893b2e3f31704befbd4c0968c68f153bfcd869c286d6df0a269280e87
bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.x86_64.rpm
e1bddc9814dd79c97b6c7f04a94178cfae8fb4ece1fbdab8e36172db16e527b9
bash-doc-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.x86_64.rpm
Source:
06e77611ff4bb3014a34300277d94f43ad2f281e42eb86ee609a71d4e2c06174
bash-4.2.45-5.el7_0.2.src.rpm
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:09:39 +
From: Johnny Hughes
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1292 Moderate CentOS 7 haproxy
SecurityUpdate
Message-ID: <20140924150939.ga24...@n04.lon1.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1292 Moderate
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1292.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
x86_64:
b5a830332d0a677758c3c1e8fef496c3aa9383dbe01ac9674ea58b0499fd3035
haproxy-1.5.2-3.el7_0.x86_64.rpm
Source:
9dfeabe07b065faf98255272c072d884bffcf27a59732c78314e9f73339287d7
haproxy-1.5.2-3.el7_0.src.rpm
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:10:11 +
From: Johnny Hughes
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1293 Critical CentOS 6 bash
SecurityUpdate
Message-ID: <20140924151011.ga24...@n04.lon1.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1293 Critical
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1293.html
The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )
i386:
f17f9e203cc55846a050ce57efd67159e208ef8bd469633a471233e8b9c54a74
bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1.i686.rpm
11628832fb279e1bdca2cb8f403f7080fbab9fde554ed6ce3081344f92a93d7a
bash-doc-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1.i686.rpm
x86_64:
eb8e41a4752e64c5c64371e5ae2ddbd5857b1e879832557a89fad195f4ab8f5b
bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1.x86_64.rpm
16312fa5b190cd20b8ce2374e8ea2404aa17c849003dd080105e6225fc379df1
bash-doc-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1.x86_64.rpm
Source:
063b6c42042d97a7aa32f8d058947275085a95a1545d1fe018bdc888e4dc093f
bash-4.1.2-15.el6_5.1.src.rpm
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Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef: On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) when I launched Firefox31 at one site yesterday, I got a dialog saying: " It's been a long time since you used Firefox, would you like to clean it up? After the "clean up", I automaticaly got a directory " Old Firefox Data " on the desktop. In there my old Firefox profile is stored. and I had a lot of users who had the title bar disappear. When you right-click in the white space near the top, you can check/uncheck. Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus mark Then maybe you are stuck in full-screen mode? Press f11 to exit that. grts, Johan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
On 09/25/14 03:09, Johan Vermeulen wrote: op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) when I launched Firefox31 at one site yesterday, I got a dialog saying: " It's been a long time since you used Firefox, would you like to clean it up? After the "clean up", I automaticaly got a directory " Old Firefox Data " on the desktop. In there my old Firefox profile is stored. and I had a lot of users who had the title bar disappear. When you right-click in the white space near the top, you can check/uncheck. Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
op 25-09-14 09:01, Johan Vermeulen schreef: op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Me too and I had lots of tabs :( ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hello, when I launched Firefox31 at one site yesterday, I got a dialog saying: " It's been a long time since you used Firefox, would you like to clean it up? After the "clean up", I automaticaly got a directory " Old Firefox Data " on the desktop. In there my old Firefox profile is stored. Greetings, J. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos and I had a lot of users who had the title bar disappear. When you right-click in the white space near the top, you can check/uncheck. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance
op 25-09-14 02:46, Tom Bishop schreef: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM, mark wrote: I just updated firefox, here at home... and when I fired it back up, *all* of my tabs were gone. Every one (all couple dozen...) mark, CentOS 6.5 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Me too and I had lots of tabs :( ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hello, when I launched Firefox31 at one site yesterday, I got a dialog saying: " It's been a long time since you used Firefox, would you like to clean it up? After the "clean up", I automaticaly got a directory " Old Firefox Data " on the desktop. In there my old Firefox profile is stored. Greetings, J. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
