Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-10 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
> On 01/10/15 20:39, Robert Nichols wrote:
>> Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install
>> of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than
>> installing Thunderbird. Thunderbird will occasionally (10 to 20% of the
>> time) fail to
>> start, and the abrt report indicates a signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I don't see
>> any other reports of this. Is no one using Thunderbird these days?

> I have the same problem with Thunderbird and Firefox after the update
> from C6.5 to C6.6.  I've wined and complained about it on this list in
> the past but have not seen any useful response.
> Mark LaPierre

Are you referring to this thread by any chance?

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html

The upstream bugzilla referenced in there is now private but I
provided the known workaround. Have you tried it? It worked for me and
others.

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Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-10 Thread Jason S. Evans
 I haven't seen this, but I'm curious if it has something to do with 
your configuration.  What I would suggest trying is working from a clean 
config.


  mv ~/.thunderbird ~/.thunderbird.backup

Try it like that.  If it starts correctly, then it is your config and 
you'll probably have to recreate your config to make it work.  If it 
doesn't, then rename .thunderbird.config back to .thunderbird.  No harm 
done.


You can also install the latest version of thunderbird from Mozilla.org 
and install it in /opt or /usr/local or where ever you are comfortable.


- Jason

On 2015-01-10 23:31, Robert Nichols wrote:

On 01/10/2015 07:39 PM, Robert Nichols wrote:
Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" 
install
of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than 
installing
Thunderbird. Thunderbird will occasionally (10 to 20% of the time) 
fail to
start, and the abrt report indicates a signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I don't 
see

any other reports of this. Is no one using Thunderbird these days?

Do abrt reports submitted from CentOS go anywhere useful these days?  
I

saw some discussion a while back, but don't recall the results. Should
I submit one?


Another data point: If I install CentOS 6.6 from the distribution ISO 
and
do _not_ do an update, Thunderbird seems to start reliably -- 100 
starts
and no failures. As soon as I install the current set of updates, it 
starts

failing.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 1/10/2015 9:19 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
Yup. It is actually just a way to figure out how to handle this with 
easy. But this will be use for a wide spread implementation. 



how to handle what?  you've never explained what you're trying to do, 
except in the most vague terms.




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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread F. Mendez

El 10/01/2015 a las 11:41 p.m., John R Pierce escribió:

On 1/10/2015 8:10 PM, F. Mendez wrote:

El 10/01/2015 a las 04:03 p.m., John R Pierce escribió:

On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have 
all IPv6s available for usage. 


Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses? thats 
1,208,925,819,614,629,200,000,000 individual IPs ?


Or, its 65536 /64 subnets of  18,446,744,073,709,552,000 hosts each.



Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my 
work...). 


so what is it you want to do with these 1.2 septillion IP addresses?   
you certainly can't assign them all to one system, there's not that 
many file handles, nor can one system have anywheres remotely close to 
that many vhosts.




Yup. It is actually just a way to figure out how to handle this with 
easy. But this will be use for a wide spread implementation.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread F. Mendez

El 11/01/2015 a las 12:10 a.m., John R Pierce escribió:

On 1/10/2015 8:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 01/10/2015 08:10 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my 
work...).


It's not crazy, that's the standard deployment for a building. It's 
almost certainly not possible to use all of the addresses in such a 
space, but that's the point.  IPv6 is intended to eliminate address 
scarcity. 


yes, but whats crazy is the OP's original request, he apparently 
thinks he wants a lan alias on every single IP


It happens that at the company I'm working decided to start migration 
of IPs tech.


So they got a /48 block. I were trying to add it with:

ifcfg-eth0-range1 (0 is already in use with IPv4 range):

IPV6ADDR_START=
IPV6ADDR_END=
CLONENUM_START=0

But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is 
implemented.


Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole 
/48 must be available and virtualized. 





Well I was trying to figure out a simple way to have it done. As it 
works on IPv4 I thought to give it a try :)


Hopefully you guys that have more expertice on this may share a better 
solution.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 1/10/2015 8:38 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 01/10/2015 08:10 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my 
work...).


It's not crazy, that's the standard deployment for a building. It's 
almost certainly not possible to use all of the addresses in such a 
space, but that's the point.  IPv6 is intended to eliminate address 
scarcity. 


yes, but whats crazy is the OP's original request, he apparently thinks 
he wants a lan alias on every single IP


It happens that at the company I'm working decided to start migration 
of IPs tech.


So they got a /48 block. I were trying to add it with:

ifcfg-eth0-range1 (0 is already in use with IPv4 range):

IPV6ADDR_START=
IPV6ADDR_END=
CLONENUM_START=0

But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is 
implemented.


Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole 
/48 must be available and virtualized. 





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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 1/10/2015 8:10 PM, F. Mendez wrote:

El 10/01/2015 a las 04:03 p.m., John R Pierce escribió:

On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have 
all IPv6s available for usage. 


Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses? thats 
1,208,925,819,614,629,200,000,000 individual IPs ?


Or, its 65536 /64 subnets of  18,446,744,073,709,552,000 hosts each.



Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my 
work...). 


so what is it you want to do with these 1.2 septillion IP addresses?   
you certainly can't assign them all to one system, there's not that many 
file handles, nor can one system have anywheres remotely close to that 
many vhosts.




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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 01/10/2015 08:10 PM, F. Mendez wrote:

Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my work...).


It's not crazy, that's the standard deployment for a building.  It's 
almost certainly not possible to use all of the addresses in such a 
space, but that's the point.  IPv6 is intended to eliminate address 
scarcity.

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Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-10 Thread Robert Nichols

On 01/10/2015 07:39 PM, Robert Nichols wrote:

Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install
of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than installing
Thunderbird. Thunderbird will occasionally (10 to 20% of the time) fail to
start, and the abrt report indicates a signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I don't see
any other reports of this. Is no one using Thunderbird these days?

Do abrt reports submitted from CentOS go anywhere useful these days?  I
saw some discussion a while back, but don't recall the results. Should
I submit one?


Another data point: If I install CentOS 6.6 from the distribution ISO and
do _not_ do an update, Thunderbird seems to start reliably -- 100 starts
and no failures. As soon as I install the current set of updates, it starts
failing.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread F. Mendez

El 10/01/2015 a las 04:03 p.m., John R Pierce escribió:

On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have 
all IPv6s available for usage. 


Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses? thats 
1,208,925,819,614,629,200,000,000 individual IPs ?


Or, its 65536 /64 subnets of  18,446,744,073,709,552,000 hosts each.




Hello. Yes I confirm...its a /48 (this guys are crazy here at my work...).
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Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-10 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
For those who don't know, as of version 21, Fedora has split into 3
streams: workstation, server, and cloud. This addresses many of the
concerns raised in this thread. See https://getfedora.org/ for details.  I
gather we'll see the impact of this change with CentOS-8.

Kal
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Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-10 Thread H
I am a newcomer to CentOS and I appreciate the discussion. It would seem to me 
- and I am sure I am not the first one to state the obvious - Fedora is 
primarily a desktop OS while CentOS is primarily a server OS.

The user needs are very different, the features needed are very, very 
different, hence many of the current features, or future features, should 
remain in one or the other and not cross over. It seems CentOS is at risk of 
losing features highly appreciated by its core group of users, obviously a very 
different type of user that depends on and appreciates Fedora.

Yes, I know CentOS is derived from RedHat and simply follows upstream 
development.

On January 10, 2015 9:42:49 PM EST, "James B. Byrne"  
wrote:
>
>On Fri, January 9, 2015 17:36, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 1/9/2015 2:32 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>>> Enterprise, in the RHEL context, suggests stability or have I
>>> misunderstood the USA definition of "Enterprise" ?
>>
>>
>> Enterprise to me implies large business
>
>Enterprise literally means 'undertaking'. It has been used
>euphemistically since the later 1980s as a code word for associations
>having a legally recognised form that operate for some sensibly
>describable outcome.  So one has large, medium and small enterprises,
>not-for-profit enterprises, commercial enterprises, social enterprises
>and so forth.
>
>> Businesses that don't adapt to external changes become fossils
>> and die off.
>
>The greatest threat to the survival of any organism or organisation is
>a change to its environment.  It is because of this that widespread
>adoption of so much innovation is delayed using societal pressure.  
>This is not done entirely out of narrow self-interest but from a
>sensible appreciation of the limits to the speed at which people can
>adapt to change.
>
>As is noted elsewhere, change is inevitable.  But there are many kinds
>of change.  For instance, there is the change wrought by sudden and
>dramatic increases in productivity.  How many here are cognisant of
>the fact that the O2 steel making process introduced in the 1950s
>lowered the labour content of a Tonne of steel by three orders of
>magnitude?  Without that single change much of what we invisibly
>accept as part of the urban landscape today would not exist.  Without
>that change it is likely that Bethlehem and Republic would still be in
>business.  Without that change hundreds of thousands would still be
>employed in the steel mills of North America.
>
>Then there is fashion.
>
>An enterprise has its hands full with just dealing with the former
>type of change.  It can ill afford to waste resources on the later.
>
>With respect to RHEL7 the question is: Which are we dealing with,
>substance or fashion?  Or rather, which type predominates?
>
>I have no argument against claiming the switch to xfs is substance,
>not fashion.  But then again that change over, however beneficial, is
>nearly invisible to most of us; subsumed as it is in the overarching
>effort of setting up a new system from scratch.  Once a host is set up
>its file-system certainly has little further discernible day-to-impact
>upon anyone, much less end-users.
>
>But Gnome3?  Systemd?  These seem highly intrusive changes that
>directly affect, often negatively, the daily tasks of many people. 
>Are these substance or fashion?  Do the changes they make
>fundamentally improve RHEL or just do the same things a little
>differently?  How much is it worth to an Enterprise to have a similar
>desktop metaphor on the workstation as on a tablet?  How many desktop
>workstations will be replaced by the smart-phone, the tablet? I do not
>have an answer but I suspect, not much and not many.
>
>What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? 
>Leaving aside upstart as a sterile diversion.
>
>I am not certain of anything here either.  I have learned that my
>initial resistance to change, any change, is just as emotionally
>charged as that of the next person.  So, I tend to wait and see.  But,
>I do ask questions.  If only to discover if I am alone in my concerns.
> I am but one person and I need the views of others, agreeable or
>disagreeable to my prejudices as the case may be, so as to form an
>informed opinion.
>
>I am admittedly somewhat concerned about the overall direction of the
>RHEL product.  I fundamentally disagree with their Frozen Chosen
>approach to key software components.  And with the lock-step forced
>upgrades that are the result.  I am not at all certain that
>back-porting security fixes to obsolescent software is a profitable
>activity when often for much the same effort, if not less, the most
>recent software could be made to run on the older release without
>adverse effects elsewhere.
>
>However, I offer no answers and promote no particular course of
>action, saving only reflection of what is happening now and the price
>that is paid for it. I am simply seeking the alternative views of
>others on these issues.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-10 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 01/10/15 20:39, Robert Nichols wrote:
> Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install
> of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than
> installing Thunderbird. Thunderbird will occasionally (10 to 20% of the
> time) fail to
> start, and the abrt report indicates a signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I don't see
> any other reports of this. Is no one using Thunderbird these days?
> 
> Do abrt reports submitted from CentOS go anywhere useful these days?  I
> saw some discussion a while back, but don't recall the results. Should
> I submit one?
> 

I have the same problem with Thunderbird and Firefox after the update
from C6.5 to C6.6.  I've wined and complained about it on this list in
the past but have not seen any useful response.  Other users on this
same system have the same issue so it's not my personal profile that's
causing the issue.

The C6.6 update also broke web camera functionality.  I understand
there's a kernel patch that fixed the web camera issue but it has yet to
ship in any production C6 32 bit or 64 bit kernels.

To work around the Thunderbird/Firefox issue I start them in a terminal:

[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ thunderbird &
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &

If they fail to start after a reasonable time I use the up cursor key
and replay the command until it does work.

[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ thunderbird &
[1] 22072
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ [calBackendLoader] Using libical backend at
/home/mlapier/.thunderbird/1qzdaguv.default/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/libical.manifest
enigmail.js: Registered components
mimeVerify.jsm: module initialized

[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &
[2] 22125
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &
[3] 22158
[2]   Segmentation fault  (core dumped) firefox
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &
[4] 22244
[3]   Segmentation fault  (core dumped) firefox
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &
[5] 22340
[4]   Segmentation fault  (core dumped) firefox
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ firefox &
[6] 22426
[5]   Segmentation fault  (core dumped) firefox
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$


CentOS release 6.6 (Final)

Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-504.3.3.el6.i686 #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 22:55:44
UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 21:54:52 up 1 day, 13:27,  3 users,  load average: 2.02, 2.07, 2.14

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 01/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote:

Currently we have a /26 range of IPv4. So we have eth0:1...eth0:59


Interface aliases are deprecated, IIRC.  An interface can have multiple 
addresses in V4 or V6 managed with the "ip" tool rather than "ifconfig."



We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have all
IPv6s available for usage.


If you need additional IPs for HTTPS virtual hosts or something like 
that, it looks like you can use IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES in the ifcfg file.


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Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-10 Thread James B. Byrne

On Fri, January 9, 2015 17:36, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 1/9/2015 2:32 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>> Enterprise, in the RHEL context, suggests stability or have I
>> misunderstood the USA definition of "Enterprise" ?
>
>
> Enterprise to me implies large business

Enterprise literally means 'undertaking'. It has been used
euphemistically since the later 1980s as a code word for associations
having a legally recognised form that operate for some sensibly
describable outcome.  So one has large, medium and small enterprises,
not-for-profit enterprises, commercial enterprises, social enterprises
and so forth.

> Businesses that don't adapt to external changes become fossils
> and die off.

The greatest threat to the survival of any organism or organisation is
a change to its environment.  It is because of this that widespread
adoption of so much innovation is delayed using societal pressure.  
This is not done entirely out of narrow self-interest but from a
sensible appreciation of the limits to the speed at which people can
adapt to change.

As is noted elsewhere, change is inevitable.  But there are many kinds
of change.  For instance, there is the change wrought by sudden and
dramatic increases in productivity.  How many here are cognisant of
the fact that the O2 steel making process introduced in the 1950s
lowered the labour content of a Tonne of steel by three orders of
magnitude?  Without that single change much of what we invisibly
accept as part of the urban landscape today would not exist.  Without
that change it is likely that Bethlehem and Republic would still be in
business.  Without that change hundreds of thousands would still be
employed in the steel mills of North America.

Then there is fashion.

An enterprise has its hands full with just dealing with the former
type of change.  It can ill afford to waste resources on the later.

With respect to RHEL7 the question is: Which are we dealing with,
substance or fashion?  Or rather, which type predominates?

I have no argument against claiming the switch to xfs is substance,
not fashion.  But then again that change over, however beneficial, is
nearly invisible to most of us; subsumed as it is in the overarching
effort of setting up a new system from scratch.  Once a host is set up
its file-system certainly has little further discernible day-to-impact
upon anyone, much less end-users.

But Gnome3?  Systemd?  These seem highly intrusive changes that
directly affect, often negatively, the daily tasks of many people. 
Are these substance or fashion?  Do the changes they make
fundamentally improve RHEL or just do the same things a little
differently?  How much is it worth to an Enterprise to have a similar
desktop metaphor on the workstation as on a tablet?  How many desktop
workstations will be replaced by the smart-phone, the tablet? I do not
have an answer but I suspect, not much and not many.

What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? 
Leaving aside upstart as a sterile diversion.

I am not certain of anything here either.  I have learned that my
initial resistance to change, any change, is just as emotionally
charged as that of the next person.  So, I tend to wait and see.  But,
I do ask questions.  If only to discover if I am alone in my concerns.
 I am but one person and I need the views of others, agreeable or
disagreeable to my prejudices as the case may be, so as to form an
informed opinion.

I am admittedly somewhat concerned about the overall direction of the
RHEL product.  I fundamentally disagree with their Frozen Chosen
approach to key software components.  And with the lock-step forced
upgrades that are the result.  I am not at all certain that
back-porting security fixes to obsolescent software is a profitable
activity when often for much the same effort, if not less, the most
recent software could be made to run on the older release without
adverse effects elsewhere.

However, I offer no answers and promote no particular course of
action, saving only reflection of what is happening now and the price
that is paid for it. I am simply seeking the alternative views of
others on these issues.

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[CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-10 Thread Robert Nichols

Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight "Desktop" install
of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than installing 
Thunderbird. Thunderbird will occasionally (10 to 20% of the time) fail to

start, and the abrt report indicates a signal 11 (SIGSEGV). I don't see
any other reports of this. Is no one using Thunderbird these days?

Do abrt reports submitted from CentOS go anywhere useful these days?  I
saw some discussion a while back, but don't recall the results. Should
I submit one?

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Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-01-10, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 01:12:27PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2015-01-10, Leon Fauster
>>  wrote:
>> > Am 10.01.2015 um 01:56 schrieb Fred Smith
>> > :
>> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:12:14AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Have you tried different window manager themes? Some of them have
>> >>> larger grab areas.
>> >> 
>> >> Which makes me wonder how one modifies a theme... there must be a
>> >> special toolkit for it somewhere... ??
>> >
>> >
>> >  System -> Preferences -> Appearance
>> >
>> 
>> I think Fred is talking about modifying a theme in the sense of
>> customising it.
>> 
>> To Fred: I'm not aware of a toolkit for the purpose. People just hack
>> the gtkrc or xml files which comprise a theme. There are lots of
>> examples under /usr/share/themes/.
>
> ah, thanks!
>
> I found the way, as described above, to choose a different border
> style, which solves my immediate problem, But I'll go take a look at
> your suggestion, too.
>
> thanks!
>
>

I forgot to mention the "begin resize" keyboard shortcut, which is
Alt-F8 by default. If you press that key combination, and then move the
mouse towards a window edge or corner, the window will be resized in the
corresponding direction. No need to find the narrow window border with
your mouse.

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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread Mike Mohr
I'm not sure how you plan to manage your /48, but this is how I've seen it
done in the past:

1) You are given a single IPv6 address (a /128) for your Internet-facing
router.  You are expected to add this address to your untrusted interface.
You are also given the address of a router at your ISP which is your IPv6
default route.

2) You are also given a block of addresses.  In my case this case a /64,
although it should work for any size prefix.  You are expected to hand
these addresses out on your trusted interface via either DHCPv6 or SLAAC
(depending on your preference).  Assign one of the addresses in the block
to your router's LAN interface and supply this as the default route for
your LAN hosts.

Good luck.
On Jan 10, 2015 10:10 AM, "F. Mendez"  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> It happens that at the company I'm working decided to start migration of
> IPs tech.
>
> So they got a /48 block. I were trying to add it with:
>
> ifcfg-eth0-range1 (0 is already in use with IPv4 range):
>
> IPV6ADDR_START=
> IPV6ADDR_END=
> CLONENUM_START=0
>
> But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is
> implemented.
>
> Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole /48
> must be available and virtualized.
>
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote:
We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have 
all IPv6s available for usage. 


Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses?   thats 
1,208,925,819,614,629,200,000,000 individual IPs ?


Or, its 65536 /64 subnets of  18,446,744,073,709,552,000 hosts each.



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Re: [CentOS] LVM - pvmove and multiple servers

2015-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 01/10/2015 05:13 AM, Daniel Hoffman wrote:

4. Use pvmove to move all the data from one PV to another.


http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/LVM-HOWTO/#sharinglvm1

"The key thing to remember when sharing volumes is that all the LVM 
administration must be done on one node only and that all other nodes 
must have LVM shut down before changing anything on the admin node."



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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread F. Mendez

El 10/01/2015 a las 03:40 p.m., Gordon Messmer escribió:

On 01/10/2015 10:10 AM, F. Mendez wrote:


But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is
implemented.


I don't think so.  The START and END bits of ifup-aliases appear to be 
v4 specific.



Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole
/48 must be available and virtualized.


Well, the whole network will be available as long as you have an 
active address on a node that's capable of acting as a router. I'm not 
sure what you mean by virtualized, though.


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Hello. Thanks for your reply.


Currently we have a /26 range of IPv4. So we have eth0:1...eth0:59

We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have all 
IPv6s available for usage.


I tried to use same ifcfg-eth0-range0 same config by adding: 
IPV6ADDR_START= which seems not to work for this. None IPADDR_START too.


We need a simple way to have our virtual eth's with IPv6 all the range 
available.



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Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 01/10/2015 10:10 AM, F. Mendez wrote:


But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is
implemented.


I don't think so.  The START and END bits of ifup-aliases appear to be 
v4 specific.



Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole
/48 must be available and virtualized.


Well, the whole network will be available as long as you have an active 
address on a node that's capable of acting as a router.  I'm not sure 
what you mean by virtualized, though.


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Re: [CentOS] LVM - pvmove and multiple servers

2015-01-10 Thread John R Pierce

On 1/10/2015 5:13 AM, Daniel Hoffman wrote:

Looking for some guidance/experience with LVM and pvmove.

I have a LUN/PV being presented from a iscsi SAN. The LUN/PV is presented
to 5 servers as a shared VG they all have LV's they use for data, they are
all connected via iSCSI.

As the SAN I am using is being replaced I need to move onto a new unit.

My migration strategy at this time is to

1. Present a new LUN from the new SAN to all machines.
2. Make a PV with the new LUN.
3. Add it to the existing VG.
4. Use pvmove to move all the data from one PV to another.
5. Once the old LUN is empty, complete a pvresize to remove the old LUN.

This all seems sound but looking for advice, specifically around the fact
that the VG/PV data is being used by a number of machines/servers and the
LV's are active on a number of different nodes.

All the documentation/examples I can find assume a disk in a server, not a
LUN on a SAN being shared by a number of servers.


only way I'd do that would be to shutdown the other 4 servers, redo the 
LVM, then bring the other 4 servers back up so they can discover the new 
LV/PV structures.




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Re: [CentOS] LVM - pvmove and multiple servers

2015-01-10 Thread S.Tindall
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 00:13 +1100, Daniel Hoffman wrote:
> Hi All.
> 
> Looking for some guidance/experience with LVM and pvmove.
> 
> I have a LUN/PV being presented from a iscsi SAN. The LUN/PV is presented
> to 5 servers as a shared VG they all have LV's they use for data, they are
> all connected via iSCSI.
> 
> As the SAN I am using is being replaced I need to move onto a new unit.
> 
> My migration strategy at this time is to
> 
> 1. Present a new LUN from the new SAN to all machines.
> 2. Make a PV with the new LUN.
> 3. Add it to the existing VG.
> 4. Use pvmove to move all the data from one PV to another.
> 5. Once the old LUN is empty, complete a pvresize to remove the old LUN.
> 
> This all seems sound but looking for advice, specifically around the fact
> that the VG/PV data is being used by a number of machines/servers and the
> LV's are active on a number of different nodes.
> 
> All the documentation/examples I can find assume a disk in a server, not a
> LUN on a SAN being shared by a number of servers.
> 
> Any advice is appreciated.

Cannot help with the SAN question other than to say that you are just
adding another PV block device to a VG and LVM shouldn't care.

My comment is on step 5. You want to "vgreduce -a " to remove empty
PVs (assuming only the old one is empty) followed by "pvremove " to
remove the old PV.

As always, be wary of any "Are you sure?" or "You need to --force" LVM
output.

Steve

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[CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-10 Thread F. Mendez

Hello.

It happens that at the company I'm working decided to start migration of 
IPs tech.


So they got a /48 block. I were trying to add it with:

ifcfg-eth0-range1 (0 is already in use with IPv4 range):

IPV6ADDR_START=
IPV6ADDR_END=
CLONENUM_START=0

But of course I am assuming that like in IPv4 IPADDR_START/END is 
implemented.


Please give some guidance as I need this to done already and the hole 
/48 must be available and virtualized.



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Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-10 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 01:12:27PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2015-01-10, Leon Fauster
>  wrote:
> > Am 10.01.2015 um 01:56 schrieb Fred Smith
> > :
> >> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:12:14AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Have you tried different window manager themes? Some of them have
> >>> larger grab areas.
> >> 
> >> Which makes me wonder how one modifies a theme... there must be a
> >> special toolkit for it somewhere... ??
> >
> >
> >  System -> Preferences -> Appearance
> >
> 
> I think Fred is talking about modifying a theme in the sense of
> customising it.
> 
> To Fred: I'm not aware of a toolkit for the purpose. People just hack
> the gtkrc or xml files which comprise a theme. There are lots of
> examples under /usr/share/themes/.

ah, thanks!

I found the way, as described above, to choose a different border style,
which solves my immediate problem, But I'll go take a look at your
suggestion, too.

thanks!


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[CentOS] LVM - pvmove and multiple servers

2015-01-10 Thread Daniel Hoffman
Hi All.

Looking for some guidance/experience with LVM and pvmove.

I have a LUN/PV being presented from a iscsi SAN. The LUN/PV is presented
to 5 servers as a shared VG they all have LV's they use for data, they are
all connected via iSCSI.

As the SAN I am using is being replaced I need to move onto a new unit.

My migration strategy at this time is to

1. Present a new LUN from the new SAN to all machines.
2. Make a PV with the new LUN.
3. Add it to the existing VG.
4. Use pvmove to move all the data from one PV to another.
5. Once the old LUN is empty, complete a pvresize to remove the old LUN.

This all seems sound but looking for advice, specifically around the fact
that the VG/PV data is being used by a number of machines/servers and the
LV's are active on a number of different nodes.

All the documentation/examples I can find assume a disk in a server, not a
LUN on a SAN being shared by a number of servers.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

Daniel
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Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-01-10, Leon Fauster
 wrote:
> Am 10.01.2015 um 01:56 schrieb Fred Smith
> :
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:12:14AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried different window manager themes? Some of them have
>>> larger grab areas.
>> 
>> Which makes me wonder how one modifies a theme... there must be a
>> special toolkit for it somewhere... ??
>
>
>  System -> Preferences -> Appearance
>

I think Fred is talking about modifying a theme in the sense of
customising it.

To Fred: I'm not aware of a toolkit for the purpose. People just hack
the gtkrc or xml files which comprise a theme. There are lots of
examples under /usr/share/themes/.

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Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-10 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 10.01.2015 um 01:56 schrieb Fred Smith :
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:12:14AM +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried different window manager themes? Some of them have larger
>> grab areas.
> 
> Which makes me wonder how one modifies a theme... there must be a
> special toolkit for it somewhere... ??


 System -> Preferences -> Appearance

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