Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of ken > Sent: den 20 augusti 2015 19:27 > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray > > I'm suprised no one yet has mentioned authoring movies. Maybe the > software to do this isn't available for Linux??? I use Openshot Video Editor on a weekly basis to cut and edit my m/c-instructoring clips and then post to Youtube. ;-) I've more or less abandoned Pinnacle since I discovered Openshot. The encoding stuff is so much faster on CentOS than Windows... -- //Sorin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 07:37 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 06:04:03AM -0500, Hal Wigoda wrote: > > I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray > > http://srobb.net/why.mp4 Well, why ? -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Aug 20, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: > > On 08/20/2015 10:27 AM, ken wrote: >> On 08/20/2015 10:27 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: >>> I bought a BluRay for my Thinkpad and my Desktop. >>> >>> Very rarely use them, but on occassion I do. >>> >>> When I use them, I use them to rip movies via MakeMKV but honestly that >>> is the only BluRay use they ever get. And mostly the desktop, the laptop >>> doesn't have the memory to encode hi def in reasonable amount of time. >> >> How much memory do you think would be needed to do that? > > I don't know, but my desktop has 16 GB and the laptop only has 4 GB (and a > slower CPU) An uncompressed 4:2:0 frame of 2K video takes about 2.5 MiB of RAM. If you represent it as 4:4:4 during recompression instead, it’s 6 MiB. An H.264 encoder might need a dozen or so frames in RAM at a time to do the inter-frame compression, so you’re talking about something like 30-100 MiB of RAM. Some encoders are inefficient, and grab a gig or so of RAM, but I expect that’s only because they can get away with it these days. It’s possible to be much more efficient, evidenced by the fact that so many smartphones and digital cameras have H.264 encoders in them. You don’t imagine they have a gig of RAM sitting around just for the H.264 encoder, do you? The main thing you need for fast video encoding is one of: a) multiple fast general-purpose CPU cores b) lots of GPU pipelines, or c) a dedicated hardware ASIC (or equivalent in die space on a SoC) It’s all down to processing power, not RAM. Video encoding is a big reason that the Intel Core i7 made such a big splash about 5 years ago. It’s one of the few desktop applications that can make effective use all those fast cores. GPU encoding has also made great strides recently. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] fsck mdraid root partition
Apologies for the late reply; I only just saw this message today. On 2015-08-17, Bowie Bailey wrote: > It shows as /dev/md/2, while it is called /dev/md2 if I boot into the OS. It's possible that one is a symlink to the other. IIRC the /dev/md2 naming style is somewhat deprecated. If you can boot off of the current /, you can check for sure. > mdadm --assemble --scan /dev/md/2 > > I assume it will assemble it. Is it going to cause and problems > assembling it under a different name in order to run the fsck? If it assembles, then it shouldn't cause any problems once you reboot. Running fsck against the /dev/md/2 device should be fine. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] TLS for all CentOS websites but not for smtp?
On 20-08-15 14:55:44, James B. Byrne wrote: > However, this is a mailing list. And mail.centos.org just handles mailing lists and nothing else? I don't think so. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] TLS for all CentOS websites but not for smtp?
On 08/20/2015 11:55 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: On Wed, August 19, 2015 12:24, Kai Bojens wrote: On 19-08-15 08:30:27, Alice Wonder wrote: e-mail by its very design is not secure, SMTP creates "Man In The Middle" at every server along the way. DANE exists and mail servers like postfix support this. My logfiles show me that mail.centos.org delivers straight to me without any servers along the way. I'm not saying they shouldn't implement TLS on the list server, just not sure what the privacy or security benefit really would be. Encryption ensures that third parties simply cannot follow their "collect all" strategy. However, this is a mailing list. And all messages sent through this mailing list are archived and published as web documents. It seems to me that insofar as Centos ML comsec is concerned STARTTLS would not add any measurable degree of security or privacy. But there is a fair point that most archives of mailing lists on the web make some attempt to hide the e-mail addresses from spambots. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 10:27 AM, ken wrote: On 08/20/2015 10:27 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: I bought a BluRay for my Thinkpad and my Desktop. Very rarely use them, but on occassion I do. When I use them, I use them to rip movies via MakeMKV but honestly that is the only BluRay use they ever get. And mostly the desktop, the laptop doesn't have the memory to encode hi def in reasonable amount of time. How much memory do you think would be needed to do that? I don't know, but my desktop has 16 GB and the laptop only has 4 GB (and a slower CPU) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] TLS for all CentOS websites but not for smtp?
On Wed, August 19, 2015 12:24, Kai Bojens wrote: > On 19-08-15 08:30:27, Alice Wonder wrote: > >> e-mail by its very design is not secure, SMTP creates "Man In The >> Middle" at every server along the way. > > DANE exists and mail servers like postfix support this. My logfiles > show me that mail.centos.org delivers straight to me without any > servers along the way. > >> I'm not saying they shouldn't implement TLS on the list server, just >> not sure what the privacy or security benefit really would be. > > Encryption ensures that third parties simply cannot follow their > "collect all" strategy. However, this is a mailing list. And all messages sent through this mailing list are archived and published as web documents. It seems to me that insofar as Centos ML comsec is concerned STARTTLS would not add any measurable degree of security or privacy. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Dnia czwartek, 20 sierpnia 2015 9:50:48 AM Valeri Galtsev pisze: > > capacity became a problem. Recently we have switched to RDX. > Which RDX? This: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX > ? This one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX_Technology (:) -- Over And Out MoonWolf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 10:27 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: I bought a BluRay for my Thinkpad and my Desktop. Very rarely use them, but on occassion I do. When I use them, I use them to rip movies via MakeMKV but honestly that is the only BluRay use they ever get. And mostly the desktop, the laptop doesn't have the memory to encode hi def in reasonable amount of time. How much memory do you think would be needed to do that? Unless you want to rip movies, which may violate certain laws in certain geographical locations, there's not any point that I can see. On 08/20/2015 03:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Congratulations, Alice. You're the sole nerd here to mention that this was possible. I've never ripped a flick before, but I could imagine doing it, so it's good to know it can be done with Linux. I'm suprised no one yet has mentioned authoring movies. Maybe the software to do this isn't available for Linux??? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] "UMask=0002" ignored in httpd service file
On 08/20/2015 06:54 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to get Apache httpd to create new files with the group > writable bit set and thought adding the directive "UMask=0002" to the > service section of the service file would be enough (after copying it to > /etc/systemd/system). But after a systemctl daemon-reload followed by a > service restart files are still created as "-rw-r--r--" instead of the > expected "-rw-rw-r--". > Does anyone have an idea what is missing here or how I can debug why the > directive is apparently ignored? Never mind I was just being dumb. The directive belonged in the php-fpm service file of course and not the httpd one. Sorry for the noise. Regards, Dennis ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] "UMask=0002" ignored in httpd service file
Hi, I'm trying to get Apache httpd to create new files with the group writable bit set and thought adding the directive "UMask=0002" to the service section of the service file would be enough (after copying it to /etc/systemd/system). But after a systemctl daemon-reload followed by a service restart files are still created as "-rw-r--r--" instead of the expected "-rw-rw-r--". Does anyone have an idea what is missing here or how I can debug why the directive is apparently ignored? Regards, Dennis ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] TLS for all CentOS websites but not for smtp?
On Wed, August 19, 2015 2:33 pm, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 19/08/15 15:56, Kai Bojens wrote: >> Hello everybody, I just got the email about the enforcing of HTTPS >> for the CentOS Websites which I really appreciate: >> >> The CentOS Project infra team has decided to implement TLS >> wherever we can ( ) >> >> Does anybody know if and when mail.centos.org will be able to >> deliver its mails with STARTTLS? There seems to be no support for >> STARTTLS at all: >> >> $: openssl s_client -connect mail.centos.org:25 -starttls smtp ( ) >> didn't found starttls in server response, try anyway... > > Thanks for the comment. > > As said, we were targeting first the websites, but we can also > investigate what would be needed and the possible impacts of > implementing that for SMTP traffic. > But, as other people said it too, it depends on what you want to > secure/encrypt, and gnupg can also be used for that, despite the smtp > server[s] included in the chain. > > My (personal) opinion is "if you want to secure/encrypt", use gpg. > Adding TLS on top of smtp for the transport itself can be a good idea. > Let me just start a thread with the other guys and see what we can > come with. I 100% agree with gpg. TLS/SSL I would only consider necessary if you have to authenticate with your SMTP server for having it send your message for you. For everything else as far as SMTP is concerned TLS/SSL does not add anything thus is not necessary IMHO. Just my $0.02. Valeri > That will not be priority #1 though, as we're also working on other > things, like using FAS for central auth for resources like > cbs.centos.org and git.centos.org. > > Kind Regards, > > - -- > Fabian Arrotin > The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org > gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAlXU2icACgkQnVkHo1a+xU4jMwCfW2gfE8o6ALEqzcTXSBq5+jx0 > P4YAn2vl/qlxOieW6oYRO2kXZijrsZmL > =Tgek > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, August 20, 2015 6:52 am, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Marcin Trendota > wrote: >> W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:26, Mauricio Tavares pisze: >>> On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs >>> Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling >>> reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? >>>First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If >>> the >>> later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons >>> against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that >> >> I used to use Blu-Ray as backup device. >> > In that case, the concern about drm is null and void. That said, > how did that work out for you? I thought about doing that because of > the sheer capacity but my experience using DL DVDs for backup was not > as good as the original claims. Retention was not good after a year or > so, which led me to use hard drives instead with a slow rotation > policy and keeping hardware to read it (poor man's futureproofing). > I do have BD, external though (USB; Buffalo BRXL-PC6U2 which I would highly recommend). I use it whenever I need to read [often somebody's else BD] or write big chunk of data onto something [very convenient dimentions if you need to send it elsewhere]. I used it to make image of Windows system my laptop came with (after I added all I may need on Windows), so I can restore my laptop from that BD. I doubt I will ever need that, as I wiped the system in favor of FreeBSD (which is single system on my laptop). I do not use BDs for backups though, I backup everything, including laptops to bacula backup server. Just my $0.02. Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
> One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling > reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Get neither: nowadays an optical reader is just a relic of the past, making your laptop heavier and reducing (ever so slightly) your battery life. Stefan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, August 20, 2015 7:01 am, Marcin Trendota wrote: > W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:52, Mauricio Tavares pisze: >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Marcin Trendota >> wrote: >>> W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:26, Mauricio Tavares pisze: On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: > > One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that >>> I used to use Blu-Ray as backup device. >> In that case, the concern about drm is null and void. That said, >> how did that work out for you? I thought about doing that because of >> the sheer capacity but my experience using DL DVDs for backup was not >> as good as the original claims. Retention was not good after a year or >> so, which led me to use hard drives instead with a slow rotation >> policy and keeping hardware to read it (poor man's futureproofing). > > Well, retention was not an issue in my case (that were monthly backups, > we didn't need to keep old backups). But eventually capacity became a > problem. Recently we have switched to RDX. > Which RDX? This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX ? Valeri Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 PV kernel
Am 20.08.2015 um 06:50 schrieb Venkateswara Rao Dokku: > How to know that the CentOS 7 kerenel is whether PV or HVM? Try it yourself. Excecute grep XEN /boot/config-$(uname -r) you will see that CONFIG_XEN and CONFIG_XEN_PVHVM is enabled. regrads Ulf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
I bought a BluRay for my Thinkpad and my Desktop. Very rarely use them, but on occassion I do. When I use them, I use them to rip movies via MakeMKV but honestly that is the only BluRay use they ever get. And mostly the desktop, the laptop doesn't have the memory to encode hi def in reasonable amount of time. Unless you want to rip movies, which may violate certain laws in certain geographical locations, there's not any point that I can see. On 08/20/2015 03:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:52, Mauricio Tavares pisze: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Marcin Trendota > wrote: >> W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:26, Mauricio Tavares pisze: >>> On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs >>> Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling >>> reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? >>>First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the >>> later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons >>> against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that >> I used to use Blu-Ray as backup device. > In that case, the concern about drm is null and void. That said, > how did that work out for you? I thought about doing that because of > the sheer capacity but my experience using DL DVDs for backup was not > as good as the original claims. Retention was not good after a year or > so, which led me to use hard drives instead with a slow rotation > policy and keeping hardware to read it (poor man's futureproofing). Well, retention was not an issue in my case (that were monthly backups, we didn't need to keep old backups). But eventually capacity became a problem. Recently we have switched to RDX. -- Over And Out MoonWolf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Marcin Trendota wrote: > W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:26, Mauricio Tavares pisze: >> On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: >>> >>> One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs >> Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling >> reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? >>First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the >> later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons >> against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that > > I used to use Blu-Ray as backup device. > In that case, the concern about drm is null and void. That said, how did that work out for you? I thought about doing that because of the sheer capacity but my experience using DL DVDs for backup was not as good as the original claims. Retention was not good after a year or so, which led me to use hard drives instead with a slow rotation policy and keeping hardware to read it (poor man's futureproofing). > -- > Over And Out > MoonWolf > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:37:53AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 06:04:03AM -0500, Hal Wigoda wrote: > > I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray > > http://srobb.net/why.mp4 Despite my whimsical reply above, there are some good reasons I wouldn't do it. (And the person was posting from a phone, so if they dislike typing on them as much as I do, I can easily understand the brevity of the answer.) :) Anyway, I wouldn't use a blu-ray for storage because flash storage can give you as much space, more cheaply, and far faster. That is, it's going to be much faster writing to a flash drive or USB connected drive than to a blu-ray disk. As for using for multimeida, the media itself is still expensive, and I remember the last time I looked into this, it was still problematic to play it on many versions of Linux. The codecs used to play them probably aren't completely legal in the US (though that's just my guess, no research--I just assume that content producers continue to bribe our politicians here). The only reason I could see to do it would be to watch movies on blu-ray---see above, last time I checked (which was probably over a year ago) it was non-trivial whereas it is pretty trivial to watch DVDs on Linux now. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015, Hal Wigoda wrote: Personal preference. Who uses blu ray? Who uses DVDs? This really isn't a winning discussion. If you want to read/write blu-ray disks, then buy a blu-ray reader/writer. If you don't, don't. You can get a blu ray writer for ~£50, so it really shouldn't be a big decision. If you don't buy one and later find you want one, you buy an external one for basically the same money. Don't lose sleep over it. jh___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 07:35 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Second, it [Blu-ray] has dmr crap in it that >might require binary only spyware to work. DVD-Video has them too, the only difference is that the crypto in the DRM for DVD is terribly broken. "Broken" in the sense that data is corrupted or in the sense that the DMR is crackable? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Personal preference. Who uses blu ray? Who uses DVDs? Anyway. (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) > On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:21 AM, ken wrote: > >> On 08/20/2015 07:04 AM, Hal Wigoda wrote: >> I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray >> >> (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling >> or grammatical errors.) >> >>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken wrote: >>> >>> One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs >>> Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling >>> reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? > > Is that a personal preference, or are there reasons? > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 06:04:03AM -0500, Hal Wigoda wrote: > I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray http://srobb.net/why.mp4 -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
W dniu 20.08.2015 o 13:26, Mauricio Tavares pisze: > On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: >> >> One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling > reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? >First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the > later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons > against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that I used to use Blu-Ray as backup device. -- Over And Out MoonWolf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, "ken" wrote: > > One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? > First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that might require binary only spyware to work. Third, they behave like Android phones in that they keep pushing new releases but no firmware updates for older devices; you have to keep on buying new devices which only change from old one by having brand new spyware. If I were to read in my blueray movies - legal to do FYI - I would do so somewhere else or find external drive that can read it. On the positive side, blueray sounds cooler than DVD. ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 07:04 AM, Hal Wigoda wrote: I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Is that a personal preference, or are there reasons? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) > On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken wrote: > > One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling > reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
