Re: [CentOS] virt-manager

2015-10-23 Thread Ashish Yadav
Hi,


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:11 AM, John R Pierce  wrote:

> On 10/22/2015 4:15 PM, Nux! wrote:
>
>> Try giving the VM a Spice display, instead of VNC, see if that helps.
>>
>
> no idea how to do this, I'm a total newb with KVM.
>
>
Go to virtual hardware details of your VM ( by clicking on the open button
after selecting your VM), in that go to display sections and select spice
from vnc.

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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 128, Issue 7

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   1. RDO Liberty released in CentOS Cloud SIG (Alan Pevec)
   2. CEBA-2015:1922 CentOS 5 device-mapper-multipath   BugFix Update
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   3. CESA-2015:1924 Important CentOS 6 qemu-kvmSecurity Update
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:36:43 +0200
From: Alan Pevec 
To: centos-annou...@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] RDO Liberty released in CentOS Cloud SIG
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I am pleased to announce the general availability of the RDO build for
OpenStack Liberty for CentOS Linux 7 x86_64, suitable for building
private, public and hybrid clouds. OpenStack Liberty is the 12th release
of the open source software collaboratively built by a large number of
contributors around the OpenStack.org project space.

The RDO community project ( https://www.rdoproject.org/ ) curates,
packages, builds, tests and maintains a complete OpenStack component set
for RHEL and CentOS Linux and is a founding member of the CentOS Cloud
Infrastructure SIG ( https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Cloud
). The Cloud Infrastructure SIG focus on delivering a great user
experience for CentOS Linux users looking to build and maintain their
own onpremise, public or hybrid clouds.

In addition to the comprehensive OpenStack services, libraries and
clients, this release also provides Packstack, a simple installer for
proof-of-concept installations, as small as a single all-in-one box and
RDO Manager ( https://www.rdoproject.org/RDO-Manager ) , an OpenStack
deployment and management tool for production environments based on the
OpenStack TripleO project.

---
QuickStart:

Ensure you have a fully updated CentOS Linux 7/x86_64 machine, and run :
  sudo yum install centos-release-openstack-liberty
  sudo yum install openstack-packstack
  packstack --allinone

For a more detailed quickstart please refer to the RDO Project hosted
guide at https://www.rdoproject.org/QuickStart

For RDO Manger consult https://www.rdoproject.org/RDO-Manager page.

RDO project is closely tracking upstream OpenStack projects using the
Delorean tool[1] which is producing RPM packages from upstream development
branches.

Since the previous OpenStack Kilo release, RDO is participating
in the Cloud SIG and using CentOS provided infrastructure.
Towards the end of developement cycle packages are imported into CentOS
Cloud SIG buildsystem[2] and get eventually published in Cloud SIG
repositories[3].

[1] http://trunk.rdoproject.org/
[2] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem
[3] http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/


Getting Help:

The RDO Project provides a Q&A service at ask.openstack.org, for more
developer oriented content we recommend joining the mailing list at
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rdo-list. Remember to post
a brief introduction about yourself and your RDO story.
You can also find extensive documentation at
https://www.rdoproject.org/Docs.

We also welcome comments and requests on the CentOS Mailing lists (
https://lists.centos.org/ ) and the CentOS IRC Channels ( #centos on
irc.freenode.net ), however we have a more focused audience in the RDO
venues.

To get involved in the OpenStack RPM packaging effort, see
https://www.rdoproject.org/Get_involved and
https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Cloud  Join us in #rdo on the
Freenode IRC network, and follow us at @RDOCommunity on Twitter.
And, if you're going to be in Tokyo for the OpenStack Summit next week,
join us on Wednesday at lunch for the RDO community meetup
( http://sched.co/4MYy ).

I'd like to thank all RDO developers and CentOS Project for
their effort and support resulting in this release,
especially
dmsimard - for continuously improving RDO CI
jpena - for keeping Delorean service up and running
jruzicka - for the rdopkg auto-magic
number80 - for countless reviews and packaging wisdom
social - for puppet module mastery
trown - for leading RDO Manager side of the show!

Special thanks to all the folks who helped with last minute testing in
IRC #rdo channel !

Thanks,
Alan Pevec
Cloud SIG and RDO project member


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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:20:34 +
From: Johnny Hughes 
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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread James B. Byrne

On Thu, October 22, 2015 17:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> . . . Still, disregarding the part some of us dislike personally
> (plus often reboots necessary to install some vital updates
> - which all Linuxes are prone to beginning somewhere around
> 2.6 kernel) . . .

I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.

Apparently it is the later.

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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Thu, October 22, 2015 17:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> . . . Still, disregarding the part some of us dislike personally
>> (plus often reboots necessary to install some vital updates
>> - which all Linuxes are prone to beginning somewhere around
>> 2.6 kernel) . . .
>
> I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
> rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
> must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
> misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.
>
> Apparently it is the later.

So systemd moves Linux to more resemble Windows?

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Fri, October 23, 2015 8:46 am, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> James B. Byrne wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, October 22, 2015 17:25, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>> . . . Still, disregarding the part some of us dislike personally
>>> (plus often reboots necessary to install some vital updates
>>> - which all Linuxes are prone to beginning somewhere around
>>> 2.6 kernel) . . .
>>
>> I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
>> rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
>> must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
>> misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.
>>
>> Apparently it is the later.
>
> So systemd moves Linux to more resemble Windows?
>

I regret James cut out positive part I said - about great job both RH and
CentOS teams are doing!

But coming back to negative part (which is about almost any Linux
distribution). These often reboots started in my recollection around 2.6
kernel which is long ago. Already then one of my friends started calling
Linux "Lindoze" apparently stressing you need to reboot it often, like MS
Windows. I would suggest to take his label with a grain of salt, as he is
the one who also used funny name for another well known system, after
Oracle bough out Sun Microsystems he called Sun-Oracle "snorkel" (as if
you pronounce it awfully fast).

This was what made first step to "similarity" at least in one respect of
Linux to MS Windows. Is systemd yet another step? No comment from me, as
at some point I decided to not be on any side of apparently awfully
polarized on this issue community. ;-)

Valeri


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread John Hodrien

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Valeri Galtsev wrote:


But coming back to negative part (which is about almost any Linux
distribution). These often reboots started in my recollection around 2.6
kernel which is long ago.


There's no way that needing a reboot is related to 2.6.  Indeed newer features
like ksplice can /reduce/ the number of reboots required.

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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Fri, October 23, 2015 9:40 am, John Hodrien wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> But coming back to negative part (which is about almost any Linux
>> distribution). These often reboots started in my recollection around 2.6
>> kernel which is long ago.

I always admire the "creative trimming". You can really quite shift what
one tried to say. The above is _not_ the point I tried to make! ;-)

Valeri

>
> There's no way that needing a reboot is related to 2.6.  Indeed newer
> features
> like ksplice can /reduce/ the number of reboots required.
>
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Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] virt-manager

2015-10-23 Thread John R Pierce

On 10/23/2015 3:40 AM, Ashish Yadav wrote:

Go to virtual hardware details of your VM ( by clicking on the open button
after selecting your VM), in that go to display sections and select spice
from vnc.



you mean the open button, that if I push, causes virt-manager to exit ?



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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> James B. Byrne wrote:
>> 
>> I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
>> rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
>> must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
>> misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.
>> 
>> Apparently it is the later.
> 
> So systemd moves Linux to more resemble Windows?


No.  If anything, systemd handles upgrades better than SysV init, since it 
handles re-execing better.  Please stop spreading FUD.


Most likely the glibc and openssl updates are what people are talking about.  
Doesn’t require a reboot, just restarting all the services that might have 
those libraries loaded.

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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread John R Pierce

On 10/23/2015 12:51 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:

No.  If anything, systemd handles upgrades better than SysV init, since it 
handles re-execing better.  Please stop spreading FUD.


Most likely the glibc and openssl updates are what people are talking about.  
Doesn’t require a reboot, just restarting all the services that might have 
those libraries loaded.


and of course, new kernels generally require a reboot, unless you've got 
that live kernel update thing running (which scares the heck out of me).




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Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread m . roth
Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>> James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>> I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
>>> rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
>>> must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
>>> misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.
>>>
>>> Apparently it is the later.
>>
>> So systemd moves Linux to more resemble Windows?
>
> No.  If anything, systemd handles upgrades better than SysV init, since it
> handles re-execing better.  Please stop spreading FUD.

What FUD? It adds *binary* logfiles, readable only with a separate
program; when I restart a service, it does not *tell* me what's going on,
just worked or didn't, so I don't know, if it fails, where, the messages
from journalctl are extremely unhelpful, and when it boots, if I want to
watch, it tends to hide much info. It's much less informative in most ways
in helping me solve problems.

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[CentOS] Re: PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-23 Thread Yamaban

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 22:44, m.r...@5-cent.us  wrote:


Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

James B. Byrne wrote:


I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind.  I too have been
rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency with which I
must reboot my servers.  I wondered whether this was simply a
misconception on my part or an actual change in the environment.

Apparently it is the later.


So systemd moves Linux to more resemble Windows?


No.  If anything, systemd handles upgrades better than SysV init, since it
handles re-execing better.  Please stop spreading FUD.


What FUD? It adds *binary* logfiles, readable only with a separate
program; when I restart a service, it does not *tell* me what's going on,
just worked or didn't, so I don't know, if it fails, where, the messages
from journalctl are extremely unhelpful, and when it boots, if I want to
watch, it tends to hide much info. It's much less informative in most ways
in helping me solve problems.



Well, looking back, during kernel 2.6 there was no systemd at all.
But! That was the time where udev and dbus came into the boot cycle.

IMHO, the intrinsics between glibc (always a cause for refresh of
initrd and full reboot) and udev where the start of the "reboot often".

Later on came dbus from the pure app-message-bus to the monster (kdbus?)
that it is now, adding in its own dreg of dependencies and making the
boot cycle unclean in itself.

The mess we have now, is not the work of just one change.

What was the rationale to get udev into boot? -- Handling the ever
changing mess of plugable, switchable hardware. Not born and bred
for servers, but for mobiles (phones, tablets, laptops).

Who was the one that decided that "one-size-fits-all" and put that
into server environment?

What was the rationale to let dbus near the system start at all?
 -- Again mobile development.

Same as before who was the one that thought, "nice, lets fuck up the 
servers even more with that".


Systemd was just the latest development, and not the worst. Yes, it
could have gone better, and some of the devs have had more
head-in-the-clouds than feet-on-the-ground.

Looking back, systemd is the only "big" change since 2.6 that makes
sense for servers. It's surrounding scene, however, does not make
much sense for servers. Journald is a mess, but solveable --
install a "real" syslogd and get on with life.

The mess that is networking, well, that could have / should have
gone better. Lets not cast out the babe with the wash-water, through.


That the difference between Linux servers and MS-Windows server got
smaller is a matter of both sides.

The difference between a MS-Win 2k server and a MS-Win 2016 server
is much more than just 16 years.

MS-Win 2016 kann be headless. A break-trough, 2012 was partly there.

What was the jump forward for linux servers in this 16 years?

We have lost some of the original Unix way: every tool should do one
thing, and should do it right, be as small and as fast as possible.

MicroSoft seems to have learned from its errors.

Linux, well, atm we make them, and en mass.

 - Yamaban.

PS: PHP devs should keep an eye on PHP 7.
That will be ugly for every one that ignores the warning signs.
Operators and Declarations esp.
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[CentOS] USB audio issues with 6.7

2015-10-23 Thread John R Pierce
hmmm. my associate needs a USB sound thing in his stack...   its 
always worked before, but when I brought him up on a new system with 
6.7, the device is recognized


usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=08bb, idProduct=2704
usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-1: Product: USB Audio DAC
usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Burr-Brown from TI
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 1-1: ctrl urb status -75 received
input: Burr-Brown from TI   USB Audio DACas 
/devices/pci:00/:00:01.2/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.2/input/input3
generic-usb 0003:08BB:2704.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Device 
[Burr-Brown from TI   USB Audio DAC   ] on 
usb-:00:01.2-1/input2


and it shows up as...

$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 
82801AA-ICH]

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: DAC [USB Audio DAC], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


but when he tries to connect to it, like with this test command...

$ mpg123 -a hw:1,0 /audio/36790.mp3
Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: 36790.mp3 ...
[alsa.c:118] error: initialize_device(): cannot set hw params
[audio.c:643] error: failed to open audio device
[mpg123.c:547] error: failed to reset audio device: Broken pipe

and I noted some kernel errors in dmesg...

usb 1-1: cannot submit urb 0, error -22: internal error
usb 1-1: cannot submit urb 0, error -22: internal error
usb 1-1: cannot submit urb 0, error -22: internal error

reading a random forum thread found via googling that error suggested 
someone else had this problem with 6.7 and reverted.   I was running


$ uname -a
Linux kfat.com 2.6.32-573.7.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 22 22:00:00 UTC 
2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


So, reverting to a older kernel fixed this, and it works fine.

$ uname -a
Linux kfat.com 2.6.32-431.17.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed May 7 23:32:49 UTC 
2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


(I had a 6.5 rpm handy).

any clues?   Linux audio has always been a big black box to me.


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Re: [CentOS] virt-manager

2015-10-23 Thread Gordon Messmer

You might try using a Fedora or CentOS VM instead of XMing.
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Re: [CentOS] EFI netboot to kickstart install

2015-10-23 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| Hello All
| 
| 
| Up until now we have been using standard PXE boot to do kick start installs
| of centos boxes. With recent machines however they come by default as EFI
| boot. We can set them to legacy but I would like to solve this before this
| option goes away.
| 
| 
| Just wondering if anyone has any experience setting up a net boot server that
| can be used to kickstart EFI machines?
| 
| 
| Thanks
| 
| 
| Grant

We use iPXE to boot the kernel and initrd files directly from our mirror.  It 
was pretty much dead simple to do too.  No need for unpacking RPMS or placing 
files on our TFTP server (other than iPXE)


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Re: [CentOS] virt-manager

2015-10-23 Thread John R Pierce

On 10/23/2015 4:34 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
You might try using a Fedora or CentOS VM instead of XMing. 


what I've been doing instead is forcing myself to figure out virsh :)



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