Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Waleed Harbi]

SoftEther VPN all-in-one solution and cross platform.

On Monday, April 4, 2016, Gordon Messmer  wrote:

> On 04/04/2016 12:11 PM, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
>
>> This made me google around a little, and I found some good info here.
>> They, too, kind of recommend openvpn.
>>
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/211329/which-is-the-best-vpn-protocol-pptp-vs.-openvpn-vs.-l2tpipsec-vs.-sstp/
>>
>
> This is not good information.
>
> In brief:
>
> "There are some concerns that the NSA could have weakened the standard,
> but no one knows for sure."
> Pure FUD.  There is no reason to believe this as related to IPSec that
> does not apply to other protocols as well.  There is, therefore, no reason
> to write that other than bias.
>
> "Either way, this is a slower solution than OpenVPN. ... It’s a two-step
> process."
> OpenVPN tunnels traffic through a user space process, just like l2tp/ipsec
> does, and in my experience offers no better performance. If throughput is
> your main concern, use IPsec without l2tp.
>
> "because it can be configured to use AES encryption, is arguably more
> trustworthy than L2TP/IPsec."
> IPSec can also use AES as a cipher and provide PFS, for that matter.
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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Gordon Messmer]

On 04/04/2016 12:11 PM, Jussi Hirvi wrote:
This made me google around a little, and I found some good info here. 
They, too, kind of recommend openvpn.
http://www.howtogeek.com/211329/which-is-the-best-vpn-protocol-pptp-vs.-openvpn-vs.-l2tpipsec-vs.-sstp/ 



This is not good information.

In brief:

"There are some concerns that the NSA could have weakened the standard, 
but no one knows for sure."
Pure FUD.  There is no reason to believe this as related to IPSec that 
does not apply to other protocols as well.  There is, therefore, no 
reason to write that other than bias.


"Either way, this is a slower solution than OpenVPN. ... It’s a two-step 
process."
OpenVPN tunnels traffic through a user space process, just like 
l2tp/ipsec does, and in my experience offers no better performance. If 
throughput is your main concern, use IPsec without l2tp.


"because it can be configured to use AES encryption, is arguably more 
trustworthy than L2TP/IPsec."

IPSec can also use AES as a cipher and provide PFS, for that matter.

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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am 04.04.2016 um 19:57 schrieb david:

Folks

I would like to have my windows 7 laptop communicate with my home server
via a VPN, in such a way that it appears to be "inside" my home
network.  It should not only let me appear to be at home for any
external query, but also let me access my computers inside my home.

I already have this working using M$'s PPTP using my home Centos 6
gateway/router as the PoPToP server.  However, I am concerned about the
privacy/security of such a connection.

I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan (and
probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing from
anyone who wishes to comment about which to use, with the following
requirements:

1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the future,
Windows 10)
3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces only (no GUI)

And, should not be a nightmare to set up.

Any thoughts?

David



https://www.tinc-vpn.org/

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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Gordon Messmer]

On 04/04/2016 10:57 AM, david wrote:
I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan 
(and probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing 
from anyone who wishes to comment about which to use, with the 
following requirements:


I recommend l2tp/ipsec.  It's supported out of the box on a wide variety 
of client platforms, which means significantly less work to set up the 
clients.


OpenVPN is a popular choice, and it's fine for most people.  It's more 
work to set up than l2tp/ipsec, typically.  We used it for quite a while 
at my previous employer, though ultimately dropped it because the 
Windows GUI requires admin rights to run, and we didn't want to continue 
giving admin rights to the users we supported.

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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Paul Heinlein]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, david wrote:

I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan 
(and probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing 
from anyone who wishes to comment about which to use, with the 
following requirements:


1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the
future, Windows 10)
3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces
only (no GUI)


OpenVPN can be all that. I say "can be" because you'll want to 
research how best to configure it. Done poorly, it won't be as secure 
as you want. Thankfully, there are a lot of blog posts and list 
threads to consult; it won't take more than a couple hours of reading 
to work out the base configuration.



And, should not be a nightmare to set up.


This might be a problem. :-)

OpenVPN is designed to scale pretty well, but scaling it requires a 
decent knowledge of SSL infrastructure: creating, distributing, and 
revoking certificates. The Easy-RSA utility can ease the process, but 
using it securely takes time and reading.


A very small OpenVPN setup can be done with shared static key, but 
that approach has its own disadvantages (no PFS, all keys in plain 
text, no distribution mechanism).



In short, OpenVPN is an excellent toolset that can be made very secure 
-- and will manage much of the complexity for you -- but it requires a 
non-trivial amount of effort to configure correctly.


To paraphrase The Princess Bride: Security is pain. Anyone who says 
differently is selling something.


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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Jussi Hirvi]

On 4.4.2016 22.01, Eero Volotinen wrote:

And openvpn. Avoid ipsec as it's too complex and pptp is unsecure.


This made me google around a little, and I found some good info here. 
They, too, kind of recommend openvpn.


http://www.howtogeek.com/211329/which-is-the-best-vpn-protocol-pptp-vs.-openvpn-vs.-l2tpipsec-vs.-sstp/

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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Jussi Hirvi]

My partner has been using Openvpn extensively. It looks very reasonable 
and has been quite trustworthy.


It is configured via commandline. The server seems to work on Windows, 
too ("Vista and later"). There are good tutorials for CentOs, for example


https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-and-configure-an-openvpn-server-on-centos-7

- Jussi

On 4.4.2016 20.57, david wrote:
(...)

1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the future,
Windows 10)
3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces only (no GUI)


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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Eero Volotinen]

And openvpn. Avoid ipsec as it's too complex and pptp is unsecure.

Eero
4.4.2016 9.55 ip. "Richard Zimmerman" 
kirjoitti:

> SoftEther VPN
>
> Once setup, it just works
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>
> ---
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> Systems / Network Administrator
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>  S Main Street
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of david
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:57 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7
>
> Folks
>
> I would like to have my windows 7 laptop communicate with my home server
> via a VPN, in such a way that it appears to be "inside" my home network.
> It should not only let me appear to be at home for any external query, but
> also let me access my computers inside my home.
>
> I already have this working using M$'s PPTP using my home Centos 6
> gateway/router as the PoPToP server.  However, I am concerned about the
> privacy/security of such a connection.
>
> I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan (and
> probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone
> who wishes to comment about which to use, with the following requirements:
>
> 1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
> 2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the future,
> Windows 10)
> 3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces only (no GUI)
>
> And, should not be a nightmare to set up.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> David
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Re: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[Richard Zimmerman]

SoftEther VPN

Once setup, it just works

Regards,

Richard


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-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of 
david
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:57 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

Folks

I would like to have my windows 7 laptop communicate with my home server via a 
VPN, in such a way that it appears to be "inside" my home network.  It should 
not only let me appear to be at home for any external query, but also let me 
access my computers inside my home.

I already have this working using M$'s PPTP using my home Centos 6 
gateway/router as the PoPToP server.  However, I am concerned about the 
privacy/security of such a connection.

I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan (and 
probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who 
wishes to comment about which to use, with the following requirements:

1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the future, Windows 
10)
3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces only (no GUI)

And, should not be a nightmare to set up.

Any thoughts?

David

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[John R Pierce]

On 4/4/2016 7:22 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

Yes, this helps at least "single" developers and people that are training
for rhce / rhcsa exam..



it also helps development groups in big corporate environments as they 
won't have to budget and pay annual subscription fees to maintain their 
development systems.



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[CentOS] VPN suggestions centos 6, 7

[david]

Folks

I would like to have my windows 7 laptop communicate with my home 
server via a VPN, in such a way that it appears to be "inside" my 
home network.  It should not only let me appear to be at home for any 
external query, but also let me access my computers inside my home.


I already have this working using M$'s PPTP using my home Centos 6 
gateway/router as the PoPToP server.  However, I am concerned about 
the privacy/security of such a connection.


I have seen discussions of OpenVPN, OpenSwan, LibreVPN, StrongSwan 
(and probably others I haven't noted).  I'd be interested in hearing 
from anyone who wishes to comment about which to use, with the 
following requirements:


1)  As noted, it should be secure (anti NSA?)
2)  Works on Centos 6 and Centos 7 and Windows 7 (and for the future, 
Windows 10)

3)  Can be set up on the server with command line interfaces only (no GUI)

And, should not be a nightmare to set up.

Any thoughts?

David

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Arun Khan]

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Mohammed Zeeshan
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>   As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for
> free to get full access
> to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat
> products in production
> with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a
> production system which
> has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for.
>

Reads like the MSDN program from a Redmond based company.
Good to know though -- thanks.

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[CentOS-announce] Infra - CentOS forums migration

[Fabian Arrotin]

Just to inform you that we'll move some services to a new node, and so
there will be a small impact for the following services :
- https://www.centos.org (no real downtime, as it will just be
redirected automatically)
- https://www.centos.org/forums (see below)

During that migration we'll also consolidate IPv6 and IPv4 connectivity
and also we'll be able to implement higher protocol than TLS 1.0
(because we are/were still using a CentOS 5  based node in the previous
setup)

Migration is scheduled for Wednesday April 6th, 7:00 am UTC time.
You can convert to local time with $(date -d '2016-04-06 7:00 UTC')

The expected "downtime" is estimated to ~30 minutes , time needed to
update/propagate updated dns A/ record[s] + last mysql dump/restore
on the
new node.

Thanks for your comprehending and patience.

on behalf of the Infra team,
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Mon, April 4, 2016 9:25 am, Digimer wrote:
> On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
 and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.

 What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?

 The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
 and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
 Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
 either with dnf or some other way.

 I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
 which I've been running for several years,
 and I don't particularly want to change.

 Any views on this?

>>>
>>> You need read the usage license.
>>>
>>> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
>>> production environment.
>>
>> When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a
>> developer
>> of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
>> it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
>> sense of such offer?
>>
>> Valeri
>
> Our company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very
> helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so
> being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users
> (community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I
> also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no
> problems.
>
> We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is
> important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being
> able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers
> insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful
> sales tool.
>
> In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH
> and our company.

Thanks, everybody. I knew there are clever people who can help poor one to
understand something that doesn't seem to make any sense. Which it
actually does once someone helped you to see bigger picture.

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Eero Volotinen]

And (big) commercial vendors/users always prefer RHEL as it commercially
supported platform.

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2016-04-04 17:25 GMT+03:00 Digimer :

> On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> >>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> >>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> >>>
> >>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> >>>
> >>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> >>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> >>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> >>> either with dnf or some other way.
> >>>
> >>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> >>> which I've been running for several years,
> >>> and I don't particularly want to change.
> >>>
> >>> Any views on this?
> >>>
> >>
> >> You need read the usage license.
> >>
> >> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> >> production environment.
> >
> > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a
> developer
> > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
> > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
> > sense of such offer?
> >
> > Valeri
>
> Our company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very
> helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so
> being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users
> (community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I
> also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no
> problems.
>
> We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is
> important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being
> able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers
> insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful
> sales tool.
>
> In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH
> and our company.
>
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Digimer]

On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
>>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
>>>
>>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
>>>
>>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
>>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
>>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
>>> either with dnf or some other way.
>>>
>>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
>>> which I've been running for several years,
>>> and I don't particularly want to change.
>>>
>>> Any views on this?
>>>
>>
>> You need read the usage license.
>>
>> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
>> production environment.
> 
> When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer
> of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
> it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
> sense of such offer?
> 
> Valeri

Our company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very
helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so
being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users
(community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I
also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no
problems.

We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is
important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being
able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers
insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful
sales tool.

In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH
and our company.

-- 
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[James Hogarth]

On 4 April 2016 at 15:22, Eero Volotinen  wrote:

> Yes, this helps at least "single" developers and people that are training
> for rhce / rhcsa exam..
>
>
Note that this also gives access to the Red Hat Knowledgebase and to beta
downloads both of which can be useful for any CentOS sysadmin.
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Re: [CentOS] EPEL - Clamav update?

[Bowie Bailey]

On 4/4/2016 2:16 AM, Ned Slider wrote:



On 03/04/16 22:10, Ireneusz Piasecki wrote:

W dniu 03.04.2016 o 04:39, Rob Kampen pisze:

EPEL maintainers?
I note messages in the log about updated version 0.99.1 of CLAMAV
being available since Mar 5th.
for CentOS 6 no update is available yet.
I used to use rpmforge for this package but that languished for months
before updates became available and eventually stopped altogether.
Is there something I can do to assist in getting this package updated?
I have no idea if this is a difficult package to compile with lots of
dependancies or some otherwise complexities.
In this era of constant SPAM and so many virus / trojan attempts to do
harm to others, it is vital that we run this package to protect our
users.
Please let me know if / how I can assist.
Kind regards
Rob

Hi,

Does clamav detect anything in this floding e-mail viruses ? My clamav
instalation (with amavisd-new) in centos 5 with the current signatures
detect nothing in compare to virustotal.org antivirus - i noticed that
clamav signatures are lag behind form the top antivir in the market.

Viruses in ZIP archives goes via my e-mail gateway (amavisd-new+clamavd)
and are stopped finally by F-Secure Client Security. So, clamav is
defend from anything ?

Sorry for off topic.



That is pretty much my experience too - I've only seen the occasional 
FP hit from ClamAV on a mail server for as long as I can remember.


The latest flavour of the month seems to be .js ransomware which go 
undetected. I have long blocked all executable file types in amavisd 
as a matter of policy.


IMHO the AV vendors lost the battle a long time ago - they simply 
can't compete with the bad guys nor keep up with the volume and this 
particular layer of defence is now less effective/ineffective.


Adding the Sanesecurity signatures to ClamAV greatly increases its hit 
rate.  It also has the advantage of blocking lots of phishing and spam 
garbage in addition to the viruses and malware.


http://sanesecurity.com/usage/signatures/

There are download scripts for both Linux and Windows available on the 
Sanesecurity site to keep the signatures current.


Further discussion should probably move to the clamav-users mailing list.

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Eero Volotinen]

Yes, this helps at least "single" developers and people that are training
for rhce / rhcsa exam..

br,
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2016-04-04 17:16 GMT+03:00 Mohammed Zeeshan :

> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > > On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> > >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> > >>
> > >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> > >>
> > >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> > >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> > >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> > >> either with dnf or some other way.
> > >>
> > >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> > >> which I've been running for several years,
> > >> and I don't particularly want to change.
> > >>
> > >> Any views on this?
> > >>
> > >
> > > You need read the usage license.
> > >
> > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> > > production environment.
> >
> > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a
> developer
> > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
> > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
> > sense of such offer?
> >
> > Valeri
> >
> > >
> > > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome
> move
> > > by Red Hat.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Valeri Galtsev
> > Sr System Administrator
> > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
> > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> > University of Chicago
> > Phone: 773-702-4247
> > 
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>
> Hi,
>
>   As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for
> free to get full access
> to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat
> products in production
> with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a
> production system which
> has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for.
>
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> B.E Computer Science Engineering
> Certified IT & Cloud Architect & RHCSA
> +919986458839
> Bengaluru, India
>
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Mohammed Zeeshan]

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev 
wrote:

>
> On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> >>
> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> >>
> >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> >> either with dnf or some other way.
> >>
> >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> >> which I've been running for several years,
> >> and I don't particularly want to change.
> >>
> >> Any views on this?
> >>
> >
> > You need read the usage license.
> >
> > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> > production environment.
>
> When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer
> of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
> it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
> sense of such offer?
>
> Valeri
>
> >
> > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move
> > by Red Hat.
> >
> >
> >
> > ___
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> > CentOS@centos.org
> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
> >
>
>
> 
> Valeri Galtsev
> Sr System Administrator
> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> University of Chicago
> Phone: 773-702-4247
> 
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>

Hi,

  As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for
free to get full access
to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat
products in production
with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a
production system which
has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for.

-- 
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B.E Computer Science Engineering
Certified IT & Cloud Architect & RHCSA
+919986458839
Bengaluru, India

https://mohammedzee1000.wordpress.com/

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
>>
>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
>>
>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
>> either with dnf or some other way.
>>
>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
>> which I've been running for several years,
>> and I don't particularly want to change.
>>
>> Any views on this?
>>
>
> You need read the usage license.
>
> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> production environment.

When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer
of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production...
it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a
sense of such offer?

Valeri

>
> If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move
> by Red Hat.
>
>
>
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Eero Volotinen]

Yes, but this is not still (very) big change as redhat partner companies
get rhel linsences for developer / internal use for free.

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2016-04-04 16:55 GMT+03:00 Johnny Hughes :

> On 04/04/2016 08:53 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> >>
> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> >>
> >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> >> either with dnf or some other way.
> >>
> >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> >> which I've been running for several years,
> >> and I don't particularly want to change.
> >>
> >> Any views on this?
> >>
> >
> > You need read the usage license.
> >
> > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> > production environment.
> >
> > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move
> > by Red Hat.
>
>
> Here is the link for the download:
>
> http://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/get-started/
>
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/04/2016 08:53 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
>>
>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
>>
>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
>> either with dnf or some other way.
>>
>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
>> which I've been running for several years,
>> and I don't particularly want to change.
>>
>> Any views on this?
>>
> 
> You need read the usage license.
> 
> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
> production environment.
> 
> If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move
> by Red Hat.


Here is the link for the download:

http://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/get-started/






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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Johnny Hughes]

On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> 
> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> 
> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> either with dnf or some other way.
> 
> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> which I've been running for several years,
> and I don't particularly want to change.
> 
> Any views on this?
> 

You need read the usage license.

That subscription can only be used in development and not in a
production environment.

If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move
by Red Hat.





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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[wwp]

Hello Timothy,


On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:39:54 +0100 Timothy Murphy  wrote:

> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
> 
> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
> 
> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> either with dnf or some other way.
> 
> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> which I've been running for several years,
> and I don't particularly want to change.
> 
> Any views on this?

Wow, it's not really offered as "free", it's a 30-day evaluation.
Try and buy. You won't get support after this is you don't subscribe
to their services and I have no idea what will happen if you can
updates or whatever, even for non-production uses.

Quoting https://access.redhat.com/products/red-hat-enterprise-linux/evaluation:

==
Try Red Hat Enterprise Linux free

Evaluate Red Hat Enterprise Linux for your application deployments, datacenter 
infrastructure or virtual and cloud environments. Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
provides a reliable a secure operating system that you can trust to run your 
most mission critical workloads.

This evaluation:

Provides a single subscription for a variant of Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Offers access to Red Hat's award winning Customer Portal, including 
knowledge, videos, and documentation
Is not intended for production use

Start your evaluation

You will need a Red Hat account to continue. If you are new to Red Hat, you can 
create an account in the next step.
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Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Eero Volotinen]

Yes, they are providing free version only for "developer use".
--
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2016-04-04 16:39 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy :

> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
>
> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
>
> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> either with dnf or some other way.
>
> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> which I've been running for several years,
> and I don't particularly want to change.
>
> Any views on this?
>
> --
> Timothy Murphy
> gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
>
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Re: [CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Maikel van Leeuwen]

Hi,
I think you miss understood  or the authors of the article about 'Redhat
offering their Linux free'.  Can you please provide your source?

First of all it's the distro that has been offered for 'free', but only
for developers. Please read the original press release:

https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-expands-red-hat-developer-program-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux-developer-subscription

As for your question about 'changing things'. There's non for you and
not for Centos.

In regards,
Maikel

On 04/04/2016 03:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.
>
> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?
>
> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
> either with dnf or some other way.
>
> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
> which I've been running for several years,
> and I don't particularly want to change.
>
> Any views on this?
>

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[CentOS] Free Redhat Linux (rhel) version 7.2

[Timothy Murphy]

I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free,
and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it.

What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?

The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me,
and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.
Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates,
either with dnf or some other way.

I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS,
which I've been running for several years,
and I don't particularly want to change.

Any views on this?

-- 
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gayleard /at/ eircom.net
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin


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Re: [CentOS] EPEL - Clamav update?

[Ned Slider]

On 03/04/16 22:10, Ireneusz Piasecki wrote:

W dniu 03.04.2016 o 04:39, Rob Kampen pisze:

EPEL maintainers?
I note messages in the log about updated version 0.99.1 of CLAMAV
being available since Mar 5th.
for CentOS 6 no update is available yet.
I used to use rpmforge for this package but that languished for months
before updates became available and eventually stopped altogether.
Is there something I can do to assist in getting this package updated?
I have no idea if this is a difficult package to compile with lots of
dependancies or some otherwise complexities.
In this era of constant SPAM and so many virus / trojan attempts to do
harm to others, it is vital that we run this package to protect our
users.
Please let me know if / how I can assist.
Kind regards
Rob

Hi,

Does clamav detect anything in this floding e-mail viruses ? My clamav
instalation (with amavisd-new) in centos 5 with the current signatures
detect nothing in compare to virustotal.org antivirus - i noticed that
clamav signatures are lag behind form the top antivir in the market.

Viruses in ZIP archives goes via my e-mail gateway (amavisd-new+clamavd)
and are stopped finally by F-Secure Client Security. So, clamav is
defend from anything ?

Sorry for off topic.



That is pretty much my experience too - I've only seen the occasional FP 
hit from ClamAV on a mail server for as long as I can remember.


The latest flavour of the month seems to be .js ransomware which go 
undetected. I have long blocked all executable file types in amavisd as 
a matter of policy.


IMHO the AV vendors lost the battle a long time ago - they simply can't 
compete with the bad guys nor keep up with the volume and this 
particular layer of defence is now less effective/ineffective.


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