Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll - So Long, and Thanks for All the fish.

2017-04-17 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Anthony K  wrote:
> 
> Also, there's a lot of people moving to FreeBSD - but it appears that the 
> grass isn't greener there either as they are now trialling OpenRC.

You appear to have misunderstood my post.

First, TrueOS is not FreeBSD.  TrueOS is to FreeBSD as Ubuntu is to Debian, 
kinda-sorta.  Some of the things the TrueOS people do make their way back into 
FreeBSD, but TrueOS largely exists for those who want an easier desktop 
experience than stock FreeBSD or want a semi-supported bleeding-edge 
distribution of FreeBSD.

Now that TrueOS is based on the CURRENT (i.e. bleeding-edge) branch of FreeBSD 
development, TrueOS also serves a pioneer role for FreeBSD: those being the 
guys with all the arrows in their backs.

Because of that, TrueOS’s adoption of OpenRC doesn’t mean FreeBSD will follow 
suit.  Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.

Second, it’s not a “trial”.  It was announced, and then suddenly between two 
versions BSD rc was switched to OpenRC.  No “are you sure,” no “here are the 
consequences,” no “sorry, what you’re doing here is incompatible.”  Just boom, 
best-effort automatic conversion; if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.

(Kinda makes you smile when you remember all the threads from those who found 
out that RHEL family OSes can’t self-upgrade between major versions.  Suddenly 
it’s looking like a feature.  Imagine if the EL6 to EL7 transition happened the 
same way.)

FreeBSD proper splits the difference between these two upgrade methods.  You 
have to explicitly opt into minor version upgrades, and automatic major version 
upgrades are possible but always offered with plenty of warnings and migration 
advice.

If you want a FreeBSD-specific lesson from this, it would be “don't run 
12.0-CURRENT on critical servers.”

Also, I’ll remind the list that one of the *prior* times the systemd topic came 
up, I was the one reminding people that most of our jobs summarize as “Cope 
with change.”
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Re: [CentOS] Pulseaudio

2017-04-17 Thread Pete Orrall
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Adrian van Bloois  wrote:
> Hi,
> I get this error message:
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: 
> Connection refused
>
> It does not say connection to what, ??
> And is this a matter of permission???
> This is C7 latest and greatest.
> Any ideas???

Hi Adrian,

Could you provide more information?  What are you trying to do?  Is
this a new system?  What software and hardware are you using?

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

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[CentOS] Pulseaudio

2017-04-17 Thread Adrian van Bloois
Hi,
I get this error message:
ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection 
refused

It does not say connection to what, ??
And is this a matter of permission???
This is C7 latest and greatest.
Any ideas???

Adrian



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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

2017-04-17 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 16/04/2017 à 22:46, Robert Moskowitz a écrit :
> That means loading gnome.  I use Xfce.  Much better battery life with Xfce.

On a side note (from a Vim user), Geany works perfectly under Xfce and
has no weird GNOME dependencies. I know because I maintain an
Xfce-centered distribution. (https://www.microlinux.eu)

Cheers,

Niki

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