Re: [CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......

2021-02-02 Thread R C


On 2/2/21 4:21 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:



On 2/2/21 5:10 PM, R C wrote:


On 2/2/21 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote:
This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, 
don't know.



"New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to
access RHEL"

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel 


It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday.

In short:

1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register

2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems 
listed

    at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions

3. Download and install from 
https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download


4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME
    (where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with)

and there you go.

It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each 
individual to
have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) 
terms here:


I would not use it for production, or commercial purposes, just so I 
have the same at home (or close) as at work. I wonder, does that mean 
you can have  up to 16 licensed servers/workstations running at a 
time? Or over time, when you discard equipment, and need to install 
another machine/desktop, whatever by the time you're at 17 start paying?




When I was thinking similar situation over - with different kind of 
proprietary product free up to some number... my sentiment ended up 
being: OK, I plan all my future well, and fit all into that restricted 
number, let's say 16. But what if at some point they change their mind 
and this number suddenly becomes 12. I definitely can not plan what in 
the future they will do. And specifically recent events showed that 
they do change things.


And the I went free open source route. And never regretted.

But it is everybody's individual decision, and those who make it will 
have only themselves to blame if ever get into trouble as the result.


Incidentally, I for one blame myself that I have to change my routine 
from CentOS [to Debian]. Not that that is much of a hassle. This is 
not the first migration in my life, and hopefully not the last one ;-) 
- meaning long life for myself, not short life for Debian.


Valeri

well, my point is not that I don't know what alternative to use, there 
is enough, I couldn't care less to use Ubuntu or something. (I actually 
have an Ubuntu machine as well as a Debian machine, for two very 
specific  applications.)



The reason why I have some Centos stuff is because it is very close to 
Redhat, and where I work we use A LOT of redhat 
machines/servers/clusters, so it is just convenience. That is why I used 
Centos, and if this mechanism/program is available, well, I'll use that.







(I am checking that with a redhat rep that we have at work too).


https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true_cid=701f201Css0AAC 




It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized 
before:

this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security
updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor 
release),

which is something CentOS never did.



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Re: [CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......

2021-02-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev



On 2/2/21 5:10 PM, R C wrote:


On 2/2/21 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote:
This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, 
don't know.



"New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to
access RHEL"

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel 


It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday.

In short:

1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register

2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems 
listed

    at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions

3. Download and install from 
https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download


4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME
    (where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with)

and there you go.

It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each 
individual to
have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) terms 
here:


I would not use it for production, or commercial purposes, just so I 
have the same at home (or close) as at work. I wonder, does that mean 
you can have  up to 16 licensed servers/workstations running at a time? 
Or over time, when you discard equipment, and need to install another 
machine/desktop, whatever by the time you're at 17 start paying?




When I was thinking similar situation over - with different kind of 
proprietary product free up to some number... my sentiment ended up 
being: OK, I plan all my future well, and fit all into that restricted 
number, let's say 16. But what if at some point they change their mind 
and this number suddenly becomes 12. I definitely can not plan what in 
the future they will do. And specifically recent events showed that they 
do change things.


And the I went free open source route. And never regretted.

But it is everybody's individual decision, and those who make it will 
have only themselves to blame if ever get into trouble as the result.


Incidentally, I for one blame myself that I have to change my routine 
from CentOS [to Debian]. Not that that is much of a hassle. This is not 
the first migration in my life, and hopefully not the last one ;-) - 
meaning long life for myself, not short life for Debian.


Valeri



(I am checking that with a redhat rep that we have at work too).


https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true_cid=701f201Css0AAC 




It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized 
before:

this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security
updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor 
release),

which is something CentOS never did.



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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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Re: [CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......

2021-02-02 Thread R C


On 2/2/21 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote:

This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, don't know.


"New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to
access RHEL"

https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel

It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday.

In short:

1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register

2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems listed
at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions

3. Download and install from 
https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download

4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME
(where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with)

and there you go.

It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each individual to
have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) terms here:


I would not use it for production, or commercial purposes, just so I 
have the same at home (or close) as at work. I wonder, does that mean 
you can have  up to 16 licensed servers/workstations running at a time? 
Or over time, when you discard equipment, and need to install another  
machine/desktop, whatever by the time you're at 17 start paying?


(I am checking that with a redhat rep that we have at work too).



https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true_cid=701f201Css0AAC


It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized before:
this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security
updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor release),
which is something CentOS never did.



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Re: [CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......

2021-02-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 03:49:35PM -0700, R C wrote:
> This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, don't know.
> 
> 
> "New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to
> access RHEL"
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel

It came out a few weeks ago but the program is live as of yesterday.

In short:

1. Register at https://developers.redhat.com/register

2. You'll now see a developer subscription allowing up to 16 systems listed 
   at https://access.redhat.com/management/subscriptions

3. Download and install from 
https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download

4. sudo subscription-manager register --username $USERNAME
   (where $USERNAME is the email address you registered with)

and there you go.

It says "Developer Subscription" but the new terms allow each individual to
have up to 16 systems for production use. See the (single page) terms here:

https://www.redhat.com/wapps/tnc/viewterms/72ce03fd-1564-41f3-9707-a09747625585?extIdCarryOver=true_cid=701f201Css0AAC


It may also be of interest to note something which I hadn't realized before:
this subscription includes the "EUS" offering which provides security
updates to select minor releases (so you can "pin" to that minor release),
which is something CentOS never did.


-- 
Matthew Miller

Fedora Project Leader
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[CentOS] not a Centos topic, but since many had concerns ......

2021-02-02 Thread R C

Hello,


not a Centos topic perse, but since many had concerns about  'regular' 
Centos going away, and  "Centos Stream" replacing it.



This is what I read today, might have been around longer though, don't know.


"New Year, new Red Hat Enterprise Linux programs: Easier ways to access 
RHEL"


https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel



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[CentOS] Reminder: CentOS Dojo this week. FOSDEM this weekend

2021-02-02 Thread Rich Bowen

TL;DR:

https://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/FOSDEM2021 <-- Dojo Thursday and Friday

https://fosdem.org/2021/ <-- FOSDEM Saturday and Sunday

The full schedule of talks for the Dojo is available at the above URL, 
and includes a roundtable discussion with (some of) the Board. 
Registration is free, and all talks will be recorded for later viewing 
on our YouTube channel. But of course if you want to participate in the 
Q aspect of the event, you'll need to be there.


Hoping to see you Thursday,

--Rich

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Re: [CentOS] grub2-mkconfig with custom kernel

2021-02-02 Thread Jerry Geis
Sorry - it was an EFI system - so different path is needed.
/boot/efi/EFI/centos/grub.cfg

Jerry

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:05 AM Jerry Geis  wrote:

> Hi - I am running CentOS 7
> I tried to add a custom initrd and custom vmlinux
>
> when I run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> the custom files are not listed .
> when I reboot my entry for /etc/grub.d/40_custom is not listed either.
>
> How do I get grub2-mkconfig to recognize my entries ?
> Is grub2-mkconfig only looking at installed kernels - How do I get it to
> see mine?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jerry
>
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[CentOS] grub2-mkconfig with custom kernel

2021-02-02 Thread Jerry Geis
Hi - I am running CentOS 7
I tried to add a custom initrd and custom vmlinux

when I run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
the custom files are not listed .
when I reboot my entry for /etc/grub.d/40_custom is not listed either.

How do I get grub2-mkconfig to recognize my entries ?
Is grub2-mkconfig only looking at installed kernels - How do I get it to
see mine?

Thanks

Jerry
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[CentOS-announce] ConfigManagement SIG : removal of old/unmaintained ansible versions

2021-02-02 Thread Fabian Arrotin
Notification:

So far, the ConfigManagement SIG rebuilt and shipped some Ansible
versions through different repos (per "branch") over the last
months/years , so we currently still have on mirror.centos.org (and so
external mirrors) the following repositories :

For CentOS 7:
- ansible 2.6
- ansible 2.7
- ansible 2.8
- ansible 2.9

For CentOS 8 (also working on 8-stream) :
- ansible 2.9

Per Ansible EOL policy (see
https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/reference_appendices/release_and_maintenance.html)
we'll continue to maintain 2.8 (security fixes if they appear) and 2.9
but we'll remove previous versions/repositories.

Worth knowing that they'd still be available through vault.centos.org
though, but not available directly through a centos-release-ansible*.rpm
(configuring yum/dnf repositories on systems)

So far I never had a chance/time to look at ansible 2.10, as there is a
split between ansible-base and ansible-core and then collections.
My goal would be to discuss with EPEL/Fedora maintainer (Kevin Fenzi)
about the best way to have it working and then we can start (re)building
through configmanagement tags on https://cbs.centos.org

Kind Regards,
-- 
Fabian Arrotin
The CentOS Project | https://www.centos.org
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