Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-24 Thread Simon Matter
>>
>> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL has
>> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst
>> other things) -- as it SHOULD, given that it's intended as an addon to
>> EL and needs to be very tightly controlled.  It's just more difficult to
>> get started these days relative to when anyone could build an rpm as
>> long as they had a copy of Maximum RPM and knew how to drive 'rpm -ba'
>>  back when building as root in a non-reproducible buildroot wasn't a
>> cardinal sin.
>>
>
> Not that it matters .. BUT .. EL8 is much harder to build for.  There
> are modular components, not all the Devel files exist, etc.
>
> It is much harder than EL7.

Thanks Johnny for reminding. I was wondering why the situation for EL8 is
so much worse than for EL7 and that was true before CentOS Stream came up.

In the end I have never been happy with the new modules system and how it
makes packaging much more difficult than it was and than it should be.

IMHO the hurdles to build high quality packages should be as simple as
possible but the difficulties to do so went in the wrong direction. The
result we see now. Today we have an unstable distribution (Fedora) with a
quite good and comprehensive package set, and we have stable (EL) with an
unstable and lacking package set.

Simon

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Re: [CentOS] e2fsck but says mounted and cannot

2021-02-24 Thread Jon LaBadie

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 02:02:38PM -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:

I have a system that needs to run e2fsck (C7). I boot into rescue mode,
skip to shell (option 3).
enter they PW and I type:

e2fsck -y /dev/sda1
and it says is mounted. This is "/"

What do I do so I can run e2fsck ?



A good first step is to enter "run fsck on root filesystem",
or some such, into your favorite search engine.

Possibilities:

1. # touch /forcefsck
   # reboot

2. # reboot
   select rescue mode from grub menu which likely has an fsck option

3. boot into live media rather than your hard disk
   now your root partition is just any old partition to fsck

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[CentOS] OpenStack Training Recommendations

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Heinlein

Our team at work is looking for OpenStack training options. The
training should cover

* overview of widely used OpenStack services
* network architecture
* installation and configuration
* ongoing administration, maintenance, and troubleshooting
* upgrading

We'd prefer workflows based around Puppet or Ansible, since we know
those tools, but operational continuity is more important than the
tools used.

We'd likewise prefer solutions oriented toward CentOS or RHEL, but, 
again, it's just a preference.


We've investigated kolla-ansible for deployment, but we're not adverse
to changing toolsets if the upside is right.

I'd characterize our team as journeymen to expert system 
administrators. We specialize in supporting research groups. The 
training would be to provide skills and knowledge for our team to 
support OpenStack as a long-term in-house virtualization option.


I'd love to hear your first-hand experiences with any specific
training offerings.

Thanks!

(Note: we have other virtualization solutions in place. OpenStack is 
specifically required by researchers whose wider scientific 
communities have built workflows for that environment. Suggestions to 
ditch OpenStack for OtherGreatSolution will be ignored.)


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Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-24 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 2/11/21 2:13 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 2/11/21 11:18 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
>> For the past couple years, my solution has been to use RHEL clones
>> (CentOS and Oracle Linux) on servers only (multi-user.target). I've
>> moved all my graphical installations (workstation, laptops, desktop
>> clients) to OpenSUSE Leap + KDE. 
> 
> For a really long time I was pretty successful in running EL on both the
> desktop and the server.  It HAS been getting way harder to do this.  The
> EPEL, ELrepo, and RPMfusion repositories do a fantastic job overall, but
> there were way too many things missing from EPEL8 especially where the
> desktop experience was becoming a pretty sizable drain on my time
> building the packages I needed from Fedora.  KiCAD and Sigrok were the
> toughest.
> 
> I greatly prefer running the same OS version on my desktops and servers;
> makes management a lot easier.  So this is part of why I am in the midst
> of evaluating a wholesale migration to Debian 10.  On the server it
> works well, if somewhat different in setup; on the desktop it works so
> much better, with a huge and maintained repository, where I haven't had
> to dip into a PPA but once, and that was for a quick one-off package. 
> It's in the virtualization arena where I am gobsmacked; I'm evaluating
> Proxmox, which is based on Debian 10, using the no-subscription
> repositories.  Let me tell you, Proxmox has one more slick and highly
> integrated experience. Relative to running a KVM host with only the
> stock CentOS 8 cockpit and virt-manager, the Proxmox experience blew me
> away.
> 
> I didn't realize just how much time I was spending finding third-party
> packages for EL8 until I didn't have to.
> 
> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL has
> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst
> other things) -- as it SHOULD, given that it's intended as an addon to
> EL and needs to be very tightly controlled.  It's just more difficult to
> get started these days relative to when anyone could build an rpm as
> long as they had a copy of Maximum RPM and knew how to drive 'rpm -ba'
>  back when building as root in a non-reproducible buildroot wasn't a
> cardinal sin.
> 

Not that it matters .. BUT .. EL8 is much harder to build for.  There
are modular components, not all the Devel files exist, etc.

It is much harder than EL7.

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Re: [CentOS] e2fsck but says mounted and cannot

2021-02-24 Thread Ger van Dijck
Op Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:02:38 +0100 schreef Jerry Geis  
:



I have a system that needs to run e2fsck (C7). I boot into rescue mode,
skip to shell (option 3).
enter they PW and I type:

e2fsck -y /dev/sda1
and it says is mounted. This is "/"

What do I do so I can run e2fsck ?

Thanks,

Jerry




Hi Jerry ,


I would say unmount it and then run the file check.

Ger van Dijck

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[CentOS] e2fsck but says mounted and cannot

2021-02-24 Thread Jerry Geis
I have a system that needs to run e2fsck (C7). I boot into rescue mode,
skip to shell (option 3).
enter they PW and I type:

e2fsck -y /dev/sda1
and it says is mounted. This is "/"

What do I do so I can run e2fsck ?

Thanks,

Jerry
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