Re: [CentOS] Upgrade from CentOS 5.4 to 5.6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi all, > > So, how can I get it my CentOS from 5.6 to 6.0? Backup data Clean install Restore data. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem with net-install
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 07/12/2011 02:32 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> Add: AMD Geode (586 non-PAE) can run CentOS 5 but not 6. >> >> Desired: Somebody who is good with repos and rpms please put the >> linux kernel (for centos 6) "somewhere" so > > the via EPIA and the P3 mentioned earlier in this thread are all i686 > compatible, so pose no real issue for C6 to run on. However, with the > Geode, it might be a bit more difficult. > > also, i suspect its not just the kernel that needs rebuilding and > mod'ing of patches for, you might need to rebuild much of > userland as well. > > - KB > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -march=i586 cures many many many ills. Rebuilding the whole damned distro takes a few zillion machine cycles. Running the Linux Verification Suite takes another few zillion cycles. But, once done, it's done. It's just more spin domain knowledge than I wanted to become proficient at. However: if nobody else will, I must, or I must take my employers' product/project and go elsewhere. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] use of MAILTO variable in crontab
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Wed Jul 13 15:03:40 EDT 2011, Michael Best mbest at pendragon.org > wrote: >> Like this: >> >> MAILTO=testaddr at harte-lyne.ca >> 30 2 * * * echo "this should be mailed" > > That sets MAILTO for the entire crontab does it not? I want to set > MAILTO differently for specific crontab entries. Is that possible? > How is it done? Or do I have to pipe stuff to /usr/bin/mail > explicitly? Note: The script that you trigger (a wrapper for the command you really want to run) can have the per-command peculiarities in it. Also: the command in the crontab file can look like 'cmd | mail -s "Subject of mail" user' Also: a file (e.g. 'mumble') in the /etc/cron.d directory is effectively an extension of the /etc/crontab file, and MAILTO can be set there (IIRC it will only effect entries in that /etc/cron.d/mumble file). Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: USB3 drive occasionally not detected
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 13:42 schrieb Brunner, Brian T.: > >> Try this: >> Make (eg) /usr/bin/usb3mount (your own wrapper for /bin/mount for >> usb3 devices) Include the line >> for num in 0 1 2 3 4 5 ; do echo "- - -" > >> /sys/class/scsi_host/host$num/scan; done > > No effect (have a number 9 t# therefore I run from 0 till 9. > > Message: > > ./usb3mount: line 2: /sys/class/scsi_host/host4/scan: Datei oder > Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > ./usb3mount: line 2: /sys/class/scsi_host/host5/scan: Datei oder > Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > ./usb3mount: line 2: /sys/class/scsi_host/host6/scan: Datei oder > Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > ./usb3mount: line 2: /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan: Datei oder > Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > ./usb3mount: line 2: /sys/class/scsi_host/host8/scan: Datei oder > Verzeichnis nicht gefunden "file or directory not found" Look for /sys /sys/class /sys/class/scsi_host /sys/class/scsi_host/host1 ... /sys/class/scsi_host/host8 And see which aren't there. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me (I have nothing to do with the following text) *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: USB3 drive occasionally not detected
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011, 16:20:22 schrieb Lamar Owen: >> An alternative would be to use the ELrepo 'mainline' kernel, >> assuming it has the xhci and/or xhci_hcd modules; but you'd be on >> your own configuring udev and friends to use it. > No option - too complicated for my knowledge. This is yet another plea for Centos users with repo knowledge putting the kernel sources where anybody can yum install them, And users with kernel knowledge building a broader-capability kernel (i586, non-PAE, and USB3 are the needed add-ins named on this list so far), And a user to merge our supplied changes into this centosplus kernel. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: USB3 drive occasionally not detected
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi Folks, > > CentOS 5.5 x86_64 > > Asrock-Board with 2 USB3 plugs. > > Normally USB3-drive is detected. But occasionaly after "umount" next > time this drive or other ones will not be detected. > I have to boot the PC - than it works - till next unrecognition. > > On USB2 plugs all works correct. > > No messages in /var/log/messages nor dmesg. > > What happens here? > Board failure - or other reasons? > > Some hints welcome. > > Timothy > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Try this: Make (eg) /usr/bin/usb3mount (your own wrapper for /bin/mount for usb3 devices) Include the line for num in 0 1 2 3 4 5 ; do echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host$num/scan; done Caveat: The number set 0-5 has to do with *my* scsi busses and devices thereon. Your numbers may be different. I use this re-scan to detect hot-swapped sata disks for multi-spindle backup Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6. > > and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs? > > PLEASE stop this noise, just to hear yourself talk, Ljubomir In this context, Russ, Ljubomir > Russ for adding useful fact to the list. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with > a grain of > salt.) > > If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode > installer kicks in. > If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched, Can you decieve this installer with swap? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Installing from CD
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > > this machine can boot only from a ... HardDrive. USB is not an option. What I did: Move said hard drive to a system that has a DVD, and install there. I had to "tweak a few things" because of how the install process worked, and the differences in hardware between this DVD-capable system and my target systems, but, after said futzing, I had a HD that would boot my target systems, and I could dupe the drive for all the product we make. After that, the drive is a "programmable part", and the code we run is an application we update in the field... ...if you're a server environment, your hurdles will not be the same as mine. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Switch from SL -> Centos
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:31:36 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > [] > But I'm confused. Your advice : > > > what is "yum reinstall \*"? It's telling yum to reinstall every-frigging-thing. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem with net-install
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:54:56AM -0700, Drew wrote: >>> CentOS 6 was not really intended for slower systems, none of the >>> newer distros are. CentOS 6 kernel for example does not support 586 >>> CPU's. >> >> I'd like to know where you read that because I'm looking at putting >> CentOS 6 onto a couple of lower end boxes, specifically a >> P3-800(mobile) and an older VIA EPIA, which are fully supported in >> CentOS 5. > > While I don't know aobut the VIA EPIA, any P3 is a "i686" compatible > processor, and would therefore be supported. > > 586-class cpus include all pentiums prior to PII/Pentium-Pro, all > Intel chips older than that, AMD K5, K6, K6-II and some number of > cyrix/via chips (which ones, specifically, I do not know). Add: AMD Geode (586 non-PAE) can run CentOS 5 but not 6. Desired: Somebody who is good with repos and rpms please put the linux kernel (for centos 6) "somewhere" so Yum --enablerepo=somewhere install full-kernel-source will put the kernel source on our machines so we "abandoned children" can at least feed ourselves. We can hack the kernel until we all can run CentOS 6 on our wind-up-key embedded/headless/whatever minimachines. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Monday, July 11, 2011 10:03 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> Ljubomir The Wise wrote: >>> Short version (I am hungry): >>> >>> Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux >>> administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows >>> users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you >>> have to fully replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux >>> Apps. Period. >> >> +googolplex! >> DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype, >> garage-band, and many many more. >> Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody >> who knows how. My wife will *never* know how. >> Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for >> the game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything >> needed, configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the >> Linux side) or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the >> desktop. >> > > I hear that WoW is going the way of the dodo due to lack of creativity Those voices aren't technologically savvy. WoW is still growing. > there. Maybe you have some other more pressing example > likeminesweeper? ___ I am at a loss parsing your reply as anything other than ignorant derision. Why do you think minesweeper is more pressing? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Celebrating Centos 6.0 Day World-wide
Ljubomir The Wise wrote: > Short version (I am hungry): > > Experience (19 years of Windows phone support and 5 years of Linux > administration and usage as a desktop surrounded by Windows > users) says that in order to convert (reluctant) Windows user you have to fully > replicate Windows environment with compatible Linux Apps. Period. +googolplex! DirectX games, facebook, facebook games, other games, skype, garage-band, and many many more. Many of these *can* be tweaked into running under Linux, by somebody who knows how. My wife will *never* know how. Yum install "World of Warcraft" (or whatever game, which looks for the game installed on your NTFS file system, downloads anything needed, configures and leaves a ready-to-click-and-play WoW on the Linux side) or forget it, you're not ready to push Windows off the desktop. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Congratulations to the Centos Team for the hard work on Centos 6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > 2011/7/11 Luigi Rosa : >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Philip L Pinto said the following on 11/07/11 06:11: >> >>> I just wanted to say Congratulations and thank you to the Centos >>> Team for all of the work on Centos 6 - >> >> +1 > > Great. +1. Now just waiting for Centos 6.1 Here's hoping CentOS 6.1 comes out before RHEL 6.2 Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 7/8/11, Mark Bradbury wrote: >> Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is >> sorely lacking. >> >> Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. >> >> For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more >> transparent and professional. It really does not look good for >> CentOS and open source in general. > > The fact the devs did do something about the complaints, > Much better than the total blackout from before. Something is better than nothing, for sufficiently large values of something. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] More on CentOS autotools bug
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin > wrote: > >> "Building" a simple test case in this situation is as simple as >> narrowing down the steps and changes leading to the problem. Your >> refusal to provide relevant information probably wasted more time >> than anything else. One is almost tempted to think this was an >> elaborate troll :D > > I was tempted to read his website. He is a 75 yr old man who > is deaf and blind. This suggests, to me, cutting a little slack for the man. About his hearing implant, which enables him to hear sound but not understand speech: "If I am in a noisy place it is nice to be able to turn off my hearing." I have wished I could switch off my hearing, MANY times in stores, and on the streets (no fan of loud rap here!). Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing the size of the swap memory
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 07/06/11 5:40 PM, John J. Boyer wrote: >> When I first installed my CentOS system the machine had only 1 GB. >> the swap memory was set to 2 GB Now the machine has 4 GB but swap is >> still 2 GB. With that much memory maybe it doesn't matter, but it >> sure looks odd. Is there any way to change it? >> > > add another swap extent via the swapon(8) command. > > but, 2gb is plenty of swap for a 4gb system, anyone who > insists on swap > >= physical memory is smoking something left over from the 1970s. This is true both literally and figuratively. FIRST determine whether your usage of your hardware forces the system to use ANY swap at all. (my little 256MB RAM embedded systems have NO swap whatsoever). Then, add swap if needed. Don't bother if it's not needed. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] When CentOS 6 arrives ...
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > What is the best way to install CentOS 6? DVDs you download and burn onto drives you've backed up onto (yet) other drives. > Is there an upgrade facility from CentOS-5.6? Officially no, technically possible[1], considered unwise by many if not most system babysitters & admins. > If so, how does this compare with a clean installation? See above: considered unwise even if possible. [1] Say something is IMpossible, and you'll soon be run over by somebody who wasn't listening, and just did it. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Log monitoring
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 7/6/2011 5:37 AM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> Currently I do 'tail -f /var/log/messages | grep something' to >>> monitor/tune in my iptables rules. >>> >>> Based on your experience, is there any tools do that better like: >>> - color >>> - grepping multiple keywords >>> - some statistic >> >> I don't know about any tools for this, but I did want to point out >> that grep can handle multiple keywords. >> >> $ tail -f /var/log/messages | grep -e keyword1 -e keyword2 > -e keyword3 > > Haven't used them, but cactus? splunk? And I think you want -F (not -f) so your tail will follow the file /var/log/messages across logrotates. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Power-outage
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> >>> And the APC Smart-UPS 750 units are not all that expensive >>> either. Even the 1500VA units are a lot less expensive then they >>> were 5-10 years ago. $250-$300 to protect $2000-$6000 worth > of hardware is worth it in my book. >> >> To what extent does a UPS *protect* the hardware? >> Maintaining up-time during brief brown-outs is one thing I expect of >> a UPS,Orderly shutdown is another thing I expect of a UPS. >> >> *protection* of the PC from irregularity in the AC Mains by a UPS, >> however, I question. Rather, it seems, any power irregularity that >> would kill a PC by propagating through the PSU will also propagate >> through the UPS. >> >> NO UPS MADE TODAY (according to my reading of the stats on >> advertisements) eats lightning strikes and asks for more. >> >> So per your experiences and greater technical savvy: What PSU/PC kill >> power irregularities will be stopped by which UPS? > > Really? That's what you read in the specs? Yes. Compare the joules rating (as being stopped by a UPS with surge suppression) to the joules required to damage the computer on the other side of a PSU. So per your experiences and greater technical savvy: What PSU/PC kill power irregularities will be stopped by which UPS? Robert Heller suggested that UPS architecture matters: AC->DC::DC Batteries::DC->AC Where input AC is electrically decoupled from output AC. Not many adverts for UPS's explain whether this is the case with their UPS. > Here, I thought that good quality surge protectors would do that, > and my UPS does says surge protection as well as UPS. IIRC, UPSs, and better surge > protectors, offer a multi-thousand dollar warranty if it doesn't stop a large > surge and your system's fried. Have you tried collecting on said warranties? Be prepared to prove that the surge that fried your hardware did not exceed the joules rating on the surge suppressor. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Power-outage
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 7/1/2011 10:59 AM, Robert Heller wrote: >> >> APC UPSes are supported by apcupsd. Other brands, not so much. Some >> (read: cheaper models) have their own special protocol and don't >> include Linux support. These solutions are intended for the cheaper >> or otherwise 'unsupported' UPSes. It *sounds* like the OP does not >> need something smart and is probably looking for something cheap. >> > > And the APC Smart-UPS 750 units are not all that expensive > either. Even the 1500VA units are a lot less expensive then they were 5-10 > years ago. $250-$300 to protect $2000-$6000 worth of hardware is worth > it in my book. To what extent does a UPS *protect* the hardware? Maintaining up-time during brief brown-outs is one thing I expect of a UPS, Orderly shutdown is another thing I expect of a UPS. *protection* of the PC from irregularity in the AC Mains by a UPS, however, I question. Rather, it seems, any power irregularity that would kill a PC by propagating through the PSU will also propagate through the UPS. NO UPS MADE TODAY (according to my reading of the stats on advertisements) eats lightning strikes and asks for more. So per your experiences and greater technical savvy: What PSU/PC kill power irregularities will be stopped by which UPS? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 06/15/2011 10:41 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote: >> Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot >> of advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional >> wisdom might suggest otherwise. Who's with me on this? > > Three is evil, four even more. Two spaces and what do they say? It > will keep sanity close and evil at bay. Three won't work, we all know > she's a jerk. Four is a fail, it's missing a two so can never be the > grail. Just two FTW! Anything more is just a deadly sin. > > Regards, > Patrick > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos In .vimrc :set sw=4 :set ai In .bashrc alias diff='diff -bw' Hands everybody but OP a beer. Offers John R Dennison a gallon of gasoline to apply to OP Said gallon of gasoline has a pound of styrofoam dissolved in... Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: high static in server room
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > I have an antistatic mat on the floor in front of my server > rack similar to this. > http://www.uline.com/BL_1755/Anti-Static-Mats > Simple, does the job, and it also feels good on the feets! > > If you spend a lot of time in your server room, you might > also consider a fish tank. > It will add moisture to your room and give you something to look at > other than flashing leds:-) Danger Will Robinson!!! Do NOT raise electric eels or rays in said fish tank! Think: ESD every feeding time... Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: high static in server room
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 06/14/11 5:04 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: >> What is the worst thing can happen from excessive static? ESD (Electro-static Discharge) is the "Radioactive Crystal Meth" of computers. How much you can take before you exhibit measurable capability loss is a detail of interest only to people with no vested interest in the operation. *ANY* ESD is a bullet hole. Avoid them like a painful death. > fried electronics. or, imho worse than total failure, is downstream > flakiness induced by partial gate failures from said static zaps. Damage to circuitry is not all "instant-or-never"; damaged junctions can take their own time (sometimes zero) to degenerate from damaged-but-perfectly-functional to occasional errors to persistent failure. There is no way to predict which chip(s) take total/partial/creeping damage from ESD. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: high static in server room
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi guys, > Sorry for the OT. > For the last couple of weeks I notice that the static in my server > room is worrisomely noticeable. > I cannot see what may be causing it > Care to share some of your experience what may be the cause > and the remedy? > > Thank you. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Causes: Low humidity for temperature Improper footwear. Solutions: Air ionizer in server room Tweak humidity/temp control Felt slippers and/or anti-static grounding straps. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Recall: EXTERNAL: A bridge problem
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > on 6/13/2011 12:07 PM Massey, Ricky spake the following: >> Massey, Ricky would like to recall the message, "EXTERNAL: > [CentOS] A bridge problem". > Although recall would be nice, internet mailing lists are forever! > What is said cannot be unsaid... ESPECIALLY if it was stupid, or unnecessary. Put spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Revisor
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 02:59:44PM -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> >> Please stop fretting about top posting. > > http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 > > "Guidelines for CentOS Mailing List posts" - specific section quoted > below: > > 2. Please do not top post to the mailing list when replying to a post. Now: Please stop fretting about it, posting about it, or adding to list-clutter with it. Whining/nannying/naziing about top-posting is more annoying than top-posting. Send it in private mail please. Please. I really really really mean Please. > You can not possibly tell me that you like reading text with this type What I dislike (that I meet on this list) are 1: posting about top-posting (really) 2: posting the theme of "If you don't like our delivery pace, go use something else". 3: (note the order of the 5 things here) posts in HTML, posts mangled by tool-chains and posts difficult to read because of limited English abilities. I strive (happily) to understand foreign language posters. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Revisor
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 6/7/2011 1:22 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:40:13PM -0300, Deivison Moraes wrote: >>> Hello,I was able togeneratetheiso,butwhen I installreturnserror >>> ¨exec of anaconta failed: No such file or directory¨ >>> >>> Anotherquestion, therevisortakesmy packagesconfiguredasthey were >>> before,asI dothat? >> >> 1) Please stop top-posting on this mailing list. Please stop fretting about top posting. >> 2) Learn to properly use a keyboard, specifically, the space-bar. >> This isn't a question of a language or a culture barrier, nor >> is it one of a bad keyboard as it is evident that your >> space-bar does work to some extent. Trying to read your posts >> on this list is enough to give someone a headache. Please try >> to be considerate of others. > > Heh... It's more of a culture barrier than you think. The > actual source > of the message looked like: class="Apple-converted-space"> class="hps" title="Clique para mostrar > traduções alternativas"> between words. So he did hit > the space bar and someone else's tools undid it. So the second request should be "Please post in plain text, not HTML." Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hard disk install failure
> >> Did you check the debug consoles (alt-Fx)? > > I'm not sure what this is. There are several consoles available during install and boot. If you hit Alt+F1, you'll see the "regular" install/boot text. If you hit Alt+F2, you'll see debug outputs of portions of the install/boot process. Alt+F3 gives you another console from which you can e.g. run various tools (dmesg, ps, df, fsck, etc). John Doe (not his real name) suggested looking at these other consoles to see what had been printed out during install/boot. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Revisor
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > My intention is to build a custom platform CentOS, turned to > the phone so we choseCentOS. actually in the fedora is more likely to > work? CentOS and Scientific Linux are (virtually) identical. Testing on SL6 is effectively testing on CentOS6 before CentOS6 is released. As another poster mentioned, the OS-under-test (whether SL6 or F15) can be a guest-OS if your current platform can be a host-OS. http://www.scientificlinux.org/download/ Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Revisor
> > The stable version of EL6 you say? > My fear is losing two weeks and this new version also does not work > ... > > []`s You can download the DVDs of Scientific Linux 6.0, install, and try it today. Then you will have a clue whether to wait for CentOS 6.0 or whether you must go elsewhere. http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.0/i386/iso/ http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.0/x86_64/iso/ Further data at http://www.scientificlinux.org/download/ Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] hi CentOS
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello CentOS it took a few days before i got the hang of it > http://email.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=emai > l&zu=http://cnbc7.com ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos This is a "Make money at home from the Internet" site. http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2010/12/10/work-at-home-spam-spreads-via -twitter-with-a-little-help-from-tweetmeme/ "Clicking on the link takes you to a website called CNBC7, which poses as a genuine news website but was actually registered from China ..." http://cnbc7.com.hostlogr.com/ This is a Chinese web iste Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: RHEL 6.1 is out
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > James B. Byrne wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 14:15, Scott Silva wrote: >>> on 5/23/2011 11:02 AM Ljubomir Ljubojevic spake the following: >>> Then everybody cough on that and started endless flame-war. >>> I survived the rapture to come back to this? LMAO >>> http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/ >>> >> No! No! This topic IS the RAPTURE. First there will be wars and >> rumours of wars. . . Flamewars and rumors of flamewars... > > That's ok, this isn't the thread you want. Move along, move along > > mark "you can go about your business..." Jedi and their "never mind" tricks. Jeesh. When the 7th seal is opened there will be "silence in heaven for about the space of half an hour" (Rev 8:1), implying that the net will be down world-wide. THAT will cause Armageddon all by itself (Rev 9:16, 16:16). Shortly thereafter an Angel will decree that there will be time no longer (Rev 10:6). THAT will wreck *serious* havoc for all time- or time-card related businesses and laws. Synchronous data streams will be "a thing of the past" (pun intended). Skynet will probably launch on everybody (Rev 13:13), as it can't tell friend from foe, as all tokens are "timed out" (pun intended). Yesiree, before the Great Rapture, we who read this list are all going to be out of work. Who want to try to top me for spiritual silliness? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: RHEL 6.1 is out
> > How about a fundamental change? A completely open development process > like at Fedora? Fedora is not suitable to what CentOS is, for several reasons. 1: Fedora is a bleeding-edge engineering development project, CentOS is a reverse-engineering effort. 2: Fedora is for avid hobbyists, CentOS is for the whole Linux-based computing industry. 3: Fedora has no promise to any company that their product does what is expected, CentOS has one promise: bug-for-bug-identical with RHEL. Fedora is Perpetual Beta, CentOS is never less than "no-surprises" Rock Solid. CentOS does not ever miss a delivery date promise, because it NEVER MAKES any delivery date promise. > CentOS is a great operating system. But many people have lost Count the "many" please. Show where you get the "many", please. "I am called Legion, for we are many". (with apologies to the several thousand devils who were subsequently given leave to enter into several thousand swine, who have yet to complain about CentOS' much-awaited delivery). Posters on this list are "The Few, The Loud, The Marines" (with apologies to any Real Marines who read this list). The "closed, trusted builders" of CentOS are going to stay that way for as long as a "no-surprises" build-target remains a build-target. It's not about "time to release", it's about trust among the builders as to what is built, called CentOS, and released. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: RHEL 6.1 is out
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Thu, 19 May 2011, carlopmart wrote: > >> Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_6_1_Released > > and look at all the anaconda related, and other fixes, that > should have been in a dot zero release ... gee > > -- Russ herrold Which means, that RHEL6.0 should have just now come out today; the release called 6.0 was a teaser and a beta of the release called 6.1 which should have been called 6.0! So when is CentOS6.1 coming out? (I can't help it, I just can't help it). Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
> There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could > be better automated, How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change 'without notice to users'? > in which case it becomes typical software development for programs > that solve the dependencies and find and assemble the requirements. Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't typical. It's MindReading 101. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
> Actually, we really like Dell. The servers that died are four or five > years old, and were only under a now-expired warranty. All > had the same error (E171F PCIE fatal error B0 D3 F0), which indicates a > pci-x error, which is weird. And that all of them failed within a week > suggests, to me, a firmware error, maybe a counter that rolled over, or ran > past the end. > > And I not only got a Dell rep to chat about it, he even opened a case, > knowing they were out of warranty. Maybe it's 'cause we're US > gov't, but > still I'd have done the same: Anything that drops four on the floor at your place can do so elsewhere... And I'd want to know why/how/what dropped those four *before* some in-warranty units proffered the same startling surprise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PnlWHdJGLM You do not want your customers saying things like this about your product line. HP learned its lesson on this one, we should do the same *before* the "Instructive Experience" nails us between the eyes. *hats off to the Dell guy*. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] a hardware question
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > We need to replace several servers, quickly - four of our > Dell PE 1950's > died in one week. (!!!) So, we're looking around, and I was checking > out IBM. I customized to what we want, and hit 'continue', and > suddenly there's another $800 for a "system common planar" that's > "required". Googling only finds specs with it - does anyone know what > it > is? I mean, > it's not like it's the motherboard, right? >From a fast & furious google-fu workout, I conclude that the "System Common Planar" is in fact the motherboard. Look at your configuration options ... Do you see another motherboard item there? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > While this sounds like humorous way to deal with the problem, > what about > all of us silent users who just watch the list for news and generally > ignore the bonus nonsense that makes the list... > > We the silent would miss out on important news... Clearly, this would apply to the POSTING not reading abilities. AND, we would necessarily start out with "adult" posting abilities. What needs development: 1: After some time, if my posts irritate you (or yours me) then we post to the centos-modera...@centos.org address (currently non-existent), with a message subject of KARMA PLUS or KARMA MINUS and a message body of a name; 2: said name has their Karma adjusted accordingly. 3: At some configurable threshold of negative Karma, my (or your) posting rights turn off and we become a moderated poster. 4: If there is no moderator, we're made mute. 5: Every week, the negative Karma scores have +1 added; making the moderated status temporary. 6: No poster can adjust the karma of another poster more than once per week. It ain't a perfect specification, but it'd be an improvement on what we have. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
> Can you take this off-list? I am REALLY tired of reading > non-CentOS stuff. Please keep it here. CentOS vs SL and CentOS vs Ubuntu are as on-topic as anything else. Since TUV stopped supporting my non-PAE processors, I am obliged to find a new home. Ubuntu is one of the options. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS-QA Mailing List
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> Does anybody know why this list is private and password protected? It
> would be nice to see progress, but it appears that part of the
> development is completely locked down and not open source.
For (x = 0; x < REALLY_LARGE_NUMBER; x++)
{
system("echo \"IS IT DONE YET?\"");
system("echo \"WHY ISN'T IT DONE YET?\"");
system("echo \"WHEN WILL IT BE DONE?\"");
}
That's my guess...
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Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6/CentOS
> If you take a look on google for "CentaurHauls i686" you will see that > this CPU/chipset SAYS it fully supports i686 but it really does not. > All of EL6 is i686 and not i586 (which CentaurHauls really > fully supports). > > I think you are going to have issues with this CPU and EL6 forever. > EL5.x should likely be used with this CPU ... It is hoped (by a few posters on this list) that the 6.x centosplus kernel will be 586-aware and 586-compatible. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Drive recovery?
> I have a CentOS 5.6 system (recently installed) that, for some > reason, has decided to mangle one of its drives, specifically > /dev/hde1 > ... No errors anywhere, just rebooted the machine over the > weekend and > it's gone. Up till the reboot, the drive was fine, I was > writing to it > without a problem. mke2fs -n /dev/hde1 should list you the block addresses where copies of the superblock would be found. Set ASB=any one of the alternate blocks listed. Then, try mount -t ext3 -o sb=$ASB /dev/hda2 /mnt Additional reading: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/surviving-a-linux-filesystem-failures.html Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kswapd taking 100% cpu with no swap on system
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ali Ahsan > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:52 PM > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] kswapd taking 100% cpu with no swap on system > > On 05/09/2011 10:46 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > > > > 50GB in 0.12 ms is 500TB in 1.2 second. > > SATA III buses at 6GB/sec need a "parallelness" of (nearly) > > 100 channels to soak up that data. > > How many drives must be written-to in parallel to sustain that write > > rate is ... Beyond my math skills. > > Its only about Cassandra, not about my system :). SO whats your > suggestion about SATA driver ? My suggestion: That (first) you check your facts. What substantiates a claim of a 50GB/.12ms write-rate? What environment? The claim is (AIUI) utterly misleading. That (IMHO) gross over-statement of Cassandra's write capacity makes any study of your current system a pursuit after feral aquatic fowl. I believe you were after an explanation as to why your kswapd was running 100%? Lets stick to that and not drag in Cassandra vs MySQL. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kswapd taking 100% cpu with no swap on system
> > Actually i dont have any issue with read and write,If you > have experience with Cassandra NoSQL database,Its very read > and write intensive.It will approximately doing 10 Million > concurrent read and writes.AS per Cassandra documentation > "Cassandra can write 50GB of data in 0.12 milliseconds, more > than 2,500 times faster than MySQL." 50GB in 0.12 ms is 500TB in 1.2 second. SATA III buses at 6GB/sec need a "parallelness" of (nearly) 100 channels to soak up that data. How many drives must be written-to in parallel to sustain that write rate is ... Beyond my math skills. Advertizing, or inadvertizing, has fudged a few numbers here. *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
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Re: [CentOS] centos friends?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 05/06/2011 10:00 AM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: >> On 6 May 2011 00:04, Karanbir Singh wrote: >>> One of the tasks on the table for this summer is to setup a >>> mechanism to accept financial donations / contributions from >>> people. If you want to contribute towards specific people's efforts >>> - I am sure most of the guys have amazon wish lists etc in place. >> What about mercenary? Desperate to have a CentOS t-shirt here. :) >> > > Come to the CentOS PubCrawl and as long as you can fit into something > from a size Small to a size XXL, I'll make sure you get a > T-Shirt ( and > the beer is sponsored too... ) > > http://centospubcrawl.eventbrite.com/ if you havent seen it already. > That's the WRONG side of the bloody puddle, mate. Do you hobnob with Yankees? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to copy a system?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > At Thu, 05 May 2011 07:44:52 -0400 CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> >> >> On 05/05/2011 07:13 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> Is there a standard way of copying a working system >>> from one machine to another with different partitions? >> You could also utilize cloning software, such as the client version >> of drbl, clonezilla livecd. >> >> You could also do a direct copy with dd onto a connected drive. > > Warning: dd is not a good choise if the source and desination > drives/partitions are *different* sizes. Different block mappings will also give you grief. .:. The drives must be identical manufacturer and model, down to the firmware revision. dd is not a backup tool in the general sense. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Boot speed
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 5/3/11 8:17 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >>> On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Trying to save a few seconds when rebooting a server seems >>>>> pointlessto me >>>> >>>> The Linux kernel is also used in laptops/desktops >>> >>> Fast boots also matter for embedded systems. >> >> +1 >> >> So does booting on small, non-PAE hardware. >> RH wants to drop the embedded world, but the centosplus kernel may >> yet "save us" from ignominy. > > So you save a second in boot time, then waste half an hour trying to > figure out which wire goes to which network interface... Doesn't > sound like a win to me unless you only have one NIC. I got one nic on one single-core non-PAE i586 CPU (GEODE LX800) that roars at 800MHz with 1/4GB ram. I got 1 hard drive with DMA, the other "drive" is a CF socket accessed by PIO. Look up the ETX boards, and consider those with 4 amps max total current. They're used all over the world for process control and special-situation comms systems. It's headless, access is by ssh; it *must* go from power-on to full operation in 90 seconds, it *should* get there in 30. That includes BIOS startup. Once installed, it does NOT change hardware configuration exception hard-drive-swap for application version upgrade every 2-3 years. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] community communication
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: Enough is enough. Can we _please_ consolidate such status updates, the few times they appear, at _one_ location? People should not have to play guessing games as to where status updates may or may not appear, nor should they have to be checking a minimum of 3 sources to locate such information. Having a single location would be a great boon and would allow us to point people to one "official" location when the inevitable questions on releases come up. >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 >> And it's not asking too much that the CentOS team post *here* the >> information for which they KNOW we're waiting with bated breath; >> meaning *here on this list as well as on their many other >> locations*, including forums I don't have access to on a regular >> basis. > > And the people who do not have access to their e-mail want the twitter > updated so they can read it on their cell phones. > > And the people who like forums want that updated. > > etc, etc. > > Look, we have "NO IDEA" when everything is going to be done > on CentOS 6. Not the issue at all here. > We will release CentOS 6 to QA as soon as we get it finished. This is all that's expected. ...along with the update being posted in the expected places... Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Boot speed (was: RHEL 6.1 beta)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> Trying to save a few seconds when rebooting a server seems >>> pointlessto me >> >> The Linux kernel is also used in laptops/desktops > > Fast boots also matter for embedded systems. +1 So does booting on small, non-PAE hardware. RH wants to drop the embedded world, but the centosplus kernel may yet "save us" from ignominy. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] community communication
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, John R. Dennison > wrote: >> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 12:59:03AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: >>> >>> Forum Announcement is yet another place you may want to check: >> >> Forums, mailing lists, twitter feeds... >> >> Enough is enough. >> >> Can we _please_ consolidate such status updates, the few times they >> appear, at _one_ location? People should not have to play guessing >> games as to where status updates may or may not appear, nor should >> they have to be checking a minimum of 3 sources to locate such >> information. >> >> Having a single location would be a great boon and would allow us to >> point people to one "official" location when the inevitable >> questions on releases come up. > > +1 +1 And it's not asking too much that the CentOS team post *here* the information for which they KNOW we're waiting with bated breath; meaning *here on this list as well as on their many other locations*, including forums I don't have access to on a regular basis. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Given the difficulty of getting Centos 6 released - maybe > this is not the > correct group to ask. Just saying. ;) Actually, telling us just how hard and complex and detail-burdened it would be to kick off "BlueSox", a homolog to CentOS rebuilding of "RedHat", might calm down some of the anxiety we've endured this year. I've come to understand that "hard" is not a matter of innovation, it's a matter of enduring 1: highly boring build-inspect-tweak-repeat cycles 2: repeated for a large number of packages. 3: Being so careful with the fine details that businesses world-wide trust your statement "It's Done". Russ Harrold commented on this as a 'nose-to-the-grindstone' labor; I can't comment on how much nose is required. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6/CentOS
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Steve Clark
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody know the reason RedHat decided not to support the
>> VIA Eden Processor?
> (snip)
>> I traced it down to this code, which is not in the standard
>> kernel.org kernel-2.6.32.36: from kernel-2.6.32.36
>> static void __cpuinit early_init_centaur(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c) {
>> switch (c->x86) {
>>
>>
>> from 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.ayplus
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/centaur.c
>>
>> static void __cpuinit early_init_centaur(struct cpuinfo_x86 *c) {
>> mark_hardware_unsupported("Centaur Processor"); <<
>> switch (c->x86) {
>
> Chances are you will not get a definitive answer from the CentOS
> people. So, you'd need to ask those who actually added the code.
> Question is whether this was done by Fedora or by RHEL devs.
>
> Akemi <= note: CentOS person.
Can you not that line and re-compile the kernel?
CentOS puts out a centosplus kernel based on the original plus good ideas.
If that line of code is not central to preventing kernel panics, nop it out and
run with it.
Tell the CeontOSPlus people whether it works.
//me <=== Note: NOT a CentOS person.
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Re: [CentOS] Setting up a GUI remote access
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 4/26/2011 11:25 AM, Todd Cary wrote: >> I would like to be able to access my Linux >> (Centos 5.5) via my Windows notebook >> >> What is the best VNC like application to install or use on the >> Linux server? > > If you just want file access (all you'll get with samba), > winscp might work. +1 winscp Samba not required. PuTTY included. SSH secured. All day every day, here. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] RHEL 6/CentOS
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello, > > Anybody know the reason RedHat decided not to support the > VIA Eden Processor? Possibly ... Does that processor have PAE? The non-PAE kernel was dropped, the current 'normal' kernel requires a PAE-capable processor. > UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE DEVICE: Centaur Processor > [ cut here ] Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] yum update after fresh 5.6 install fails
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi, > I just finished installing a CentOS 5.6 x86_64 system and the first > thing I wanted to do after the install is to apply the > software patches. > > But I get the following error when I try to run 'yum update': > > Package libuser-0.54.7-2.1.el5_5.2.x86_64.rpm is not signed > > and yum update exits without applying any of the patches. yum --skip-broken update Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Heads up: Bugged update xorg-x11-server-utils-7.1-5.el5_6.1 upcoming
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 04/17/2011 03:56 PM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Reading >> > http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=309 > 39&forum=37 I noticed a warning about an upcoming bugged > update xorg-x11-server-utils-7.1-5.el5_6.1 >> >> I would advise everyone to add >> exclude=xorg-x11-server-utils-7.1-5.el5_6.1 >> to their updates repo config. > > this sounds like extremely bad advice. Not as bad, however, as installing the update. To be pedantic, a crashed system is bug-immune. Totally. This is not a preferred tactic, outside the Amish community (which hasn't had a hostile computer security escalation event in 300 years). Security vulnerabilities are not good. Crashed systems (or crashed major components thereof such as GUI) are worse. Don't install the update, wait for one that works without crashing/trashing major system components. SL has such an update, so we've heard here on this list. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] ups advice
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:06 PM, admin lewis > wrote: >> Hi >> I have a Dell PowerEdge T310 *tower* server.. I have to buy an ups by >> apc... anyone could help me giving an hint ? >> a simple "smart ups 1000" could be enough ? UPS and Power Supplies are not all the same. If the UPS has a stepped voltage output (not smooth sine wave like the local public grid has) in large enough steps to mess up the power supply, you wind up with no UPS in effect. CLEARLY if there are enough steps to the stepped output of the UPS (which depends on the UPS brand/model), the PC power supply happily will see it as a sine wave input. How many is "enough" depends on the power supply and the load. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] status of 5.6 updates
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > There has been a steady stream of updates of security issues > for 5.6. > I'm curious about the timeline for these updates from centos...:) You mean, besides "when it's done"? I'm just glad I'm not doing anything business-critical that's exposed to the Great Unwashed with my CentOS machine. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >>> I am sure if you do then you will have a mailing list on which your >>> fanbois can post that they want to give you money. >>> >>> But this list is not for that purpose. >>> >> >> >> Once again an unnecessary personal attack. > > > Nonsense. Yes, fanboi is a denigration, although more at the people who think highly of Dag than of Dag himself. It was unworthy of Johnny. And this thread is all about something that doesn't exist, and nobody is trying to make exist. It's about the web-footed boogeyman in the closet that nobody living at the home ever alleged was there. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] bizarre system slowness
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Running v5 64bit on a Dell 1950. > > A cluster of 3 DB machines, identical hardware. One of them suddenly > became slower 2 weeks ago. > /var/log/messages was full of "ntpd[7313]: frequency error -1707 PPM > exceeds tolerance 500 PPM" messages. Sounds like your CMOS time-keeping chip may be dying. > I'm still kind of hoping it's a software issue, but chances are slim. > OTOH, I can't imagine any hardware problem that would exhibit these > symptoms. > > Any idea what to test? Any RAID setups go into self-repair mode? dd if=/dev/($nextdrive)1 of=/dev/null count=10 (just compare just the read speeds off each spindle) for each disk on each system. ONE drive slower then the other blames the drive or the data thereon (RAID rebuild). ALL drives on the slow system blames the mobo. smartctl -t on each of the disks then smartctl -a Are these system busy serving customers, or can they be opened and drive sets swapped between systems? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 yum update with reference to 5.6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello group, > > I have a CentOS 5.5 server freshly installed. > > When I do a yum updated package_name, I have referenced to 5.6. Why? CentOS *finally* pushed 5.6 out the door, so you can expect any 5.5 system to upgrade to 5.6. Mine did, painlessly. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Radu Gheorghiu wrote: >> On 04/13/2011 07:55 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 04/13/2011 10:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/12/2011 5:40 PM, R P Herrold wrote: > >>> There is no "time limit" that we would go past where I would allow >>> people who I do not know and trust to commit items into the CentOS >>> tree. I have to use this in production and it has to be done >>> correctly. It does not matter how long it takes if it is done >>> right. > >> I don't think that's what we are discussing here about. I think we >> are discussing about making it all open, so that everybody can setup >> a build environment easily and start working on the real issues, not >> working on the build environment itself. >> > > I'll chime in again: is there not a full build environment that can be > checked out of the CentOS version control system? Or an rpm > to install it? > > mark Yum --enablerepos=Centos-Builder install CentOS-Build-Environment No, it seems to me this doesn't yet exist. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > I was really hoping for you to reply with something along the > lines of 'there isnt enough info about the test process' or > 'are there some templates that we can start with' etc. > Those things I can try to do > something about, finding you more time in the day is a bit harder :D I think we all need an extra week in every day. Or, is that an extra day in every week? Naw, I got it right the first time. If compile/test servers are an issue, can we do for CentOS what we do for distributed Prime number/SETI computation serving? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Tru Huynh wrote: >> Same answer for you than I made for Dag, volunteer to coordinate, >> build, write scripts, publish *your* work and you will be helping > your fellows. > > I must be missing something here. If it had been someone I didn't > know, that's one thing, but Dag's been contributing to Linux as a > whole for a lotta years, and his site is a major repository. This is perhaps the most poignant comment. If it were me, wiser you are to listen to frogs and crickets. Dag is saying "I want to help but your system is closed". I believe him more than anybody in CentOS. CentOS folks apparently believe their entire system is open and transparent enough that anybody of Dag's skills and experience could help with no trouble at all. He says differently. The only thing I can point out in CentOS's favor is that they have said a few things about how helpers (can) help; and that this discussion belongs on CentOS-Devel. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > /putting on asbestos pants. Not needed... And they itch. > Perhaps the tack to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider > to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with > CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would > venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS > and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business. I should think to agree; if the CentOS folks are under a non-disclosure to "any entity selling support other than RH", I don't see how this is anything but in RH's best interests. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> >>> The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases. >> >> This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS. > > That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching > some definition of 'timely'. Proved to be so, with great pain for some. To take a relativistic approach, entities (people or corporations) who are uncomfortable with CentOS's notion of "timely" will be less so with RH's notion of "timely", since RHEL defines the product for which we're waiting. RH is the Time(0) of the process. Speed costs money, time costs money and/or patience. You must either shell out the money for RHEL, or you must shell out time for CentOS. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ext4 not on a bootable partition
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Just tried running a configuration on 5.6 with ext4 as the "/" > partitition. I got the error that cannot boot ext4 partition. > bummer I know this is just a boot issue and make the ext3 but I > was disappointed. > > Maybe 6.0 will have ext4 bootable. I installed new (no upgrade) SL6.0, and ext4 was an available selection for all partitions except swap and my existing ntfs drive. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases. This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Luigi Rosa wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!! >> > #insert > > (In addition to the update, NO MORE "WHEN WILL 5.6 COME > OUT?!?!?!?!?!!!" threads!) So when will 6.0 be out? (sorry; yes I am OCD-enabled; no obviously I have no SMARTctl) Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?
>mark, waiting to find out if the Republicans shut down the > gov't, and his paycheck There are as many Democrats as Republicans preventing success. Brian, who doesn't consider yet another bloating of the budget deficit to be a success. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 11:23 -0400, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >>> On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> >>> This sounds as if RH is responsible for not yet released CentOS 6 ? >>> What did I miss ? What changes do you talking about ? >> >> AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches. >> Starting >> 6.0 RH releases patched source. This makes backing out a patch, or >> backporting patches from future development in Fedora (e.g.) far >> more nightmarish than before. >> >> Also AIUI, it appears the (undisclosed) RH build environment changed >> significantly, such that generating bit-for-bit identical binaries (a >> CentOS objective) requires mind-reading RH folks by CentOS folks (aka >> reverse-engineering the undisclosed RH build environment). >> >> These two square wheels make the CentOS wagon a bit slower than >> before. > > I would appreciate an answer to one related question. > > Will CentOS release CentOS 6.0 as a production release? > > I see three possible answers: yes/no/TBD. Answer 4: This is not just an answer of "yes it's a production release" it's "production releases are all that CentOS ever does." Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 7.4.2011 16:58, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> While SL and other distributions are perfectly fine for almost all >> uses, there's a certain irony in the fact the single advantage of >> CentOS is the ease of converting from it to a paid/supported RHEL >> installation, and the RH changes that make the rebuild difficult are >> driving people away. > > This sounds as if RH is responsible for not yet released CentOS 6 ? > What did I miss ? What changes do you talking about ? AIUI: In previous releases, RH distributed source + patches. Starting 6.0 RH releases patched source. This makes backing out a patch, or backporting patches from future development in Fedora (e.g.) far more nightmarish than before. Also AIUI, it appears the (undisclosed) RH build environment changed significantly, such that generating bit-for-bit identical binaries (a CentOS objective) requires mind-reading RH folks by CentOS folks (aka reverse-engineering the undisclosed RH build environment). These two square wheels make the CentOS wagon a bit slower than before. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] why are warning be treated as errors?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to compile RHEL-6 kernel srpm on Fedora 14 and > run into the following problem. From what I read > -Werror flag causes warnings to be treated as errors - but I > don't see that flag on in the following. Any ideas? My guess: gcc4.4.4 had --disable-werror by default, so we must -werror explicitly to get warning treated as errors; gcc4.5.1 does NOT have --disable-werror by default, so, unless you specify --disable-werror on the compile line, warnings are treated like errors. I don't have either compiler version here at work, so I can't verify. ANYHOW, if your 4.5.1 build tree Makefile has CFLAGS with --disable-werrors in it, does the problem go away? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 04/07/2011 03:58 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: >> On 04/07/2011 08:41 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> Please try to maintain some semblance of professionalism when you >>> post to this list. >> This coming from someone who frequently tells people to "SHUT UP" >> and go away and use something else. I guess that's far more >> professional than others trying to open up communications between a >> projects members and the developers. >> > Fully agree. This attitude has lead many companies I know to drop > CentOS in favour of other distros. This project is sure not going in > the right direction. > I know, I'm going to be told to use something else, I know I know, I'm > looking for alternatives. +1 Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 32-bit kernel+XFS+16.xTB filesystem = potentialdisaster
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 6.4.2011 17:27, Warren Young wrote: >> On 4/5/2011 11:24 AM, Brandon Ooi wrote: >>> Afaik 32-bit binaries do run on the 64-bit build and compat >>> libraries exist for most everything. You should evaluate if you >>> really *really* need 32-bit. >> >> Yes, thanks for assuming I don't know what I was talking about when I >> wrote that we had a hard requirement for 32-bit in this application. >> >> Since you seem to care, we're stuck with 32-bit for this particular >> server because it needs to use an uncommon PCI card that does have >> Linux drivers but they only work with 32-bit kernels. Don't scream: I'm using RedHat 7.3 for related reasons. >> Legacy is hard. Next time someone tells you they can't use the >> latest and greatest for some reason, you might take them at their >> word. Worthy note. > Just a shot in the darkbut can't you have a x86_64 NFS > server export a fs larger then 16TB, and mount that on your x86 > machine for use with your application? > > Bgrds, > FOG If a separate server can't be done, can a 64-bit system KVM-host a 32-bit OS to handle just that board and its application? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT Problem seeing slave drives.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > This isn't specifically about cent os, > Anyone have any ideas? http://support.dell.com/ Don't contact Dell with your CentOS questions, nor bring your Dell questions here ... ... You should either drink much more, or much less. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] php53 and pear
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi all > > will there be an "official" php53-pear rpm available through centos.org? > > I'm sorry if this has been answered before but my google-fu seems to > be letting me down. > GoogleTau asserts that CentOS 5.6 and 6.0 will be version-for-version identical to RHEL 5.6 & 6 respectively. Searching for what version of php63-pear is in which version of RHEL shows "Redhat is including php53 in RHEL 5.6" Welcome to the waiting room... The baby is a mutha, and will come out when he damned well pleases. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 3.5 kernel panic on boot
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Yes, I know 3.5 is old. However in this case it's required > for a legacy > app. > > a fresh install get's me: > > kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-104, errno = 2 > The system is an HP DL380 G4. any thought on what could cause this? errno =2 => "No such file or directory" I presume you have working copies of CentOS 3.5, so Compare /etc/modprobe.conf between working and new system Compare /lib/modules/ between working and new system Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Feeding CentOS build results to twitter (was: Centos 6Update?)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Digimer wrote: > >> As an aside, does the CentOS build environment (understanding that it >> needs to be built, too), able to tweet something like "last build; X >> packages OK, Y packages failed"? > > This was done on a trailling basis for a couple side arch's > builders by me and another. It turns out to be a lot of > chatter and 'noise', and not much 'signal' I would venture: It would be more polite and civil chatter than what this thread has put into the CentOS mailing list archives. *cringes at the difficulty that strangers face, wading through our slop looking for helpful tidbits of know-how* Thought for posting guidelines for this list: "If it's not a request for help with a CentOS component, or an answer thereto, it probably doesn't belong on this list" Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic > > Anyway, as I understand it, this list is for bashing the CentOS devs > and not the SL ones! bash, ksh, tcsh, zsh and ash are allowed; bash is not required. dash is forbidden because we don't mention Debby Anne nor her domestic partner Suzy here. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Forcing IPv4 DNS lookups first before IPv6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Thank you, but unfortunately this is a different issue. These boxes do > not run bind, they resolve their DNS queries via dedicated bind > servers on the network. Configuring the bind servers on the network a > different way still would not stop the IPv6 traffic I am showing in > the TCP dump from being sent. Things described in the bug report are Adding NETWORKING_IPV6=yes to /etc/sysconfig/network prevents the queries to root nameservers with IPv6 addresses timing out. And alias net-pf-10 off to /etc/modprobe.conf Have you tried both of them? > On 4/4/2011 11:54 AM, Stephen Harris wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:34:25AM -0500, Russell Jones wrote: >>> [root@hostname1 ~]# tcpdump -v 'port 53' >>> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture >>> size 96 bytes >>> >>> 11:07:24.989304 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 65039, offset 0, flags >>> [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 60) hostname1.59725> >>> vdns1-hc.example.com.domain: [bad udp cksum 2bd2!] 26130+ ? >>> hostname2.example.com. (32) >> >> Check https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=140528 and see if >> that resolves your issue. >> > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Tips for motherboard with multiple PCI / PCI-e slots
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi, > > I need to fit at least three NICs and I was looking for > motherboard models that contain 3 or 4 CPI (or PCI-e) slots and works > with CentOS. You can get 4 etherports on one card... For 17 examples: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010064%20 600013873&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20 How many of those work well with Linux (of whatever variety) I don't know. One board claiming RedHat compatibility with a loadable kernel module is http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-UG-I4.cfm Another article that might give fast, cheap, albeit old answers is http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/hardware/quartet.html Why do you need 3 network interface cards? Would two NICs with 2 etherports each, or 1 4-port card meet your need? > I had a problem in the past with some models that had a bug > and did not work well with linux (ok with windows) so that's > way I am asking this here. Are you building a desktop/personal machine, or a server? Are you picky about power/heat/noise factors of the Mobo? Sorry about your 5 options being narrowed down to 30, but the question asked was really imprecise. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] FLISOL 2011
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello dear friends > Anyone know if in the U.S is going to organize the FLISOL? Especially > in the state of Michigan. Perhaps if Michigan moves south of the border... For those of us who don't know FLISOL from Lysol (which includes me) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLISOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Libre So CentOS should be mentioned at a FLISOL meeting, and should be discussed on FLISOL mailing lists, but FLISOL doesn't merit discussion here (nor does Michigan). Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Controlling the order of /dev/sdX devices?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Nope sir. Assume never the same device twice and no control > over those devices, so UUID is out of the question. UUID is out of the question where I have 3 drives (main and two backup) with "wear leveling" wherein ANY of the drives, put in /dev/sda's position, is the boot drive, the identical backup on /dev/sdb will get backed-up-to on a daily basis, and on a weekly basis the drive in /dev/sdb moves to /dev/sda's connector (becoming the boot drive), '/dev/sda' goes off-site, and the third moves to /dev/sdb's position (and gets backed-up-onto promptly. LABEL also fails here. > Yes, that's why you assign a LABEL to the device :) If the > same hard drive gets used on the same server, but on random > ports every time then the LABEL will still stay the same. I > have a similar setup where I mount about 40-odd USB drives to > a server on a regular basis. They each have their own mount > points in /mnt/usb-hdd/xx and irrespective of which > drive I connect to which USB port, or on which order, they > all get mounted where they're supposed to :) This is excellent where each drive has distinct content. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] ACPI errors during bootup
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > But what could be the cause for throwing this ACPI errors? I've had acpi errors like the ones you list, that went away when I installed SL6.0 Before then I had to boot acpi=off. Your board is not SMP and does not support ACPI. >> following errors were shown up(highlighted in bold & red color) Since my mail reader translated HTML to plain text, I see nothing in bold nor in red. Generally, people on mailing lists prefer plain text to HTML mail. >> Using APIC driver default >> ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP Put 'acpi=off' in the boot line since your hardware has no ACPI. >> 2000:dff0) Detected 1000.103 MHz Celeron processor. >> switching to UP code You don't need an SMP kernel, you have 1 CPU with 1 core only. >> PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device :00:02.0. Please >> try using pci=biosirq. >> PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device :00:03.0. Please >> try using pci=biosirq. There's a suggestion I'd follow: boot line should have acpi=off pci=biosirq Since you're building your own kernel, you can switch off SMP and ACPI. Likely APIC and IO_APIC also. Since you have only 1/2GB RAM, I'd switch off things I wasn't going to use. -- Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Managing users and passwords
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Kevin - > > When the time comes, I may need help in creating the command that > excludes the entries in owner, group, password and shadow tables for > "system" entries. > > Todd For starters, copy over the 5.4 files verbatim, and edit the home directory entries so /home/foo (or whatever they were under 5.4) becomes /mnt/5.4/home/foo (or however they'll be seen from the 5.5 system). This will be the value of $HOME and '~' for each user. People who have used absolute pathnames to their home directory (instead of $HOME or '~') have to fix their scripts. As you find time, 5.4 /home directories can be moved to 5.5, and the password file updated to change /mnt/5.4/home/foo becomes /home/foo again. The above blather assumes SELinux is not 'enforcing'. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How does Linux Repair actually work
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > I was hesitant to congratulate myself on restoring /boot and > /boot/grub *if* linux-rescue had done it. So, with the help of > this forum I did get things back in order other than updating the > MBR, and that was done by linux-rescue. > > Onward...and again, thank you. > > Todd > > P.S. I would download SL6 if it was not for the fact that I live > out here with cows as my pets, so downloading is an all day > affair...I have the 7 disks in hand. You're telling me that NONE of your cows have DSL? *udder shudder* I suppose the Library that *does* have DSL doesn't have DVD burning capabilities for copyright reasons. Is there a school thereabouts whose CompSci personnel would understand (and facilitate) burning two SL6 DVDs? >> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >>> Thanks to the help of folks on this forum, I now have my >>> Centos 4 box up and working. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How does Linux Repair actually work
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Thanks to the help of folks on this forum, I now have my > Centos 4 box up and working, however I do have a question on > how the repair actually worked. > > After starting the Linux Repair, the process "found my > installed Linux". Some of you will remember that I had > accidentally erased the /boot and /boot/grub directories, but > I had most of the files saved (not the symbolic links) and > put them back into the directories *and* I did run a rpm reinstall. The boot partition was still there, and its files in its trash directory, or the entire boot directory was in the '/' trash along with all the contents thereof. Putting the files (or dir and files) back was what you did by hand. > > When Linux Repair "found the installed Linux", did it create > a new /boot and /boot/grub *or* did it just use what I had put there? I understood that you understood that you were de-trashing your old boot directory contents, yes? > [I am now downloading Centos 5.5 which I'll install on a new > drive and then face the challenges of moving my backup data > to the new OS] > > Todd Grab SL6 (two DVDs) and make 1 install instead of 1 install and 1 or 2 upgrades. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EXT4 Filesystem Mount Failed (bad geometry: blockcount)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Balaji > wrote: > Dear All, > > Currently using RHEL6 Linux and Kernel Version is > 2.6.32-71.el6.i686 and DRBD Version is 8.3.10 > > DRBD is build from source and Configured DRBD with 2 > Finally found that drbd0, drbd1 mount failed problem > > Found some error messages in "dmesg" > > block drbd0: role( Secondary -> Primary ) > block drbd1: role( Secondary -> Primary ) > EXT4-fs (drbd0): bad geometry: block count 5242880 > exceeds size of device (5242711 blocks) > EXT4-fs (drbd1): bad geometry: block count 2621440 > exceeds size of device (2621351 blocks) > The same as working in ext3 filesystem and its not > working in ext4 filesystem. > > > I would take this to the drbd list. > > -Ross Since it works with ext3, and drdb isn't complaining, EXT4 is (disregard my previous NTFS blather) this seems to be an ext4 problem. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EXT4 Filesystem Mount Failed (bad geometry: blockcount)
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 03/23/11 3:05 AM, Balaji wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Currently using RHEL6 Linux and Kernel Version is > 2.6.32-71.el6.i686 and DRBD Version is 8.3.10 We're pretty much unable to help because yours is a RHEL6 system, we're stuck at RHEL5.5 until our team gets RHEL6 == CentOS6 out the door. So, we'd LOVE to be able to help! Honest! We just can't. Did you do a clean install of RHEL6, or did you instead upgrade from RHEL5.5 or 5.6? If the latter, if you're somehow using the previous version NTFS tools, that might cause your current problem. >> >> I don't know what is the problem and Can some one throw light on >> this peculiar problem >> >> Please replay me ASAP. > > the problem is, thats a RED HAT system, not a CENTOS system. Try Red > Hat Support. That was a perfect example of the "go away" answers I've seen on this list too many times. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6are causing EPEL incompatibilities
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On 3/22/11 7:38 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto >> production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing >> like RHEL. >> >> So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using >> SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. >> > > But if the underlying issue is that Red Hat is intentionally making > the rebuilds difficult, any derivative is going to be fragile. RH fired at Novell and Oracle, but CentOS and SL are hit by the muzzle blast. I wonder if RH is aware that we're pretty consistent advertizing for RH. Is there another UV we can call TUV? I don't suppose RH would care if we (CentOS & SL) both disappeared. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Duplicate Mails
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi, > > There were still several hundreds of duplicate mails awaiting delivery > to this list. It's an automated enhancement for our weekly re-hashing of why Centos 5.6 is late. > The user reinjecting the mails has been identified and > shot^Wbanned from > the mailing list, he cannot resubscribe. Wow ... Killfiles that really kill! Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] syslog.conf - how to redirect messages by a program name?
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hello, > > the "man syslog.conf" explains how to filter syslog messages > > But how could I redirect messages by a program name, like > "drupal" or "php"? I would like them to go under /var/log/drupal This 1-liner script needs fired off at system boot. tail --follow=name --retry /var/log/messages | grep drupal: > /var/log/drupal The grep patters might be expanded -E "(drupal|php)" Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] modprobe :: not finding existing .ko
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > Hi! I try to load an module that it is found in curent > /lib/modules/`uname -r` tree ... > root@sevcenco: ~ # ls -l /lib/modules/`uname > -r`/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-* > -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 14296 Mar 16 19:37 > /lib/modules/2.6.38-0.el5.elrepo/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-aes.ko > -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 10808 Mar 16 19:37 > /lib/modules/2.6.38-0.el5.elrepo/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko > > but if i try : > root@sevcenco: ~ # modprobe -v padlock-aes.ko > FATAL: Module padlock_aes.ko not found. > > notice the change from - to _ > Any idea about this? > or more abstract: > have anyone succeed to use padlock (via) hardware with openssl (or > other software) in centos? > > Thanks, > Adrian Thought: Link your padlock-aes.ko to also exist as padlock_aes.ko Does modprobe now find the files? Are there aliases in modprobe.conf that (in effect) map - to _ in module names? Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] respawning apache on centos
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > One site hosted, running drupal 7, 1.5G RAM lots of disk > spece, two cores, Xeon based host. > I don't know if this is an apache issue or > CentOS related or > what. My first recommendation: You could double (or quadruple) that RAM far cheaper than talking about it. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Server locking up everyday around 3:30 AM
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > What makes no sense to me is this runs every 5 minutes all day, but > only around 3:30 AM does it look up. > > http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4515 sounds like what I have going > on, but not with kjournald of course... > > Thanks, Can you skip the runs from 3 to 4 AM (or 3:15 to 3:45)? It might be what the target of wget is doing on *their* end that makes your access fatal to your machine. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Server hangs on CentOS 5.5
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: >> Your board does not support DDR2. (url for MSI KT3 Ultra) >> "Support 2.5v DDR200/266/333 DDR SDRAM DIMM > > The OP says this: > >> House-built, Gigabyte MB, AMD Phenom II X6, 6Gb RAM. > > Somehow, info has gotten crossed... Possibility... Please excuse... Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Server hangs on CentOS 5.5
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Michael Eager > wrote: >> Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: >> >>> If the issue is repeated but rare system failures on one of a set of >>> similarly configured hosts, I'd RMA the box and get a replacement. >>> End of story. >> >> I'll repeat: this is a house-made system. There's no vendor to RMA >> to. > > I don't know where you are, His signature list CA/USA. > but in our country we can RMA anything and > everything. Apart from CPU's. So, even a cheap desktop mobo could be > RMA'd, as long as I can prove to the suppliers it's faulty, and it's > within the warrenty period Here in the USA we can RMA stuff if we can show it is dysfunctional. Michael's position is that he has no evidence of a dysfunctional part, which could be RMA'd. He has evidence of a dysfunctional gestalt, comprising hardware, software, environment, and data stream. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
