Re: [CentOS] What CentOS means?

2011-12-12 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:11 AM, John Broome  wrote:

> You might also be interested in the etymology of the word 'FAQ'.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faq

Not really!
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Re: [CentOS] What CentOS means?

2011-12-12 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Hakan Koseoglu  wrote:

> And you missed the first paragraph where it is explained?

No man, I didn't miss it, thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] What CentOS means?

2011-12-12 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Hakan Koseoglu  wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS

Oh I read this.
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Re: [CentOS] What CentOS means?

2011-12-12 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Bent Terp  wrote:

> Community ENTerprise OS

>> I was thinking from where the word 'centos' came and what it means?
>> How they choose this word?

Oh Thanks.
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[CentOS] What CentOS means?

2011-12-12 Thread LinuxIsOne 
Hi,

I was thinking from where the word 'centos' came and what it means?
How they choose this word?
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-30 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

I am accustomed to give precise answers and directions and expect people
> not to stray one bit so I can
> follow you in my mind (professional deformation and defense system),  so
> as long as you follow what I suggest I will help you land on the moon.
>

I am lucky then if you could do this, I would definitely follow your good
advices. I hope to get more from you. I am happy that you are having such
a  nice experience.

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

I might *seam* hostile, I am certainly strongly opinionated,  but in
> general I avoid attacking people, and will help any way I can. I am 10+
> years in professional IT support, and I am accustomed to give precise
> answers and directions and expect people not to stray one bit so I can
> follow you in my mind (professional deformation and defense system),  so
> as long as you follow what I suggest I will help you land on the moon.
> If you do not follow them, I will chuck you like an old shoe.
>

 That is a great thing that you are having 10+ years of experience, great.
And yes you perfectly seem hostile (with this email too). Your answers
might be precise and directions could also be good but way of handling
newbies is something poor, however, this point I am chucking (like an old
shoe). Though there are numerous people who have more than 15+ years of
experience and I have never seen them (or anyone of them) talking like this
but still have seen them landing people and newbies on moon. Moreover,
while your suggestions could be (I don't know much about Linux till now)
good but following them requires you too to be gentle in words, be
respectful to everyone [even to newbies, they too are persons, ;)- ], and
in return you would get respect. I always respect everyone and I know more
than 100+ people (having experiences 15+ years in information technology)
and I always pay them respect, but simultaneously I talk politely to any
newbie of any field, and it doesn’t harm me ever.

Regards,
LIO
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

Right now, there are 50-80 mails per day on this mail list alone,
> without interactive one-sentence mails in 2-3 people conversation.
>
> And there are 1000+ receivers of mail from mailing list (1+ million of
> installations ), not interested in your problems. For them, reading
> interactive mail is FUD, unnecessary junk wasting their time. Imagine
> communication for just 10 beginners asking/posting 20-30 mails (with
> replies of others).
>

Oh I really didn't know this, great!


> So please respect them


Sure and why not, I always give respect but I anticipate the same for
newbies too, I hope you too would do that. ;)


> and use IRC/Forums for "trivial" support, and use
> this mailing list for more heavier questions and discussions (not
> producing high mail volume).
>

Sure.
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:

For interactive feedback of this nature, you should consider using the
> irc channel - that tends to be a lot more tailored to such conversations.
>

I may be old fashioned, but I've never use the IRC stuff. I prefer emails,
but yes I came to know that it should be non-interactive if it is a CentOS
mailing list.

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:

The point was that mailing lists are not the best place to have such
> interactive conversations - try to use IRC instead, where you can
> actually chat with people in real'ish time and discuss issues etc.
>
> So you should now go away and do a few things : read about what IRC is,
> read the page that explains about the centos channels ( Ljubomir's email
> had that link ). And do those things before you reply to this email.
>

Okay. So mailing lists are for non-interactive conversations okk...and for
knowledge only...

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:10 AM, LinuxIsOne  wrote:

Oh thanks for the information but since you replied here so I thought, you
> must be knowing, but, as you say, you don't know, so not problem, I just
> download first Live DVD (since already started and also it would give me an
> idea if compatible or not) and then later see the other case. Any other
> knowledgeable person could tell here itself...
>

The meaning of saying so was only this that I didn't know what to
download..., that's all. I guess you would not take it personally (if have
taken...). Well I am absolutely new in the world of Linux, so it became
typical for me.

Rest all, you guys know...
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic 
wrote:

> IRC chating for CentOS:
> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8

??
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:

For interactive feedback of this nature, you should consider using the
> irc channel - that tends to be a lot more tailored to such conversations.
>

Hi,

Didn't get ...? That was I confused in downloadingin LIVE and
bin-DVD...!

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

i am taking into account your lack of knowledge. IF LiveDVD lacks some
> of the packages installed by default from installation DVD, then you
> will not know which those packages are. That was the whole point of my
> suggestion to go with regular installation DVD. I haven't got around to
> testing LiveDVD so I do not have the answer.
>
> If you have time to risk it (play/learn) then by all means install from
> LiveDVD. It is not wrong, just might be the longer/harder way of
> reaching the same goal. And it may not be harder at all. Your
> choice/preference.
>
> http://www.centos.org has links to Wiki and Forums, and this mailing
> list is available also, so you can investigate/learn/ask.


Oh thanks for the information but since you replied here so I thought, you
must be knowing, but, as you say, you don't know, so not problem, I just
download first Live DVD (since already started and also it would give me an
idea if compatible or not) and then later see the other case. Any other
knowledgeable person could tell here itself...

Thanks..
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Markku Kolkka
wrote:

CentOS hasn't published a Deployment Guide for version 6. The
> package management software hasn't changed significantly from
> version 5. You can see the docs for RHEL6 but you need to figure
> out which parts don't apply to CentOS.
>

Oh I see.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:


> My advice is to download LiveDVD for testing porposes, but regular DVD
> for installation. That way you will not miss out on anything from
> regular installation (in case LiveDVD is missing anything).
>

But since if I download the Live DVD, and cannot I install from it itself?
(If) anything is missing, it could be installed from internet later..., is
this possible or do I need to consume back the bandwidth for downloading
non-LIVE image also?


> CentOS after installation is exactly what RHEL/upstream distributes, so
> there can/will be missing nVidia/ATI and possibly some other drivers.
> Those can be found in third party repositories
> (http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories) so do not
> worry about it, you will be able to set up your PC with all the drivers,
> with little meddling.
>

Oh yes, sure, thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Markku Kolkka
wrote:

If you install from LiveDVD, you will get exactly the same things
> that are available on the Live system before installation. You
> can use the normal CentOS software management tools after
> installation to add packages form software repositories on the
> Internet.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/pt-pkg-management.html
>  http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories
>

Okay, but I am downloading Cent OS version 6 and you have provided me the
link for 5, should I go for CentOS version 5, if it with more people so
that people can support way better than 6?

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

Rajagopal was Totally INCORECT. He did not pay enough attention and made
> a mistake.
>
> You asked about difference between DVD and LiveDVD torrents, not between
> DVD1 and DVD2.
>
> Correct answer:
> - LiveDVD is meant for testing purposes, and it *should* have
> possibility to install system on the hard disk. It can be also used to
> access dead system for repairs or data salvage.
>
> - Regular DVD is for default installation media, consisting of 2 DVD's.
> In default configuration only DVD1 is needed.
>

oh thanks for this explanation. Yes I wanted to know this one only. and
bin-DVD torrent, I guess contains both the DVDs (which separately are
written as DVD1 and DVD2). Okk..but I have to download the LIVE one since I
have to check also(if it gets adapted or not...) Said that, but I don't
know if LIVE DVD is one only or two (but on the website its one, at
http://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/ and may be after
installation of one DVD it might be downloading things from the net..which
are left aside for which bib-DVD has two parts)

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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:

Then I should download:

CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso

since I would first check if it suits the hardware and then from the same
DVD (on which I copy the image after downloading, of the above) I would
install, would it be complete then? Complete in the sense that, it would
have all the things...(since we are downloading the DVD, it should
have...)...??

Thanks Rob for the explicit clarification.
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Re: [CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan <
raju.rajs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings,
>

hi, thanks.


> Well, you need to download both to complete the installation for
> multiple languages; especially Indian languages.
>
> I don't know about other languages (like cantonese, armenian or croatian).
>

I am also for Indian languages but which both are you telling? These
both---
CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent

and 
CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveCD.torrent
or something else..? What's the difference but...?
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[CentOS] hello

2011-11-29 Thread LinuxIsOne 
Hello,

I am a Windows convert basically, but as a newbie, thinking of stability
and a virus free OS, and the features like that of a server, I have come
here.

Well said that I am absolutely new, I would know the things in the course
of time, since it is different from my daily job...

Can one please let me know about the difference between the two DVD
torrents:

CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrentand
CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveCD.torrent(which
I found at
http://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/)

Which one I have to download and install? Further at the same page (i.e.,
at http://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/), there are two more
options of DVD1 and DVD2, so are these two more I have to download?

Also for what purpose we have 'minimal' and 'netinstall'?

Thanks and Regards.
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