Re: [CentOS] A request from the CentOS Project
> > As I recall you weren't necessarily nice to anyone who suggested the > process of building CentOS wasn't perfect. But now that it is, I > guess that doesn't matter. > > -- >Les Mikesell please dont recall Les... let it go your memory is poor. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] centos4 and rhel4 upstream effective eol
what exactly is the planned day and time that centos4 will be moved removed from working "yum update" & current mirrored functionality ?? march 1st or a day or two later please? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] This doesn't make sense
craig this is your second troll in two posts. stop trolling we are glad for your past life when centos rescued you from whatever. plus, your past and current usage of centos, migrations to another distro, and opinions are duly noted "again". like for the hundredth time another time will not be necessary please contribute towards the future of CentOS, or move on. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] This doesn't make sense
> > Just want to remind everyone that this isn't a social chatter > list, or a LUG free for all. Lets try and actually be > productive and lets try to help people in a tangible manner. > If you don't have anything relevant to say or contribute to a > conversation, its perfectly fine to not say anything at all. > > - KB KB, we know. please do something about the S/N ratio - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] centos product specification
> what a crock -- go cry elsewhere, troll > > I suppose I'll have to take up mailing list moderation issues > again -- The person I needed to talk with is already away for > the weekend, however. Fortunately we have already covered > the topic of addressing your spam and have consensus as to > how to proceed > > It is _so_ much more useful and rewarding to be a > kindergarten playground monitor, than to do that pesky > business of bug testing and package building ... not > > -- Russ herrold Russ!!! too bad there isnt an online way to give money to CentOS project... ill bet you would take in a boatload of money re: donations to censor and/or kick "a.l. paul" off the lists - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] distro pkg update messages only email lists or website too?
greetings are distro pkg update messages only email lists or website too? i see that CentOS 5 kernel stuff is pushed 2x in past coupla days and just wanna make sure what differences are... or was it just a move from CR to mainline difference and upgrading same things again? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] persistent custom lines in /etc/hosts?
> > I've edited /etc/hosts to add few custom IP/hostnames couples. > After each reboot, I have to add them again. I've then added > /etc/sysconfig/network/hosts, but it seems to ignore it or at > least ignore 127.0.0.1 assignments I'm doing in it. > > Is there a mechanism I'm not aware of, or doing things wrong > to make my custom IP/hostnames assignments permanent after > network services restart? snip > wwp you didnt tell us much about your centos version etc so is your networking set up statically, or is it dhcp dynamic. if the latter, then "possibly" that is part of the issue ive always noticed that files like /etc/resolv.conf and others can change in a generic dhcp environment ...one reason we setup almost everything statically - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Migration Assistance
brian, there are many solutions if you like ssh and rsync etc, then... taking this solution and modify it a little and it works great http://www.jms1.net/code/rsync-backup.shtml one, you can backup the machine(s) to another system with large space two, once machine(s) backed up, then you can mod the script to do proper excludes and then rsync the remote 5.6 to the local 5.6 again, proper use of excludes in the script is necessary and then when getting ready to do final pull, you have to modify the local space to write to so it doesnt go into a backup directory, but to where it need to go on the new server - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 + XEN problem
> > Can we discontinue this and return to tranquillity please ? > > Paul. > Paul, with all humility & due respect, if I was given authority within CentOS and on this list, you would be one of the first we would discipline... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: help with email list reading programs w/ best features to read the centos and other lists that can filter people etc
> > But filters tend to be stupid as well. And once you are involved in > a conversation you should have a certain responsibility to > follow it to the bitter end. Filters mostly don't understand > that (but gmail will push a reply to your own message into > the 'important' view). > i hear ya Les thing is, the term plonk from a most recent post reminded me what i am looking for, ie killfile ...i just have to figure out how to best implement. now, please dont get me wrong, ive made a mistake or three on lists, yet gave apology. i am suprised that more folks havent spoken up about favorite "threaded email readers" or has everyone just gone to Thunderbird or other similar? reason: some say changing subject or hijacking messes things up... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: help with email list reading programs w/ best features to read the centos and other lists that can filter people etc
Christopher, > > It's not an email program but I think it has the best > filtering capabilities of all - the brain. > umm, yeah, exactly, i want to use my brain to program certain peoples posts from never reaching my eyeballs arent they called threaded email readers? i really didnt find much on the www yet maybe i should have been looking for old style nntp type readers? maybe that is what i need to check into > > Huh? What signal/noise ratio? I don't see any of the usual > "can't be bother to read manuals/to use google" > suspects...unless you're complaining about our most recent > top poster... > obviously signal/noise is always relevant and your tolerance is different than ours. sometimes people on the list just get beligerant, drunk, and/or stupid and need to be filtered. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] OT: help with email list reading programs w/ best features to read the centos and other lists that can filter people etc
we need to filter out various peoples posts on this list would some kind soul(s) please direct us in locating the best email list reading programs w/ the best features to read the centos and other lists. the CentOS list signal/noise ratio is so bad that we need something better than just outlook like clients or whatever appropriate windows and linux recommendations would be most appreciated thank you in advance - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Problem with net-install
john you can inexpensively purchase proper slim dvd drives for proliant servers we have done so for G3. G4 is essentially same - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] EL4 and spamassassin info
greetings, have been google foo for week or so. used to be super easy to upgrade spamassassin on CentOS dist. just grab the tarball and put in right spot and rpmbuild -tb spamassassin-3.somethingsomething.tar.gz then rpm or yum install and done would take just a few minutes. Yet... in regards to EL4 / CentOS 4 and spamassassin, it appears the end of the road for .spec in SA tarball evidentally some admins had a hard time doing the above for some perl issues. we havent had urgent need to upgrade one of our legacy mail servers that is still on 4. that will change of course with Centos6 out now. this is, did anyone roll a spamassassin 3.3.2 for CentOS4 / EL4 yet? tips or share rpms please? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:37 AM > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS? > > On 7/7/2011 9:24 AM, R - elists wrote: > > > >> A minor detail - I think you *must* have autoneg set first - it > >> applies them one after the other, in my experience. > >> > >> ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg off speed 100 duplex full" > >> > >> mark > >> > > > > in this case though, it is gigE so dont use 100 > > > > it was used cause cisco typically should be hard set for speed and > > duplex so you never have to guess or worry > > Errr, perhaps you mean because old cisco stuff didn't > negotiate reliably? You always have to worry when you have > hard set options because it won't work when someone changes > the equipment at the other end. > > -- >Les Mikesell exactly, this is in the datacenters though, so we didnt care... we always hard set old cisco gear and whatever is connected to it for "our" internal needs... for clients, some like auto, mainly cause they are using a BSD flavor or whatever equipment or dont care - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?
> A minor detail - I think you *must* have autoneg set first - > it applies them one after the other, in my experience. > > ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg off speed 100 duplex full" > > mark > in this case though, it is gigE so dont use 100 it was used cause cisco typically should be hard set for speed and duplex so you never have to guess or worry realistically speed auto duplex auto gigE is supposed to be smarter rudi, you can play with ethtool without having stuff in the ifcfg file it isnt absolutely necessary to have that stuff in an ifcfg- interface file those things in the line above are for "boot time" or when up'n the interface and wanting it always the same - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how to enable Flow Control on CentOS?
rudi when migrating some rackmount HP servers running Centos4 from hard coded 100 meg fdx to auto gigE that we had to 1) remove this from our ifcfg-ethX files ETHTOOL_OPTS="speed 100 duplex full autoneg off" 2) proper CAT6 wiring 3) plug into the copper gigE switchport 4) reboot using Cisco though... did not find a decent plug n play solution i.e., did not waste a lot of time looking for solutions other than the obvious cisco and centos config or network down and up interface commands - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp & /var/ partition
> Do note that the server-grade SSDs are far more reliable than > the consumer-grade crap. > > mark > mark, what specific units are considered server grade ssd's ? have you bought and used them with CentOS? other opsys ? where are you sourcing and what are you paying? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: RHEL 6.1 is out
Les wrote: > Everyone expected this from Red Hat before the 'EL' versions > when publishing a free CD of community work was the way QA > was done. (And if you've forgotten, go dig through some > changelogs of that era to see just how bad things were and > how much we gained from that process). But wasn't closing > the process and letting 'experts' do that before shipping > supposed to have improved things? > not really sure what you are saying Les... what are you saying? are you talking about Red Hat internal processes ? it is a very profitable publically traded corporate structure with employees and products... what dont you understand about that? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: RHEL 6.1 is out
no, the saying is... if it aint broken, dont fix it ! especially on weekends, monday, or friday ;-> that is why everyone should have a small or large lab for testing and rollout... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
Dag wrote: > Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years > to the Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that > Whitebox had a list of issues of its own, no timely updates, > no community effort, lack of good communication. It was > mostly a one-man-effort. bummer to see you go Dag... yet as you know, everything has issues... if one mainly looks for "or" at things in a negative perspective, you will always find more of same... yet believe it or not, if you look for the good, and count your blessings based on it, the count of such will never end... some are ungrateful, yes... but for the most part they are sinfully ignorant & think way too highly of themselves what is truly, seriously ironic is that the ignorant / ungrateful crowd gets a chance to come out of the woodwork... you know the ones... they havent done whatever is necessary to (in major way) help centos as a whole and/or do any core centos work during CentOSs' lifetime (7 years ???) while the core centos heros carry the majority of the load the whole time. then when the proverbial doody hits the fan and the centos heros (as always) roll up sleeves & multiple distro works are progressing at a variable rate the ignorant act like they have all the answers and can help the centos heros, YET the ignorant never actually roll up their sleves and do anything to help. mainly lots of crying and peeping like helpless baby birds waiting for food. i may not be 100% correct, yet one thing i have picked up on over the years in relationship to volunteering for CentOS is that the centos heros do not have time to BABY and SPOON FEED new recruits. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] So sorry! was: Re: EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux)
we do not need post by post moderation so to speak we need several lists... two of which are babies / horses behind list adult list when you prove your "centos helpfulness & community worth" on the babies list, you get to be in the adult list this would seem easier to admin... i would actually consider being *one* of the admins in an implementation like that... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] community communication
> > There is a plan, of sorts. I wanted to make sure the QA guys > had a few days to mull it over before making it public. And > then there was the rather nice and long holiday weekends here > in the UK. 10th is the first target, with a release couple of > weeks later. We have a potential release date to work against > from there on. > > - KB yeah yeah... we saw ya on the tele having pints and checking out Pippa... ;-) - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?
call redhat legal and/or please take this up with your own "paul" legal counsel this is not the place - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?
> > How would they be different from Oracle if they did that as a > business? > > -- >Les Mikesell Well Les, i dont know. bringing in Oracle to the equation needlessly complicates this thread although i get some parallels for thinking purposes only. the project and that company are "not equal" my fault, i apologize, i should have started a new thread about financial donation status and fair compensation for the CentOS team as i wasnt overly concerned about the due dates. yet, obviously if there were paid full and part time CentOS staff, it could/might change internal scheduling some. again, my fault for not thinking about the subject on the subject line when i posted. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?
Eero, that is great, as long as you consider and actually donate to CentOS regularly statistically, most people that download or use CentOS, do not donate. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?
the "we" that we speak of is "our" organization, *not* of or for CentOS and it's assigns we believe that CentOS could do more and that (humble opinion) the CentOS team should be financially compensated fairly for their efforts on all of our behalf... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?
> > I never ask, and never complain, since I don't feel this > totally free product owes me anything... As a matter of fact, > we owe the project... Scott, yes, we all owe the CentOS project in some way... thing is, IDFR if we have ever been fully updated on the Open Letter problem(s) with the project... im all for seeing the CentOS team get paychecks etc... yet, a cash donations portal has not been an available option for a long looogg time... professionally, we desire to see a small fee subscription model for support of all the people/project overhead... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] SSH AllowUser WildCard
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Cox > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 9:37 PM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] SSH AllowUser WildCard > > It didnt work. > > Here is the logs: > > Feb 7 18:17:25 server sshd[3537]: reverse mapping checking > getaddrinfo for AA-xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx..host.com failed - > POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! > Feb 7 18:17:25 server sshd[3537]: User root from > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers > > But my AllowedUsers has an root@*host.com > > Stephen > Stephen, look at your previous posts / examples you mention bob logging in from different remote addresses... n ot "root" bob is not equal to root in system account on security terms ;-> the security logs are telling you that root cannot login from remote per config and is not an allowed user. root will never be able to login unless you allow root logins. enable bob login and go back to "bob" scenario eh? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Let's talk about compression rates
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org > [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of S Mathias > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:45 AM > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: [CentOS] Let's talk about compression rates Would someone please unsubscribe and BAN this person please ? the person is spamming many lists with same generic questions you can google for that like i did if you need to... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 installation memory requirements
please stop wasting your precious time break out your wallet, blow the dust out, and spend a few bucks on some RAM it is TOTALLY inexpensive and you can add some quality years to your life than to spend it in such painful and worrisome turmoil ;-> > I TOTALLY do not get your point. > > If you want the advanced Disk Druid features to work with LVM > partitions, it seems you need the GUI version. That is pretty > much the driver for me in many of my installs. > > I SUPPOSE I can start playing with kickstart to either create > the partitions as I want (tried that some years ago and > always messed up something), or play with kickstart so it > will start X11 even though there is on 480Mb of memory. > > For servers, after the install, I set inittab to 3 and if I > need a GUI to manage the server, I use VNC over SSH so I like > to have gnome there for the couple times a year I use it (via VNC). > > And my desktops that run FC or Centos have NO games on them. > These are work systems. Even the family computers (XP or FC) > do not have any games. If the kids want games they go over to > their friends and play outside or with game boards where they > have real interaction. > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] heads up - on latest rpmforge perl-NetAddr-IP update and spamassassin 3.3.1 conflict on Centos4
heads up and fyi folks... CentOS 4 latest... SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 running on Perl version 5.8.8 :-) i noticed on a centos 4 box after doing a manual yum update and getting 2 updated perl packages from rpmforge again, just a heads up as rpmforge has been rock solid for us for years so we are no bashing spamassassin would not restart after the updates spamd: Oct 27 22:32:01.340 [27493] warn: netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included spamd: Oct 27 22:32:01.340 [27493] error: spamd: aborting due to add_cidr error spamd: spamd: aborting due to add_cidr error spamassassin: spamd startup failed of course, there was no such network include in the local.cf file as it is default... the fix for me was to # grep perl-NetAddr-IP /var/log/yum.log Jul 29 23:40:44 Updated: perl-NetAddr-IP.i386 4.027-1.el4.rf Sep 30 18:29:27 Updated: perl-NetAddr-IP.i386 4.032-1.el4.rf Oct 03 10:00:09 Updated: perl-NetAddr-IP.i386 4.033-1.el4.rf Oct 27 21:46:26 Updated: perl-NetAddr-IP.i386 4.034-1.el4.rf Oct 27 22:44:47 Installed: perl-NetAddr-IP.i386 4.033-1.el4.rf wget http://packages.sw.be/perl-NetAddr-IP/perl-NetAddr-IP-4.033-1.el4.rf.i386.rp m rpm -e --nodeps perl-NetAddr-IP yum localinstall perl-NetAddr-IP-4.033-1.el4.rf.i386.rpm service spamassassin restart again, just a heads up... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] how long to reboot server ?
> > we have CENTOS 5 on DELL servers. some servers have longer > than one year did not reboot. Our consultant suggest we need > at least reboot once every year to clean out memory junk. > > What is your opinion? > maybe i missed it yet, did anyone mention the old adage... "if it isn't broke, don't fix it?" that would seem to apply in many scenarios... certain exceptions noted of course, yet any good linux admin should be on very close to change logs etc anyways... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
no, i probably would join your list because it might be straight up doody. right? eh? ;-) open source doesnt mean free tech support to triple portion idiot morons on an email list present company excluded, of course ;-) - rh > > Ahh ok so you want mind paying a fee to join my list and > everybody elses? > > You had hell got to be crazy. Is not Open Source to be free? > > > John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
well taken i think centos should make manatory donation for support list or a few of their lists... revenue will do centos project/people good. then moderate - rh > > The simple answer is moderation. If, say, 3, or 5 regular > posters complain about someone, they get a canned warning > message; the luser does it a second time, they get dropped > from the list. They rejoin, and do it again, they get dropped > and banned for at least six months. > > mark > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
huh? it was sincere we are on your side bunky... :-) insert foot in backside;-) lighten up homes - rh > > Come on, did he need ? > > #insert "old_guard.h" > > mark > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
the point is enforcement somehow... why not require a small yearly donation for access to the list ??? 12 bucks a year? or more ? donations cannot be taken back yet lusers can be moderated or terminated and to come back, they donate again - rh > But what's the point? When you give away good, free stuff, > people are naturally going to ask for more. The part I have > trouble understanding is that while it seems perfectly > acceptable to be dumb about most coding languages and ask for > a canned routine to do something you are too lazy to write > for yourself, the same does not apply to shell commands even > though there is not much inherent difference in complexity. > Is it just that coders are more willing to share their work > than administrators even in cases where it is equally reusable? > > -- >Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
disagree, we read them all the time. if we didnt, then we would be wasting time & money purchasing very hi tech and then wasting time and money not being able to use it or spinning wheels looking for docs etc. i think the problem is more that rules are not enforced in many lists... or nobody wants to be the one that enforces properly & gracefully yet be publically known. and should only be direct posting... nabble and other pseduo input interfaces should be blocked -rh > > No one reads FAQs. They're a relic of the old guard (what, > read the FAQ and monitor a newsgroup for a week before > joining in? Huh! What a bizarre notion! I need answers > now!!!). I autopost a FAQ to a few newsgroups on a monthly > basis and still no one ever reads it. > > -- > > rgds > Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source
mark the FAQ suff is a good idea... in fact, when people singup, they should have to agree to list rules or be pointed to them on signup. i wonder though, seriously, does the "teach a man to fish" principle really apply? ie LMGTFY type stuff or ??? or cluesticks? ;-> as far as lazy, it is hard to find motivated people that want to work/participate. they just want paychecks. - rh > > However, he is, indeed, pulling what I referred to in my > proposed FAQ as "asking us to do his job for him". And, for > that matter, if he actually > *has* RHEL, he's presumably paid for it, and it's his *job*, > for which he is presubably getting paid, and he wants us to > do it for free. > > mark > > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] DSL battling rojter - help!
realistically you are not getting any dns when in dhcp mode, the /etc/resolv.conf file typically will point to the router ip instead of real dns servers once you deal with that, you should be ok... thing is, if you stay in dhcp mode, the next time you dhcp or reboot, the resolv.conf will go back to pointing at the router ip to get dns so, as others mentioned, if you disable dhcp mode and hard code your ip, netmask, gateway, and resolv.conf file among other things, you will be ok - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Release 6?
> > I thought 4 was too buggy compared to 3 and held off > upgrading most machines until 5 was out. In retrospect that > still seems like it was a good move even if most of the > problems in 4 were eventually fixed in updates. But with > many years elapsing between releases, skipping a version like > that may not be possible again. > > -- >Les Mikesell Les, what was buggy for you? internet facing or just internal servers? centos and the centos team have been rock solid for us in dealing with CentOS 4 on our servers. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Release 6?
> > > > RHEL2 is already out of support (it was end-of-lifed on May > 31, 2009). > > > > RHEL3 will go out of support Oct 31, 2010. > > > > RHEL4 will go out of support Feb 29, 2012 > > Since the world will end in 2012, your version 5 installs > will be just fine!!! >LOL > Scott, hehehe, do you mean biblically or the *kaboom* version re: end of world ? time tables re: upstream or centos support could be off depending on what you believe... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Release 6?
> They won't change the cycle for existing releases (they would > get into contract liability if they did). > > RHEL2 is already out of support (it was end-of-lifed on May 31, 2009). > > RHEL3 will go out of support Oct 31, 2010. > > RHEL4 will go out of support Feb 29, 2012 > > RHEL5 will go out of support Mar 31, 2014 > > *If* they change it in the future, it would only apply to the > next major releases (IOW RHEL6+) > > -- > Benjamin Franz wow... think about it... remember when *we all* were chomping at the bit for Centos3... yeah, like horses... that's right... chomping at the bit... ;-) at least i seem to recall it was version 3, and then Centos4 came out and we all needed a migration path from 3 to 4... and thankfully, there was an easy way... again, if i remember correctly... seems like yesterday cause we still use version 4 and, of course, some ver 5 too - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] glibc updates and rebooting
i forgot... is it necessary to reboot after glibc* yum updates on 4.x and 5.x or any centos for that matter... tia - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] routing multiple network cards on a single subnet
> > I have had a number of people ask me why I want this > arrangement, where I have two modems on a single outbound subnet. > > This is (going to be) a server with limited upload bandwidth. > By having two outbound connections, I can use a round robin > dns entry to share the load between the two connections and > increase my capacity. > -- Frank, do both internet feeds come from the same ISP? DSL? Cable? if DSL, get a 3620 and two ADSL Wics and work with the ISP to bond the DSL's together and remove one of the server nics out of the equation. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] routing multiple network cards on a single subnet
> > I'm starting to wonder if the simplest solution to this is to punt. > > If I put a $40 router between eth2 and the big scary world, > then eth2 could become 192.168.whatever.whatever, and then > this routing issue would go away on its own and it could > still talk to the outside world (and vice versa) on its IP > address from Access. > > I assume, based on the fact that I have never encountered > this before on machines with multiple ethernet cards that > were on different subnets. > > Or would this still not work as it should? > -- Frank, i know this has been addressed on the list a few times recently yet i dont know if that will give you a solution. ummm, why do the two different networks need an IP on the same subnet ? can you just bond and bridge and have the same ip on both or ??? is this a redundancy thing? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] OT: free DNS service?
> > I have been using a free DNS service for the past seven (7) years. > This morning, at 4 A.M., , I changed the "A" record for one > of my web sites, to point to an IP address on a different > server, so I could test. After watching the TTL count down > from 3600 to zero, with the "dig" command, it then reset to > 3600, but still resolved to the > original IP address. :-) I set the "A" record back to the original > IP address and filed a Support Ticket with that company, but > if they cannot get this to work properly again, I need a new > DNS service that is free. Recommendations? (BTW, the Domain > is registered with GoDaddy, but not hosted there, so it > appears I cannot use their "Total DNS" service). TIA! > > Lanny Lanny, there are "many" other factors involved in DNS and it's distribution & usage... one thing is that virtually every machine has it's own resolver and typically a cache of some sort... it is early so i may not be using specifically precise terms... so, when you make a dns change properly on a serving system, it still has to get distributed and that doesnt mean that every machine that has a resolver or cache has changed at that instant... it can take more time than you expecetd... until the cache in the resolver on that system is updated, changed, flushed, refreshed, whatever etc... it doesnt need to go get an update... example only: so, like on a windwos box, you can down the ethernet and bring it back up and walla walla! on linux boxes, there are various things you can do there... exercise left up to the reader - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] httpd and robots.txt
would anyone out there care to share their robots.txt experience using centos as a webserver and their robots.txt files? i realize this is a somewhat simple exercise, yet i am sure there are both large and small hosters out there and possibly those that have high traffic modify their robots.txt files differently that others ??? please share if you can or care to please? for years we have just did a * (allow all) and disallow on things like /cgi-bin as examples of places to visit for those out or in the know... http://www.robotstxt.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots_exclusion_standard http://www.google.com/robots.txt and others... quite frankly, there are many orgs out there that dont follow this anyways, right? anyone? tia - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 8-15 TB storage: any recommendations?
> Karanbir Singh wrote: snip > > Good question, they are after all ( the Sun 45xx's ) just > opteron box's with a mostly standard build. Finding a CentOS > compatible ( drivers pre-included, and not crap like cciss ) > would not be too hard. > > Who wants to offer up a machine to test on :) > > -- > Karanbir Singh Karanbir, what is wrong or what problems are you referring to with cciss please ? tia - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] attack
> Hi, > > i have Check my tmp directory and subdirectorys for std, > udp.pl no file exist. Also i have check /etc/passwd and > /etc/shadow for unusual users. > > regards Manu, forgive me if i missed it when i deleted several of the posts in the thread yet how hard is it to check all the pertinent logfiles? unless this is a very sophisticated compromise that hides, moves, or deletes things, or the management system is trash, the info you need is "typically" in one or more of the various logfiles on the system something as simple man less less /var/log/httpd/access_log less /var/log/httpd/error_log replace appropriate logfile names as necessary... in general, there are many you can look at to gain some wisdom... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Server packet loss and becomes unresponsive
do you have remote console access i.e. DRAC or ILO ? did you mention if any recent OS or other software updates like 5.3 to 5.4 or otherwise? someone could be DOS'ing the server ??? do you run a firewall and drop bad traffic to the floor or is it wide open? you havent mentioned what the various logs on the server tell you. what about thermal issues? recent BIOS update? things in BIOS that should be turned off or changed ? also, you might consider using some boot time kernel parameters to disable things hardware wise etc that are not absolutely necessary. do you hard set NIC duplex in software? i.e. ETHTOOL_OPTS="speed 100 duplex full autoneg off" does it match the switchport? i.e. hard set? auto negot? cisco should be hard set. is the switchport bad? bad cable or cable ends? bad fiber or fiber connectors? mac address or arp issues? the list goes on. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help! i want to clone my Centos machine to another box..
roland, what i recently did was use this info and modified the backup-servers script slightly http://www.jms1.net/code/rsync-backup.shtml it was really simple to move a live centos4 from one machine to another after admin down services that would allow data to change on the final rsync pass. one machine was an older compaq DL380 and the new machine was a HP DL360 basically i did a centos 4 load on the new machine and paid careful attention to what needs to be excluded as well as changed before and afterwards things like /etc/modprobe.conf then change ips and reboot. the having two servers side by side thing is a different set of circumstances and setup... we just cloned one to the other and took the original machine offline. if you have a lot of linux experience and cannot figure out the step by step, post what you did to "try" and accomplish it and then we can help more later please be specific in your postings - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] 10 Year old IT Infrastructure
> > Specific arguments I can think of would be: > - Hard/Impossible to find replacement hardware > - Lack of support for both H/W and S/W > - Possibly unable to run current versions of CentOS > - Higher probability of hardware failures over time > - Performance bottlenecks > > Any other thoughts? > > Shawn > > __ Shawn, i dont think you mentioned the specific hardware involved... i.e. brand and model number and config it makes a difference in how we would approach it... mainly because we have some 10 year old and older hardware that has been running rock solid it's entire life and we expect several more years out of some of it... we keep hot and cold spares of everything though... to be semi generic, i am talking about business / industrial rackmount Compaq & HP servers, and some telco quality Cisco of course... :-) please do share... - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] guestbook for centos 4 or 5 ???
> > > > Why not try wordpress mu then? > ___ wordpress mu? is that like the nerdy lazy cow version? ;-) - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] guestbook for centos 4 or 5 ???
> > May I ask what purpose the guestbook should serve? > > You could just install wordpress and moderate every comment > before it's posted. > Guestbooks only accumulate spams. > Who writes into guestbooks nowadays? > I've got a blog myself and of the 500 or so comments it has > accumulated, 495 are spam. > Of those that are not spam, three are useless and one > commenter could also have emailed me, because she has my address. > > Guestbooks are sooo "90s" > ;-) > Rainer Ranier, um basically a customer asked if i had something already for it... i said ill look into it. the first thing i also thought of was *wordpress*, yet then each person in the family will want their own blog and i havent setup wordpress where it will support multiple blogs with only one instance of wordpress in one apache virtual domain space etc - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] guestbook for centos 4 or 5 ???
does anyone have a very secure & reliable recommendation for a guestbook solution for virtual hosting on centos 4 or 5 ? - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Securely backing up Linux machines to NAS?
nice simple script and setup info here... http://www.jms1.net/code/rsync-backup.shtml - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for add disk SCSI
Luis, backup the data on the machine just in case then put the other 4 disks in. they should all be identical to each other, or identical in pairs. (our preference) they do not have to be identical to the first pair... reboot and deal with the HP hardware raid controller setup of the disks i do not believe you will be able to "hardware" raid 1+0 the the 4 disks together using the HP setup in BIOS i believe you will have to do it as qty (2) more RAID 1+0 pairs, yet you can look and see. you could hardware RAID5 the other 4 as well. it all depends on what the HP hardware controller allows you to do and it will tell you easily and plainly. again, make sure you backup your data first. - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] rsync
check this out if you wish to do root based server backups or whatever http://www.jms1.net/code/rsync-backup.shtml - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] How to clone CentOS server ?
> > Don't know if that is really true ... Anyway: > Install a minimal system and then rsync everything over. > > Kai > > -- > Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Kai for list purposes, would you consider sharing a script that shows what to sync and what *not* to sync :-) - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] CentOS 4 i386 and x86_64 release of CentOS-4.8
dunno if it is a priority, or if anyone is to concerned, yet wiki.centos.org does not appear to come up well in ie8 tested fine in firefox, yet ie8 was wacked ymmv - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
