Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 04/01/2013 06:20 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > On 4/1/2013 2:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin >>>> wrote: >>>>> WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC >>>>> turned >>>>> it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and >>>>> type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the >>>>> top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very >>>>> quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or >>>>> just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either. >>>>> Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive >>>>> about >>>>> shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion? >>>> That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the >>>> previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware >>>> issue. Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or >>>> network. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Les Mikesell >>>> lesmikes...@gmail.com >>>> ___ >>>> CentOS mailing list >>>> CentOS@centos.org >>>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>>> >>>Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems >>> Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's >>> name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition. >>> Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is >>> at a level I can deal with. Thanks. >>> >> They can't spell. On the cover is a non-ascii char, that when I was a kid >> in school, was the way some books spell Caesar, with the "a" and the "e" >> sharing a line. >> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Essential-System-Administration-Third-Frisch/dp/0596003439> >> >> As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books >> from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who >> really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY KNOW >> (as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years ago, >> that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the pharmaceutical >> co's market for sleeping pills out of business) >> >> mark >> >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > Thanks. I'll browse the bookstore for books from O'Reilly Publisher > and see what appeals to me. Texts can be boring as I well know as an > Assoc Prof, retired, and many are sooo boing it is a shame. Anyhow, > will look and I'm sure I'll find somethig suitable. > > Bob > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Have inconsistency in getting it to let me login. Yesterday no luck. At '$ runlevel' got 53 so it must have been at runlevel 3. startx no help, back to blue screen. Today, just started it first time and it booted right to GUI login screen. All is OK that has been set up like email, FF, printer etc. Checked Pref/System/Network Connection and the box is greyed out. Pref/SysytemNetwork Proxy only 'Direct Internet connection' is ticked. Everything else is greyed out. Ran updates also. This happened a few days back and was fine as long as I stay logged in. Re-boot or shutdown was not good. Couldn't log in again. Then surprisingly today it is back. WTF ? Other HDs are OK and work reliably. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 4/1/2013 2:07 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin >>> wrote: >>>>WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC >>>> turned >>>> it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and >>>> type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the >>>> top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very >>>> quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or >>>> just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either. >>>> Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive >>>> about >>>> shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion? >>> That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the >>> previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware >>> issue. Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or >>> network. >>> >>> -- >>> Les Mikesell >>>lesmikes...@gmail.com >>> ___ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS@centos.org >>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >> Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems >> Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's >> name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition. >> Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is >> at a level I can deal with. Thanks. >> > They can't spell. On the cover is a non-ascii char, that when I was a kid > in school, was the way some books spell Caesar, with the "a" and the "e" > sharing a line. > > <http://www.amazon.com/Essential-System-Administration-Third-Frisch/dp/0596003439> > > As I may have said, everyone I know in computers has a number of books > from this publisher - he specializes in not only finding people who > really, really know their subject, but CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE WHAT THEY KNOW > (as opposed to, say, the BAL textbook I had in college, many years ago, > that if I could have gotten the rights to, I'd put all the pharmaceutical > co's market for sleeping pills out of business) > > mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Thanks. I'll browse the bookstore for books from O'Reilly Publisher and see what appeals to me. Texts can be boring as I well know as an Assoc Prof, retired, and many are sooo boing it is a shame. Anyhow, will look and I'm sure I'll find somethig suitable. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC turned >> it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and >> type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the >> top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very >> quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or >> just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either. >> Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive about >> shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion? > That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the > previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware > issue. Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or > network. > > -- >Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Looking for the book you recommended by Fraesch: Essential Systems Administration. Tried a local Barnes and Noble store and the author's name is different. They have it as Frisk, same title. Third Edition. Hope it's the same book. Can you double check please. I assume this is at a level I can deal with. Thanks. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 03/31/2013 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC turned >> it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and >> type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the >> top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very >> quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or >> just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either. >> Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive about >> shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion? > That's the way it is supposed to work, and since no one recognized the > previous symptoms my best guess is that it was some sort of hardware > issue. Maybe swapping the drive left a bad connection to the disk or > network. > > -- >Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Saga continues. re-booted from GUI and it went to blue screen. Shut down and returned in about 2 hours and turned it on and it worked again. So I guess from what you say this is the way it will be. Unless I shut down from GUI vs. rebooting. BTW, System/Network Connections shows empty box. System/Network Proxy shows box with Location:Default and tick in 'Direct internet connection. Everything else is greyed out. Thanks. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 03/30/2013 05:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>Question: if it starts at runlevel 3 can I log in on a GUI or is it in >> text mode. If the latter is the case, I assume I can log in as user and >> I should get a GUI so I can use FF, TB etc. Right? And then eventually I >> need to get back to runlevel 5 as a permanent login procedure ... someday! > Init 5 starts X and a GUI-type login process. When you log in, it > starts your GUI desktop.In runlevel 3, you log in in character > mode, but 'startx' will start X, then your desktop and after that it > is all the same. Except that with the startx approach, if anything > goes wrong you can to kill the X session and you > will drop back to the parent character mode login where you can check > the logs and try again. > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > WELL, I don't know what to say. I just put the HD in the PC turned it on and was waiting for the blue screen so I could login as root and type 'init 3'. BUT, guess what happened. A tiny clock appeared at the top left followed by a log in screen and here I am. Happened very quickly. A few seconds. Now, do I dare log out and try to get back or just wait for a reply from you. Yesterday I never did init 3 either. Maybe it is the Easter Bunny. I don't know. I'm a bit apprehensive about shutting off and trying again. What's your opinion? Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/30/2013 2:44 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> So when I put the HD back in the PC it will boot up and I can wait >> and see if it allows me to log in> (HA!) If not, then Ctl+Alt+F2 and >> login as root and try startx and see what it does. I didn't change >> inittab ever since this whole senario started. Is default to start at >> runlevel 5? Bob > Yes, installs that include X and a desktop will default to runlevel 5. > Before trying 'startx' , do 'init 3' as root. That should shut down > the existing session, but whatever is hanging on startup may prevent a > clean shutdown too. So startx may complain that there is still a lock > file and you may have to remove it manually and run startx again. > > -- >Les Mikesell >lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Just to be sure, do 'init 3' by editing /etc/inittab with gedit and change the runlevel to 3 from 5. Number only. Save and reboot or shutdown and re-start. Then as root, try startx and remove a lock file if it says one is there. Question: if it starts at runlevel 3 can I log in on a GUI or is it in text mode. If the latter is the case, I assume I can log in as user and I should get a GUI so I can use FF, TB etc. Right? And then eventually I need to get back to runlevel 5 as a permanent login procedure ... someday! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/30/2013 12:41 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> basesystem, system-config-kdump, dracut-kernel, kexec-tools, dracut, >>> nautilus-sendto, file-roller, totem-nautilus, evince, xinetd, >>> gnome-user-share, brasero-nautilus, gnome-disk-utility, >>> nautilus-open-terminal, nautilus, nautilus-extensions, filesystem >> then, typed /var/log/Xorg.0.log and at the bottom it listed the >> files above as 'installed'. The same ones that were previously marked as >> 'Erased' So hopefully that is good. Had to shut down and do errand and >> back now but haven't tried anything yet. > You'll be back where you started after a reboot if you didn't change > inittab to start at runlevel 3.That is, if you do the 'init 3' and > X doesn't shut down cleanly you will have to remove the lock file > again. But at least you'll know what is going on if 'startx' > complains.You may or may not hang in the same way when starting > via 'startx' so try to watch for any error messages that might flash > by first. > > -- >Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > So when I put the HD back in the PC it will boot up and I can wait and see if it allows me to log in> (HA!) If not, then Ctl+Alt+F2 and login as root and try startx and see what it does. I didn't change inittab ever since this whole senario started. Is default to start at runlevel 5? Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/29/2013 4:09 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 3/29/2013 3:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Robert Benjamin >>> wrote: >>>> looked in /var/log/yum.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log permission denied >>>> chmod a+x OK got list of time stamped and at bottom I tried yum install >>>> one of the items there. Got 'no package name '. >>> You need to do most of this as root. Carefully... I am logged in as >>> root > For administration, either log in as root, or sudo -s, which will make you > root (but leave a trail in the logs of what you did... which might be > helpful for oopses. > > Just about everything in /var/log is root-only readable. You shouldn't > change that, for security reasons. > >>>> Tried again to find .X0-lock and no luck. Hope I didn't make >>>> things worse. > Right. One of the few things that really annoys me about Linux is that the > old std, at least where I worked, for ll was ls -laF, *not* ls -lF. I > really *do* want to see hidden files, and the permissions/ownerships of > the directories I'm looking at. > > If you'd find that convenient, edit your .bashrc, or whatever, to add > alias ll="ls -laF" > > I've also not seen anywhere that > h=history > wasn't the case, except for linux > >>>> Yum update said no packages set for install and yum >>>> install (from time stamped items) said 'no package available' with the >>>> name and numbers from a time stamped line picked at random. >>> Your yum remove command may also have been interpreted oddly if you >>> had the space after /tmp. >>> Normally you would just give the base package name to install, >>> stopping before the -version-number part. >>> For example if your log says yum removed gnome-disk-utility.i686 >>> 0:2.30.1-2.el6 you would get it back with >>> yum install gnome-disk-utility. >> I never got a nice neat list lie what you have above .Maybe I had >> another error when I tried to look in /var/log/yum.log What is the best >> command to use to look in here? > tail /var/log/yum.log > or > view /var/log/yum.log > > DO NOT EDIT IT... which is why I used view, to default to uneditable. You > can, of course, force it, but it warns you. > >mark as root. first did rm /tmp/.X0-lockgot remove regular file '/tmp/.X0-lock'? - typed y and got back to the root login prompt where I started. Guess that was ok. Next typed cat /var/log/yum.log Got the list you mentioned, and the date where I made the error had things marked with 'erased'. It was as long as the list I erroneously removed, so I did yum install filename for each one and they all worked. Here is the list that was re-installed: > basesystem, system-config-kdump, dracut-kernel, kexec-tools, dracut, > nautilus-sendto, file-roller, totem-nautilus, evince, xinetd, > gnome-user-share, brasero-nautilus, gnome-disk-utility, > nautilus-open-terminal, nautilus, nautilus-extensions, filesystem then, typed /var/log/Xorg.0.log and at the bottom it listed the files above as 'installed'. The same ones that were previously marked as 'Erased' So hopefully that is good. Had to shut down and do errand and back now but haven't tried anything yet. Bob > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/29/2013 3:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> looked in /var/log/yum.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log permission denied >> chmod a+x OK got list of time stamped and at bottom I tried yum install >> one of the items there. Got 'no package name '. > You need to do most of this as root. Carefully... I am logged in as root > >> tried rm /tmp/ .X0-lock > ^^no space there. Realize the error now. Will > repeat sans space. >> gives '/tmp is a dir. > The shell breaks commands on white space. > >> Did cd /tmp/ .X0-lock and ls several files and subdirs (?) but no >> X0-lock > You actually did a cd /tmp. Yes I did cause it said tmp is a dir so I thought I would find something there but no luck. I tried. > >> Tried again to find .X0-lock and no luck. Hope I didn't make >> things worse. > Your are looking for /tmp/.X0-lock. Another convention is that files > starting with a . are 'hidden' in the sense that ls will omit them > unless you use the -a option. so just what should appear after I type rm /tmp/.X0-lock Any output expected? > >> Yum update said no packages set for install and yum >> install (from time stamped items) said 'no package available' with the >> name and numbers from a time stamped line picked at random. > Your yum remove command may also have been interpreted oddly if you > had the space after /tmp. > Normally you would just give the base package name to install, > stopping before the -version-number part. > For example if your log says yum removed gnome-disk-utility.i686 > 0:2.30.1-2.el6 you would get it back with > yum install gnome-disk-utility. I never got a nice neat list lie what you have above .Maybe I had another error when I tried to look in /var/log/yum.log What is the best command to use to look in here? Thanks . Have a great Easter Holiday. Bob > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikes...@gmail.com > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/29/2013 7:41 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > On 3/28/2013 4:25 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>Thought it was not a good idea to use yum remove but had to >>> try. In my head I could see you asking me to try it and I should have >>> TRIED something, not just sit here. Well, hopefully I can put those >>> packages back as you said, tomorrow. Will look for Fraesch book. Thanks >>> for the suggestion. Not sure if I'm at runlevel 5 .It's at whatever it >>> was set at during the install. Never changed any settings unless told >>> to. In the one login I only installed FF, TB, Calc Gimp etc from the >>> Applications menu .Entered email addys and bookmarks and logged out >>> thinking I'd be OK to get back in again. HA! >> Default install would be runlevel 5, at least if you include desktop >> components. And your assumption that you would be able to log in >> again wasn't bad - you seem to have some very unusual issue that no >> one else has. >> > Having an issue that no one else has makes me feel good in a way. > At least I didn't do something incredibly stupid ( that we know of > yet), and on the other hand, it isn't encouraging either. Will try and > add the packages I removed as you suggested and then use rm /tmp/ > .X0-lock and hope it lets me log in.Bob > >(At the center of a black hole is a man with a flashlight, > running around looking for a circuit breaker.) > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > looked in /var/log/yum.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log permission denied chmod a+x OK got list of time stamped and at bottom I tried yum install one of the items there. Got 'no package name '. tried rm /tmp/ .X0-lock gives '/tmp is a dir. Did cd /tmp/ .X0-lock and ls several files and subdirs (?) but no X0-lock. Noticed var there so cd /var and ls cd tmp got ifcfg-eth0.swp and also benjie1-HnQ9gw adjacent to the .swp BTW benjie1 is my user login. Tried again to find .X0-lock and no luck. Hope I didn't make things worse. Yum update said no packages set for install and yum install (from time stamped items) said 'no package available' with the name and numbers from a time stamped line picked at random. Have a GREAT Easter Holiday. Thanks so much for your patience and hlp. Greatly appreciated. We will get this to work, Right! Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 4:25 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Thought it was not a good idea to use yum remove but had to >> try. In my head I could see you asking me to try it and I should have >> TRIED something, not just sit here. Well, hopefully I can put those >> packages back as you said, tomorrow. Will look for Fraesch book. Thanks >> for the suggestion. Not sure if I'm at runlevel 5 .It's at whatever it >> was set at during the install. Never changed any settings unless told >> to. In the one login I only installed FF, TB, Calc Gimp etc from the >> Applications menu .Entered email addys and bookmarks and logged out >> thinking I'd be OK to get back in again. HA! > Default install would be runlevel 5, at least if you include desktop > components. And your assumption that you would be able to log in > again wasn't bad - you seem to have some very unusual issue that no > one else has. > Having an issue that no one else has makes me feel good in a way. At least I didn't do something incredibly stupid ( that we know of yet), and on the other hand, it isn't encouraging either. Will try and add the packages I removed as you suggested and then use rm /tmp/ .X0-lock and hope it lets me log in.Bob (At the center of a black hole is a man with a flashlight, running around looking for a circuit breaker.) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 3:49 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> On 3/28/2013 1:29 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Robert Benjamin >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Things never work very well for me before having coffee either, but >>>>>> that's probably not the real solution. So when you established that > It's always a problem, if there's too much blood in your caffeine > stream > >>>> No, if yum update worked we know the network is OK. What happens if >>>> run 'init 3' (should shut down the partly-working X session), and then >>>> 'startx' which will start a new one under your existing login? >>>> >>>init 3 it did shutdown the partly working X session. Several line >>> flashed on screen and 2 had FAILED at end of line. Too fast to readtwhat >>> it said. >>>startx Fatal server error: >>> Server is already active for display 0 >>>If the server is no longer running, remove /tmp/ >>> .X0-lock and start again. >>> I did yum remove /tmp/ .X0-lock. It removed 17 packages and >>> then I did startx (again) Got the same re: remove /tmp/ .X0-lock. One >>> other line I saw Unable to connect to X server was present in output of >>> startx. >> That should have just been an 'rm /tmp/.X0-lock' (a file, not >> packages). Not sure how much damage has been done at this point. If >> you know the package names, try to 'yum install' them back again. >> And rm the file, and try startx again. > Ok, first, as Les said, NO! Just rm the file. Now, to reinstall what got > yum removed, look at /var/log/yum.log, and it's the last bunch of stuff, > nicely timestamped, so you won't accidentally go too far. > > Then, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and you'll be able to see, at > the bottom, what it was trying to tell you. > > Note: if you haven't figured it out yet, all the system-related logs are > in /var/log/. > > Note 2: find a copy of Fraesch's Essential Systems Administration, > published by O'Reilly. I know the last update was '03; doesn't matter. > Read chapter 1 and *esp* chapter 2, "The Unix Way", which will give you a > really, really clear picture of how the whole thing hangs together, and > the rationale behind why the filesystem is the way it is. > > Finally, I've seen so many issues over the years, that at home, I run at > runlevel 3, and have startx in my .bashrc. Doing it that way, if you have > problems, when you hit , you're back at your command > line, and you can look to see what was wrong with X. If you do want to > stay at runlevel 5, work it out this way, and once you've got it fixed, > you can do so. Thought it was not a good idea to use yum remove but had to try. In my head I could see you asking me to try it and I should have TRIED something, not just sit here. Well, hopefully I can put those packages back as you said, tomorrow. Will look for Fraesch book. Thanks for the suggestion. Not sure if I'm at runlevel 5 .It's at whatever it was set at during the install. Never changed any settings unless told to. In the one login I only installed FF, TB, Calc Gimp etc from the Applications menu .Entered email addys and bookmarks and logged out thinking I'd be OK to get back in again. HA! > mark > mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 1:29 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> Things never work very well for me before having coffee either, but >>> that's probably not the real solution. So when you established that >>> your network and DNS was working, Gnome was working too? Can you log >>> in on a virtual character-mode terminal session (control-alt-F2) and >>> try the ifconfig and dig commands again?If everything appears to >>> work there, I'd try a 'yum update' just on general principles. >> Sure. Will do dig and ifconfig again. Did yum update this morning, >> 23 packets updated .Worked fine. You need the output from dig and >> ifconfig again? > No, if yum update worked we know the network is OK. What happens if > run 'init 3' (should shut down the partly-working X session), and then > 'startx' which will start a new one under your existing login? > init 3 it did shutdown the partly working X session. Several line flashed on screen and 2 had FAILED at end of line. Too fast to readtwhat it said. startx Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If the server is no longer running, remove /tmp/ .X0-lock and start again. I did yum remove /tmp/ .X0-lock. It removed 17 packages and then I did startx (again) Got the same re: remove /tmp/ .X0-lock. One other line I saw Unable to connect to X server was present in output of startx. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 1:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > >>> I thought you said you had Gnome to a point where you could log in. >>> If you get that far I'd stick with it because it is the default >>> desktop and there will be more people with similar configurations to >>> help sort out any other problems.If you did get to a login once >>> but can't now, please describe what you did to make it work before. >>> >>> I started Centos, booting up with the HD and waited to login. When the blue >>> screen appeared, and nothing else, I wnet out for coffee and on my return >>> there was a login screen so I logged in and seet up FF, TB etc. Hoping >>> things were OK, I shut down, and next day I started up and never let me log >>> in even today, after waiting an hour. Guess this isn't much help but it is >>> how I logged in that one time. Bob > Things never work very well for me before having coffee either, but > that's probably not the real solution. So when you established that > your network and DNS was working, Gnome was working too? Can you log > in on a virtual character-mode terminal session (control-alt-F2) and > try the ifconfig and dig commands again?If everything appears to > work there, I'd try a 'yum update' just on general principles. Sure. Will do dig and ifconfig again. Did yum update this morning, 23 packets updated .Worked fine. You need the output from dig and ifconfig again? > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 12:40 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Just a thought. Would it help if I did yum install KDE, and then >> yum remove gnome? Reason is that I see on the different fora some >> pro/cons with Gnome and KDE. Since Gnome won't let me back in is it >> worth a try?Bob > you can always install KDE and try, but there's no reason to uninstall > gnome (they can coexist peacefully). Will try that. nothing to lose I guess. Bob > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 11:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Just a thought. Would it help if I did yum install KDE, and then >> yum remove gnome? Reason is that I see on the different fora some >> pro/cons with Gnome and KDE. Since Gnome won't let me back in is it >> worth a try?Bob > I thought you said you had Gnome to a point where you could log in. > If you get that far I'd stick with it because it is the default > desktop and there will be more people with similar configurations to > help sort out any other problems.If you did get to a login once > but can't now, please describe what you did to make it work before. > > I started Centos, booting up with the HD and waited to login. When the blue > screen appeared, and nothing else, I wnet out for coffee and on my return > there was a login screen so I logged in and seet up FF, TB etc. Hoping things > were OK, I shut down, and next day I started up and never let me log in even > today, after waiting an hour. Guess this isn't much help but it is how I > logged in that one time. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 10:13 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > On 3/28/2013 9:38 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> On 3/27/2013 5:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>>> Les Mikesell wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Robert Benjamin >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Did you mean ping nytimes.com ? >>>>>> tcpdump -A port 50 output is tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, >>>>>> use -v or -w for all protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type >>>>>> EN10MB (Ethernet), capturing size 65535 bytes, and a blinking cursor >> which I >>>>>> left for 20 min and re-started, tried with -v got listening on eth0, >>>>>> type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes. re-started and meant >>>>>> to use -w but forgot and just typed tcpdump. That gave tons of output >>>>>> which I can't fathom and let it go for 30 minutes. Re-started one >>>>>> more time and pinged nytimes.com That returned screenful of data >> packets >>>>>> all ok. Then shutdown til tomorrow. >>>>> I think he meant port 53 instead of 50 to catch the DNS exchange - >>>>> which now sounds like it is working anyway.When you start, does >>>>> gnome eventually work normally now?.I'd do a 'yum update' on >>>>> general principles if you at least have the network running. >>>>> >>>> Thanks, Les, that was what I meant. I've been snowed under all week, and >>>> more so today: it's not one thing after another, it's three things all >>>> at the same time >>>> >>>tcpdump with port 53 was no different than with port 50. >>>Waited an hour after startup and still had that same blue >>> screen. Is that the gnome desktop screen? So no it doesn't eventually >>> work. An hour is eventually right? :-) >>> yum update installed 23 packages successfully. >>>Should I re-instal again? It will be the 3rd time. >> Mmmm, another nasty thought I just went, and found your original post, >> where you said you'd done an install using minimal. I'm, well, let us say >> underwhelmed by "minimal" - I have to add stuff on a headless server to >> get online. > I corrected that minimal install by starting over from a DVD with a > full install and ticking the Gnome GUI. It did once after the long wait > let me log in to Centos 6.4 with gnome and I could use it, instead of > win 7 for browsing, email etc. > > What's your goal here - is it to have a working desktop environment? If > so, and you have not done so yet, there's an option for desktop; I'd > install that, though you can always choose that, then check "customize > now", and add or subtract things. > > Goal is to use Centos 6.4 with gnome as my OS and not win 7. Yes, I'd > like a working desktop environment with FF and TB and other programs, > Libre Office, Gimp etc Did the customize now on last time I > re-installed. Now I'm still trying to get online. I had things set up on > the desktop the last time it let me log in and I want to get back there > in a reasonable time frame. Just like to use Centos as I can win 7 or > Ubuntu or mint 14. It just doesn't want me to log back it anymore. :-( >> With minimal... I'd have to sit at your keyboard and figure out what's >> missing. >> >> mark Just a thought. Would it help if I did yum install KDE, and then yum remove gnome? Reason is that I see on the different fora some pro/cons with Gnome and KDE. Since Gnome won't let me back in is it worth a try?Bob >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/28/2013 9:38 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 3/27/2013 5:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> Les Mikesell wrote: >>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Robert Benjamin >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Did you mean ping nytimes.com ? >>>>>tcpdump -A port 50 output is tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, >>>>> use -v or -w for all protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type >>>>> EN10MB (Ethernet), capturing size 65535 bytes, and a blinking cursor > which I >>>>> left for 20 min and re-started, tried with -v got listening on eth0, >>>>> type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes. re-started and meant >>>>> to use -w but forgot and just typed tcpdump. That gave tons of output >>>>> which I can't fathom and let it go for 30 minutes. Re-started one >>>>> more time and pinged nytimes.com That returned screenful of data > packets >>>>> all ok. Then shutdown til tomorrow. >>>> I think he meant port 53 instead of 50 to catch the DNS exchange - >>>> which now sounds like it is working anyway.When you start, does >>>> gnome eventually work normally now?.I'd do a 'yum update' on >>>> general principles if you at least have the network running. >>>> >>> Thanks, Les, that was what I meant. I've been snowed under all week, and >>> more so today: it's not one thing after another, it's three things all >>> at the same time >>> >> tcpdump with port 53 was no different than with port 50. >> Waited an hour after startup and still had that same blue >> screen. Is that the gnome desktop screen? So no it doesn't eventually >> work. An hour is eventually right? :-) >> yum update installed 23 packages successfully. >> Should I re-instal again? It will be the 3rd time. > Mmmm, another nasty thought I just went, and found your original post, > where you said you'd done an install using minimal. I'm, well, let us say > underwhelmed by "minimal" - I have to add stuff on a headless server to > get online. I corrected that minimal install by starting over from a DVD with a full install and ticking the Gnome GUI. It did once after the long wait let me log in to Centos 6.4 with gnome and I could use it, instead of win 7 for browsing, email etc. What's your goal here - is it to have a working desktop environment? If so, and you have not done so yet, there's an option for desktop; I'd install that, though you can always choose that, then check "customize now", and add or subtract things. Goal is to use Centos 6.4 with gnome as my OS and not win 7. Yes, I'd like a working desktop environment with FF and TB and other programs, Libre Office, Gimp etc Did the customize now on last time I re-installed. Now I'm still trying to get online. I had things set up on the desktop the last time it let me log in and I want to get back there in a reasonable time frame. Just like to use Centos as I can win 7 or Ubuntu or mint 14. It just doesn't want me to log back it anymore. :-( > > With minimal... I'd have to sit at your keyboard and figure out what's > missing. > >mark > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 5:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>>> Did you mean ping nytimes.com ? >>> tcpdump -A port 50 output is tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, >>> use -v or -w for all protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB >>> (Ethernet), capturing size 65535 bytes, and a blinking cursor which I >>> left for 20 min and re-started, tried with -v got listening on eth0, >>> type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes. re-started and meant >>> to use -w but forgot and just typed tcpdump. That gave tons of output >>> which I can't fathom and let it go for 30 minutes. Re-started one more >>> time and pinged nytimes.com That returned screenful of data packets >>> all ok. Then shutdown til tomorrow. >> I think he meant port 53 instead of 50 to catch the DNS exchange - >> which now sounds like it is working anyway.When you start, does >> gnome eventually work normally now?.I'd do a 'yum update' on >> general principles if you at least have the network running. >> > Thanks, Les, that was what I meant. I've been snowed under all week, and > more so today: it's not one thing after another, it's three things all at > the same time > > mark tcpdump with port 53 was no different than with port 50. Waited an hour after startup and still had that same blue screen. Is that the gnome desktop screen? So no it doesn't eventually work. An hour is eventually right? :-) yum update installed 23 packages successfully. Should I re-instal again? It will be the 3rd time. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 3:57 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: > On 3/27/2013 3:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> On 3/27/2013 1:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Robert Benjamin >>>> wrote: >>>>>> The reason I think this is the problem is the post where you said you >>>>>> could log in after a very long delay. About the only thing that can >>>>>> cause a very long delay is the system waiting for DNS responses on >> >>>> The IP address looks like what you would get from a typical home >>>> router, so that's probably OK. A quick test for DNS would be the >>>> 'dig' command. If it quickly returns a screenfull of root >>>> nameservers and addresses, then DNS is not the problem.If it >>>> doesn't, then check what you have in your /etc/resolv.conf file. >>>> >>>dig returned a lot of root nameservers instantly. >> Nasty thought: in one window, run tcpdump -A port 50, and in another, try >> looking something up, say, nytimes.com, something obvious. See what's >> going and coming. >> >> mark > Did you mean ping nytimes.com ? tcpdump -A port 50 output is tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -w for all protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capturing size 65535 bytes, and a blinking cursor which I left for 20 min and re-started, tried with -v got listening on eth0, type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes. re-started and meant to use -w but forgot and just typed tcpdump. That gave tons of output which I can't fathom and let it go for 30 minutes. Re-started one more time and pinged nytimes.com That returned screenful of data packets all ok. Then shutdown til tomorrow. Bob >> ___ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 3:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 3/27/2013 1:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Robert Benjamin >>> wrote: >>>>> The reason I think this is the problem is the post where you said you >>>>> could log in after a very long delay. About the only thing that can >>>>> cause a very long delay is the system waiting for DNS responses on > >>> The IP address looks like what you would get from a typical home >>> router, so that's probably OK. A quick test for DNS would be the >>> 'dig' command. If it quickly returns a screenfull of root >>> nameservers and addresses, then DNS is not the problem.If it >>> doesn't, then check what you have in your /etc/resolv.conf file. >>> >> dig returned a lot of root nameservers instantly. > Nasty thought: in one window, run tcpdump -A port 50, and in another, try > looking something up, say, nytimes.com, something obvious. See what's > going and coming. > >mark Did you mean ping nytimes.com ? > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 1:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> The reason I think this is the problem is the post where you said you >>> could log in after a very long delay. About the only thing that can >>> cause a very long delay is the system waiting for DNS responses on >>> what it thinks is a working network interface. The next things >>> needed for further diagnosis would be the output of the 'ifconfig' >>> command after you are able to log in, and the results from 'cat >>> /etc/resolv.conf. The first should show the IP address assigned by >>> DHCP from the router, and the second will have the DNS nameserver >>> address(es). >> In the last post on the forum is the output of ifconfig. It closely >> resembles what was shown there and stated that my output should resemble >> the one already there in post 29 ,and it does. There was no suggestion >> to try cat /etc/reslov.conf. Can do that from the root login. Will wait >> til I get a reply from the forum. Plenty of suggestions from here and >> the forum and I'll keep up with both. The delay was almost an hour BTW. >> Thanks again. The router works perfectly fine and quickly for win 7, >> Ubuntu 12.2 and Mint 14. > The IP address looks like what you would get from a typical home > router, so that's probably OK. A quick test for DNS would be the > 'dig' command. If it quickly returns a screenfull of root > nameservers and addresses, then DNS is not the problem.If it > doesn't, then check what you have in your /etc/resolv.conf file. > dig returned a lot of root nameservers instantly. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 1:04 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> If you can log in and use an editor in character mode you can fix it. >>>The change needed in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 will >>> be obvious once you get that far. But, it might be easier to >>> reinstall if you don't know how to do that. Since it is a new install >>> anyway you won't lose anything. >> In the CentOS forum under Software Support is my thread: Centos 6.4 >> won't install on reboot. Post number 27 or 28 lists the output I got >> from FAQ2 above from cat /etc /sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 My >> guess is the most important line there is ONBOOT=yes Anyway, there are >> suggestions in the forum which I will follow and then post the results >> back to the forum. Thanks again. > Yes, the ONBOOT=yes is already there. However, some of the other > parts of that thread make me think that your network interface > actually comes up but you are not getting a DHCP address or the DHCP > server supplies a DNS server address that does not work. These would > usually be supplied by your internet router. Are you confident that > it is set up correctly? > > The reason I think this is the problem is the post where you said you > could log in after a very long delay. About the only thing that can > cause a very long delay is the system waiting for DNS responses on > what it thinks is a working network interface. The next things > needed for further diagnosis would be the output of the 'ifconfig' > command after you are able to log in, and the results from 'cat > /etc/resolv.conf. The first should show the IP address assigned by > DHCP from the router, and the second will have the DNS nameserver > address(es). In the last post on the forum is the output of ifconfig. It closely resembles what was shown there and stated that my output should resemble the one already there in post 29 ,and it does. There was no suggestion to try cat /etc/reslov.conf. Can do that from the root login. Will wait til I get a reply from the forum. Plenty of suggestions from here and the forum and I'll keep up with both. The delay was almost an hour BTW. Thanks again. The router works perfectly fine and quickly for win 7, Ubuntu 12.2 and Mint 14. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/27/2013 8:39 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >>> See this FAQ entry: >>> >>> http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS6#head-b67e85d98f0e9f1b599358105c551632c6ff7c90 >> Had read this FAQ many times and clicked "Configure Networking" and >> selected system eth0 and connect automatically. Bottom line is that it >> booted once but not a second time after logging off. Mentioned this I >> think. So that is where I have difficulties. In FAQ 2 above, the 'will >> start on boot in the future" is what id doesn't do. I can re-install >> again if that's necessary and hope it works this time. > If you can log in and use an editor in character mode you can fix it. > The change needed in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 will > be obvious once you get that far. But, it might be easier to > reinstall if you don't know how to do that. Since it is a new install > anyway you won't lose anything. In the CentOS forum under Software Support is my thread: Centos 6.4 won't install on reboot. Post number 27 or 28 lists the output I got from FAQ2 above from cat /etc /sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 My guess is the most important line there is ONBOOT=yes Anyway, there are suggestions in the forum which I will follow and then post the results back to the forum. Thanks again. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/26/2013 5:29 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 03/26/2013 03:25 PM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> On 3/26/2013 3:14 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: >>> On 26 March 2013 18:58, wrote: >>> >>>> Had you, for example, searched to find out a) how to look at a file, b) >>>> looked at the files I suggested you look at, or c) showed you'd done >>>> ANYTHING other than read my response and go, "duh, what's that mean?", I'd >>>> have been willing to work with you. >> I had done some of the things you said. Did find out a) and b) and >> I think I posted output from cat >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 in the thread. I know it is >> there in post 26. Trying to learn Linux at age 77 ain't easy. The >> comments from different ppl will not send me scurrying back to windows. >> I have no probs with Ubuntu 12.2 nor Mint 14. Both installed on their >> own HDs the first time and I didn't have to edit anything. Only CentOS >> is giving me troubles which is a surprising thing to me. Is this due to >> differences between Debian and PRM. > No, the problem is that you did not turn on networking when you did the > install. > > Since networking is off, you have to get it turned on (or reinstall and > turn it on this time). > > See this FAQ entry: > > http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS6#head-b67e85d98f0e9f1b599358105c551632c6ff7c90 Had read this FAQ many times and clicked "Configure Networking" and selected system eth0 and connect automatically. Bottom line is that it booted once but not a second time after logging off. Mentioned this I think. So that is where I have difficulties. In FAQ 2 above, the 'will start on boot in the future" is what id doesn't do. I can re-install again if that's necessary and hope it works this time. > and this screen on how to do it on an install: > > http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=CentOS_6&p=install > > In the 8th step ... you need to press the "Configure Network" button and > you need to then check the "Connect Automatically" box (per the above > FAQ link). > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/26/2013 3:14 PM, Benjamin Donnachie wrote: > On 26 March 2013 18:58, wrote: > >> Had you, for example, searched to find out a) how to look at a file, b) >> looked at the files I suggested you look at, or c) showed you'd done >> ANYTHING other than read my response and go, "duh, what's that mean?", I'd >> have been willing to work with you. I had done some of the things you said. Did find out a) and b) and I think I posted output from cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 in the thread. I know it is there in post 26. Trying to learn Linux at age 77 ain't easy. The comments from different ppl will not send me scurrying back to windows. I have no probs with Ubuntu 12.2 nor Mint 14. Both installed on their own HDs the first time and I didn't have to edit anything. Only CentOS is giving me troubles which is a surprising thing to me. Is this due to differences between Debian and PRM. > > You seem to be getting your Benjamins confused. *I* am very familiar with > Linux, have rescued more systems than I care to remember using single user > mode and, frankly, rarely bother with a GUI. > > Unconfuse the Benjamins. This is my last name and seems it'syour first. >> And "don't say anything"? Sorry, but if you don't *tell* someone what >> they're doing wrong, they'll never change. > If you're seriously that busy then get on with your day job and just leave > the message to someone with more time who will give a better impression of > the community. > > Ben > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
On 3/26/2013 1:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Newbie here. Need help with a thread that has about 25 posts. No >> replies in a few days. The thread is in software support for centos 6 >> and the subject of the thread is Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install. >> Have had limited success in getting a login screen but once I logout, I >> can't get back in again. It was mentioned in the thread that the problem >> is likely in Network Configuration. I have no GUI (gnome) no mouse, no >> terminal, and keyboard use only with Ctl+Alt+F2. Can login as root but >> have no luck getting the GUI to appear or to get a user login screen. >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> > I think you need to take another entry-level course in English, in > writing > > Sounds like several problems, from what I can tell from the contorted > para, above. First, you appear to have a problem with X. Does the correct > driver *work*? Questions for this: what video card? Video card is what came with Dell Inspiron PC. do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (not subdirectory) How would I find a file from that black F2 screen? >if so, what driver is it showing? >Driver? Where can I find the driver you refer to? Next: you can't log back in (as you?), but can as root. Questions for this: what's in /var/log/secure after you've tried? Ctl_Alt+F2 from gnome screen (screenshot posted in thread) gives me a login prompt on a text screen I assume. Can login as root there. Once I rebooted from there with Clt+Alt+ Del and got a GUI and logged in. When I closed it I was unable to log back in except with the Ctl+Alt+F2 keys and this gets me back to a black screen with a login prompt and just the keyboard works. Or /var/log/messages? what's in your username entry in /etc/password for shell? Have no way to find out what's in /var/log/messages or in username entry in /etc/password for shell. The only things I can enter are on the black screen where I log in as root. Then have to write down the output, go to win7 and use email to reply to you and then back to Centos if needed. I can't even get a terminal screen to use for anything. Appreciate the satire, I can do that but it is a waste of time. Send me your physical address, and I'll see if I can scrape up a blue book and pencil mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/index.php?cat=9 Is this what you want? Hope so. On 3/26/2013 12:13 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Newbie here. Need help with a thread that has about 25 posts. No >> replies in a few days. The thread is in software support for centos 6 >> and the subject of the thread is Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install. >> Have had limited success in getting a login screen but once I logout, I >> can't get back in again. It was mentioned in the thread that the problem >> is likely in Network Configuration. I have no GUI (gnome) no mouse, no >> terminal, and keyboard use only with Ctl+Alt+F2. Can login as root but >> have no luck getting the GUI to appear or to get a user login screen. >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Bob > It would help if you actually post the URL: > > https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41919&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0 > > Akemi > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
Post URL for what? Sorry I don't understand. On 3/26/2013 12:13 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Robert Benjamin wrote: >> Newbie here. Need help with a thread that has about 25 posts. No >> replies in a few days. The thread is in software support for centos 6 >> and the subject of the thread is Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install. >> Have had limited success in getting a login screen but once I logout, I >> can't get back in again. It was mentioned in the thread that the problem >> is likely in Network Configuration. I have no GUI (gnome) no mouse, no >> terminal, and keyboard use only with Ctl+Alt+F2. Can login as root but >> have no luck getting the GUI to appear or to get a user login screen. >> Thanks in advance for your help. >> >> Bob > It would help if you actually post the URL: > > https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41919&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=0 > > Akemi > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Help with thread Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install
Newbie here. Need help with a thread that has about 25 posts. No replies in a few days. The thread is in software support for centos 6 and the subject of the thread is Centos 6.4 won't reboot on install. Have had limited success in getting a login screen but once I logout, I can't get back in again. It was mentioned in the thread that the problem is likely in Network Configuration. I have no GUI (gnome) no mouse, no terminal, and keyboard use only with Ctl+Alt+F2. Can login as root but have no luck getting the GUI to appear or to get a user login screen. Thanks in advance for your help. Bob ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
