Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen4CentOS installation strangeness

2014-03-04 Thread Robert Dinse


 I'd look in the logs for Xorg failures.

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:


Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:45:01 +0200
From: Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi
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Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] Xen4CentOS installation strangeness

On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:50:40PM +0200, Peter Peltonen wrote:

   Hi,
   I have a server with Supermicro X7DVL-3 (P9) motherboard, 16G ECC RAM and
   LSI SAS 1068e RAID controller. I installed CentOS 6.5 64bit on the machine
   without any problems, but after following the Xen setup steps at
   [1]http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart
   which installed me the kernel 3.10.32-11.el6.centos.alt.x86_64, I
   encountered a problem: After Starting certmonger [OK] the screen went
   black and the system became unresponsive: keyboard was not working
   (NumLock did not respond) and SSH was not responding either. After first
   lockup I increased dom0 max mem to 2G, but rebooting after that produced
   the same result. The strange thing is, that after a third reboot
   everything worked ok: screen went black for a moment after Staring
   certmonger [OK] but after that the graphical login screen appeared and I
   could use the system normally. The fourth reboot went ok as well.
   Any ideas what could cause this kind of behaviour?



No idea really.. but what you should do is to enable/configure a serial console,
probably by using the IPMI SOL, so you can capture and log all the Xen and dom0 
kernel
boot messages..

So we can hopefully *see* what the issue is, and not have to guess :)

-- Pasi


   Regards,
   Peter



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Re: [CentOS-virt] disk io in guests causes soft lockups in guests and host processes

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Dinse

  What helped a lot for me is to increase the read ahead drastically on
guests:

# Set read-ahead for optimal disk I/O
blockdev --setra 16384 /dev/vda

  I optained this value by repeatedly timing copies and this was, for my 
installation at least, optimal.

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Zoltan Frombach wrote:

 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:01:10 +0100
 From: Zoltan Frombach zol...@frombach.com
 Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
 centos-virt@centos.org
 To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS centos-virt@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] disk io in guests causes soft lockups in guests and
  host processes
 
 I experienced similar issues when disk images of virtual machines were
 stored in qcow/qcow2 files instead of logical volumes (LVM).
 Using LVM gives you way better I/O performace than using qcow files.

 Also very important: when you partition your disk drive(s) make sure
 that partitions are properly aligned to the physical allocation block
 size of the hard drive you use. Let's say your hard drive uses 4k
 sectors then every partition you create must start at a 4k boundary. If
 your partitions are mis-aligned then you'll get terrible disk I/O
 performace, just like the one you have described.
 For more info see, for example:
 http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Partition_Alignment

 You can also tweak Linux to get better KVM performance. For more info
 you can check out these documents:
 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/topic/liaat/liaatbestpractices_pdf.pdf
 http://www.novell.com/docrep/2013/05/kvm_virtualized_io_performance.pdf

 Zoltan

 On 2/20/2014 5:53 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a strange phenomenon that I cannot readily explain so I wonder if
 anyone here can shed a light on this.

 The host system is a Dell r815 with 64 cores and 256G ram and has centos
 6 installed. The five guests are also running centos 6 and are running
 as a hadoop cluster. The problem is that I see disk-io spikes in the
 vm's which then cause soft lockups in the guest but I also see hanging
 processes on the host as if the entire machine locks up for 30-60 seconds.

 Now I know that having all cluster members running on the same system
 isn't efficient and that I cannot expect good performance but what I was
 not expecting is that a guest make host processes hang.
 Does anyone have an idea what the issue could be here or how I can find
 out what cause for this behavior is?

 Regards,
 Dennis
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Hey

2014-01-28 Thread Robert Dinse

  I've used both Xen and KVM and at least in benchmarks of applications I
did here I didn't see much difference and since KVM is natively supported by
RedHat, that's what I've been using.

  Obviously on this list there is mostly Xen users, and I feel like I must
be missing some great advantage so I am curious, those of you who prefer Xen,
why?

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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, NightLightHosts Admin wrote:

 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:21:36 -1000
 From: NightLightHosts Admin ad...@nightlighthosts.com
 Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
 centos-virt@centos.org
 To: centos-virt@centos.org
 Subject: [CentOS-virt] Hey
 
 Just want to let you guys know that, although it may have been around
 for a bit, bringing Xen back to CentOS is awesome and I really
 appreciate it.  I was very disappointed when RedHat dropped support as
 Xen is awesome.

 Thanks for the effort!
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[CentOS-virt] Traffic Accounting KVM vs Xen

2013-08-15 Thread Robert Dinse

  We've been using CentOS 6.4 for both host and KVM guests for our own 
internal uses here, ftp server, mail servers, web server, etc.

  I am getting to where we want to offer virtual servers for lease but to
do so we need some method of measuring and/or limiting traffic to individual
guests.

  I am wondering what others are using for this purpose?  I know that you
can look at traffic stats on the bridge on the host machine but that 
information is lost when the machine is rebooted.  I'm wondering if there is
any software that databases that information on an ongoing basis and does not
lost information across reboots?

  Second question, what are the advantaged and disadvantages of KVM verses
Xen?  I played with Xen back when I had CentOS 5, but find KVM easier to work
with and not much difference in performance.

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[CentOS-virt] Ethernet Not Talking

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Dinse

  After applying a number of updates to both the host and the virtual 
machines, I had one virtual machine which would not talk to the network after
the updates.  Rebooting numerous times didn't help, I couldn't see anything
wrong with either it's configuration or the bridge on the host machine.

  I ended up restoring that machine from an image and then re-applying the
updates and then everything was okay.

  Amoung other things the updates included an update to glibc.

  I was wondering if anyone else encountered something similar and had
come to a better understanding of what went wrong?

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Xapi packages in CentOS xen-c6 repo: first steps

2013-07-02 Thread Robert Dinse

  I operate an ISP, I'd be willing to provide ftp/web space for this if
the bandwidth doesn't become crippling.

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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Grant McWilliams wrote:

 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:24:19 -0600
 From: Grant McWilliams grantmasterfl...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
 centos-virt@centos.org
 To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS centos-virt@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] Xapi packages in CentOS xen-c6 repo: first steps
 
 I'd like to test them as soon as you get ANY repo up.

 Grant McWilliams
 http://grantmcwilliams.com/

 Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use
 Windows.
 Now they have two problems.


 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Dave Scott dave.sc...@eu.citrix.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks Mike for bringing this up.

 On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Mike McClurg mike.mccl...@citrix.com
 wrote:

 Hi list,

 Dave Scott has been working on a prototype of XenServer's Xapi running
 on stock CentOS 6.4 x86_64, with libvirt and ceph integration. He plans
 to demo this at the CentOS dojo in Aldershot next week.

 We'll be publishing the RPMs for this in a public Yum repo, and we would
 really like for these RPMs to eventually live in the xen-c6 repo. I was
 wondering what are the steps for making this happen, and also if it
 would be possible to make this happen before the dojo next Friday (12
 July).

 My RPMS are in a bit of an experimental state, and I'd really appreciate
 people's feedback. It might be too soon to merge them into xen-c6 by next
 week, but it would be nice if I could point people at an online copy
 somewhere. Perhaps we could make a xen-c6-experimental repo or something? I
 could then rsync new builds regularly and put setup instructions on the
 CentOS wiki.

 Cheers,
 Dave



 We can provide a public Yum repository with these SRPMS and RPMS, if
 that would help. Thanks,

 Mike
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Very odd mouse issue

2013-05-24 Thread Robert Dinse

 I've run into the same issue, screwing around with CONTROL-ALT-L, which
is supposed to get you out of the window not in it, restarting the virtual
manager, etc, eventually something seems to snap and it works, but I've not
been able to determine either why it messes up or what corrects it.

 Another odd issue, I can get the freenx-server to work fine from guests
but not from the host with the bridge.  I've noticed that oddities that happen
with the mouse with vnc don't happen with nx, so I'd really like to get that
to work on the host.

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On Fri, 24 May 2013, aurfalien wrote:

 Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:24:09 -0700
 From: aurfalien aurfal...@gmail.com
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 Subject: [CentOS-virt] Very odd mouse issue
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm VNCing into my KVM server and opening virt-manager.
 
 When trying to manage a newly created guest, I'm finding the mouse pointer 
 stays on the outside of its virtual machine window.
 
 Any insight as to why its tracking so oddly?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 - aurf
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[CentOS-virt] Windows Direct-X and Virtualization

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Dinse

 Is there anyway to run a Windows machine as a virtual machine and have
direct-X display on the host console in full screen mode?  If anyone has this
working can you tell me what hardware, drivers, etc you are using?  Thank you.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Windows Direct-X and Virtualization

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Dinse

 The reason I asked is that I run an ISP, it would be spiffy to have one
machine that I can bring up multiple OS's fully functional to troubleshoot
various issues customers have.  Already have virtual machines for
infrastructure but they are all Linux (CentOS or Scientific Linux).

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, SilverTip257 wrote:

 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:16:52 -0500
 From: SilverTip257 silvertip...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
centos-virt@centos.org
 To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS centos-virt@centos.org
 Subject: Re: [CentOS-virt] Windows Direct-X and Virtualization
 
 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Robert Dinse nan...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 
   Is there anyway to run a Windows machine as a virtual machine and have
  direct-X display on the host console in full screen mode?  If anyone has
  this
  working can you tell me what hardware, drivers, etc you are using?  Thank
  you.
 
 
 There's a driver other than the default video driver (Cirrus? I think) that
 is supposed to be quicker for Windows (I can't seem to find the materials I
 read months ago).  In testing I found that this driver wouldn't support
 higher resolutions, so I abandoned it.  I don't run Windows VMs in
 production, so I've not experimented much with it in KVM.
 
 What I'm reading is that Direct-X support is iffy. [0] [1]
 
 [0] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280013
 [1]
 http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/06/getting-3d-acceleration-on-virtualbox.html
 
 Maybe someone will speak up who has worked with Windows on KVM quite a bit
 more than I have.
 
 
 
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[CentOS-virt] Time

2013-01-02 Thread Robert Dinse

 Friday, I moved our servers to a new co-lo facility and ran into an
interesting problem with virtual machines.

 I did an orderly shutdown of the CentOS 6.3 host, and it in turn suspends
all the guests.  It took about an hour and a half to move and fire up the host.

 The guests, being suspended, were then an hour and a half behind and it
seems ntpd does not want to correct more than 1000 seconds of error so it would
not automatically adjust the clocks.

 I tried the -g argument which is supposed to override the 1000 second
limit but it did not.  I ended up having to manually set the clocks close
enough for ntpd to correct.

 Since there is no hardware clock for the virtual machines to use when they
boot, it seems that shutdown and reboot of the virtual machines probably would
not have avoided this.

 Any suggestions for addressing this particular scenerio other than having
to manually set a bunch of clocks?

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Time

2013-01-02 Thread Robert Dinse

 I thank everyone for their input.  I prefer to have the guests suspend
rather than shutdown because many of my customers start things up manually and
get annoyed when they come back to find them not running.  Most of the time
it is for a simple reboot of the host to make a new kernel or some other update
active.  This particular time though I had to move all the equipment to a new
co-location facility because the old provider had become far too greedy.

 So I guess rdate -s is probably the best solution.

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Re: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)

2012-12-07 Thread Robert Dinse

 About the only thing you can do is not run Windows, or at least that
version, XP does the same thing, continuouslys spins the CPU when there aren't
any user processes using time.  I've heard this is resolved in Windows-7 but
haven't tried it personally.

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, Shawn Everett wrote:

 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:02:14 -0800
 From: Shawn Everett sh...@tandac.com
 Reply-To: Discussion about the virtualization on CentOS
centos-virt@centos.org
 To: centos-virt@centos.org
 Subject: [CentOS-virt] (no subject)
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have recently installed CentOS 6.3 with QEMU+KVM for Virtualization.
 
 I have successfully created a Windows 2003 VM with 4GB of RAM.  The host
 server is an HP ML350 G8 with 24GB RAM and 24 cores.  Details of one of
 the cores is shown below:
 
 processor   : 23
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 45
 model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 0 @ 2.00GHz
 stepping: 7
 cpu MHz : 1200.000
 cache size  : 15360 KB
 physical id : 1
 siblings: 12
 core id : 5
 cpu cores   : 6
 apicid  : 43
 initial apicid  : 43
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 13
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca
 cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx
 pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good xtopology
 nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2
 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx lahf_lm
 ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid
 bogomips: 3989.86
 clflush size: 64
 cache_alignment : 64
 address sizes   : 46 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
 power management:
 
 On an otherwise completely idle system I've noticed the load to be 1.0 to
 1.5 range.  Running top shows the culprit to be: qemu-kvm.
 
 Is this normal behavior?  I would have expected the load to be pretty light.
 
 Stopping the VM restores the load to normal once again.
 
 Is there anything I can do to reduce the load?
 
 Shawn
 
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