Re: [CentOS] RHEV guest tools

2011-12-29 Thread Simon Grinberg


- Original Message -
> From: "Johan Kooijman" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:07:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] RHEV guest tools
> > I dont use RHEV (yet) but being that its based on KVM and libvirt I
> > dont
> > think you need guest tools. When you configure in RHEV Manager does
> > it
> > identify the paravirtual devices as virtio? If so then its standard
> > in the
> > kernel used by CentOS since around 5.5. I run all my CentOS VMs on
> > the KVM
> > / libvirt platform and systems install fine without any additional
> > tools.
> > The only additional thing I install is acpid to allow the VM manager
> > to
> > perform shutdowns and reboots.
> 
> My bad, indeed, the guest OS works perfect. What I'm looking for is
> the extra data RHEVM can provide that it get's from the guest tools,
> like IP, memory use etc. See
> http://bastion.jkit.nl/~jkooijman/rhev.png. The bottom one is a
> Windows machine with the guest tools installed.

You are using RHEV2.2 right?
There are no such tools for this version.

RHEV3.0 has RHEL guest agent for both RHEL5 guests and RHEL6 guest, the sources 
should be open in ovirt.org in the near future
http://www.ovirt.org/project/subprojects/
If you use CentOS as the guest then you'll have to compile it yourself :) 

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Re: [CentOS] Install CentOS as KVM guest

2011-04-28 Thread Simon Grinberg


- Original Message -
> From: "Emmanuel Noobadmin" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" , "kvm" 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:57:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Install CentOS as KVM guest
> Unfortunately, things still don't work.
> 
> 
> It's just ridiculous that the installer under KVM does not detect the
> cdrom drive it was booted from. Trying to do a net-install doesn't
> work, maybe I messed up the networking even though br0 and eth0 is
> working on the host.
> 
> Nevermind, let's install apache and use the mounted ISO. Verified
> apache is working and the CentOS folder is accessible via web browser.
> But, still the guest installer cannot seem to access the installation
> files.
> 
> OK, so maybe I messed up the networking, after all I am the noob...
> maybe specifying --network=bridge:br0 isn't enough. There was
> something about a tap or tunnel when initially reading up on bridged
> networking. Looking up more on this, there are several resources
> (sorry KVM FAQ leads to a page that no longer exist) which like many
> other instructions, give the commands without really explaining
> what/why.
> 
> So I have to run some tunctl command and scripts to add a bridge and
> tunnel/tap... but wait, I already made my bridge, will running the
> script kill my networking by creating a second bridge? Especially the
> warning about temporarily loosing connectivity due to ifcfg1 being
> reset.
> 
> And if I need to run this script everytime in order to activate the
> bridge and tunnel, doesn't that mean all my guest OS are screwed if
> the host reboots while I'm not around? Shouldn't these things go into
> permanent files like if-tun0 or something?
> 
> Every year, I get a little closer to not using VMWare but it seems
> like this year is going to be victory for VMWare again.

What version of VMWare are you using?

> 
> CC to kvm mailing list but I expect, like my previous request for help
> to the list, it will be rejected by mailman or a moderator.
> 
> 
> Just damn frustrated, even if it's probably just me being too stupid
> to know how to use KVM.
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-09 Thread Simon Grinberg


- Original Message -
> From: "Rajagopal Swaminathan" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2011 6:35:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List
> Greetings,
> 
> On 1/7/11, Nico Kadel-Garcia  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jim Wildman 
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Eero Volotinen
> >>> 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > It was completely useless: hopefully RHEL 6 and CentOS 6 get it
> > right.
> 
> 
> As the OP, I wish to report that I was able to create at least one vm
> using RHEV. I followed the guidelines given by Simon and had a
> openfiler available on an esx today.
> 
> I am yet to make the iso domain available to install OS in the guest.
> 
> RHEV and RHEV-M rocks so far.

Glad to here that. I'm sure you'd also be happy with KVM+virtio+TGT over Centos 
P.S with this combination you can actually have TGT running on the host meaning 
max IO performance while RHEM-Manager installed within a VM running on the same 
host :)

> 
> And Oh I am working with one of RH partners and they do have
> legitimate access to support. I recently took up the assignment and
> there were some registration stepe etc to be completed with RHN and
> the such which are scheduled later. for registering the call.
> 
> Though the idea I proposed about the public mailing list is still
> valid.

It's valid indeed. 
When RHEV will open for public evaluation there will be one. In the mean while 
you have Red Hat's support for your disposal.

Regards,
Simon.

 
> 
> If only the entry barrier were not there, we individuals can otherwise
> help pass some worthy (or unworthy) comments on the products.
> 
> Thanks for all those responded.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Grinberg


- Original Message -


From: "Tom Bishop"  
To: "CentOS mailing list"  
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:25:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List 

I'm going to chime in here, First off I want to thank Simon for pitching in and 
trying to help out.The problem I have is that while I would love to run 
RHEV, at the moment having to have a windows server to install it on is a bit 
much for mein fact it kind of runs opposite of what I am trying to do and 
that is to not have to do any windows management at allnow of course all of 
the bigger Enterprise Installations will have windows server at their disposal 
but not always the smaller guys.So I am waiting for the RHEV port to linux 
which I know is under way but can't get here soon enoughif you have any 
insight as to when that might happen that would be Great 

:) 

Well the only thing I can assure is that this project is being driven on full 
steam. 

RHEV Manager is a huge project so the porting to Linux is being done in two 
leaps. 
The upcoming leap is the migration of the codebase from .Net to Java / IIS to 
Jboss 
http://lpeer.blogspot.com/2010/04/switching-from-c-to-java.html 
But it's still on windows :( (With REST API interface though, so you'll be able 
to manage RHEV from Linux environment). 
I can't at the moment provide an exact date to full Linux version but it may 
still make it to 2011. 


n Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Simon Grinberg < si...@redhat.com > wrote: 







With RHEV you'll have SPICE, that does not need both as after installation of 
the guest tools it does not grab the mouse. 

>VMWare could learn a lot from Sun's and 
> now Oracle's efforts with that tool. 

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Grinberg

> 
> For RHEL 5 and CentOS 5, I found KVM to be useless. The management
> tool is not good, and the bridged networking requirement is very
> awkward, and it performed like a dog being beaten with a missing leg.

What guest OS have you tried?
RHEL5.4 and up come with Virtio drivers so using virtio devices RHEL 5.4+guests 
will provide good preformance

> 
> I'm interested in trying it for RHEL 6 and CentOS 6,

Indeed you should see performance boost on RHEL6

> but until then
> I'm personally relying on VMWare ESX for institution virtualization,

Then you should compare to RHEV and not to RHEL + virt-manager
(RHEV also has Virtio drivers for windows guests)

> and Virtualbox because it's a much more usable configuration interface
> tool and uses "Right-Ctrl" to release the mouse from the virtualized
> console instead of "Ctrl-Alt". 

With RHEV you'll have SPICE, that does not need both as after installation of 
the guest tools it does not grab the mouse.

>VMWare could learn a lot from Sun's and
> now Oracle's efforts with that tool.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Grinberg
>  snip 
> 
> > But the issue is how can I suggest purchase of product/support
> > without
> > knowing if a product works in the first place?
> 
> If you are really serious about evaluation, I am sure your local
> Redhat sales/marketing can work something out for you.

Actually I've tried to reply to this thread but as I've just enlisted to the 
list I failed to reply to this thread. 
I've tried to email Raju directly though but his is a summary of this email:

At the moment all RHEV evaluation installations are supported, evaluation 
engagements though are limited in scale to allow for this support. Evaluation 
engagements are managed by sales and partners.This is why for the time being 
you can't just download RHEV for evaluation. This means you got RHEV from one 
of our partners or sales people and you should be entitled to support.

Regardless of the said above, what can I do to help you with the evaluation?

What I understand with from the thread you are trying to use openfiler as your 
target, have you considered tgt? (I'm using this on all my setups)
Farther more, please try to avoid exposing storage from a VMware workstation 
VM, the IO performance is far from being satisfactory and may result in poor 
evaluation experience. If you must have your storage in a VM then it's better 
to use KVM virtual machine (Found both on Centos or RHEL distributions), use 
virtio disk and network, and install RHEL/Centos 5.5 guests. Alternative, if 
you must use VMware is to use ESXi.

Please feel free to contact me for farther assistance - I can suggest other 
alternatives as well.


Thanks,
Simon.
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[CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Grinberg
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Re: [CentOS] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Grinberg
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