Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-07-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of John R Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
wrote:

 So far I've come across a project called Gallery2, that seems to do
 what I want. Downside is that no rpm-packages are available with yum
 with this one.


 FYI, gallery2 is available in EPEL for EL-5.


gallery2 requires PHP, a SQL database, and a lot of server side
support.   IIRC, the original poster said he had none of those.

It's doable, but will require some work and time.

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-07-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of Ray Van Dolson
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:12 AM
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FYI, gallery2 is available in EPEL for EL-5.

I used the info available at
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-fedora-centos-linux-enable-epel-repo/ to
add the EPEL-repo.

r...@kadath ~ [0 jobs]# yum repolist
Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
kernel-module, priorities, protectbase, tsflags, versionlock
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: mirrors.se.eu.kernel.org
 * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
 * contrib: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * base: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * updates: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * addons: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * extras: mirror.ii.uib.no
repo id  repo namestatus
addons   CentOS-5 - Addonsenabled :
0
base CentOS-5 - Base  enabled :
2,508
contrib  CentOS-5 - Contrib   enabled :
0
epel Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 5 -  enabled :
4,377
extras   CentOS-5 - Extrasenabled :
311
rpmforge Red Hat Enterprise 5 - RPMforge.net - da enabled :
8,852
updates  CentOS-5 - Updates   enabled :
311
repolist: 16,359
r...@kadath ~ [0 jobs]#

r...@kadath ~ [0 jobs]# yum install *gallery*
Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
kernel-module, priorities, protectbase, tsflags, versionlock
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: mirrors.se.eu.kernel.org
 * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
 * contrib: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * base: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * updates: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * addons: mirror.ii.uib.no
 * extras: mirror.ii.uib.no
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
Reading version lock configuration
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
No package *gallery* available.
Nothing to do
r...@kadath ~ [0 jobs]#

You sure about Gallery2 being available in EPEL5? Or did you literally mean
EPEL5 and not EPEL5.3? 8-}

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-07-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of Sorin Srbu
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

FYI, gallery2 is available in EPEL for EL-5.

I used the info available at
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-fedora-centos-linux-enable-epel-repo/ to
add the EPEL-repo.

Replying to myself... Googled some and found that Gallery2 is most probably
in the Fedora development repo. Now to find how I add this repo to CentOS..

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[CentOS] Fortran90 and 77 on CentOS

2009-07-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

Is anybody here using Fortran90 and Fortran77 on their CentOS-machine(s)?

If so, did you get that from a repo or something? One of our PhD-students
needs a software that requires the Fortran compilers mentioned in order to
make the sources for our i7-machines. 

The Fortran stuff that is available to me is from the standard CentOS repos,
as well as Rpmforge and EPEL repos, from which I got gcc43-fortran and some
more dependencies and and such. But as far as I can tell, this is not going
to work.

This is all new territory to me, to have to compile stuff... Please let me
know if this is off-topic and should be taken elsewhere.

Thanks for any information.
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Re: [CentOS] Fortran90 and 77 on CentOS

2009-07-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Marcelo M. Garcia
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Fortran90 and 77 on CentOS

 Is anybody here using Fortran90 and Fortran77 on their CentOS-machine(s)?

 If so, did you get that from a repo or something? One of our PhD-students
 needs a software that requires the Fortran compilers mentioned in order
to
 make the sources for our i7-machines.

Intel has non-commercial software download with FORTRAN, C/C++, MKL, etc:
http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/non-commercial-software-download/

Yupp, thanks. Just ran into it like 10 seconds ago. 8-)


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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: Ray Leventhal [mailto:cen...@swhi.net]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:32 PM
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Cc: sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

Sorry for the late post on this thread, but there's free client called
'Jalbum' [1] that may well do the trick for you.  Many skins, some
simple, some not..an integrated ftp client for uploading to your web
server, and nothing else but your photos needed.  There's also a
pre-built rpm which I've used without issue on CentOS 4.7 and higher
(client machines).  I'm hosting more than a few of these albums on my
CentOS 5.3 server.

No problem. I'm still interested in what options I have for photo albums.

Checked the site ou linked too, but I don't get it. Would my pics be hosted
on my own server or on jalbum.net á la Picasa? I can't tell from the tour on
the jalbum web site.
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of luc...@lastdot.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:24 AM
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jalbum is a hog with large collections.. performance must be 5-6x less
than that of picasa on my computer (amd athlon x2, 1 gb ram, sata
drive, centos 5 32bit, around 8000 hires pictures)..

That bad?? Guess my Amd Duron/750 and 384MB ram is a no-go then...
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options [Solved]

2009-06-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Silva
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:50 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options [Solved]

 Anyway, I installed Gallery2 yesterday evening and finished up way late. It
 works sort of. I feel I need to read up on security best-practices with
 regard to mysql and also how to deny folder listings. As it is now I think
 mysql is seriously insecure for world access, and the folder listing shows
 the gallery2 contents to the world. I'll look into it this weekend.

If mysql and the gallery soft
ware are on the same server, then you don't need to open up mysql to the
world. The gallery software should be able to access the DB over the 
localhost
address, and you could firewall off outside access to mysql.

Yupp, that's what I did.

I had some other problems with a folder listing being visible for some reason 
on someurl.com/gallery2, so I ended up installing Gallery1 instead, but this 
one couldn't process any pictures because it though Image Magick and/or Netpbm 
wasn't installed (it was...), but the folder listings weren't there at least. 
I'll probably end up installing Gallery2 anyway. Need to read up on mysql and 
apache some more though, it might be a good idea anyway. The whole thing is 
resting right now. 8-)

Thanks for the hint though.
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Bart Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:01 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Sorin Srbusorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
wrote:
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
 Behalf
Of Bart Schaefer

Does anyone know of something REALLY simple?  As in, using nothing but
a directory hierarchy, CSS, and possibly some Javascript?

 Vi and some manual coding? ;-)

Yeah, if I had time ...

You and me both. ;-)


 Seriously, if you just want to have them available, just drop the files
in a
 folder and allow directory listing on that folder.

That's *almost* what I want, except I want the directory listing to
show the actual images instead of just links to the images.

Like thumbnails then. Isn't there some addon to Apache that might do that?

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options [Solved]

2009-06-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 Seems like I also did not mention it must be free, as in not costing
 anything. 8-)

 Though I dream of a six-disk NAS filled with 1TB-drives... 8-/

The point of these devices is that the cost ends up being negative
compared to running stuff on a full-featured computer powered up all the
time.  Plus, they integrate the media server, so upnp/DLNA clients like
the PS3/Xbox360 and an increasing number of network-connected TV's can
view the same pictures with their built in protocol without yet another
setup.

That might be interesting if you have all that flashy TV:s and stuff. My
computer-based PVR, running WinXP works fine, as does my Xboxes.

Anyway, I installed Gallery2 yesterday evening and finished up way late. It
works sort of. I feel I need to read up on security best-practices with
regard to mysql and also how to deny folder listings. As it is now I think
mysql is seriously insecure for world access, and the folder listing shows
the gallery2 contents to the world. I'll look into it this weekend.

Thanks all who suggested and hinted me!
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Greg Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:03 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

 My requirements are only that the software should be simple to install,
 maintain and add more photos. I'm not a pro (a newbie more like it...)
when
 it comes to mysql and php, so this needs to be easy to do as well, from
the
 gallery standpoint.


I've used PHPix2 for quite a long time now.  I like it because there's
no requirement for SQL and you can basically upload the original images
straight from the camera to a directory tree.  PHPix2 then lets the user
view pictures in a variety of resolutions, with forward/previous
thumbnails, album descriptions, etc.  It's easy to maintain backup
copies because it's just a regular directory tree.  Downside is it
hasn't been updated in awhile, but it may fit your needs...

More at:  http://phpix2.sourceforge.net

Nice! As it happens I had some problems with mysql last night. Didn't have
time to look into what the problem was really, but if there is a solution
w/o a db I'm certainly interested. Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:17 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

Sorin Srbu wrote:
 What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

I like http://drupal.org

It is an open source content management system.  You could use one of
the gallery modules that best suits your needs.  In addition, the system
is flexible and will allow you to do all sorts of other things (blogs,
share content, to do lists, project management, etc).

Here is a search of the modules with photo and album:
http://drupal.org/search/apachesolr_search/photo%20album?filters=type%3Apro
ject
_project

The web server in question is rather underpowered (it's a Duron 750 with
384MB RAM). I doubt a CMS would run well on such a machine. Thanks for the
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of nate
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:10 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

Sorin Srbu wrote:

 My requirements are only that the software should be simple to install,
 maintain and add more photos. I'm not a pro (a newbie more like it...)
when
 it comes to mysql and php, so this needs to be easy to do as well, from
the
 gallery standpoint.

I like gallery v1 myself and have used it for years. I tried gallery
v2 but it was too complicated to use(and hated the themes it came with
I just wanted something plain), I just wanted something
simple. It doesn't use a (SQL) DB, it does do auto resizing of
pictures when you upload them.

Interesting. The pics, are they kept in a straight up folder-structure or
something?

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 It doesn't have to be available in a rpm-package, just available from
 yum.
 Errr, yum doesn't know about anything but rpms.

 Yupp, that's what I was trying to say but failed. 8-} I prefer either a
 rpm-package to install from or something available via yum. Gallery2 is a
 tar.gz-packagge.

If you want something even easier for personal use there are inexpensive
network file server appliances with built in media and web services so
you just dump stuff in a mounted directory and it's available. For
example: http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS209j/index.php

Seems like I also did not mention it must be free, as in not costing
anything. 8-)

Though I dream of a six-disk NAS filled with 1TB-drives... 8-/
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Bart Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:59 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:09 AM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote:

 Sorin Srbu wrote:

  My requirements are only that the software should be simple to install,
  maintain and add more photos. I'm not a pro (a newbie more like it...)
when
  it comes to mysql and php, so this needs to be easy to do as well, from
the
  gallery standpoint.

 I like gallery v1 myself and have used it for years. I tried gallery
 v2 but it was too complicated to use(and hated the themes it came with
 I just wanted something plain), I just wanted something
 simple. It doesn't use a (SQL) DB, it does do auto resizing of
 pictures when you upload them.

Does anyone know of something REALLY simple?  As in, using nothing but
a directory hierarchy, CSS, and possibly some Javascript?

I don't want a web-browser upload interface, I don't want server-side
image resizing or rotating, and I don't want to care what server-side
software is available (particularly not a database).  I just want to
drop some images on dumb web host and be able to look at them without
having to explicitly follow a separate URL for every image -- or drop
a couple of extra files in a directory full of images on my disk and
hit a file:// URL to see them all.

Vi and some manual coding? ;-)

Seriously, if you just want to have them available, just drop the files in a
folder and allow directory listing on that folder. See
http://home-skynet.servehttp.com/images/privata_bilder/VFR-Forum/Muffler
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Rainer Duffner
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:38 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

I don't see why anybody on this mailing-list should be incapable of
mastering this task.

You just upload the unpacked gallery2 directory to your webspace,
create a db and a corresponding user with phpmyadmin and enter those
details into gallery2's installer.

Well, using and configuring a database is not something you learn while you
go, at least not me. That alone is my main problem with db-driven galleries.
Also, since this gallery will be exposed to the world, the db will need some
tweaking as well, so as to not be open to anybody. FWIW, I've now more or
less committed on Gallery2 and intend to sort mysql out, only it takes time,
even years until I can handle my own there. There is a learning curve to put
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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Bill Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:23 PM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really
helpful

With risk of splitting hairs, I'd rather use the phrasing Community
support
is available... instead of Volunteer support Again, it's the touchy
feely stuff that makes or breaks.

IHMO, Volunteer support is what is generally available on this
list, and similar fora for free.

Many of the contributors to this list also provide commercial
support, development, and consulting services.

Oh, didn't know that... Maybe this info should be on the mentioned page as
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[CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

I'm looking for a web photo gallery for my personal web server at home. Till
now I've done the galleries manually from Adobe Photoshop Elements, but I
feel that is a dead end, kinda', besides the fact that the galleries created
are rather static. I'd like an easier way to do this, eg uploading images in
folders directly to the gallery and it will take care of what needs to be
done automagically, like resizing etc.

So far I've come across a project called Gallery2, that seems to do what I
want. Downside is that no rpm-packages are available with yum with this one.

What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

My requirements are only that the software should be simple to install,
maintain and add more photos. I'm not a pro (a newbie more like it...) when
it comes to mysql and php, so this needs to be easy to do as well, from the
gallery standpoint.

Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Rudi Ahlers
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:33 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

   What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

   My requirements are only that the software should be simple to
install,
   maintain and add more photos. I'm not a pro (a newbie more like
it...) when
   it comes to mysql and php, so this needs to be easy to do as well,
from the
   gallery standpoint.

Hi Sorin,
Gallery2, Coppermine, 4Images Gallery, etc are all good galleries to use.
And
installation is very, very simple. upload the files to your websever, add a
MySQL
database, and run the installation.php script - very easy. I doubt if
you'll get a website
gallery that is packged in an rpm though.

It doesn't have to be available in a rpm-package, just available from yum.

Doing a yum list *gallery doesn't give me anything available from the
Centos and rpmforge repos. Just thought I'd make it simple for myself. 8-)

4Images I believe is commercial payware, so it's not interesting for me.
Coppermine I haven't heard of before, but will check up on. Otherwise,
Gallery it is.

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:36 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

In the past I have made galleries with konqueror - not on centos, but with
kde3, so I'm guessing that it works on centos.  I'm not at a centos desktop
at
the moment, so I can't check, but it should be a menu entry in konqueror.

It is, however, creating a static gallery.  It wouldn't be so easy for
others
to add photos, so may not meet your needs.

Konqueror?? That's a new one. Will check it up. Depending on what it can do
it might do the trick.

I don't really need others to add photos, just me. 8-) That doesn't
necessarily mean it shouldn't be simple to do it. Tedious uploads and such
only means I won't use the software in the long run. 8-/

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of luc...@lastdot.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:24 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 What web photo gallery software do you guys use?

Picasa3 can sync local albums to its web service. I'm quite happy with
it (although I'd prefer some open source replacement.. but there's
none as of yet), give it a try.

I've actually looked at Picasa already, and it looks nice and all, but I
feel I'd like a local gallery that *I* can control. As you say, open source
is preferable. Still, if I fail finding something suitable I'll go for
Picasa or something like it off-site.
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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:14 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 Konqueror?? That's a new one. Will check it up. Depending on what it can
do
 it might do the trick.

I creates an html page, so you'd have the choice of rebuilding with the
additional photos or simply editing the html i there were not too many.
HTH

Ah, got it. It's more like Photoshop Elements I mentioned earlier, only it's
moved to linux, instead of doing on Windows first then transferring.


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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

2009-06-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:01 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options

 It doesn't have to be available in a rpm-package, just available from
yum.

Errr, yum doesn't know about anything but rpms.

Yupp, that's what I was trying to say but failed. 8-} I prefer either a
rpm-package to install from or something available via yum. Gallery2 is a
tar.gz-packagge.


 Doing a yum list *gallery doesn't give me anything available from the
 Centos and rpmforge repos. Just thought I'd make it simple for myself.
8-)

 4Images I believe is commercial payware, so it's not interesting for me.
 Coppermine I haven't heard of before, but will check up on. Otherwise,
 Gallery it is.

The home page is here: http://gallery.menalto.com/

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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-23 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:01 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really
helpful

And there is always the issue that if Red Hat sees Centos as competition in
the
supported OS business, they will make the cloning and updates more
difficult.

I personally ignore that risk for now. 8-)

Has there been an indication they might do so lately?
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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-23 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Michael Semcheski
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:57 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Geoff Galitzge...@galitz.org wrote:
 I (amicably) object to the currently unavailable phrase.  As has been
 mentioned support is available.  I would suggest the following change:

 
 Currently the Centos Project cannot endorse any specific support offering
 and does not directly offer commercial support.  Support is available from
 third party consultants and firms.

 Volunteer support is available via IRC (channel #centos), Centos mailing
 lists and the Centos forums.
 -

I think the response from Geoff below is excellent.  Its honest, to
the point, and understandable.

With risk of splitting hairs, I'd rather use the phrasing Community support 
is available... instead of Volunteer support Again, it's the touchy 
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Re: [CentOS] RHEL, centos and seeing if i now understand this

2009-06-23 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Robert P. J. Day
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:57 AM
To: CentOS discussion list
Subject: [CentOS] RHEL, centos and seeing if i now understand this


  ok, given the flurry of responses to my original post, let me see if
i have a handle on this as i think i've finally figured it out and,
yes, it does make sense.

  the scenario is that there is a very large software company in the
area whose only officially supported linux platform is currently suse.
however, they are getting increasing call to have their product run on
red hat.

  for most of their clients (who are fairly sizable) who will want
official support, RHEL will be the obvious choice and the software
company will advertise that RHEL is what they support.  the SW company
will be happy, the clients will be happy, and red hat will be happy.

  on the other hand, if there is the occasional client who is perhaps
not as large, or doesn't have a budget for RHEL, centos will be the
obvious option if they're prepared to do their own support.  that
scenario will, i'm guessing, not be that common so red hat has nothing
to worry about it in terms of cutting into their revenue stream in any
significant way.

  and, finally, for any client that chooses centos, that will
represent a possible support contract for independent linux
consultants.

  sound about right?

Yes, to me it does.

FWIW, we've gone the same way. Us being a not as large client. 8-) We've
basically been a RHEL-shop mostly until I took over the linux-adminning and
had to ask for money to renew the RHEL entitlements. The support that is
included there I've used once, and ever since resorted to general web
searches, forums and mailing lists like this one and to finally settled for
CentOS, except for a handful of RHEL machines we still keep because of
software legacy. We're a university department with two sub-departments that
I admin. I'm also the entire IT-department(...)=meaning doing our own
support.

As support goes, I've yet to call RHEL for support again. I'm happy to say
that the help and hints I've gotten from members on this list alone is worth
a helluva' lot than a cursory look would tell. Very high signal-to-noise
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Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really helpful

2009-06-22 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Geoff Galitz
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:16 AM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to commercial support page isn't really
helpful

FWIW, I think we should lighten up on the original poster. He asked a
simple
question, he got an answer.  There's no need to beat up on each other...
it
is not constructive.

I second that; I've seen too many elitistic linux lists and forums, that
scared more people away than actually got the help they wanted. Let's not
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[CentOS] Wifi connection finally solved

2009-06-22 Thread Sorin Srbu
After a year or so of trying to get wifi-cards of various brands and chipsets 
to work, today it finally happened!
I got my 3com 3CRPAG175 to jump to it and connect to the department 
WPA2 AP! 
I wouldn't have done it without
your help. Thanks all!

One question though, should it really take upwards of a minute or so till the 
NetworkManager says it's now connected??

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Re: [CentOS] Mailing List mail forwarding loop

2009-06-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Ralph Angenendt
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:15 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Mailing List mail forwarding loop

Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 I've been getting over the last months several of these notices.
Sometimes
 a few per day. What's the problem? Can't this be avoided?

The mail system

 centos@centos.org: mail forwarding loop for centos@centos.org

I haven't the faintest idea *why* those happen. Especially as the mails
in question do make it through to the list (and I never got one of
those, so I cannot really look at all the headers).

There is a user centos on that machine, but as aliases  local users
in postfix context, I'm really out of ideas.

I got those denied messages as well from this list, but always thought it
was a side-effect of our university's gray-listing scheme or some such.
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Re: [CentOS] nvidia dual monitor setup centos howto

2009-06-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:23 AM
To: centOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] nvidia dual monitor setup centos howto

[...]
yum install nvidia-x11-drv.x86_64

[...]
Which versions of RH or FC correspond reasonably well to
my version of centos?
uname -a
Linux  2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 7 10:35:59 EDT 2009 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


I use CentOS 5.3 i386/x86_64 flavours

If I were you I'd look more into dkms and the dkms-nvidia-packages. Those
are more current, than the driver package in nvidia-x11*.

Or if all else fails, why not get the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
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Re: [CentOS] nvidia dual monitor setup centos howto

2009-06-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:43 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nvidia dual monitor setup centos howto

Which versions of RH or FC correspond reasonably well to
my version of centos?
uname -a
Linux  2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 7 10:35:59 EDT 2009 x86_64
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


 I use CentOS 5.3 i386/x86_64 flavours

A typo erased part of the question (and more googling erased some of
the need for it). I was originally asking what howtos to look at,
since I couldn't find centos howtos. then I found wiki.centos.org.

Is it really of no interest to anyone else which rev of RH corresponds
to which rev of fedora and centos?

RHEL corresponds pretty well with CentOS, ie RHEL 5.3 is CentOS 5.3
basically. Who cares about Fedora anymore when there's CentOS? ;-)


 Or if all else fails, why not get the proprietary Nvidia drivers?

Well, all else did not fail. And they want me to run a script that
does I don't know what, outside the record-keeping that goes with
yum/rpm. Also, nvidia's web page made it sound like I was in for an
editing session on xorg.conf, which is beyond me. Maybe I
misunderstood.

The script with the proprietary Nvidia driver package is rock-solid AFAICT,
never had any problem with it. We used that on this department until I heard
about dkms and the dkms-Nvidia-package. No more need, ever, to rerun the
driver install, as is usually the case with the proprietary driver and a
kernel update. Dkms does all that for you.
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Re: [CentOS] Evolution Question?

2009-06-12 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Jeff
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:40 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Evolution Question?

 I have a CentOS 5.3 Desktop and use Evolution to read mailing lists .
 When i move from one read letter to another(either deleting or clicking
 next  the Message pane flickers. How can i stop this because it is hard
 on my eyes when i have a few emails to read?

 Increase the scan frequency of your monitor maybe? I've seen this in
lists
 generally with thousands of entries and the gfx-card can't keep up. Most
 often upping the scan frequency solved this issue. I've also seen this on
 computers that are a bit, ummm, underpowered. ;-)

 If you have an Nvidia gfx-card, try installing the proprietary drivers,
or
 (recommended) dkms and the dkms-Nvidia*-package.

 YMMV.

Thanks for the reply. My card is a GeForce FX5200 is there an easy way
to set it up as there seem to be a few options? Not sure how to increase
scan frequency? is it dangerous?

Did you install either the dkms-Nvidia-package or the proprietary Nvidia
driver package? Shouldn't matter anyway, as both install a Nvidia X Server
settings-applet. With this you can change resolutions, scan frequencies and
whatnot.

Dangerous? Well, yes. If you set too high a frequency you might damage the
monitor. For flatscreens the most common frequency is 50 (older standard
IIRC) or 60Hz (most common nowadays). CRT's can vary between 60 to 120Hz.
Most common AFAICT is the 75-85Hz range.

Your flickering thing might also be because of a too high set screen
resolution. Start with 1024x768 and 75ish Hz and go up stepwise. See if it
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Re: [CentOS] Evolution Question?

2009-06-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Jeff
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:41 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] Evolution Question?

I have a CentOS 5.3 Desktop and use Evolution to read mailing lists .
When i move from one read letter to another(either deleting or clicking
next  the Message pane flickers. How can i stop this because it is hard
on my eyes when i have a few emails to read?

Increase the scan frequency of your monitor maybe? I've seen this in lists
generally with thousands of entries and the gfx-card can't keep up. Most
often upping the scan frequency solved this issue. I've also seen this on
computers that are a bit, ummm, underpowered. ;-) 

If you have an Nvidia gfx-card, try installing the proprietary drivers, or
(recommended) dkms and the dkms-Nvidia*-package.

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[CentOS] OT: Windows Vista Tablet PC linux alternative

2009-06-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

I have this tabletpc one of my bosses insisted on buying. The machine runs 
Windows Vista TabletPC Edition. As it happens I have a thousand and one 
problems with this POS operating system... I think the hardware is fine 
though, so it's not that.

Would any of you guys know of some kind of linux-based alternative, 
preferrably available on or for CentOS, that can do the same 
hand-writing-on-screen-tricks as Vista Tablet does?

Please excuse this off-topic post, but the frustration with Vista runs high 
over here right now. 8-/ Mail me privately if you feel this shouldn't be 
discussed on-list but want to hint me anyway.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Windows Vista Tablet PC linux alternative

2009-06-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Karanbir Singh
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:04 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Windows Vista Tablet PC linux alternative

 Would any of you guys know of some kind of linux-based alternative,
 preferrably available on or for CentOS, that can do the same
 hand-writing-on-screen-tricks as Vista Tablet does?

cellwriter and xournal are what I've been using for a few years now on
my tc4400, no idea what the windows s/w does, but these two do all that
I need with the tablet

Windows Tablet allows for using handwriting on screen and entering it more
or less automatically to eg Word.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Windows Vista Tablet PC linux alternative

2009-06-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Tosh
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:47 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Windows Vista Tablet PC linux alternative

The mentioned software by Karanbir :
cellwriter, write letter by letter and convert this to text (like the
old palm input)

That sounds about right. You get a textbox to write in and it will dump the
input to whatever editor you set?


xournal, is a good replacement for onenote, but doesn't have the
conversion handwriting to text

Don't know about Onenote. Is that part of the text input in Vista Tablet or
something?


one more thing, if you install CentOS, you will need to add your stylus
manually to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, for more info go to
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Wacom_Serial_Tablet_PC_Stylus
worked for my Toshiba Portégé M400

Nice!

This is a Fujitsu Lifebook T-series. But there is a sticker on it saying
Penabled Wacom. It's probably the same thing as on your Toshiba.

Thanks!

I'll mention this to the boss and see if he's all in or not...
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Re: [CentOS] yum update error this morning

2009-06-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Ralph Angenendt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:22 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] yum update error this morning

 I did a yum clean all as well, but it didn't help. Uninstalling the file
 package, as mentioned in my previous mail, resolved the issue for me.
YMMV
 of course.

The issue with the file package was a completely different one than
the issue with the unsubscriptable object - although yum clean metadata
has solved that one for most people as well.

I did a yum update and got the update list, then installed the packages one
by one. When I got to file, I got the problem described previously. Removing
file package solved it for me. YMMV as said before.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Robert Heller
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:42 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Cc: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

 The firmware you mention, is that used with dkms or something like that?

I'm not sure what the firmware does exactly.  Look in your
/var/log/messages file.  There will be some mention of 'failed to load
firmware' associated with the driver load.  You need to have a
partitular file living in /lib/firmware/ -- the name is wired into the
driver.  The SMC Ez Connect card needed something called isl3890.  I
don't remember where I got this.  My Intel card needed ipw2100-1.3*,
this I got off a site after googling for 'firmware ipw2100' (or
something like that).  Getting the Intel was easy -- there is a web
site with all of the info needed.  Getting the prism firware was a bit
of a hassle.  You might have to unpack a file from the CD that came
with the WiFi card -- this means you need some Windows tool to
unpack/install it someplace and then copy the magic file from where the
Windows installer/unpacker puts it to your Linux box and make sure it
has the proper name.  It is important to get the correct version for
your card.

So Intel seems to be the way to go if you want to make wifi relatively
painless to install and get working on linux?

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Rob Kampen
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:15 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

I have installed and used CentOS on laptops just fine. The last two even
had the internal wireless work without effort. You may need to do some
work to get the wireless functioning okay - NetworkManager seems to help
if you use both wired and wireless.
[...]
I'd just try it and see, one can always grab another distro if CentOS is
really too difficult to get functioning.

IIRC, the farthest I've come is to get the OS to see the card, this was
CentOS 5.2 with some non-standard repos enabled (madwifi, dkms other stuff).
Connecting to my network using WPA2 and having the wifi NIC getting an ip
from dhcp-server are other issues.

I can't really say I know what I'm doing when it comes to wifi on linux,
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of JohnS
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:35 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

 Ok, so what would you guys suggest using on a laptop, if CentOS was not
an
 option? I read in an earlier post where somebody suggested chosing distro
 based on the hardware. Suppose this hardware is a Dell Latitude a few
years
 old, with no built-in wifi, but rather either a Dlink DFE-680TXD or a
3com
 3CRWE154G72.
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What do you mean a few years old? I have 2 Dell Latitude LS's that work
work fine out of the box with CentOS 4.7 and 5.3. They barely meet the
i686 cutoff date.

Not sure how old it is either. I got it from wife's work, as they were to
throw it away; ...not fast enough I salvaged it, and it seems to work
fine with Windows. It wasn't my intention to keep Windows on it though. 
Anyway, I'd say it's somewhere between 3-5 years old. It's a cheapo
plasticky Dell with an Intel P3/1600 and 256-512MB RAM, no built-in wifi,
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of Lanny Marcus
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM
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Probably not the best distro for Laptops,
but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops.

So what's considered to be the best choice for laptops? I understand
mileage may vary and so on, but I think there might maybe be a general
consensus at least?

Unfortunately I haven't had too good an experience with CentOS out-of
the-box-installs with respect to wifi-NICs on laptops, but that's also the
only thing I've been having problems with OTOH.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM
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 Probably not the best distro for Laptops,
 but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops.

 So what's considered to be the best choice for laptops? I understand
 mileage may vary and so on, but I think there might maybe be a general
 consensus at least?
  ^

Not likely on this list. More likely, a preponderance, maybe even a
majority, but I wouldn't be surprised if even those aren't achieved.
BTW, general is redundant with consensus.

I'm sorry. I'm not a native English speaker or writer.

Ok, so what would you guys suggest using on a laptop, if CentOS was not an
option? I read in an earlier post where somebody suggested chosing distro
based on the hardware. Suppose this hardware is a Dell Latitude a few years
old, with no built-in wifi, but rather either a Dlink DFE-680TXD or a 3com
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of Robert Heller
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:52 PM
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The *Intel* WiFi-NIC (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini
PCI Adapter) on my IBM Thinkpad X31 worked mostly out-of-the-box.  I
just needed to download the firmware and I was up. So did the SMC Ez
Connect PCMCIA card I used on my previos laptop (I think it was a
prism54 flavor), also once I snarfed the proper firmware for it.

I think the prism-variety you mention is what's used with the wifi-NIC on a
desktop I have, that I wanted to run MythTV on but haven't had any luck with
yet.

The firmware you mention, is that used with dkms or something like that?
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:27 PM
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 Ok, so what would you guys suggest using on a laptop, if CentOS was not an
 option?

The last time this topic was raised, opinions were all
over the place. If you google for laptop and Centos together with
site:centos (maybe a few more words to narrow the search, like distro,
preferred, etc.) in the google advanced search area (it has a specific
box for the site so you can just enter centos there if you choose to
do so) you'll probably find the previous thread fairly quickly.

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Robert Heller
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:20 PM
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 It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need
to
 keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
 security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
 perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.

Go for it! Did the same thing for my mother a few years ago. She had WinXP
running in Workgroup mode. Somehow she'd managed to aquire a rootkit on her
computer. After a few hours trying to get rid of it, I gave up, took her
computer home to my place and installed Fedora Core 5. She's now at CentOS
5.3 and happily surfing along. She's most happy with Evolution, it works
very well with for her.


Rather than do auto updates (sometimes there are conflicts or other
issues needing *intellegent* intervention -- the recent update from
CentOS 5.2 to 5.3 required that glibc be updated before the rest of the
updates for example), maybe you should schedule a regular visit to this
fellow.

I second that.

That's how I solved updates for the beloved mother, by enabling
yum-updatesd. Yum-cron and yum-updateobboot are both disabled, but may be
useful for simple systems. Minor version updates I do manually for her, and
since I visit her every once in a while I also check up her computer. For
the last three or four years CentOS has been doing very well for her.
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Frank Cox
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Cc: Anne Wilson
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

 It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need
to
 keep it securely patched.  I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install
 security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications
 perhaps auto-installing every update would be good enough.

yum-updatesd

Isn't that only the notifier thing in the panel?

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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Lanny Marcus
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:28 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
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Possibly the best way is for the updates to be setup to run
automatically and in the rare (but possible) event that something goes
awry, then the user call for on site help, to straighten it out. The
majority of the updates work properly, without any intervention, but
once in awhile

Or uif the router supports that function, set up a port forwarding rule to 
allow ssh connections from a particular ip (yours), which you can use to 
remote update the machine. That's what I used for my mother for years, never 
had any problems, that is until her D-link router gave up, and I bought her a 
new low budget router that turned out not to support port forwarding...

Of course, should stuff go totally pear-shaped while updating remotely, you're 
pretty much SOL anyway, and a personal visit in person is needed. It works if 
you're living in the same town or out-of-town, but close-ish.
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Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:34 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Cc: Anne Wilson
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

As much as I like CentOS, I tend to agree with the other posts. I don't
think
it is the right distro for non techies.
I set up my in-laws with Linux Mint (running KDE, of course) and they could
even handle installing the codecs and other non OSS stuff. Mint is a nice
distro based on Ubuntu.

Nonsense! Just use the Redmond theme with gnome, and the user'll be non the
wiser. It's much less scarier that way, from the end-user's perspective.
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Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Les Mikesell
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:24 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

Note that it is also possible to set up VMware and perhaps virtualbox to
be able to boot the alternate OS as a virtual machine so you can run
both at once if you like.   If you don't have the enterprise-licensed
version of windows you might need to run it as the host, though.
Otherwise it will want to be re-licensed every time you switch between
virtual and physical boots and it sees different hardware.  With Vmware
you have to install the (free) server version to do the setup, although
you can later remove it and use the player version at runtime if you prefer.

Thanks for the hint, but it won't work for us, we need the stand-alone 
machines for a course-lab. Each student working at one machine kind of 
scenario, though the idea is interesting in order to eliminate dual-booting. 
Always booting linux and having Windows running in Xen or something at the 
same time sound appealing actually. I'll see if this is feasible with the 
course-admins.

Anyway, we have volume licenses for Windows, so no need for re-activation or 
anything.

Update: Just spoke to the course-admin a quickie. He saw no reason to not run 
Windows virtual machines on a linux box. I'll look into this after the course 
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Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:38 PM
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 * Install a new hd and jumper it as primary master. Linux hd should
 consequently be set as primary slave. Install WinXP. I've ghosted the

I think for maximum performance, if you have a secondary channel, put
the linux disk on that channel, rather than primary channel.

The flat cables won't reach. 8-}
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Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-19 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

 I think for maximum performance, if you have a secondary channel, put
 the linux disk on that channel, rather than primary channel.

 The flat cables won't reach. 8-}

*chuckle*

Yeah, I know it sounds pretty daft to fail on such a lo-tech issue... But
there it is. ;-)


I can't tell you how many times I've found myself in that situation...
*after* I installed the drive and *then* tried to attach the cables.
This was back when a whole bunch of screws were involved.

When the cables were only 40 conductor I bought a whole roll and a bunch
of connectors and made my own as needed. Now that stuff is 80 wires, I
don't do that. Since I use full towers, this was a problem. I searched
on-line and found some quality extended ones, but they were fairly
expensive. For your use, they may not be worth it. Or budgets may
intrude, etc.

Nah, not worth all the extra trouble to optimise with different channels,
better cables and whatnot, the performance isn't a problem anyway. My main
concern, and goal, is general stability.


Anyway, glad your setup is working now.

Well, my new run through the documented procedures totally failed for some
reason... I need to retrace the steps I took and see where it went wrong and
why. 8-/ 

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Re: [CentOS] Solved: Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-18 Thread Sorin Srbu

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Sorin Srbu
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:48 AM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

Thanks for the confirmation all. I'll try switching the master/slave
settings.

Luckily I'm still at the testing phase, to see how things'll go smoothest,
before I go live so to speak.

First test machine finished after some serious tinkering, will probably need
to do another test install according to the documentation I made during the
testing. The machine now boots both CentOS and WinXP and all seems fine.

Below are the steps I took:

* Disconnect linux hd.

* Install a new hd and jumper it as primary master. Linux hd should
consequently be set as primary slave. Install WinXP. I've ghosted the
Workgroup install with g4u, so next deployment should be fairly quick. Also
wrote zeroes to all empty areas on the Windows hd to save space at ghosting.

* Connect linux hd.

* Boot from cd1 with appropriate CentOS release and run linux rescue.

* At prompt, run grub-install --recheck /dev/hda.

* At prompt run grub.

* Enter root (hd1,0). This'll install grub to second hd on MBR, the one with
CentOS on it, if my information is correct.

* Enter setup (hd1).

* Enter quit and reboot.

* Boot CentOS and check /etc/grub.conf.

* Boot Windows and check whatever needs to be checked.

* Done.


The nice thing here is that I can use the same IP for both installs. Being
continually low on available IP's for this department, this is super!

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Re: [CentOS] Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-15 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Robert Heller
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:03 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Cc: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

  The most curious thing happened now, I get a blank screen after the
Windows
  installer screen saying something about Setting up install
procedure...
  just at the beginning. That is to say, this happens only if the hd with
  CentOS is connected to power. If I disconnect the power connector to
the
  CentOS drive, the Windows installer happily goes on.
 
  Is this to be expected, that Windows won't install if it sees a hd with
  another OS as master?

 It's a known issue - I've seen it affecting other distro's (Fedora in my
 case). It's a Windows XP thing, not specific to the distro, and only
 affects WinXP afaik (doesn't affect Win2K, couldn't care less about
 Vista). I first came across it trying to install WinXP on a system that
 had previously had Fedora on it and the installer hangs at a black
 screen. The solution is to do as you've done and disconnect the drive.

In the OP's case, this would
mean making the disk with Linux installed the 'slave' (/dev/hdb) and
the new disk (for MS-Windows) the 'master' (/dev/hda).  The OP would
then have to boot up with a rescue disk to fix the /etc/fstab file
(unless it uses labeled file systems) and re-install the boot loader.

Thanks for the confirmation all. I'll try switching the master/slave
settings. 

Luckily I'm still at the testing phase, to see how things'll go smoothest,
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Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Kaplan, Andrew H.
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:24 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

I wanted to do a netinstall of the 5.3 release, and the source that I had
in mind was
either an ftp or http site.
When going through this procedure, am I going to download the .iso images
from one
of the mirror sites or
is/are there a directory(ies) at another site(s) that I should specify as
the source of
the files? Thanks.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.chrisgountanis.com/technical/45-centos-netinstall.html
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[CentOS] Dual-booting CentOS and WinXP

2009-05-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

You know how I asked about procedures to build a dual-boot system with
CentOS and WinXP a while ago? Well, I I've begun with a test machine.

What I had from start was a working CentOS 5.3 32b system. What I did was to
just add another empty drive configured as slave and then boot from the
Windows install cd.

The most curious thing happened now, I get a blank screen after the Windows
installer screen saying something about Setting up install procedure...
just at the beginning. That is to say, this happens only if the hd with
CentOS is connected to power. If I disconnect the power connector to the
CentOS drive, the Windows installer happily goes on.

Is this to be expected, that Windows won't install if it sees a hd with
another OS as master?

Thanks for any hints.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 nVidia GeForce 7300GS resolution problem

2009-05-12 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:37 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 nVidia GeForce 7300GS resolution problem

 The monitor is OK as it's attached via a KVM switch to another machine -
 also with an nVidia card - and it displays perfectly on that.

Sometime the OS can't read the monitor properly and doesn't set it up
accordingly. Try connecting the monitor directly to your KVM-switch and let
the OS rescan it. After, connect it back to the switch. Or just force the
correct resolution.

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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-22 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of JohnS
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:42 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
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 It's either Aopen or Asus. Can't tell just yet, there's a course going on
 now on the computers. 8-)

 Would you mind elaborating on the killing part?
-

If the board is an ASUS Press F8 during POST. That will then give you a
Selection of Devices.

Didn't follow your train of thought before. I do now. Thanks for clarifying. 
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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
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Of JohnS
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:39 PM
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 Basically, what would I need to change in the how-to from apcmag.com
above??
 Thanks for any pointers.

Just one question for you.. What brand of mother board do you have?
There is a better way than trying to kill an OS via Grub or any boot
loader via software.

It's either Aopen or Asus. Can't tell just yet, there's a course going on
now on the computers. 8-)

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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:33 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

Sorin Srbu wrote on Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:35:40 +0200:

 Googled some more. Realised /boot/grub/menu.lst *is* /etc/grub.conf...
Duh!

You want to change /boot/grub/grub.conf, nothing else !

I've got to read properly... Thx for the headsup.


 Also some people say it's better to have Windows installed to the first
 harddrive and the first partition (so that C: is the where it should be
on
 1st hd/1st partition).

Doesn't matter.

Apparantely Windows can bork up after a while if the system files aren't on
C:. I was thinking the Windows installer will see the linux partitions and
try to name them C: and D: etc, thus Windows will be installed on E: or F:,
which might not go down well with some programs.


 Would I be better off disconnecting the drive containing CentOS and
 reconnect it when I'm done installing Windows. Then boot with CentOS
rescue
 and reinstall grub to the Windows-hd MBR?

Why? If you want to put them on separate *hardware* then you don't have to
reinstall anything. Just make sure that the CentOS drive is the first boot
drive.

Windows drive numbering, see above. This way Windows doesn't see linux at
all.

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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Guy Boisvert
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:04 PM
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As for Winblows, it always wipes the boot record and replace with its
own crap.  No problem, let Winblows install itself and after everything
is done, just re-install GAG, configure the menu items and you're all set.

Isn't reinstalling GAG the same thing as reinstalling grub. What's the
incentive so to speak? Is GAG so much better, or just easier to work with
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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
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Behalf
Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:16 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

 Generally speaking, which one is the easiest and/or safest if time is an
issue
 and you want to things fast and streamlined doing this, grub-install or
backup
 and restore MBR. That is assuming I don't screw up when I do either and
 mistype or something.

 Or are both things different sides of the same coin kinda' thing?

I think I prefer the grub-install way because it's easier to remember what
you
have to do and harder to mistype. Using dd works 100%, though, if done
correctly.
Even if there is something wrong with grub-install or grub in the live
disk, dd
is hardly affected. But, as I said, if you use two disks and pull the first
out
you do not have to reinstall/restore the MBR anyway.

Gotcha'. Thanks.


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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:31 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

 install windows xp then install easyBCD and make the dual boot work
without
 changing any file on any OS.

Of course you change files. But it works as well, yes, just checked it out.
I
wasn't aware of this, although I have EasyBCD already installed on my
Windows
7 netbook. However, if you do it this way you have to rely on the BCD boot
loader and the Vista partition.
I would recommend it if you use the Linux OS only irregularly. If it is
your
main system using only the Linux-native boot loader surely is recommended.

I'm not sure, but I think you will also need to have grub installed to the
Linux partition. So, if you installed it on the MBR it may fail to boot.

I'm not sure what the plans are for these course-computers. I know though
that linux will be used most of the time though, if irregularly. Maybe grub
is better anyway. At least I'm more familiar with than the other
bootloaders, sort of.. 8-}


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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of David G. Miller
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:33 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

Windows (just like DOS) assigns drive
letters to partitions in drive number order starting with the primary
partitions and then moving on to the extended partitions.  The bottom
line is that you want the first Windows partition on the non-CentOS
drive to get assigned drive letter C: when Windows boots.  As long as
Windows doesn't recognize the partition type (e.g., ext3), no drive
letter gets assigned.

Nice, I think this made my day! 8-D Thanks.

Wasn't sure how the drive lettering happens with the Windows installer.
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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Lanny Marcus
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:06 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

There is a
web page on the CentOS Wiki about how to reinstall GRUB, if it gets
trashed or is overridden when installing another OS.Lanny

Didn't see the forest for all the trees... Will check the wiki too. Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-17 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of MHR
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:18 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

I've never seen this problem at all - running AMD 64x2 7750, 4Gb
memory with GEForce 7200gs card, nvidia driver
nvidia-x11-drv-173.08-1.beta.el5.rf.x86_64 (from rpmforge - duh).
I've used a 19 CRT, 17 1280x1024 flat panel and, currently, 22
1680x1050 flat panel (Emprex - cheap, but works great).

I tried the LG nvidia driver last year some time, but I decided I'd
rather have the rpmforge working dkms driver than the LG, even though
it's a beta driver.  When I upgraded to 5.3, that was the first time
the driver was actually rebuilt for the kernel since 5.0.

I've mainly seen the lines on my test machines, that more or less get wiped
once or twice a week anyway. Those computers have a Geforce 6200-card, and
the Amd Classic/XP 2000+ cpu. 

With Intel I've only seen this happen on a fairly new i7 and a flashy
Geforce XGL 260 IIRC, this was solved with installing the newest proprietary
driver (v180.44) from Nvidia. 

These latter machines are only five, so a manual install is doable.  It's
the other older ones we have for the course lab that I'd like to use with
dkms. For most part it works though, and works well. I might just let the
problem machines be and use the working ones primarily. The number of
students taking this course yearly varies wildly anyway. Sometimes we have
computers to spare, sometimes not... I'll just leave it for now.

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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of JohnS
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

No none of that is hardware issues. It is issues with the Nvidia Driver
it self.

Some or all of those issues can be solved by Downgrading the driver it
self. All this is in the documentation and are known problems on both
Linux and Windows.

I've tried a few different versions of the proprietary driver with no
effect. IIRC even the nv driver gives me these problems. Oh, well, I'll
try some more versions. Maybe I'm lucky. ;-)
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[CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all,

I'd like to deploy a solution with dual-booting systems where CentOS 5.3 is 
already installed and WinXP will be installed to a separate disk.

I found 
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm?page=1
 
and it seems straight forward enough, although the description is for Ubuntu.

The problem as I see it, is that the how-to differs from how CentOS looks in 
/etc/grub.conf and the boot-loader in Ubuntu with respect to making grub work 
again after the Windows install.

I found Tldp.org mentioning dual-boot plenty, but most or all articles listed 
are using lilo as a boot-loader, which seems a bit obsolete and besides I 
can't quite translate the instructions from lilo to grub. 8-/

Basically, what would I need to change in the how-to from apcmag.com above?? 
Thanks for any pointers.
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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Sorin Srbu
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:09 PM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

I'd like to deploy a solution with dual-booting systems where CentOS 5.3 is
already installed and WinXP will be installed to a separate disk.

I found
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_fir
st.htm?page=1
and it seems straight forward enough, although the description is for
Ubuntu.

The problem as I see it, is that the how-to differs from how CentOS looks
in
/etc/grub.conf and the boot-loader in Ubuntu with respect to making grub
work
again after the Windows install.

Googled some more. Realised /boot/grub/menu.lst *is* /etc/grub.conf... Duh!

Also some people say it's better to have Windows installed to the first
harddrive and the first partition (so that C: is the where it should be on
1st hd/1st partition). 

Would I be better off disconnecting the drive containing CentOS and
reconnect it when I'm done installing Windows. Then boot with CentOS rescue
and reinstall grub to the Windows-hd MBR?


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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Guy Boisvert
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:45 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

As for Winblows, it always wipes the boot record and replace with its
own crap.  No problem, let Winblows install itself and after everything
is done, just re-install GAG, configure the menu items and you're all set.

I've had nothing but good results with dual-boot *if* Windows is installed
first and then add linux. The other way around is a first for me.

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Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

2009-04-16 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:32 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dual-boot with WinXP, CentOS already installed

Instead of using grub-install you can backup the mbr before the installation
and then restore it afterwards. You can easily get bad results from that if
you mistype, though.

Generally speaking, which one is the easiest and/or safest if time is an issue 
and you want to things fast and streamlined doing this, grub-install or backup 
and restore MBR. That is assuming I don't screw up when I do either and 
mistype or something.

Or are both things different sides of the same coin kinda' thing?
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-15 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Michael A. Peters
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:57 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

 Strangely enough, only the systems running an Amd cpu gives the screen
 artefacts. Go figure...

What the artifacts?
I switched to the DKMS module in rpmforge and am running an AMD CPU.
Only think I've noticed is a weird issue with the cursor in thunderbird,
I don't know if that is nvidia related or not though. It is annoying and
I don't recall it being there before I updated the driver.

Diagonal thin black lines originating from upper left corner for starters.
Then if I open a gui, whatever sort, that window gets those lines too. Menus
are unreadable because of this, but slightly more readable if I move the
mouse pointer over the menu entry. The lines tend to go away for a short
while if I log off and log on again. Weird thing is that the lines are
always diagonal and tend to always originate from the upper left corner of
whatever window.

This is with gnome mind you, and *supposedly* this one is the most stable of
all the desktop environments. Haven't tried with KDE and xfce. Can't tell
for sure if it's gnome or the Nvidia drivers specifically, but I'm leaning
towards the drivers.

It's not a hardware issue, as I've run rhel3 on the same machines w/o any
artifacts.

The hardware's two-three year old Asus mobo with a single-core AMD x64 and a
rather feisty Nvidia Quadra gfx card. Don't have the exact details right
now, but it should give a hint or two. All the P4-machines, as well as the
i7-boxes, seem to work fine with dkms.
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-15 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Alfred von Campe
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:51 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

FWIW, I don't use DKMS but this homegrown script instead.  I put
whatever version of the driver I want to deploy (currently NVIDIA-
Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run) in a network accessible location and
create a link named NVIDIA-Linux-x86-latest to it.  The script then
handles the rest.

You still need to be root to do this, right? Seems nifty in any case.
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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Scott Silva
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:19 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

on 4-6-2009 5:55 AM Sorin Srbu spake the following:
 I got the DKMS-system working and now have the Nvidia-drivers v173.08
 installed (using rpmforge as suggested previously). Unfortunately this
 particular driver version gives me screen artifacts so as to make the 
 screen
 more or less unreadable.

You could always try and make a newer version yourself using the old one as a
template. Here is some help;

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6896

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/power/1q04-ler.pdf

http://linux.dell.com/dkms/dkms-ols2004.pdf

Ok, thanks. I'll see if I can some sense of the instructions. 8-)

Strangely enough, only the systems running an Amd cpu gives the screen 
artefacts. Go figure...


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Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

2009-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Akemi Yagi
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:44 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] DKMS and new(er) Nvidia-drivers

 My question is who updates those drivers, as the v173.08 Nvidia drivers
are
 now almost a year old? Would there be any other good repo with more
current
 drivers suitable for use with DKMS and CentOS?

You might want to ask for a newer version on the rpmforge mailing list:

http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/suggest

I've been lurking there for a while, working up the nerve to ask. 8-}


 You could always try and make a newer version yourself using the old one
as a
 template. Here is some help;

There is a CentOS wiki how to build kernel modules (see section 2 for
DKMS):

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/BuildingKernelModules

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Re: [CentOS] Raid1 on CentOS 5.x 64bit

2009-04-14 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Fabian Arrotin
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:23 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Raid1 on CentOS 5.x 64bit

Matt wrote:
 Does anyone know of a howto on setting up raid1 on CentOS 5.x 64 bit?

hmmm, the same way as for i386 ? ...
You can do that during setup (with anaconda)
You can also do that after machine is installed, but that's a bit tricky

I found the below guide to be very helpful.

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch26_:_Linux
_Software_RAID

YMMV though, as this is focused on software-raids. Hardware raids are
usually simpler to setup with the raid-card's built-in software at boot.

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Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders

2009-04-07 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Karanbir Singh
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:32 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders

What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the
fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.

Make the announcement stand out more on centos.org maybe? Like a big banner 
just under the Home/Donate/Information etc-menu.
That is to say, just a short blurb about the new release and a bigger 
font 
making use of a bold typeface when typing new centos 5.3 release and linking 
to the actual announcement further below.
In fact, IMHO, I think the release announcement should be nearer or in 
the 
top of the page, or at least in the uppermost left column. Most read from left 
to right and start from the top. 8-}

While he first page is very informational, it's not a wonder of readability. 
No offence to the webmaster(s).

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Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders

2009-04-07 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Joseph L. Casale
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:41 PM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders

What happens to their 5.2 the first time they use yum?

Some people don't update after install. Some people don't know they *should*
update after install the first they do. Some firewall the whole thing and
don't let anything in, or let just the local network in. Some don't update
because certification issues. The spectrum is very wide indeed.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John R Pierce
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:38 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

 here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
 came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
 in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.



geez, makes me wonder if I should even bother to leave mine running with
a 50kbyte/sec uplink ca (thats about 500kbps)...   if I raise the cap
much higher, it seriously throttles my home network (6Mbps in, 700k
out)... I know, I know, I should implement some form of QoS or packet
prioritization at my firewall.

Every little stream helps when using bittorrent, even at 50kbps upstream, so
keep seeding! ;-)

I think my ISP at home has done something with regard to p2p. I can't seed
at home anymore for some reason... 8-/
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Robert Spangler
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:42 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

  If your torrent has distributed hash table [DHT] capability, I suggest
that
  you also use that feature.

So what is everyone using for their torrent?
What is the best?

Ask ten people and you get ten answers. 8-) Me, I prefer Azureus.

In Sweden p2p has gotten a bad name (Pirate Bay anyone?). People flinch when
I say I fileshare at work... Seems like all p2p is bad p2p here, which might
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Michael A. Peters
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:56 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

 I think my ISP at home has done something with regard to p2p. I can't
seed
 at home anymore for some reason... 8-/

Mine limits me to 40k up - leave it running long enough though, and it
is easy to give back several times what you took.

As far as home networks, I found that when I was running NAT on Linux
(RH8 through FC2 days) - bt really screwed up my home network. However,
when using hardware routers, even the cheap consumer kind (Linksys) the
home network is fine. I think bt is very hard on software routing.

I use Smoothwall as a router/firewall appliance at home. It has worked fine
before. Besides, I seed from Windows XP at home. Before, while seeding
worked at home, I capped at approx 50kbps using Smoothie 's QoS-features and
it worked like a charm.

But yes, bt *is* giving me grief at work where I'm trying to set up a CentOS
5.3 seeding machine with iptables. The university helpdesk told me they use
tcp established-filters for inside machines going out and blocks most
everything from incoming. The normal way I guess. And it does work from
Windows, but linux - no... 8-/

I've used the below as a base for setting this up, but I'm not there quite
yet.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-open-bittorrent-tcp-ports-6881-
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Timo Schoeler
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:42 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

just installed their NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.44-pkg2 driver. I had it
running on my CentOS 5.2 x64 machine, and I'm happily surprised that it
builds and runs okay on 5.3 also.

Me too, but why shouldn't it? 

We've rarely had any problems with Nvidia's proprietary drivers with CentOS,
or RHEL for that matter. YMMV of course, just curious on what kind of
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:26 AM
To: CentOS General List
Subject: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

For those who may forget, usin torrents to download and share the new
images will get you faster downloads (if enough folks participate) if
you have a fat pipe and alleviate the load on the CentOS servers.

I have a chubby pipe (~ 1.2MB/sec) and got the stuff really quickly
earlier today.

If your torrent has distributed hash table capability, I suggest that
you also use that feature.

Sharing as fast as I can, never seen this kind of activity before, it's like a 
shark feeding frenzy... The CentOS-5.3-x86_64-bin-DVD torrent I'm seeding says 
the share ratio is 40928, and rapidly increasing. That can't possibly be 
right, can it??

Have to cap the upload speed to 25kBps during work hours, or my computer would 
be unusable. Maybe I should move this seeding to a CentOS-machine instead...

DHT is enabled over here as well.
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
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Of Michael A. Peters
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

I suppose I should move to the new way that relinks it automagically
when new kernel is released, I don't know - I'm fine with the kernel
version specific kmod- way.

Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful mechanism to
me.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of William L. Maltby
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:47 PM
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For those who are insatiably curious,

  http://torrent.centos.org:6969/

It gets really interesting at certain times.

According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of TB-amounts
everyday, at least I don't.
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Michael A. Peters
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

 I suppose I should move to the new way that relinks it automagically
 when new kernel is released, I don't know - I'm fine with the kernel
 version specific kmod- way.

 Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful mechanism
to
 me.

I don't know too much about it - but I believe it is what some of the
3rd party repos have moved do.

Ok, google it is, but what do I search for? I really am clueless as to what
this thing is...

Automagic doesn't quite feel like what I want to search for. automatic
kernel link graphics driver or some such? 
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Steve Huff
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3


On Apr 2, 2009, at 3:06 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 Automagically? Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a useful
 mechanism to
 me.

it's very useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support

$ man dkms
$ sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install nvidia-x11-drv
$ sudo reboot
...
profit!

once you have done this, DKMS will rebuild the nvidia driver module
for you the first time you boot a new kernel.  provided the module
builds without problems, you won't have to think about it any more.

Nice, thanks! I'll try this out on a machine.

On a related sidetrack; is there any difference between the proprietary 
Nvidia-drivers and the ones from eg rpmforge?   Specifically, we use the 
proprietary Nvidia drivers on our dozen or so course computers because they 
support stereo-3D. When our former *nix-admin set this up years ago, there 
weren't anything else to use than the proprietary drivers. Hence my question.
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Karanbir Singh
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:07 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

Sorin Srbu wrote:
 According to wifey, I'm one of those insatiably curious ones. ;-) Anyway,
 that's a lot of data being shuffled! You don't see that kind of
TB-amounts
 everyday, at least I don't.

here is a bit more trivia for those interested: the 4 main 'seeds' that
came up were each running with 100mbps open uplinks. Atleast one person
in the early stages was running at 200 odd mbps.

That's dedication... I decap my bt-client after work hours (from 1700hrs to
0700 weekdays, and full speed continuesly over the weekends). I wonder if
the ridiculously high 40k-share ratio Azureus reports here has something to
do with this. Hmm...
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Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:32 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Nvidia driver on CentOS 5.3

Sorin Srbu wrote:
 On a related sidetrack; is there any difference between the proprietary
 Nvidia-drivers and the ones from eg rpmforge?Specifically, we use
the
 proprietary Nvidia drivers on our dozen or so course computers because
they
 support stereo-3D. When our former *nix-admin set this up years ago,
there
 weren't anything else to use than the proprietary drivers. Hence my
question.

the rpmforge driver *is* the proprietary nvidia driver. It's just nicely
packaged in an rpm, with dkms for rebuilding when you get a new kernel.
It's also not the latest version, which may or may not be a problem for
you. It's working well enough for a lot of people, but YMMV.

Thx, I'm trouble-shooting now. Dkms autoinstaller something-or-other didn't
go down too well. Looks promising though. 8-)
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Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

2009-04-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Karanbir Singh
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:34 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Don't forget to use torrents for your downloads!

Sorin Srbu wrote:
 That's dedication... I decap my bt-client after work hours (from 1700hrs
to
 0700 weekdays, and full speed continuesly over the weekends). I wonder if
 the ridiculously high 40k-share ratio Azureus reports here has something
to
 do with this. Hmm...

the machines seeding at those high 100mbps rates are all hosted in DC's
with good peerings all around - and we've spoken with the hosting
companies about what these machines are doing!

Guess everybody was really tweaked to get the stuff really fast. ;-D

Nice go though. I got my copies pretty fast too. It was well worth the wait.
;-)
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Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Gilbert Sebenste
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:44 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Florin Andrei wrote:

 On one mirror that I tried, at least.

 So, is it live yet? :-)

Almost. Another several more hours before they all sync, and then we're
good to go.

Really?? Excellent, you rock guys!


BTW, how does this work? If I want to go from 5.2 to 5.3, can I just
type yum upgrade? If so, what /etc/yum.repos.d entry has to be active
for that?

Minor version upgrades (eg 5.2  5.3): yum update
Major version upgrades (eg 5.9  6.0): save conf-files, /home etc first, then 
complete reinstall with new release.

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Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Michael A. Peters
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

Sorin Srbu wrote:

 Minor version upgrades (eg 5.2  5.3): yum update

Not sure it matters but I usually do

yum update yum rpm
yum clean all
yum update

I heard elsewhere that there can be problems if you do not update glibc
before updating the rest of the OS. I heard that after two of my boxes
were already updated the above way and they didn't experience any
issues, so maybe it was bogus, but it certainly can't hurt to do

yum update glibc

first.

remote server, be sure to do it inside of screen.

I was a bit hasty there and didn't note the glibc needed to be updated
first. 

On another note, on a few of my systems, yum didn't pick up the new packages
unless I did a yum clean all first.

Yum upgrade or yum update? What's the take on that one here on the list?


Both seem to work. Superficially I don't see anything fishy doing either. Is
it one of those zen-things the linux-community seems to be so much into? ;-)
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[CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi,

Is the tracker for the 5.3-release working properly?

The only torrent I see actually downloading is CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-1to6. The
other three for the i386 DVD and ditto for x86_64 (cd+dvd) are just sitting
there. The availability and the number of connected peers in the swarm for
each torrent is rather high though.

Do torrent downloads work from a single tracker at centos.org, or are those
individual trackers depending on what mirror you download the torrent-file
from?

I've seen this behavior ever since CentOS v5.0.

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Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John R Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:23 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

 Is the tracker for the 5.3-release working properly?

 The only torrent I see actually downloading is CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-1to6.
The
 other three for the i386 DVD and ditto for x86_64 (cd+dvd) are just
sitting
 there. The availability and the number of connected peers in the swarm
for
 each torrent is rather high though.


I just started the two DVD torrents, x86_64 and i386, using the links in
the announcement email from this evening, and both are running along as
fast as my wires will run.

both of these two appear to be using
http://torrent.centos.org:6969/announce as their primary tracker, and
both [DHT], local peer discovery and peer exchange protocols are happy
too.  I've bandwidth limited my torrent to 400kbyte/s in, 50kbyte/s out
and I'm sseeing just about exactly that (my ADSL is good for peak
500-600kbyte/sec in and 70kbyte/sec out, so if I don't restrict it, the
torrent activity just about shuts down my network)

Thanks for the info. Checked the tracker in my torrent-client, and it's the
same as yours. Seems I have a possible firewall-issue on my hands here.
OTOH, it's weird, as the one torrent works fine. Strange...

Anyway, I've contacted the university-wide helpdesk for a possible solution.

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John Doe
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?


 Thanks for the info. Checked the tracker in my torrent-client, and it's
the
 same as yours. Seems I have a possible firewall-issue on my hands here.
 OTOH, it's weird, as the one torrent works fine. Strange...

Maybe this would help:
http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/#ports

It does somewhat, thx.

I just now noticed that the Openoffice3 and a CenOS 5.2 torrent seed/upload
started again. So it seems both upload and download is actually working as
it should.

The question still stands on why only the one 5.3 download works though. It
*might* be the thing that John R Pierce said previously about some
torrent-clients nedding and using one torrent per port only. In my case
that'd be port 80 I guess. If so, that's a problem with my Azureus-client
and probably not something that should be discussed on this list, unless the
moderators agree this is relevant in sharing the new CentOS-releases over
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Timo Neuvonen
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:40 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

In turn, I can see the release announcement, but no packages :-(

A few more hours won't hurt me, but I'd be curious to know if I can force
yum to use certain mirror that seem to be in sync.
I'm located in Finland, and the two local mirros have ages of 1.8 and 1.9
days now:
http://mirror-status.centos.org/
However, I can see plenty of other mirrors in nearby countries that are 3-4
hours old only.

Did you try a yum clean all? 

It might also help using that yum fastest mirror plugin too. YMMV.
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[CentOS] Thanks to CentOS-devs

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
I've now upgraded a server and a handful of clients with CentOS 5.2 i386. All 
is spiffy and works really good! Like the new theme too.

Thanks guys, good work! It was well worth the wait.
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Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of John R Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:23 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

Sorin Srbu wrote:
 Thanks for the info. Checked the tracker in my torrent-client, and it's
the
 same as yours. Seems I have a possible firewall-issue on my hands here.
 OTOH, it's weird, as the one torrent works fine. Strange...

 Anyway, I've contacted the university-wide helpdesk for a possible
solution.


Torrent clients perform best if they can use a port which is reachable
from outside.  it can be any port whatsoever, as the port your client is
using is announced via the trackers.

some torrent clients seem to require a different port for each torrent,
while others can handle multiple torrents concurrently with a single
port.  my favorite client is the MS Windows only uTorrent, 2nd favorite
is the portable java based Azureus.

I've enabled http-seeding on port 80. Don't know for sure if this works
and/or helpt anything, but since this port is probably the only one open to
the outside at our university it might work. For incoming connections my
client is set to the random port number 21815 which is likely blocked and
outside of my permission to allow open.

I use Azureus in WinXP for practical reasons, FWIW. Torrents are for me
something of a hocus-pocus thing. Either it works or not...
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Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly? Solved

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Sorin Srbu
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:03 PM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Torrent tracker for CentOS v5.3 working properly?

I just now noticed that the Openoffice3 and a CenOS 5.2 torrent seed/upload
started again. So it seems both upload and download is actually working as
it should.

The question still stands on why only the one 5.3 download works though. It
*might* be the thing that John R Pierce said previously about some
torrent-clients nedding and using one torrent per port only. In my case
that'd be port 80 I guess. If so, that's a problem with my Azureus-client
and probably not something that should be discussed on this list, unless
the
moderators agree this is relevant in sharing the new CentOS-releases over
bittorrent. 8-)

Problem seems to have been solved.

I downloaded the 32/64b dvd and cd isos using ftp and added them to my
bt-client. Now it's uploading like crazy. All is fine.


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Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Mike A. Harris
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:31 AM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

I did the update by yum -y update and for whatever reasons did not run
into any issues with glibc.  I just read about the problem for the first
time in this thread.  Looks like it hits some people and not others
perhaps.  I haven't noticed any issues so far at least.

I've now updated a machine with CentOS v5.3 x86_64. On this first test, the
glibc didn't update at all and threw up an dependency error. Running yum
update; no yum clean all run first, upgraded everything with no errors. Go
figure.

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Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

2009-04-01 Thread Sorin Srbu
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf
Of Christian Wahlgren
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:37 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] I see 5.3 ISO images on the mirrors

2009/4/1 Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se:
 I've now updated a machine with CentOS v5.3 x86_64. On this first test,
the
 glibc didn't update at all and threw up an dependency error. Running yum
 update; no yum clean all run first, upgraded everything with no errors.
Go
 figure.

I had the same problem with dependencies. I had to do
# yum update glibc glibc-devel

But when I looked in the Release Notes for CentOS-5.3, it doesn't mention
yum update glibc at all, so maybe that upstream bug has been solved
for CentOS-5.3?

Maybe, dunno'. At least it works with yum update. I could reproduce this
on all x64-machines I've got here. I don't see any problems though. All
seems to work fine.


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