Re: [CentOS-docs] TipsAndTricks/CentOSUpgradeTool unaviliable

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 08/01/2019 15:47, Pavel Drankov wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> It seems that https://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/CentOSUpgradeTool
> is no longer available. Can you help me with reaching an older
> version? Where I can find the article history?

It's not available as the tool has not worked for an eternity and no-one
has yet managed to work out how to make it work. Since the resulting
systems on which it's run then suffer from a variety of problems from
"the tool doesn't even let me start" all the way through to "I migrated
your system and killed it, I do hope you had a backup", it was removed
for safety reasons.

Do not attempt to run it, it WILL break things. If you are lucky it will
break before it even does anything at all. If you are unlucky then it
will let you do stuff and in the process it will break the system so
thoroughly that it will need days of remedial work done to resurrect it.

If you are volunteering to fix it and make it work then start from the
RHEL packages that are in git.centos.org and work out how to patch those
to work on CentOS. None of the more recent versions from RHEL have been
fixed to work with CentOS.

Trevor
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Re: [CentOS-docs] reference page for Apache test page & the project

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 23/06/18 21:03, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 04:58:21PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
>> * Is there a better page I can point at?
> 'Better' is quite subjective; however this all goes back to 
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20060523223519/https://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
>
> and is as good of a reference as any.
>
> I would urge someone to scrape the gist of that thread and preserve it
> on wiki.c.o somewhere.
>
> If no one else does I will do it later today or tomorrow when I have a
> bit of time and motivation.

You know, perhaps this is approaching this from the wrong direction.
Maybe the correct solution would be to change that welcome page to be
more explicit about what it is and why it's there so the question
doesn't arise in the first place. It *is* better than it used to be but
it could be better. If we just move the "The CentOS Project has nothing
to do with this website or its content, it just provides the software
that makes the website run." up to immediately after the "This server
powered by CentOS" under the Testing 123... heading.

Does the attached patch make it more clear more easily? It gets the
essential message into the top paragrpah which is the one that gets
read. Having it off the bottom of the page where it resides in the
current version means you're reliant on people advancing to the next page.

Trevor
--- /usr/share/httpd/noindex/index.html.orig	2014-10-16 14:20:58.0 +0100
+++ /usr/share/httpd/noindex/index.html	2018-06-23 21:13:18.542223147 +0100
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@
   
 
	  Testing 123..
-  		This page is used to test the proper operation of the http://apache.org;>Apache HTTP server after it has been installed. If you can read this page it means that this site is working properly. This server is powered by http://centos.org;>CentOS.
+  		This page is used to test the proper operation of the http://apache.org;>Apache HTTP server after it has been installed. If you can read this page it means that this site is working properly. This server is powered by http://centos.org;>CentOS. The CentOS Project has nothing to do with this website or its content, it just provides the software that makes the website run. If you have issues with the content of this site, contact the owner of the domain, not the CentOS project.
 		
   
   
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Guidelines/Policy for removal of EOL content from wiki

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 13/05/18 18:31, Phil Wyett wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> With now release 5 and below all EOL for over 12 months[1]. What
> guidelines/policy is in place for removal of old and out of date
> content from
> the wiki?
>
> [1] 5 is in extended support upstream and documentation etc. remain
> available
> until November 30, 2020. Should 5 related content remain until that date?

I think that the CentOS 5 info could still be valid for newer releases
and should not be removed via a "purge it all" approach. It would be
better to either amend it to say it's generic, read and recommend
deletion of specific pages or amend it to apply to newer versions too.

I don't think you can just delete a page and say it's out of date
because it's old. Some things are still the same as they always were.

Trevor

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Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS] trying to get amavid to work on centos 7

[Trevor Hemsley]

Hi

Sorry, but this "CWP" thing ("CentOS Web Panel") is not anything to do
with the CentOS project other than them using our good name to brand
their product. It's not written or supported by the CentOS project at
all and any systems with it installed are rendered unsupportable by us.
You will need to ask the CWP people what they've done to your system.

Trevor

On 06/03/18 16:09, Otong Akan wrote:
> A new user to linux, Centos 7 and CWP
>
> the following is what I get when I try to start my  AMaViS (A Mail
> Virus Scanner)
>
> amavisd.service - Amavisd-new is an interface between MTA and content 
> checkers.
>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/amavisd.service; disabled; vendor 
> preset: disabled)
>Active: failed (Result: start-limit) since Tue 2018-03-06 17:01:19 WAT; 
> 33s ago
>  Docs: http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#doc
>   Process: 11042 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/amavisd -c /etc/amavisd/amavisd.conf 
> (code=exited, status=255)
>
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: Failed to start Amavisd-new is an 
> interface between MTA and content checkers..
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: Unit amavisd.service entered failed 
> state.
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: amavisd.service failed.
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: amavisd.service holdoff time over, 
> scheduling restart.
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: start request repeated too quickly for 
> amavisd.service
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: Failed to start Amavisd-new is an 
> interface between MTA and content checkers..
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: Unit amavisd.service entered failed 
> state.
> Mar 06 17:01:19 ERPServer systemd[1]: amavisd.service failed.
>
>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fedora 26, what can be learned?

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 11/07/17 16:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> Fedora 26 is now available, what can CentOS EDU learn from it?
>
> If there is a subject that belongs on another list, please direct me
> to that... 

Since "CentOS EDU" is a proposed SIG that has not started yet,
discussion belongs on centos-devel not on -docs.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broken links

[Trevor Hemsley]

Contributions to the CentOS wiki are always welcome but you will need to
read
https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#head-42b3d8e26400a106851a61aebe5c2cca54dd79e5
and abide by those rules to register. You need to use your real name.

Trevor

On 04/07/17 14:26, -=X.L.O.R.D=- wrote:
> Akemi,
> Should you please also create an account for me as well for my contribution?
>
> FirstLast --> XlordX
>
> Xlord
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS-docs [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi
> Yagi
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:16 PM
> To: Mail list for wiki articles 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] Broken links
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Paul Claessen  wrote:
>> On June 27, 2017 at 10:33 PM Akemi Yagi  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Paul Claessen  wrote:
>> That yum page is quite old and needs some love. Would you be 
>> interested in contributing to the wiki? If so, please create your 
>> account with FirstnameLastname so that we can give you the edit right.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Akemi
>>
>> Absolutely! (like to contribute) .. I already created an account:
>> paulclaessen
>>
>> ~ Paul
>>
>> Sorry, but the wiki name must be in the form of FirstLast (note the 
>> uppercase). Can you recreate the account using PaulClaessen?
>> Akemi,
>>
>>
>> I don't know what happened to my capitals in my previous email ... but 
>> my account name actually IS PaulClaessen ;-)
>>
>> ~ Paul
> You can edit https://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum and also your
> homepage at:
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/PaulClaessen
>
> Feel free to let us know if you need access to other wiki articles.
> Thanks for your contribution.
>
> Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Centos doesn't load or work

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 22/09/16 15:46, Robert Cunliffe wrote:
>
> I've tried Zorrin, Ubuntu and Centos.
>
> Zorrin and Ubuntu work fine, but Centos doesn't load, or run.
>
> I asked for advice, didn't get any and seem to have been added to all
> your Centos mailing lists.
> *Please remove me from your mailing lists.*
>
> Sincerely,
> Bob Cunliffe
>
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fix typo to CentosPackager page in HowTos section

[Trevor Hemsley]

Sorry but you have joined the wrong list. This is for discussion of
CentOS documentation. For support you either need to subscribe to the
ordinary CentOS mailing list (not -docs) or join #centos on freenode IRC
or post on the forums on http://www.centos.org/forums


On 12/09/16 17:08, Robert Cunliffe wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I don't know what your email refers to.
>
> My problem is that Centos doesn't run when it has installed and so,
> having tried several times, I installed and tried Zorrin and then
> Ubuntu. Both these OS worked well and I'm now using Ubuntu.
>
>
> Is there any way to get Centos to run?
>
> I'd be interested.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> 
> *From:* centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
>  on behalf of Fabian Arrotin
> 
> *Sent:* 12 September 2016 16:44
> *To:* centos-docs@centos.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CentOS-docs] Fix typo to CentosPackager page in HowTos
> section
>  
> On 12/09/16 14:21, Praveen Kumar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Current page[0] contain a typo under "Generating your user
> > certificate" section. If you check Usage of centos-cert tool it
> > mention
> > " -n, --new-certGenerate a new Fedora Certificate" instead "
> > -n, --new-certGenerate a new CentOS Certificate". It would be
> > nice if someone fix that typo or provide me edit permission to do so.
> >
> > https://wiki.centos.org/kumarpraveen
> >
>
> Thanks, instead of fixing the page, the centos-cert tool should be
> fixed ...
> pinging Brian to do this
>
> -- 
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> The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org
> gpg key: 56BEC54E | twitter: @arrfab
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Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki update : https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS7 : FAQ 7: ifconfig/netstat

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 18/03/16 09:09, Håvard Sørli wrote:
> wiki name: HavardSorli
> Page for update : https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS7
>
> some notes / comments to:
>
> FAQ "7. What have you done with ifconfig/netstat?"
> "no longer install the net-utils package"
>
> I am not 100% sure, but I think "net-utils" is the wrong package name.
>
> I have checked Centos 4.9 and 7.2, ifconfig is part of the net-tools
> package
>
> # rpm -ql net-tools
> 
> /sbin/ifconfig
>
>
> It my be worth to mention that ifconfig do not show all the ipadresses
> that are configured on an interface (eth0). "ip addr" do that.  (I
> lost some time on this.

Thanks. I have updated the article now.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Fwd: CentOS forum search link in http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories under Atomic Repo

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 14/12/14 03:59, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
 Maybe I posted this a little late on Friday for anyone to take an
 interest in suggesting a properly built search URL for the current
 forum software, so I did some experiments which led to the suggestion
 added below the copy of the previous post.

 On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, I wrote:
 
 [https://www.centos.org/search.php?query=atomicorpmid=30action=showallandor=AND
 forum search] returns a 404.
   
   
   

  Can the forum search https://www.centos.org/forums/search.php? be
 used with parameters that will provide the supporting material for the
 warning Many CentOS users have had problems after enabling this repo?
 

 My experimentation indicates this URL:
 https://www.centos.org/forums/search.php?submit=Searchamp;keywords=atomicorp+repo
 returns 13 postings that discuss to use the Atomicorp repo with less
 than satisfactory results.

 Do those 13 postings adequately support the admonition to use the
 Atomicorp repo only with particular care?

All third party repos should be used with care but the Atomic one is
known to contain many packages that overwrite core packages from the
CentOS base and updates repos without warning. Mere installation of the
atomic repo will proceed to update all those packages that are in that
repo and that also reside in CentOS base and updates repos unless the
end user has already configured yum-plugin-priorities to exclude
duplicates from lower priority repos. Not many first time users bother
to do this before they've been bitten once (or more!).

As an example, I went to
https://www.atomicorp.com/channels/atomic/centos/6/x86_64/RPMS/ and went
through the list of packages there and made a list of what's there. I
then ran

yum list --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=base,updates  GeoOP Pound PyYAML
alien apachetop aqueduct\* asl-lite atop bglibs boostcompat\* ccache
clam\* clapf cloud-utils\* csync2 daemontools\* daq\* dcc denyhosts dirb
dkms dotconf dpkg dselect firebird\* firedns\* freetds\* galera\*
gperftools gpsd\* greenbone\* gsd havegd http-parser\* hydra\* iftop\*
imapsync incron\ inotify-tools jemalloc kmodtool ldns libbsd\*
libc-client libedit libident libmcrypt libmemcached libmicrohttpd libmnl
libnetfilter_queue libnfnetlink libopendkim librsync libssh libssh2
libuv libvirt libvirt-client libvirt-python libvpx libyaml lsyncd
lua-socket luajit lynis maildrop mariadb\* masscan memcached mhash
mingw32\* miniupnpc mod_fcgid mod_cgroup mod_qos mod_rpaf mod_ruid2
mod_security mod_sed mydumper mysql mysql-bench mysql-libs mysql-server
mysqlcient16 ncrack nettle nginx ngircd nikto nmap\* opendkim openpgm
openssl-compat\* openvas\* ossec ovaldi pyPdf pylibacl pysvn
python-BeautifulSoup python-SocksiPy python-clamd python-cluster
python-esmre python-futures python-guess-language python-httplib2
python-miniupnpc python-msgpack python-nltk python-pdfminer
python-pybloomfiltermmap python-zmq pyxattr pyzor qgreylist qmail\*
qt-mobility qtwebkit razoragents rblcheck rbldnsd rdiff-backup recode
redis reprepro roadsend salt salt-master salt-minion scap-security-guide
scapy scons secstate skdet skipfish snort socat spamassassin spamdyke
sqlite\* sqlninja sshpass sudosh sudosh2 supervise-scripts suricata
sysbench tidy tnef ucspi-tcp uscpi-unix unbound\* unhide uni2ascii v8
varnish w3af wapiti wmi xalan-c xerces-c xl2tpd

on my CentOS 6.6 system. As you can see from that command, I disabled
all other third party repos that I have installed so that only those
packages that are in the CentOS base and updates repos would be listed.
My command may contain typos and may also not be a complete list of all
packages there. For example there are lots of perl-* and php-* packages
in atomic that I could not be bothered to include because there were so
many of them so I omitted them but all of those have the potential to
overwrite core packages. The list I got back was as follows:

Installed Packages
libedit.x86_64
2.11-4.20080712cvs.1.el6
@anaconda-CentOS-201311291202.x86_64/6.5
libmnl.x86_64 
1.0.2-3.el6 
@anaconda-CentOS-201311291202.x86_64/6.5
libnfnetlink.x86_64   
1.0.0-1.el6 
@anaconda-CentOS-201311291202.x86_64/6.5
libssh2.i686  
1.4.2-1.el6 
@base  
libssh2.x86_64
1.4.2-1.el6 
@anaconda-CentOS-201311291202.x86_64/6.5
libvpx.i686   
1.3.0-5.el6_5   
@updates   
libvpx.x86_64 
1.3.0-5.el6_5   
@updates   
mysql.x86_64  
5.1.73-3.el6_5  
@updates   
mysql-libs.x86_64

Re: [CentOS-docs] A request for help managing wiki permissions

[Trevor Hemsley]

On 24/10/14 20:55, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
 On 24 octombrie 2014 19:46:35 EEST, Jim Perrin jper...@centos.org
 wrote:

 Long story short, the core team doesn't need to be in the business of
 micro-managing wiki permissions. We've not been that good at it during
 the best of times, and as the 6.6 build process is showing we've clearly
 let some stuff slip without following up on it appropriately here.


 What I'd propose is that 3-4 people who have been around the
 distribution a while (perhaps John Dennison and some others) volunteer
 to take over handling access to the wiki. This will be implemented as
 soon as we have enough trusted people to make it happen.

 If you're willing to participate and you're known to us, please
 volunteer in this thread.


 Count me in as well.

Also happy to help with the proviso that I'll need some idea of howto
since my exposure to the wiki so far has been on the this needs fixing
NOW type of page ;-)

T
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