Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:51:41AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. This is what's worked for me. I know the double dash is supposed to stop interpretation of arguments, but it hasn't worked for me. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgphc9TKNIsHF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:16:51PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: What shell are you using? Perhaps that is interfering. Ah. Good point. I've been using zsh for so long I forget it's even an issue. ;-) -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpOdZFUjGdN0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: WTF - there is a reason the -f flag exists - RTFM I don't know what manual you're reading. But -f has a specific function and *this* *isn't* *it*. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpV5XyoEgnkD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:04:00PM -0500, Jim Perrin wrote: Don't feed the trolls, and be careful of the CC. He's not on the mailing list proper for a reason. My apologies. I did not realize. But of course you're right. This issue is all about shell interpretation--before the command string even gets to the command. Should I always strip the cc when posting to this list? -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpd9pphFkzaT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:59:28PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:46:51PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: This issue is all about shell interpretation--before the command string even gets to the command. Apparently zsh handles this differently from what was stated here earlier. If this is indeed the case this is arguably a zsh bug. I don't know. I couldn't reproduce the behavior today: [benfell@munich]~% print $SHELL /bin/zsh [benfell@munich]~% touch -- --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% ls -al -- --DoingMyselfIn -rw-rw-r-- 1 benfell benfell 0 Apr 2 18:10 --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% rm -- --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% ls -al -- --DoingMyselfIn ls: cannot access --DoingMyselfIn: No such file or directory [benfell@munich]~% -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpRaowLNoy56.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] system setups, was Re: has anybody gotten horde working?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 04:47:21AM +, Always Learning wrote: My good experience is, I believe, very likely to be shared by many others around the world. I think that much depends on what you're seeking to accomplish. Most distributions, these days, will do an acceptable job of configuring a system for an end-user at installation. Those of us who've been around for a few years remember trying to get USB working, trying to get sound working, having to configure X by hand, and a lot of other hellish (but for some, immensely educational) experiences. If, on the other hand, you're trying to throw up a server, things start getting more difficult. It isn't enough to say that the MTA configuration was acceptable out of the box, because if you're actually running your own domains, that simply doesn't come out of the box. But at least with a MTA, you can pretty much configure it and forget it. Web servers always seem to need a bit of tweaking, just because this is your face to the world, or an important part of your infrastructure, and this often means experimenting with new software--like my ill-fated venture into horde. And none of these configurations are intuitive. Postfix has way too many moving parts. I've got moderately decent anti-spam defenses up now and I'm basically hanging on to this configuration by the skin of my teeth. My apache configuration relies heavily on Include statements, repeating configurations for IP addresses and ports, and on my ability to use one domain as a template for another. I doubt I have any of this stuff properly optimized for my server--and mysql is its own special case here, where if you keep following some guidance, you'll exceed the limits of your machine by a couple orders of magnitude. But in the meantime, you have to not let a system's poor performance drive you into making the problem worse. If you've really ventured through all of this stuff, and into application layers and only had success, more power to you. I've found a few of my own limits along the way. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpGHI6t9wThx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 08:21:08AM -0600, Nels Lindquist wrote: I see later in the thread that you're trying to use the EPEL packages, which are based on the Horde 3 framework. The current stable framework is Horde 5, which is significantly advanced from the Horde 3 framework. Actually: php-horde-horde.noarch 5.1.6-1.el6.remi @remi I'm still a little confused about these additional repositories, but this looks like Horde 5 to me. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpubzrr44eAU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 09:56:46AM -0600, Nels Lindquist wrote: On 3/24/2014 3:17 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: What are you using as an authentication backend? Many people with the simplest use case for Horde (single domain webmail; one server) set up the one required backend in IMP, and then allow Horde to use IMP for authentication, which in effect passes authentication for all of Horde through to the underlying mail server. I was using the filesystem for the session-handling backend, and dovecot for authentication. Dovecot was the only authentication backend I could figure out how to get working. For me at least, horde's documentation--especially on authentication backends--doesn't even begin to approach adequacy. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgprjIeGhPEwN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 03:40:16PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: The remi repository will replace a lot of base packages with newer versions if you let it. It may be OK by itself or with EPEL enable but likely to conflict with anything else. Jeez. There's more than decent reason to suspect that that might be a problem... Thanks! -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpB0_RXSAgM5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
Hi, Horde seems to be quite the problem child. It sorta kinda looks like session handling is entirely broken. kronolith will let me in, but not for long. Then I get invalid token and am bounced back to the home screen. imp won't let me in at all. This behavior is completely broken: I get a log in screen and a message in /var/log/messages about not being authorized for IMP (which is apparently right up there in the list of useless, meaningless error messages). Looking around on the web, I see a google thread about somebody saying kronolith shouldn't reset session data, and Jan Schneider, the horde developer, I think, insisting that it must. He seems to have his own idea about how things should work--and I'm beginning to wonder if it actually does. Has anybody gotten this working? By the way, this is CentOS 6.5. Thanks! -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpNOmBee91tj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:49:17PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Jan Schneider is an idiot closing reproduceable bugreports years ago and refuse clear and valid changes to avoid them just drop that crap and use a different solution like Roundcube which is not splitted in a ton of unmaintainable subpackages *sigh* Unfortunately, this sounds right. This is only about the zillionth time I've tried to get horde working--and this is as far as I've gotten. Unfortunately, the openpgp plugin for roundcube also seems broken. It doesn't sign messages even in a format *it* can recognize (and I've confirmed that nothing else recognizes its signatures either). Thanks! -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpAeX9g3VaAy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On 2014-03-24 15:51, Les Mikesell wrote: If you are starting from scratch building a mail server you might want to look at SME server or ClearOS where webmail works out of the box. Definitely not a start from scratch. But I did find this: http://senderek.ie/wee/webmail/wee-roundcube.php It modifies roundcube to implement gnupg. I'm testing it now. And it seems to have failed *sigh* ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] has anybody gotten horde working?
On 2014-03-24 16:24, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/24/2014 04:17 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: Hi, Horde seems to be quite the problem child. It sorta kinda looks like session handling is entirely broken. kronolith will let me in, but not for long. Then I get invalid token and am bounced back to the home screen. imp won't let me in at all. This behavior is completely broken: I get a log in screen and a message in /var/log/messages about not being authorized for IMP (which is apparently right up there in the list of useless, meaningless error messages). Looking around on the web, I see a google thread about somebody saying kronolith shouldn't reset session data, and Jan Schneider, the horde developer, I think, insisting that it must. He seems to have his own idea about how things should work--and I'm beginning to wonder if it actually does. Has anybody gotten this working? By the way, this is CentOS 6.5. Thanks! Are you using the version from EPEL? Yup. If so, I would report to them that it is not working. Thanks. I will do so. Or are you trying the software directly from horde.org? I've made this mistake before. A few times. The state of the pear packages is in continual flux. Often they are broken and, if there is an option to install stable versions when newer, broken ones are available, I haven't found it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Pipe into logger duplicates messages in /var/log/messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/03/2014 09:34 PM, Alexander wrote: I am trying to pipe the output from a process into syslog using the logger command. Initially I pipe the output into a separate file, but as it happens this filled up the disk when things went wrong. So I figured I redirect the output to syslog and let logrotate deal with the roll-over and archive of the file. However the following command : echo HI logger -t test What are the contents of the file HI in the working directory from which you ran this command? (I think you mean `echo HI | logger -t test`.) - -- David Benfell see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTFWubAAoJEBV64x4SNmArD5kP/0HgMyYUkdrnntdO+zPUf9t6 QrKdGsSPhy2md/AN66B2s2BBk5wYnP3oMPJi+VGDjes8mlLK6hxdfJSVj/hAS+YY saOxTQwe8AlTP3nbbJbzmdER3qJ/wYn6SDMXedQlErgLZ1sl2ZF7dcKvxXLQqPu0 W/Cn1gCymLino6AgH8inCDaqyAeQHS0QVM0a718ajrafACvbZOutbqbqCiv/syQR XzX+gCPmy2lGdLfqEFntLau6A/uH0EMVBnB0qhKf2LeUc+t0uemdURguICeKQiR3 tFEbC+yDunZyj2TpJLl0c+yAPQZvmCjULRqRBvyWbN0Ehkz7PXN+dDO+iT2ECtOw KfHpTMJBwYvkxjFzzAZxQ4QVqcAMqc4XtBRWxeRyqntKwJ2xYCET7cvyUAlt0khO Qjmz17DDR3AVGHpn2LIxmp2pUx8/thfoNMDR477AL51WKrESibIpPhvX5Tk3LpyY GJJhtr5cqYJUZLSYnqXgp3U6ZmO4uA3DwuvCp8kY7/YcLTysx8wj4xl488c4fmfc LTDmBcfL2lAld8BcXHtXkuKFOIkzaBpybDEUnVbigQ5gxkL9bKrK2Ew2W+Wef56D JHiRfXEG5GoxIrQ42ojXew92fIpt47f71Y7VXhmVYaGrumr1C6CYTh2GhlzpbDQa fyzHNPPUulsW4qRSmrF5 =cks2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Elliptic curve on Centos 6.x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/03/2014 03:36 AM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: IMHO underlying problem is not that a cipher/process/code was compromised but that the supervising _trustworthy_ entity is in fact not trustworthy at all! It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I have enough experience with government to know that there are indeed people who really care about what they do and I'm inclined to accept that some of them at NIST are indeed really, really upset about this. But if I understood and am remembering correctly, NSA's involvement was mandated by statute. Back to a more technical point: If indeed the compromised algorithm is *not* enabled in openssl (as a build option) by default, how would apache be able to use it, even in rare instances, unless somebody actually selected that option? - -- David Benfell see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.1.0-ecc (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSxzWNAAoJEKrN0Ha7pkCOTxYP/2KXKJ3QYnC51baCNWqvZxG9 nvWmi3WR0Stm81suJDC46IV5yJMgqGPV1JGaXVAh9YliiRBqCDEEhKk87NYpbMfT nGUaMARp1EOyW1r2WH7JbwAbX37jNnJg65bvxdS7UqSuwxCjjg29Tnah1ybSCV9k jEPI8Ssccc9uVglUPzj1LJsIeSq2JysZicZHa3jgxhFC2erfqPmDxVVYYheCD6Mb kZtVxJ+E5o/y+X0B1kgV2ZXYB0D7VlnOCKl6XxzY7t8qeDh4JMx4bFxXKEBAsUGt pOX3siD/ferpbt3xkQyz9L8IutZWkTO3wwuJ9faM+fPYTPlqzTtA/xCEbDOz6rgZ ZUcr2FNi+KLn0Yt4PxYFTseLHV1QMtztsozGweD0+90CDAkgeTphd15VLf+xttlw JJ4jOP4kyUxq/lAJl16xzoyM9sttZnf1brBOaSqsc2nccX8k6dlbyHsRY/AfLtXb /7499cGR1XdxVRt7LtvUG4XLLMh3CIGT1kv4txzldXJJhFvETlPpfbtAjumwh6pd +qQWtewVxH0QVV5LX/lYV7RgquLMhM++nkMcMvB+wvyEUDAalRdeNYZ/zrWNw9cX OT+OYZGRu5LDRDDjeKzDmyDhAGoLPDIw4qpxoH/6ypPzkm4glOS22gI/f38TtoJD ojKtZnrYUVe/Po5QyH3c =1h31 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Elliptic curve on Centos 6.x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/02/2014 01:22 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Eero Volotinen wrote: Is there nice way to put back EC encryption on Centos? RHEL disabled it due patent issues, but is third party providing packages to EC enabled packages to centos ? *Which* elliptic curve? I trust you've been reading the revelations from Snowdon about the NSA putting a backdoor in the common ones, esp. the POSIX ones. - From what I've been able to find, this is a bit overstated. There is *one* random number algorithm (Dual_EC_DRBG) associated with ECC that is believed to have been compromised. That it appeared vulnerable has long been known; Bruce Schneier wrote about it in 2007. It also happens to be inefficient and so is not widely used (but a few commercial products use it). http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2007/11/securitymatters_1115 I was unable to find an associated vulnerability in Linux. I trust the OpenSSL folks would be on top of this faster than you can blink an eye if it were a current issue. They have not, from what I've seen, reacted to the revelations. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131220 - -- David Benfell see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.1.0-ecc (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSxgzmAAoJEKrN0Ha7pkCOG1UP/2Tpcnv7JXSombnxZ6Jb511m xkUqLpj4XUiZ+ENIHtzbZSJ9lasAuXBiwfkqr+6Au/8e0Ogbx9KxlofaK6wEU2CI ay2Mpx204CIokZguLxH5ZsltDRcV+AgcCU3queHe//4Y4VxeQoHpfrJh+CdHKrG7 nOIq5ZqC2X58mwJFXtjdTR0J+VjstPFQfP5qtLQeOXI7/rra+oHis+dcBYW3L+T9 Li9eUqY2Qb++W+5PwA8YHqqHPCxOcmbk/kY1/BC46mItEyJEjpOEh+iR2INt21i+ F9FnNHQDrOkbfqQBQaX7wWWXVCjEoi6Z4USIUZLDsPIgwX8Uf2h2D3a4q+WBHDtI d6Vvr02+hyH0XupZP8EkhFr01CtReqPFJv1j+zzQB0+yu8QW0AOf/RTCxqHMESPG 1DZBL0rbsqY+FvdyKGVUiGZMttOGsHAfwIKMbz3XzbEyCdIzWytf50dt9y6tM1wy 6NBY3fNZ6nlPozjeXaZsT5Q5pEjut04Djhql1PpckOlddgsYV78tdOXl0nJRGB2R ZvHkFTOTj430eQa9iZ68Ud6yirI/Cnv3au4tye5uwM0QEhck6RLAAtloCDrU7ZJA tWOqtRLtiysLARjBDvE61BjC4btsaeahuxxspWZ97A9ZSxh2iiKHmnzZoEMlXL0I ABJTAq0gI+QuKXaj7Ehc =//KB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Story of an email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/30/2013 04:43 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: Fetchmail (and getmail) don't make use of smtp. As their name suggests, they get mail, pulling it from a pop or imap server, whether on your ISP or local server. From there, they might send it elsewhere, depending upon the setup. The traditional, and I believe default, fetchmail setup is to hand off to SMTP for local delivery. I've always found this problematic and usually overridden it. But as I'm using getmail these days (fetchmail is just too fussy in general), I don't have an example configuration to share. - -- David Benfell see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.1.0-ecc (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSmkcqAAoJEKrN0Ha7pkCOPBIP/2eQZSR7/siIObwSbYk7wgDL myO+tZydYazwnC+AFX1aAOh+QH5r/KCKP0HzhaKzPTXO8n7IdT8mgiyPn47x4kgQ EUClc2SMsDfTH6JYhviU5KIbSw8MBcuH4jxIdbEUG5dJG1++gcnDM6zaxWSam2Jb xVaADwx4m9VW5ai88jKRZ5Y9h8aouL/46h2dsPMk0Ur3rquWc8Mhv3L0wrATGBYf f65lgUSUV+fqBUfQlC/1Ls50IVzqDb8jUQQT7VtvEvp7z9gH4F2H+jxqA8BiUrNB U9rusIVWsTu/N8Pumw/uXc/Ud+Xvo+XUUqO9qXVXnaZVnRgBSWRWDj+bZoITCatc 0x/hVlsM0f158rqlR9Ivz541cEMJ97bMtqrYKvpsIPjbExSD+K3pALZZfoBdIOr6 oFkA+3kl92YBuyCoWMLJp5qvvySNuHy60x/xxovkisw8TX2DLbFkyoJSa77WeRWd 3QRSzRxZXZZwf/hxNZeZuhD9jVagRVWyHHC5tPbaQMPrEdXwNjLXeJpvCPQUlIRw dVHAcECkXHM3RVlx9k6IGghT5n46/U/uuTed1sszzVnNL1CQQMbNRojsXUBkiBrs q00qfby2YlWDFRyIf1sQ+tXHd+9Gq9j+ScRSi+z9lAKVV7sO/2Aa4KMFLbiRn/82 0KtOUlm4C4G5HZuUMiCp =+OrW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
