Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-15 Thread WBEL-User03 
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:41:22 +0100, Always Learning wrote:
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> Thank you for all the hard dedicated work.
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 I am echoing Always Learning's appreciation.  Thank you, Karanbir,
and all the other developers, QA personnel & repository/infrastructure
maintainers for getting 5.7 released.
 I'd like to contribute financially, to assist CentOS in this work.
But it appears your cash donation policy is still under review[1].  Any
idea when that will be complete?

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-14 Thread Karanbir Singh 
On 09/14/2011 06:59 AM, James A. Peltier wrote:
> Yes, I did notice that, just wondered why.  It seems more prone to breakage 
> (creating multiple symlinks vs one)

There are a couple of reasons. I wont go into all, but the 2 that stick
out the most for me are:

1) symlinking a step deeper means we can have more finer grained control
over the content exported from the / and the /
level, specially when it involved shared content ( Extras as one
functional example, addons and contribs as another - but non impacted here )

2) This is the more important one : with /6/ and 6.X/ being real
physical locations there is still the door open that allows /6/ to
become the CR repo. Entirely, across the OS/ and Updates/+ CR/ whereas
6.X/cr/ then becomes local to what is representative of a next-release
content repo ( in relation to the point release its injected into ).
This becomes even more relevant when you factor in 'CR/ content will not
move to vault.c.o when the .X content does'. Furthermore, this
is an important issue when we consider that the CR repo is opt-in,
having a /6/ stream that is always updated and always just-usable
irrespective of what 6.X one installs on their machines is always going
to be a good goal to achieve, imho. Impact on how we do things, how we
store stuff, stage content, get it into the mirrors, export to users and
yum clients : massive. Ofcourse, the only experience that needs to be
protected is the yum-client interface, and can we achieve this refactor
without impacting yum-client interfaces ? I dont know. What I do know,
is that very very few external mirrors have the capacity to handle
something of this nature. Solve'able problems no doubt.

There are also site-specific benefits like being able to add and track
local repo's without needing to add in hackery over the centos mirror
rsync exported content within a / or .X/ tree. And for
people who run multiple machines, or need to have different production
environments this tends to be quite a big deal.

>From the user perspective, it should not make a difference as to where
the symlinks are setup to -> from. If there is an impact, do tell.

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-14 Thread Keith Roberts 
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote:

> To: centos@centos.org
> From: Always Learning 
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64
> 
> On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 00:33 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>> We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-5.7 for
>> i386 and x86_64 Architectures.
>
> Thank you for all the hard dedicated work.

+1 Yes.

Keith

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-13 Thread James A. Peltier 
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| On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:24:48PM -0700, James A. Peltier wrote:
| > Any reason why 5 is not a symlink to 5.7 whereas 4 is a symlink to
| > 4.8? Looks like the same applies to 6!?!
| 
| Because the contents of 5/ are symlinks to the 5.7/ directories!?!

Yes, I did notice that, just wondered why.  It seems more prone to breakage 
(creating multiple symlinks vs one)
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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-13 Thread John R Pierce 
On 09/13/11 9:40 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:24:48PM -0700, James A. Peltier wrote:
>> >  Any reason why 5 is not a symlink to 5.7 whereas 4 is a symlink to
>> >  4.8?  Looks like the same applies to 6!?!
> Because the contents of 5/ are symlinks to the 5.7/ directories!?!

yeah I noticed that they've changed that.  in 4.x, cd centos; ln -s 4 
4.8   but in 5.x+, its more like,

 cd centos/5.7
 for i in *; do ln $i ../5/$i; done



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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-13 Thread John R. Dennison 
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:24:48PM -0700, James A. Peltier wrote:
> Any reason why 5 is not a symlink to 5.7 whereas 4 is a symlink to
> 4.8?  Looks like the same applies to 6!?!

Because the contents of 5/ are symlinks to the 5.7/ directories!?!




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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-13 Thread James A. Peltier 
Any reason why 5 is not a symlink to 5.7 whereas 4 is a symlink to 4.8?  Looks 
like the same applies to 6!?!

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| We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-5.7
| for
| i386 and x86_64 Architectures.
| 
| CentOS-5.7 is based on the upstream release EL 5.7 and includes
| packages from all variants including Server and Client. All upstream
| repositories have been combined into one, to make it easier for end
| users to work with.
| 
| This is just an announcement email, not the release notes. The Release
| Notes for CentOS-5.7 can be found on-line at :
| http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.7 and everyone is
| encouraged to look through them once. Also worth browsing through are
| the CentOS FAQs at http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ
| 
| +++
| Upgrading from CentOS-5.6 ( or CentOS-5.0/5.1/5.2/5.3/5.4/5.5):
| 
| If you are already running CentOS-5.6 or an older CentOS-5 distro, all
| you need to do is update your machine via yum by running :
| 
| 'yum update'
| 
| Running 'yum list updates' before doing the update is recommended, so
| you can get a list of packages that are going to be updated. To check
| you are indeed on CentOS-5.7, run : 'rpm -q centos-release' and that
| should return: 'centos-release-5-7.el5.centos.1'
| 
| If you are running CentOS-5.6 and have the CR repo enabled, a simple
| 'yum update' will still move your machine to 5.7. But since the CR
| repo
| already contained all the 5.7 updates, there will only be a handful of
| rpms that need to be installed for the 5.6 to 5.7 upgrade. If you are
| not running the CR repo, we highly encourage everyone to install and
| run
| this repository on their machines. More details on the CR repo can be
| found online at
| http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CR
| 
| +++
| Downloading CentOS-5.7 for new installs:
| 
| When possible, consider using torrents to run the downloads. Not only
| does it help the community and keeps mirrors from running up high
| bandwidth bills, in most cases you will find its also the fastest
| means
| to download the distro. There are currently over a hundred people
| seeding CentOS-5 and it's possible to get upto 100mbps downloads via
| these torrents.
| 
| - -- Via BitTorrent :
| CD:
| http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.7/isos/i386/CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-1to8.torrent
| 
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-1to8.torrent
| 
| DVD:
| http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.7/isos/i386/CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-DVD.torrent
| 
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent
| 
| md5sum's for these torrent files:
| 
| 8e29e525f45c4a7b3a963cc01ec3459a CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-1to8.torrent
| 32c9e0826b50d6be44823523be403c7f CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-1to8.torrent
| 795d6c11b5ef8907653360af52b9f317 CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-DVD.torrent
| 04c563f2c838bf6b255fcc5fcc18cf66 CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent
| 
| sha1sum's for these torrent files:
| 
| 8a945ba89b03328480fde20eaa0b638ceb7f4509
| CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-1to8.torrent
| b1a18ba25e77543c4df9078dfafba990fbd58601
| CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-1to8.torrent
| d3c4ed0d14fe1873bbcee931224e5e8819f779dc
| CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-DVD.torrent
| 302850dd4f9a8198b303f872c83a5a16ec1c40c2
| CentOS-5.7-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent
| 
| 
| While torrent files will do their own content checks, and only the
| right
| torrent will register and download from torrent.centos.org - its very
| important for your own security that an md5/sha1sum check is done on
| the
| .torrent file itself, and ensure that only the torrent.centos.org
| tracker is being used. Sha1sum's are more secure than md5's. Whenever
| possible, use sha1sum's instead of md5.
| 
| - -- Via direct download:
| Due to bandwidth considerations the CentOS Project does not publish
| ISOs
| directly from our network machines. However direct downloads are
| available from external mirrors over http, ftp and rsync. A geoip
| based list is available at
| http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/
| to give you the best predictable match ( and only lists mirrors that
| are
| updated already, so you don't need to waste time looking for a sync'd
| mirror )
| 
| Some mirrors also publish DVD images that can be downloaded directly.
| Refer to the mirrors list page at http://www.centos.org/mirrors for
| more
| details Mirrors that offer DVDs are clearly marked on the page.
| 
| +++
| sha1sum for these ISOS:
| 
| i386:
| 6acbf1db3f4dce6dce7df15c54394a7cef6c3a7d CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-1of8.iso
| 241e5ea801b449ff59191c620db0a6b00b4aaaf5 CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-2of8.iso
| 0955c2029c1839b1e3601bb4238a2cd6c84e9aca CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-3of8.iso
| 7e094a60e2ddb7904e425487b8c4936e464f10a5 CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-4of8.iso
| 3eb0ee0b146140c4ef812d69fbc8712da1c0661d CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-5of8.iso
| 31b689247da34a58119b91821b13f70424e85a16 CentOS-5.7-i386-bin-6of8.iso
|

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.7 i386 and x86_64

2011-09-13 Thread Always Learning 
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 00:33 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of CentOS-5.7 for
> i386 and x86_64 Architectures.

Thank you for all the hard dedicated work.

-- 
With best regards,

Paul.
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