Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-18 Thread YB Tan Sri Dato Sri' Adli a.k.a Dell


 
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 From: m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems
 

Well, I'm *almost* there on my user's box with the old ATI card. Radeon
driver, and I had one mistake, so now we can access both monitors.

But...

If I enable xinerama, I can have it work as one large screen, but xrandr
is disabled (and the system-preferences-display doesn't work). And with
xinerama, it still acts as though either it isn't getting 1280x1024
resolution, or the viewport (?) is bigger than the screens, and I have no
viewport option. Also, when I shove the mouse off the screen, a portion,
an L shape of maybe 25% or 30% of the screen, moves offscreen, and I
can't make it come back.

With xinerama disabled, xrandr is enabled, the
system-preferences-display works, and I can move the mouse between
monitors... but the systems sees them as separate, with their own menus at
the top, and the display GUI only sees one monitor.

Annoying, to say the least. Any X experts here that can suggest what I'm
missing?

Here's my current xorg.conf:
Section ServerFlags
    Option        AllowMouseOpenFail true
EndSection

Section Files
        ModulePath   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/
        ModulePath   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules
EndSection

Section Module
        Load  glx
EndSection

snip of mouse  keyboard sections

Section       Device
  Identifier  mycard0
  Driver      radeon
  BusID       PCI:2:0:0
  Screen      0
EndSection

Section       Device
  Identifier  mycard1
  Driver      radeon
  BusID       PCI:2:0:0
  Screen      1
EndSection

Section       Monitor
  Identifier  mymon0
  Option      Monitor-DisplayPort-0
  Option      Rotate left
EndSection

Section       Monitor
  Identifier  mymon1
  Option      Monitor-DisplayPort-1
  Option      Rotate left
EndSection

Section       Screen
  Identifier  myhead0
  Device      mycard0
  Monitor     mymon0
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection  Display
    Depth     24
    Modes     1280x1024
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section       Screen
  Identifier  myhead1
  Device      mycard1
  Monitor     mymon1
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection Display
    Depth     24
    Modes     1280x1024
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
  Identifier  layout0
  InputDevice keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
  InputDevice mouse0 CorePointer
  Screen      0 myhead0 RightOf myhead1
  Screen      1 myhead1
  Option      Xinerama 0
EndSection

      mark



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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-17 Thread m . roth
Well, I'm *almost* there on my user's box with the old ATI card. Radeon
driver, and I had one mistake, so now we can access both monitors.

But...

If I enable xinerama, I can have it work as one large screen, but xrandr
is disabled (and the system-preferences-display doesn't work). And with
xinerama, it still acts as though either it isn't getting 1280x1024
resolution, or the viewport (?) is bigger than the screens, and I have no
viewport option. Also, when I shove the mouse off the screen, a portion,
an L shape of maybe 25% or 30% of the screen, moves offscreen, and I
can't make it come back.

With xinerama disabled, xrandr is enabled, the
system-preferences-display works, and I can move the mouse between
monitors... but the systems sees them as separate, with their own menus at
the top, and the display GUI only sees one monitor.

Annoying, to say the least. Any X experts here that can suggest what I'm
missing?

Here's my current xorg.conf:
Section ServerFlags
OptionAllowMouseOpenFail true
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/
ModulePath   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules
EndSection

Section Module
Load  glx
EndSection

snip of mouse  keyboard sections

Section   Device
  Identifier  mycard0
  Driver  radeon
  BusID   PCI:2:0:0
  Screen  0
EndSection

Section   Device
  Identifier  mycard1
  Driver  radeon
  BusID   PCI:2:0:0
  Screen  1
EndSection

Section   Monitor
  Identifier  mymon0
  Option  Monitor-DisplayPort-0
  Option  Rotate left
EndSection

Section   Monitor
  Identifier  mymon1
  Option  Monitor-DisplayPort-1
  Option  Rotate left
EndSection

Section   Screen
  Identifier  myhead0
  Device  mycard0
  Monitor mymon0
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection  Display
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section   Screen
  Identifier  myhead1
  Device  mycard1
  Monitor mymon1
  DefaultDepth  24
  SubSection Display
Depth 24
Modes 1280x1024
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
  Identifier  layout0
  InputDevice keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
  InputDevice mouse0 CorePointer
  Screen  0 myhead0 RightOf myhead1
  Screen  1 myhead1
  Option  Xinerama 0
EndSection

  mark



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[CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread m . roth
User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log, it
tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon cards,
and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me it's
ATI device 2343.

Anyone know what this card is like (AMD shows three different models of
the same name, and I have no idea which it is, and none uses a Radeon
name), and what driver I might use, or do I have to downgrade X

   mark, extremely tired of his user's machine

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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread Ned Slider
On 15/04/13 16:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

 It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

 So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
 xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log, it
 tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
 on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
 kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon cards,
 and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me it's
 ATI device 2343.

 Anyone know what this card is like (AMD shows three different models of
 the same name, and I have no idea which it is, and none uses a Radeon
 name), and what driver I might use, or do I have to downgrade X

 mark, extremely tired of his user's machine


It is no longer supported.

The current AMD driver [v13.1] ONLY supports Radeon HD 5000 series and 
above, with the legacy driver [v13.1 legacy] supporting older Radeon HD 
2000, HD 3000 or HD 4000 series cards (I assume yours is a 2000 series 
card) *BUT* the legacy driver does NOT support X server ABI 13 in the 
version of Xorg shipped with RHEL 6.4. So your card is not supported by 
AMD as the version of Xorg server in RHEL 6.4 is too new.


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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread m . roth
Hi, Ned,

Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 16:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

 It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

 So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
 xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log, it
 tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
 on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
 kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon cards,
 and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me
 it's ATI device 2343.

 Anyone know what this card is like (AMD shows three different models of
 the same name, and I have no idea which it is, and none uses a Radeon
 name), and what driver I might use, or do I have to downgrade X

 It is no longer supported.

 The current AMD driver [v13.1] ONLY supports Radeon HD 5000 series and
 above, with the legacy driver [v13.1 legacy] supporting older Radeon HD
 2000, HD 3000 or HD 4000 series cards (I assume yours is a 2000 series
 card) *BUT* the legacy driver does NOT support X server ABI 13 in the
 version of Xorg shipped with RHEL 6.4. So your card is not supported by
 AMD as the version of Xorg server in RHEL 6.4 is too new.

That's what I was coming to think - the one thing that had me stopped was
what it *was*. Do I understand you to be saying that this is a Radeon HD
2xxx (and why *three* names, two from ATI?)?

Also, it appears that you're saying I need to downgrade his X (all of
it?), and remove the kmod-fglrx, and install the legacy (is that the
kmod-fglrx93?

Thanks for the quick response - I really need to get his video up

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread Ned Slider
On 15/04/13 17:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Hi, Ned,

 Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 16:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

 It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

 So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
 xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log, it
 tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
 on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
 kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon cards,
 and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me
 it's ATI device 2343.

 Anyone know what this card is like (AMD shows three different models of
 the same name, and I have no idea which it is, and none uses a Radeon
 name), and what driver I might use, or do I have to downgrade X

 It is no longer supported.

 The current AMD driver [v13.1] ONLY supports Radeon HD 5000 series and
 above, with the legacy driver [v13.1 legacy] supporting older Radeon HD
 2000, HD 3000 or HD 4000 series cards (I assume yours is a 2000 series
 card) *BUT* the legacy driver does NOT support X server ABI 13 in the
 version of Xorg shipped with RHEL 6.4. So your card is not supported by
 AMD as the version of Xorg server in RHEL 6.4 is too new.

 That's what I was coming to think - the one thing that had me stopped was
 what it *was*. Do I understand you to be saying that this is a Radeon HD
 2xxx (and why *three* names, two from ATI?)?


FirePro 2260 leads me to believe it's a 2000 series card. Having the 
Vendor:Device ID pairing would help clarify, but looking at the pci id's 
database I'm guessing it's either 1002:95ce or 1002:95cf.

 Also, it appears that you're saying I need to downgrade his X (all of
 it?), and remove the kmod-fglrx, and install the legacy (is that the
 kmod-fglrx93?


You have a number of choices:

1. Use the v13.1 legacy driver from AMD and downgrade xorg\* to the last 
release that came with RHEL 6.3 and exclude future updates. If you wish 
to use the elrepo package it's called kmod-fglrx-legacy / 
fglrx-legacy-x11-drv (currently version 13.1-2) and is currently in the 
testing repo. Obviously downgrading xorg packages has potential security 
implications.

2. Uninstall the AMD proprietary drivers and use the distro kernel driver.

3. Ask AMD when they will update the legacy driver to support Xorg ABI 13.

4. Buy a new (supported) card.

A fifth option is to use el5 which uses an older supported version of 
Xorg (I do find it kind of ironic that RHEL6 ships with such a new 
version of Xorg that some proprietary drivers don't support it - more 
the kind of thing you expect to run into on Ubuntu or Fedora than 
Enterprise Linux).



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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread m . roth
Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 17:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 16:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

 It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

 So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
 xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log,
 it tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
 on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
 kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon
 cards,
 and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me
 it's ATI device 2343.

 FirePro 2260 leads me to believe it's a 2000 series card. Having the
 Vendor:Device ID pairing would help clarify, but looking at the pci id's
 database I'm guessing it's either 1002:95ce or 1002:95cf.

Not sure how to get that - lspci -vvv | grep 1002 gets me nothing.

 Also, it appears that you're saying I need to downgrade his X (all of
 it?), and remove the kmod-fglrx, and install the legacy (is that the
 kmod-fglrx93?

 You have a number of choices:

 1. Use the v13.1 legacy driver from AMD and downgrade xorg\* to the last
 release that came with RHEL 6.3 and exclude future updates. If you wish
 to use the elrepo package it's called kmod-fglrx-legacy /
 fglrx-legacy-x11-drv (currently version 13.1-2) and is currently in the
 testing repo. Obviously downgrading xorg packages has potential security
 implications.

That's become a no-starter: I tried to downgrade, and yum tells me there
*is* no downgrade. If I understand correctly... I'd have to downgrade him
to 6.3.

 2. Uninstall the AMD proprietary drivers and use the distro kernel driver.

 3. Ask AMD when they will update the legacy driver to support Xorg ABI 13.

See the last sentence in my answer to 4.

 4. Buy a new (supported) card.

That's try and get it through purchasing, or maybe I can try the unlikely
idea, since it's still under warranty (we just bought it in Nov!), to see
if Dell will replace the card.  I have a call into them, and am waiting
for the RH group there to get back to me, to see if they have a driver
(and maybe lean on them to lean on AMD - Dell leans a *lot* harder than I
do).

 A fifth option is to use el5 which uses an older supported version of
 Xorg (I do find it kind of ironic that RHEL6 ships with such a new
 version of Xorg that some proprietary drivers don't support it - more
 the kind of thing you expect to run into on Ubuntu or Fedora than
 Enterprise Linux).

I don't think I'm going to rebuild his entire system that way. 6.3 would
work, but I'm seeing what I can do to avoid that.

several hours later
I've got it working with radeon. What I've spent an hour or two on is
hand-crafting an xorg.conf. He's got two monitors, and rotates them
(*sigh*). Everything seems right, except for one detail: I can't drag the
mouse from one screen to the next. I have Option Xinerama 1, but no
joy.

Clues?

mark almost there
I've been

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Re: [CentOS] ATI video driver problems

2013-04-15 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 17:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Ned Slider wrote:
 On 15/04/13 16:57, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 User got upgraded to 6.4. Graphical mode video fails.

 It's an AMD (nee ATI) RV620 (FirePro 2260).

 So I finished upgrading everything, including kmod-fglrx. Based on the
 xorg.conf's on there, it's been using the fglrx. Now, in Xorg.0.log,
 it tells me no supported AMD display adapters were found. I've been
 on-and-off googling for hours, and can't figure out if the legacy
 kmod-nvidia from elrepo will work: their info *ONLY* lists Radeon
 cards,
 and I can't figure out what this damn thing is. Oh, lspci -v tells me
 it's ATI device 2343.

 FirePro 2260 leads me to believe it's a 2000 series card. Having the
 Vendor:Device ID pairing would help clarify, but looking at the pci id's
 database I'm guessing it's either 1002:95ce or 1002:95cf.

 Not sure how to get that - lspci -vvv | grep 1002 gets me nothing.

google is your friend, and you don't have to go through many pages of 
hits for that one:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Vendor%3ADevice+ID+pairingl=1


 Also, it appears that you're saying I need to downgrade his X (all of
 it?), and remove the kmod-fglrx, and install the legacy (is that the
 kmod-fglrx93?

 You have a number of choices:

 1. Use the v13.1 legacy driver from AMD and downgrade xorg\* to the last
 release that came with RHEL 6.3 and exclude future updates. If you wish
 to use the elrepo package it's called kmod-fglrx-legacy /
 fglrx-legacy-x11-drv (currently version 13.1-2) and is currently in the
 testing repo. Obviously downgrading xorg packages has potential security
 implications.

 That's become a no-starter: I tried to downgrade, and yum tells me there
 *is* no downgrade. If I understand correctly... I'd have to downgrade him
 to 6.3.

no.
only xorg and friends as Ned told you... you *will* have to do some repo 
configuring to do that, though. I'm sure google can help you there too.

that part of your email is probably irrelevant if you got it working 
with the radeon driver, but for the record...
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