Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-28 Thread Mark Hull-Richter
On Nov 27, 2007 3:26 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 $ rpm -q AdobeReader_enu
 AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386

 I don't know about others, but this one works fine for me.


I don't call this a real application as they don't support anything you
don't pay for.

E.g., AR 8.0 (?) is available for Windows and has been for months, now, but
not for Linux.

The Adobe Flash Player for (32-bit) browsers on Linux also works, most of
the time, but it, too, is a free application, which means Adobe doesn't
provide support for it, either.

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:29:50 -0800
Mark Hull-Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 E.g., AR 8.0 (?) is available for Windows and has been for months, now, but
 not for Linux.

AdobeReader_enu-8.1.1-1.i486.rpm




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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-28 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 28, 2007 3:29 AM, Mark Hull-Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 27, 2007 3:26 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  $ rpm -q AdobeReader_enu
  AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386
 
  I don't know about others, but this one works fine for me.
 

 I don't call this a real application as they don't support anything you
 don't pay for.

 E.g., AR 8.0 (?) is available for Windows and has been for months, now, but
 not for Linux.

  The Adobe Flash Player for (32-bit) browsers on Linux also works, most of
 the time, but it, too, is a free application, which means Adobe doesn't
 provide support for it, either.

 mhr



Just because there is no commercial support does not mean it isn't a
real application.  By your same reasoning Gimp or Linux or any of the
other open source applications are not real.

Besides, you won't get support for Adobe Reader or Flash Player on
Windows or Mac.

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-28 Thread William L. Maltby
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 00:29 -0800, Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
 On Nov 27, 2007 3:26 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  $ rpm -q AdobeReader_enu
  AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386
  
  I don't know about others, but this one works fine for me. 
  
 
 I don't call this a real application as they don't support anything
 you don't pay for.
 
 E.g., AR 8.0 (?) is available for Windows and has been for months,
 now, but not for Linux.
 
 The Adobe Flash Player for (32-bit) browsers on Linux also works, most
 of the time, but it, too, is a free application, which means Adobe
 doesn't provide support for it, either.

Looks like other folks have given responses I might have used. I will
only add that a piece of software that does what I want in a certain
context and has appropriate scope for my needs would qualify as an
application regardless of other considerations. It may not be the best
or meet everyones needs, but ...

 
 mhr
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RE: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-28 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Scott Ehrlich wrote:
 
 Also sent to Codeweavers - [what is this list's insights?]
 
 I have a 32 GB, dual quad-core desktop machine and was 
 considering 32-bit Windows XP w/SP2, but discovered it only 
 supports up to 4 GB RAM, so that idea is shot.
 
 Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows 
 would be very 
 active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.
 
 There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among 
 Matlab, Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from 
 Office 2003 to the above-mentioned ones.
 
 Do you support these, and how complete is your product line 
 for 64-bit CentOS 5?
 
 Based on your answer, I'll know whether to go with a virtual 
 machine-based solution, which means a Windows VM, or can 
 remain Linux-only, with your solution.

You will need a VM based solution. I don't know how good Xen
will be in 5.1, but it's an option.

I myself have been toying with the idea of a minimal CentOS 5.1
Xen install, no GUI just a small Dom0, and then running an
Ubuntu DomU with GUI on 1 virtual console and Windows XP on
another, possible a Fedora on a 3rd and keeping the VM images
in raw LVM LVs that are allocated and managed from the Dom0.

This may be the ideal way to go with such beefy hardware to
make sure you use up all those nice resources effectively.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-27 Thread William L. Maltby
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 16:28 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: 
 Scott Ehrlich wrote:
 snip


 AFAIK, no Adobe applications run under any form of Linux, except via VM 
 emulation.   If you're running Adobe apps on Windows in a VM under 
 Linux, and matlab/mathematica on Linux natively, copying data between 
 these will be awkward at best.
 snip sig stuff

$ lsb_release -a
LSB Version::core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:graphics-3.0-
ia32:graphics-3.0-noarch
Distributor ID: CentOS
Description:CentOS release 4.5 (Final)
Release:4.5
Codename:   Final

$ rpm -q AdobeReader_enu
AdobeReader_enu-7.0.9-1.i386

I don't know about others, but this one works fine for me.

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-27 Thread Ross S. W. Walker

You could try crossover office, it's reported to work with several windows apps 
from adobe. Photoshop I believe works.

-Ross


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Subject: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

Also sent to Codeweavers - [what is this list's insights?]

I have a 32 GB, dual quad-core desktop machine and was considering 32-bit 
Windows XP w/SP2, but discovered it only supports up to 4 GB RAM, so that idea 
is shot.

Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows would be very 
active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.

There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among Matlab, 
Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from Office 2003 to the 
above-mentioned ones.

Do you support these, and how complete is your product line for 64-bit CentOS 
5?

Based on your answer, I'll know whether to go with a virtual machine-based 
solution, which means a Windows VM, or can remain Linux-only, with your 
solution.

Thank you very much.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread John R Pierce

Scott Ehrlich wrote:

Also sent to Codeweavers - [what is this list's insights?]

I have a 32 GB, dual quad-core desktop machine and was considering 
32-bit Windows XP w/SP2, but discovered it only supports up to 4 GB 
RAM, so that idea is shot.


Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows would be 
very active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.


There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among Matlab, 
Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from Office 2003 to the 
above-mentioned ones.


Do you support these, and how complete is your product line for 64-bit 
CentOS 5?


Based on your answer, I'll know whether to go with a virtual 
machine-based solution, which means a Windows VM, or can remain 
Linux-only, with your solution.



AFAIK, no Adobe applications run under any form of Linux, except via VM 
emulation.   If you're running Adobe apps on Windows in a VM under 
Linux, and matlab/mathematica on Linux natively, copying data between 
these will be awkward at best.



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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread John R Pierce

Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Nov 23, 2007 4:28 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

AFAIK, no Adobe applications run under any form of Linux, except via VM
emulation.   If you're running Adobe apps on Windows in a VM under
Linux, and matlab/mathematica on Linux natively, copying data between
these will be awkward at best.



I run Windows as a vmware guest under a Linux host.  I have an ext3
partition that holds all data which Windows accesses through host's
samba and Linux accesses natively.  I've had this setup for quite a
number of years without any problem.  This also makes backup of
Windows data files very easy.
  


not easy like copy/pasting objects between apps on a single environment, 
however.

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread Mark Hull-Richter
On Nov 23, 2007 5:24 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Akemi Yagi wrote:
  On Nov 23, 2007 4:28 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I run Windows as a vmware guest under a Linux host.  I have an ext3
  partition that holds all data which Windows accesses through host's
  samba and Linux accesses natively.  I've had this setup for quite a
  number of years without any problem.  This also makes backup of
  Windows data files very easy.
 

 not easy like copy/pasting objects between apps on a single environment,
 however.


I run Photoshop Elements on my VM Windows guest and have no trouble
with copying, pasting, etc., except for the time delay - it takes a
little longer to access the host files through samba than directly
under CentOS.

I will freely admit, though, that I don't do a lot of graphics
manipulations in APSE - the main uses I have for it are printing
(sometimes - my GIMP just won't print images at all, and sometimes the
image viewer won't, either) and saving files in formats that GIMP
doesn't support.  Occasionally I'll also use APSE for quickie tweaks
because it has different features from GIMP.

The biggest advantages to running Windows as a VM under CentOS are, of
course, stability, reliability, and if your Windows guest crashes, you
can just reboot it.  If it crashes hard, and you take good care of
backing up your VM disk, you can restore it fairly quickly from your
last good backup.

But, you knew that, right?

:-)

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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Nov 23, 2007 4:28 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AFAIK, no Adobe applications run under any form of Linux, except via VM
 emulation.   If you're running Adobe apps on Windows in a VM under
 Linux, and matlab/mathematica on Linux natively, copying data between
 these will be awkward at best.

I run Windows as a vmware guest under a Linux host.  I have an ext3
partition that holds all data which Windows accesses through host's
samba and Linux accesses natively.  I've had this setup for quite a
number of years without any problem.  This also makes backup of
Windows data files very easy.

Akemi
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[CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread Scott Ehrlich

Also sent to Codeweavers - [what is this list's insights?]

I have a 32 GB, dual quad-core desktop machine and was considering 32-bit 
Windows XP w/SP2, but discovered it only supports up to 4 GB RAM, so that idea 
is shot.


Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows would be very 
active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.


There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among Matlab, 
Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from Office 2003 to the 
above-mentioned ones.


Do you support these, and how complete is your product line for 64-bit CentOS 
5?


Based on your answer, I'll know whether to go with a virtual machine-based 
solution, which means a Windows VM, or can remain Linux-only, with your 
solution.


Thank you very much.

Scott
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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Scott Ehrlich wrote:

Also sent to Codeweavers - [what is this list's insights?]

I have a 32 GB, dual quad-core desktop machine and was considering 
32-bit Windows XP w/SP2, but discovered it only supports up to 4 GB RAM, 
so that idea is shot.


Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows would be 
very active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.


There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among Matlab, 
Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from Office 2003 to the 
above-mentioned ones.


Do you support these, and how complete is your product line for 64-bit 
CentOS 5?


Based on your answer, I'll know whether to go with a virtual 
machine-based solution, which means a Windows VM, or can remain 
Linux-only, with your solution.


Thank you very much.

Scott


I think you should go for windows XP, as support for these apps is much 
better than in centos IMO

and 4 gigs should be fine for a desktop
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Re: [CentOS] Adobe products under Linux?

2007-11-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
Scott Ehrlich wrote:
 Next in line is 64-bit CentOS 5.   The major need for Windows would be
 very active use of Adobe Acrobat 8, Photoshop CS3, and Illustrator CS3.
 
 There may also be the need to copy/transfer information among Matlab,
 Mathematica, and Microsoft-based applications, from Office 2003 to the
 above-mentioned ones.

What does Adobe have to say about running these apps on CentOS-5/x86_64
? heck, do these things even run on Linux at all ? I suppose you can
locate alternatives

OR, do you really intend to even run these apps on that box of yours ?
or are you only looking for  virt abstract layer ?

 Do you support these, and how complete is your product line for 64-bit
 CentOS 5?

pretty complete I would say

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