Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Frank Cox 
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:52:22 -0400
Fred Smith wrote:

> > It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.
> 
> yes, I  have that too, and it works. But I don't know if it is a Mate
> utility, or a Gnome utility. it isn't obvious to me.

You can load it from the command line as gnome-disks.

Since it works fine under Mate, at least for me, there's no reason not to use 
it.

I use it for formatting flash drives.


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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Liam O'Toole 
On 2016-10-04, Frank Saporito
<frank.saporito...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem:
> Disk Utility was not avail.  I find Disk Utility very handy for
> managing RAID.
>
> Does anyone know if the good ole Gnome 3 Disk Utility has a Mate
> equivalent?
>
> thanks frank

(Please don't top-post.)

You can use GNOME Disk Utility (package gnome-disk-utility) within a
MATE session. It integrates quite nicely.

>
> On 10/03/2016 12:54 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>>> -Original Message- From:
>>> centos-boun...@centos.org
>>> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22 To:
>>> CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
>>>
>>>> Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>> Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
>> Infinality.
>>
>> It might be one of those imagination things.  When I looked this
>> morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.
>>
>>
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Fred Smith 
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 01:24:52PM +, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> > Behalf Of Frank Saporito
> > Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 15:00
> > To: centos@centos.org
> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> > 
> > I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem:
> > Disk Utility was not avail.  I find Disk Utility very handy for managing
> > RAID.
> 
> I have it on my C7-box. 
> It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.

yes, I  have that too, and it works. But I don't know if it is a Mate
utility, or a Gnome utility. it isn't obvious to me.

doing "yum list installed" shows a couple of items that it could be, but
I don't see anything named "disks" or including "disk" that also has
the word Mate in its package name, so it may be from Gnome, or elsewhere.

Fred


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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Frank Saporito
> Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 15:00
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem:
> Disk Utility was not avail.  I find Disk Utility very handy for managing
> RAID.

I have it on my C7-box. 
It's called "Disks" and is in the menu Applications - Utilities.
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-04 Thread Frank Saporito 
I looked at Mate Desktop for a CentOS 7 and recall having a problem: 
Disk Utility was not avail.  I find Disk Utility very handy for managing 
RAID.


Does anyone know if the good ole Gnome 3 Disk Utility has a Mate equivalent?

thanks
frank

On 10/03/2016 12:54 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi
Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22
To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI


Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.

Thanks!

Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?

Infinality.

It might be one of those imagination things.
When I looked this morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.



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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-03 Thread Mark LaPierre 
On 09/28/16 19:25, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
> dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
> Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
> associated with CentOS 7.
> 
> Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
> what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?
> 

You know, after I posted the original question I thought, Oh No! I've
just started a flame war, but I'm glad to see that was not the case.  It
appears that everyone who responded is in general agreement on the
subject.  Greg Bailey even came up with a helpful hint on improving the
font rendering on the desktop.

Thank you all for your input.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-10-02 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Gianluca Cecchi
> Sent: den 30 september 2016 14:22
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> > Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?

Infinality.

It might be one of those imagination things.
When I looked this morning I didn't see any Wow!-difference I did last week.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Gianluca Cecchi 
Il 30/Set/2016 11:11, "Sorin Srbu"  ha scritto:
>

>
> Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Do you mean with freetype-freeworld or infinality?
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
> Sent: den 30 september 2016 09:40
> To: 'CentOS mailing list' <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> > >> fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
> > >> freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
> > > Thanks for the hint!
> > >
> > > Is there however something fishy with the
> > > freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64?
> > > It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
> > >
> >
> > I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
> >
> > https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
> >
> > looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld",
> > whatever that is...  the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still
> > available via the link posted in that forum.
> 
> Thanks for the heads-up!
> 
> I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.

Worked fine. Seems to be a little sharper graphics now.

Thanks!

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread johan . vermeulen7 


- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
Van: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se>
Aan: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@centos.org>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 30 september 2016 09:39:30
Onderwerp: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Bailey
> Sent: den 30 september 2016 08:30
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> >> Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with
> >> the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering.
> >> For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the
> >> default C6 desktop until I installed:
> >>
> >> fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
> >> freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
> > Thanks for the hint!
> >
> > Is there however something fishy with the
> > freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64?
> > It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
> >
> 
> I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
> 
> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
> 
> looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld",
> whatever that is...  the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still
> available via the link posted in that forum.

Thanks for the heads-up!

I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.
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Hello,

I also have very good results with Centos7/Mate.
Just this one issue:

http://grokbase.com/t/centos/centos/156asvyam9/centos7-mate-zombie-printer-icon-remains-after-printing

greetings, J.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Bailey
> Sent: den 30 september 2016 08:30
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> >> Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with
> >> the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering.
> >> For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the
> >> default C6 desktop until I installed:
> >>
> >> fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
> >> freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64
> > Thanks for the hint!
> >
> > Is there however something fishy with the
> > freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64?
> > It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.
> >
> 
> I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.
> 
> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936
> 
> looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld",
> whatever that is...  the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still
> available via the link posted in that forum.

Thanks for the heads-up!

I'll give it a go during the day and see how it goes.
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Greg Bailey 

On 09/29/2016 11:21 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Bailey
Sent: den 30 september 2016 04:26
To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with
the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering.
For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the
default C6 desktop until I installed:

fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64

Thanks for the hint!

Is there however something fishy with the
freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64?
It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.



I hadn't noticed that it disappeared.

https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55936

looks relevant, but I haven't experimented with "freetype-freeworld", 
whatever that is...  the freetype-infinality RPM is apparently still 
available via the link posted in that forum.


-Greg

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Bailey
> Sent: den 30 september 2016 04:26
> To: CentOS mailing list <centos@centos.org>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
> 
> Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with
> the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering.
> For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the
> default C6 desktop until I installed:
> 
> fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
> freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64

Thanks for the hint!

Is there however something fishy with the
freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64?
It seems it cannot be found in the nux-dextop repo.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu 
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of Mark LaPierre
> Sent: den 29 september 2016 01:26
> To: Mail List CentOS Users <centos@centos.org>; Mark LaPierre
> <marklap...@aol.com>
> Subject: [CentOS] Alternative GUI
>
> I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
> dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
> Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
> associated with CentOS 7.
>
> Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
> what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate
> instead?

Yupp, I have.
First thing I did after C7-installation was to install the complete 
Mate-shebang.
FWIW, I installed Ubuntu-Mate on my backup-laptop.

You're giving up a lot of grief and irritation when not finding stuff you've 
used for like ten years and having to relearn yet other things.
It's just not worth the hassle IMO.

I'm yet to miss anything Gnome 3 has to offer.
Gnome 3 might be good for some people, for others like me it's just a waste of 
time relearning stuff that worked just fine before Gnome 3.

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Peter Q. 
The mate desktop is very good!
On Sep 29, 2016 8:41 PM, "Fred Smith"  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
> > dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
> > Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
> > associated with CentOS 7.
> >
> > Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
> > what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate
> instead?
>
> I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I
> dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)
>
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Devin Reade 

> On Sep 28, 2016, at 17:25, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
> 
>  In your experienced opinion
> what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?

Giving up? A vast number of annoyances. Make the leap. 
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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Alice Wonder 



On 09/29/2016 07:25 PM, Greg Bailey wrote:

On 09/29/2016 06:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:

Hey All,

I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
associated with CentOS 7.

Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate
instead?

I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I
dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on
us! :)



I also run MATE on CentOS 7, for the same reasons.


Same here however with the my latest system build I set one account up 
to use GNOME 3 and it definitely has considerably improved since when 
CentOS 7 first shipped.


MATE is still better IMHO but I now have some hope for GNOME 3.

Still feels like it is trying to be a tablet OS but not quite as much.

I still couldn't figure out how to do things like get green text on 
black background in the Terminal (easy in Mate) or get the Applications 
menu with submenus - but it was easier to use than what initially shipped.


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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Greg Bailey 

On 09/29/2016 06:41 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:

Hey All,

I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
associated with CentOS 7.

Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?

I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I
dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)



I also run MATE on CentOS 7, for the same reasons.

Only additional thing I did was to install the "nux" repo, along with 
the infinality font rpms, which drastically improved font rendering.  
For some reason, the default C7 desktop never looked as good as the 
default C6 desktop until I installed:


fontconfig-infinality-1-20120615_1.noarch
freetype-infinality-2.4.12-2.20130514_01.el7.nux.1.x86_64

-Greg


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Re: [CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Fred Smith 
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:25:54PM -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
> dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
> Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
> associated with CentOS 7.
> 
> Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
> what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?

I'm using Mate on several C7 systems. The only issue is that now I
dont have to try to use that horrid Gnome thing they've inflicted on us! :)

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[CentOS] Alternative GUI

2016-09-29 Thread Mark LaPierre 
Hey All,

I'm considering moving from CentOS 6 to CentOS 7.  I'm not interested in
dealing with Gnome 3.  I've heard good things about Mate, a fork of
Gnome 2.  it appears that Mate is available in the EPEL repository
associated with CentOS 7.

Have any of you tried Mate on CentOS 7?  In your experienced opinion
what would I be giving up by abandoning Gnome 3 and installing Mate instead?

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