Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes

Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:

Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   I'd prefer to
have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...

Thanks,
-at


It normally just works on most wireless cards (centos in general, not 
necessarily the live CD).


I will burn and boot the live CD on my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and see 
how NetworkManager works here and get back to you.


What kind of laptop is it?
Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I have had a terrible time with NetworkManager.

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:

Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   I'd prefer to
have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...

Thanks,
-at


It normally just works on most wireless cards (centos in general, not 
necessarily the live CD).


I will burn and boot the live CD on my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and 
see how NetworkManager works here and get back to you.


What kind of laptop is it?
I have pretty much given up on NetworkManager.  I try it time to time 
after a clean boot, but most of the time, it will just NOT connect.


I am an 'old had' at modifying /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, 
and I have simple scripts (for themost part) to run things.  I have a 
script called wlan:


ifconfig eth1 up
/usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant -B -dd -K -D wext -i eth1 -c 
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf



That works well with the Intel card in my HP nc2400.  The ifcfg-eth1 is 
fairly simple:


TYPE=Wireless
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:1b:77:43:09:78
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
NETMASK=
DHCP_HOSTNAME=nc2400.htt-consult.com
IPADDR=
DOMAIN=
ONBOOT=no
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=yes

I do find that the BOOTPROTO=dhcp does not 'work' and I have to run 
dhclient eth1 to get a lease.


If I get into a new area (did that a LOT these past couple weeks), I run 
/usr/sbin/wpa_cli and do a scan and scan_results to get the SSID, edit 
the wpa_supplicant.conf file, the a reconfigure within wpa_cli.


All works; all manual.  But I clean everything out and NetworkManager 
just does not seem to work for me.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:

Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   I'd prefer to
have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...

Thanks,
-at


It normally just works on most wireless cards (centos in general, not 
necessarily the live CD).


I will burn and boot the live CD on my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and see 
how NetworkManager works here and get back to you.




Just for the record, the LiveCD does not work with my Inspiron 6000 at 
all (some IDE/SATA issues when running the live CD) ... but this laptop 
works fine with a real install of CentOS-5.2.  So, for most machines a 
working Live CD means CentOS should work, but not on all. 
Unfortunately, I can not test how NetworkManager works with this machine.


If you are installing your laptop from scratch, then I would recommend 
that you try installing CentOS-5.2 and see what happens.


Also, you can look in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf to see if CentOS sees the 
wireless NIC as a network card and what driver it is trying to use ... 
or if you need something like external firmware, etc.



What kind of laptop is it?





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-08 Thread Johnny Hughes

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have had a terrible time with NetworkManager.

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote:

Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   I'd prefer to
have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...

Thanks,
-at


It normally just works on most wireless cards (centos in general, not 
necessarily the live CD).


I will burn and boot the live CD on my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and 
see how NetworkManager works here and get back to you.


What kind of laptop is it?
I have pretty much given up on NetworkManager.  I try it time to time 
after a clean boot, but most of the time, it will just NOT connect.


I am an 'old had' at modifying /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, 
and I have simple scripts (for themost part) to run things.  I have a 
script called wlan:


ifconfig eth1 up
/usr/sbin/wpa_supplicant wpa_supplicant -B -dd -K -D wext -i eth1 -c 
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf



That works well with the Intel card in my HP nc2400.  The ifcfg-eth1 is 
fairly simple:


TYPE=Wireless
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:1b:77:43:09:78
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
NETMASK=
DHCP_HOSTNAME=nc2400.htt-consult.com
IPADDR=
DOMAIN=
ONBOOT=no
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=yes

I do find that the BOOTPROTO=dhcp does not 'work' and I have to run 
dhclient eth1 to get a lease.


If I get into a new area (did that a LOT these past couple weeks), I run 
/usr/sbin/wpa_cli and do a scan and scan_results to get the SSID, edit 
the wpa_supplicant.conf file, the a reconfigure within wpa_cli.


All works; all manual.  But I clean everything out and NetworkManager 
just does not seem to work for me.


That is certainly likely ... The state of wireless cards and firmware on 
Linux is not yet wonderful, some wireless devices work great others do not.


I have a Intel 2200 device (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG 
Network Connection) ... and it uses the ipw2200 driver.  Other than the 
fact that I had to get the latest firmware from Dag's repo, it works fine.


I would certainly recommend trying NetworkManager first and if it does 
not work, then going the other route.


I was able to use the wpa_supplicant and its conf file to make this work 
too, but it was much harder and NetworkManager is great everywhere I go 
to get connected ... of course YMMV :-D.





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-08 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Thanks for testing the Live CD on your Inspiron laptop, Johnny.

Ok, next stop, install CentOS to the hard drive.   Thanks!

Aleksey
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-07 Thread Johnny Hughes

MHR wrote:

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

WRT wireless on CentOS, use NetworkManager to find and connect to networks
...

You can see if it is installed with the command:

rpm -qa | egrep NetworkManager|wpa_supplicant

If installed, the output is similar to this:

NetworkManager-0.6.4-8.el5
NetworkManager-glib-0.6.4-8.el5
NetworkManager-gnome-0.6.4-8.el5
wpa_supplicant-0.4.8-10.2.el5

If not, install with thsi command:

yum install NetworkManger\* wpa_supplicant

The run NetworkManager from the command line.

You will see a NetworkManager applet beside the clock and you should be able
to click it and pick a network.

Here are more details for how to setup NetworkManager:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/NetworkManager



The OP was wondering if this was possible from the live CD - I'm
wondering if installing a (missing?) package is the right solution in
/that/ case.

For (normal) CentOS, I have used a USB plugin wireless adapter on my
laptop with excellent success, although it is not as easy as (okay, I
won't name that other excuse for an OS) 1-2-3 - it takes some looking
to find the whole enchilada, but it /is/ find-able.



you can install packages on the live CD for centos-5



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-07 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Hi.  Thanks again for all your replies.

The CentOS 5.2 Live CD does include NetworkManager.

However the only choice in the Network Manager applet is Wired Network.

I then tried Ubuntu Live CD.   Using it's network manager, I was able
to browse the several local wireless networks, and to successfully
connect.

This is on an IBM T42 laptop.

Best,
Aleksey
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-07 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   I'd prefer to
have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...

Thanks,
-at
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-07 Thread Mark Pryor



--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Aleksey Tsalolikhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Aleksey Tsalolikhin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:24 PM
 Hi.  Thanks again for all your replies.
 
 The CentOS 5.2 Live CD does include NetworkManager.
 
 However the only choice in the Network Manager applet is
 Wired Network.
 

Using C5.1 and KDE, I use the kNetworkManager built from fc6.

#chkconfig NetworkManager on
#chkconfig NetworkManagerDispatcher on

#/etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
(ditto for dispatch)

Anything that shows from
#iwlist scan

also shows in the knetworkmanager AP list.

-- 
Mark




  
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-07 Thread D Steward
 Any suggestions on how to make this work under CentOS?   
What errors are you getting in the log files?
What is your wireless card/chipset?

 I'd prefer to
 have CentOS on my laptop, to keep it the same OS as our servers.I
 don't want to learn two flavors of Linux...
fedora is very close to CentOS. Some of the directory structures and
configuration are only slightly different.
Most of my scripts created on fedora work without needing changes on
Centos 5.2
If your laptop is Centrino-based or uses an Intel chipset, fedora will
connect you to a WPA network out-of-the-box just like Ubuntu did.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-06 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WRT wireless on CentOS, use NetworkManager to find and connect to networks
 ...

 You can see if it is installed with the command:

 rpm -qa | egrep NetworkManager|wpa_supplicant

 If installed, the output is similar to this:

 NetworkManager-0.6.4-8.el5
 NetworkManager-glib-0.6.4-8.el5
 NetworkManager-gnome-0.6.4-8.el5
 wpa_supplicant-0.4.8-10.2.el5

 If not, install with thsi command:

 yum install NetworkManger\* wpa_supplicant

 The run NetworkManager from the command line.

 You will see a NetworkManager applet beside the clock and you should be able
 to click it and pick a network.

 Here are more details for how to setup NetworkManager:

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/NetworkManager

Although not quite as extensive as the Fedora Wiki page, we have our
own CentOS Wiki for NetworkManager at:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/NetworkManager

At the bottom of the page it says There is nothing more to it !   :-D

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 -- how do I choose a wireless network?

2008-08-06 Thread MHR
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WRT wireless on CentOS, use NetworkManager to find and connect to networks
 ...

 You can see if it is installed with the command:

 rpm -qa | egrep NetworkManager|wpa_supplicant

 If installed, the output is similar to this:

 NetworkManager-0.6.4-8.el5
 NetworkManager-glib-0.6.4-8.el5
 NetworkManager-gnome-0.6.4-8.el5
 wpa_supplicant-0.4.8-10.2.el5

 If not, install with thsi command:

 yum install NetworkManger\* wpa_supplicant

 The run NetworkManager from the command line.

 You will see a NetworkManager applet beside the clock and you should be able
 to click it and pick a network.

 Here are more details for how to setup NetworkManager:

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/NetworkManager


The OP was wondering if this was possible from the live CD - I'm
wondering if installing a (missing?) package is the right solution in
/that/ case.

For (normal) CentOS, I have used a USB plugin wireless adapter on my
laptop with excellent success, although it is not as easy as (okay, I
won't name that other excuse for an OS) 1-2-3 - it takes some looking
to find the whole enchilada, but it /is/ find-able.

mhr
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