Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-07 Thread Bob Arnold
On 12/6/10 3:54 PM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to 
 the CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, hard 
 disk, ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a driver and wants me to 
 manually specify or use a driver disk.

 I ave no idea what drive is in this system.

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 -Jason
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You need to install and use Apple's Boot Camp to make CentOS work on a 
Mac Mini. It will install a utility on the drive that will make the Mini 
look like an ordinary system instead of the Apple based hardware 
including standard drivers for the Cd/DVD and hard drives and network 
and sound support. I have an old single core Mac Mini running CentOS 5 
32 bit just fine.

One problem though is that I believe that Snow Leopard Server version 
does NOT come with Boot Camp. If so you'll need to get a version of Snow 
Leopard that does have Boot Camp available. I think the Standard version 
of Snow Leopard is about $30.00 from Apple.

If you need help I can be available via Skype to answer your questions.

Bob Arnold

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-07 Thread Nataraj
You need to install and use Apple's Boot Camp to make CentOS work on a
 Mac Mini. It will install a utility on the drive that will make the Mini 
 look like an ordinary system instead of the Apple based hardware 
 including standard drivers for the Cd/DVD and hard drives and network 
 and sound support. I have an old single core Mac Mini running CentOS 5 
 32 bit just fine.

 One problem though is that I believe that Snow Leopard Server version 
 does NOT come with Boot Camp. If so you'll need to get a version of Snow 
 Leopard that does have Boot Camp available. I think the Standard version 
 of Snow Leopard is about $30.00 from Apple.

 If you need help I can be available via Skype to answer your questions.

 Bob Arnold

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Refit is commonly used to boot multiple OS's on the mac mini and is 
fairly easy to install (you can burn a CD of it and boot from that to 
test first). I've booted the Fedora14 liveCD on my mac mini and the disk 
drivers DO work. Also Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (lucid) has working drivers. I 
believe that grub2 can directly boot linux without bootcamp or refit, 
but may not be easy to setup.

For most of the livecd's you'll need to go to manually edit the grub 
command line and add nomodeset reboot=pci. nomodeset may not be needed 
on the latest kernels. If you lose video, then you need it.

For all but the latest kernels you'll need to download broadcom tg3 
drivers from the broadcom website and compile them for the ethernet to 
work. Fedora14 has current broadcom drivers.

You may also need to download a driver for the wireless.

For sound you may need the following, or the equivalent for your 
distribution:
echo 'options snd-hda-intel model=mbp55'  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

The real gotcha for the mac mini and all mac's is the GPT partition 
table. The major problem is that most of the gpt partitioning tools are 
still pretty flakey and turn on incorrect bits or in some other way set 
something in the partition table that some other program doesn't like. 
If you manage to do an install and it works the first time you are 
lucky, but once it fails you can pull your hair out trying to fix the 
partition table. This is definitely not recommended for the inexperienced.

I believe that Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS (lucid), the standard live install CD 
(NOT the alternate install), might be your best bet for a trouble free 
installation. When you boot the livecd, you'll want to keep hitting keys 
as it's booting to force the grub menu's to come up. (in fedora14, just 
hit a space when you get the boot timeout message, then hit tab to edit 
the boot command line). After you enter your language, hit F6 and select 
'nomodeset' (space selects, escape exits this menu). Then use your arrow 
keys and move back on the boot line and add 'reboot=pci'. If you forget 
reboot=pci you can always power cycle to boot.

You'll also want the Nvidia drivers

I will be installing fedora14 at some point soon.

In general, linux on the Mac Mini is not an easy install though it can 
be done.

The following might be useful, though is not completely up to date:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Macmini4-1/Lucid

Nataraj



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[CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Jason T. Slack-Moehrle
Hi All,

I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to the 
CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, hard disk, 
ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a driver and wants me to 
manually specify or use a driver disk.

I ave no idea what drive is in this system. 

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

-Jason
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Jason T. Slack-Moehrle
OK, my problems get worse.

I connected an external USB DVD Drive and that worked.

Now, however, no hard disks are recognized

I was really hoping to run CentOS on this machine, but I guess back to Snow 
Leopard Server I go

On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to 
 the CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, hard 
 disk, ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a driver and wants me to 
 manually specify or use a driver disk.
 
 I ave no idea what drive is in this system. 
 
 Can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
 -Jason
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 03:54:15 pm Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to 
 the CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, hard 
 disk, ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a driver and wants me to 
 manually specify or use a driver disk.

Boot from the USB CD into rescue mode; once you have a command line, what does 
the output of 'lspci -v' show?

The kernel in C5.5 may just simply not have the driver for the chipset; you may 
need to either install a Fedora with the right driver in-kernel, or wait on C6.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Keith Keller
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 06:43:38PM -0500, Lamar Owen wrote:
 On Monday, December 06, 2010 03:54:15 pm Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
  
  I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to 
  the CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, 
  hard disk, ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a driver and 
  wants me to manually specify or use a driver disk.
 
 Boot from the USB CD into rescue mode; once you have a command line, what 
 does the output of 'lspci -v' show?
 
 The kernel in C5.5 may just simply not have the driver for the chipset; you 
 may need to either install a Fedora with the right driver in-kernel, or wait 
 on C6.

I apologize for jumping in mid-thread, but I deleted the other messages
before reading them.  :(

I am wondering if this is related to the disk controller issue that's
been reported for recent MBP models?  I think it's the mcp89 driver in
the kernel.  If that's the case, then you may not even be saved by
CentOS 6; I booted the latest RHEL6 beta (just before the release
version was put out) and it, too, did not recognize the MBP7,1's
controller.  Fedora 14 did recognize it, so it should be just a matter
of getting a recent kernel that has the patch.

As a test, you might consider getting a Fedora 14 live CD and see if it
can find the drives.  If so, it may be the same issue.  It's possible
that the release version of RHEL 6 supports it, if you can get hold of
it to test it, or you may just want to put Fedora 14 on it if the
difference doesn't bother you too much.  (If you're skilled in this area
you can attempt to build your own install CD/DVD with your own custom
kernel that has the patch, but that may be more time than you're willing
to invest.)

Ah, it looks like the Mini does have the mcp89 controller:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608034


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Jason T. Slack-Moehrle

Hi Keith,

 As a test, you might consider getting a Fedora 14 live CD and see if it
 can find the drives.  If so, it may be the same issue.  It's possible
 that the release version of RHEL 6 supports it, if you can get hold of
 it to test it, or you may just want to put Fedora 14 on it if the
 difference doesn't bother you too much.  

I just know CentOS really. Can I adapt easily? I assume things like yum and 
apache conf, etc are the same?

-Jason
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Keith Keller
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 04:19:43PM -0800, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
 
 I just know CentOS really. Can I adapt easily? I assume things like yum and 
 apache conf, etc are the same?

You know just as much about Fedora as I do!  ;-)  If I'm able to make
time to install it to my MBP, it'll be my first Fedora install.

Fedora is the beta/testbed for RHEL, so it should be fairly similar to
CentOS.  In particular it does come with yum, its own repository, and
can be configured to access other repos.  In theory config files for
various apps should be in the same place but you should not 100% count
on it.  I'm guessing (but, again, don't know) that if you went to a
Fedora list and said, I'm looking for xxx, which on CentOS 5 was in yyy
location, where is it in Fedora 14? someone would know.

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