Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread Kai Schaetzl
David Lemcoe wrote on Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:12:33 -0400:

 So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
 method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.

Yes, this message contains in-reply-to/references. The others did not. 
Which means that there is no threading available for them.

Kai

-- 
Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany
Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com



___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread RedShift
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.

You have to do that yourself. You know, do what a sysadmin does? :-)


Glenn


 --Original Message--
 From: Brian Mathis
 Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org
 To: CentOS Mailing list
 ReplyTo: CentOS Mailing list
 Sent: Apr 7, 2009 19:00
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box
 
 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

 Thanks,
 David
 
 
 Not every server is a web server.
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
 
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
 
 

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
David Lemcoe wrote:
 So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
 method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.
 

as Kai already pointed out - it has the in-reply-to headers, so thats 
one issue fixed. Would still be nice if you could trim your posts.

- KB
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread David Lemcoe
So now I know to use the GMail app for Blackberry. Nice to know.

On 4/8/09, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 David Lemcoe wrote:
 So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
 method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.


 as Kai already pointed out - it has the in-reply-to headers, so thats
 one issue fixed. Would still be nice if you could trim your posts.

 - KB
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


[CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David M Lemcoe Jr.
Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound port 
80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall error 
because I can ping but not http request. 

Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

Thanks,

David
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

 Thanks,
 David


Not every server is a web server.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David M Lemcoe Jr.
Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.
--Original Message--
From: Brian Mathis
Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org
To: CentOS Mailing list
ReplyTo: CentOS Mailing list
Sent: Apr 7, 2009 19:00
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

 Thanks,
 David


Not every server is a web server.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request. 
 
post install reboot, you would normally get a text/graphical UI that 
lets you setup firewall policy, selinux policy amongst other things. 
Just add port 80 to the list of ports you'd want open on all interfaces.

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

its still broken.

-- 
Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/  : 2522...@icq
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 22:57 +, David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request. 
 
 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

run program...

system-config-securitylevel

and you can select various well-known ports or just add your own 'lesser
known' port numbers.

Craig


-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Heller
On 7 Apr 2009, at 15:57, David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:

 by default, iptables is blocking inbound port 80 requests. This  
 leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall error because I  
 can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

it's a secure default.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.

On 4/7/09, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've
 installed CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is
 blocking inbound port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a
 non-OS firewall error because I can ping but not http request.

 post install reboot, you would normally get a text/graphical UI that
 lets you setup firewall policy, selinux policy amongst other things.
 Just add port 80 to the list of ports you'd want open on all interfaces.

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 its still broken.

 --
 Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/  : 2522...@icq
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
CentOS does not open ports like that when you install a package,
that's something you have to do yourself.

I recently heard a podcast (http://twit.tv/floss62) talking about eBox
which sounded like a management platform that does something like what
you are looking for.



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:02 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.


 --Original Message--
 From: Brian Mathis
 Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org
 To: CentOS Mailing list
 ReplyTo: CentOS Mailing list
 Sent: Apr 7, 2009 19:00
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr. fo...@lemcoe.com wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

 Thanks,
 David


 Not every server is a web server.
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Michael A. Peters
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
 CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
 port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
 error because I can ping but not http request. 
 
 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

Very few ports are open out of the box.
I'm not sure, but I think if you choose the webserver (or is it server 
??) option at install it might have port 80 open.

Port 22 is open for ssh. I think 631 (cups) is as well, but not positive.

You can configure the firewall with system-config-securitylevel-tui 
after install (it runs during firstboot as well) where you can easily 
tell it to turn on port 80 (and/or 443) for web services.

pinging a box has nothing to do with ports are blocked, open, or closed.
You can filter pings but I don't believe the firewall does by default.
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
Thank you for the reply. I think it's server, and even though I
select that, it is still blocked.

I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.

Thanks agin for the reply!

On 4/7/09, Michael A. Peters mpet...@mac.com wrote:
 David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
 Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've
 installed CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is
 blocking inbound port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a
 non-OS firewall error because I can ping but not http request.

 Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

 Very few ports are open out of the box.
 I'm not sure, but I think if you choose the webserver (or is it server
 ??) option at install it might have port 80 open.

 Port 22 is open for ssh. I think 631 (cups) is as well, but not positive.

 You can configure the firewall with system-config-securitylevel-tui
 after install (it runs during firstboot as well) where you can easily
 tell it to turn on port 80 (and/or 443) for web services.

 pinging a box has nothing to do with ports are blocked, open, or closed.
 You can filter pings but I don't believe the firewall does by default.
 ___
 CentOS mailing list
 CentOS@centos.org
 http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, David Lemcoe wrote:
Thank you for the reply. I think it's server, and even though I
select that, it is still blocked.

I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.

What does ``lsof -n -i:80'' show?  Perhaps the server is running,
but listening only on 127.0.0.1, localhost?

Bill
-- 
INTERNET:   b...@celestial.com  Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
URL: http://www.celestial.com/  PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
Voice:  (206) 236-1676  Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820
Fax:(206) 232-9186

A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.
  --  H. L. Mencken
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos


Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, David Lemcoe wrote:
 Thank you for the reply. I think it's server, and even though I
 select that, it is still blocked.
 
 I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
 problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.

 What does ``lsof -n -i:80'' show?  Perhaps the server is running,
 but listening only on 127.0.0.1, localhost?

No I figured it out, thank you!
___
CentOS mailing list
CentOS@centos.org
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos