Re: [CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread John R Pierce

Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

Hmmm that might be my problem. I had not looked at what additional
paths were there. The boxes I am supposed to support are 2.7,2.8,2.9
and 2.10 so I am going to have to figure out a way to 'unify' them as
much as possible without breaking the core application's needs.
  


Solaris 7 (2.7, sunos 5.7) is way past end of service life, and 8 is 
nearly there.   9 is nearing the end. it doesn't make any sense to 
support anything older than Solaris 9 and 10 for a new piece of software 
unless you're going after some really krufty old markets.



its quite easy to write software and use a build tool chain that 
supports both solaris and linux, just constrain your developers to a 
POSIX base level of tools and don't let them snap at every flashy 
oddball new tool just because you can.   write your shell scripts to 
bourne shell rather than bash and they should work on both.   use perl 
for most other scripting that sh isn't suitable for.Sun provides GCC 
with solaris 10 at least, in /usr/sfw/bin, however the Sun Studio C++ 
compiler, available free (installs to /opt/SUNWspro/bin) is a better 
compiler for complex C++ projects.


also, a bunch of the GPL tools Linux developers may rely on are on the 
Solaris 10 Companion CD, these install to /opt/sfw


if you need a robust apache+php+mysql environment on Solaris 10, use the 
"Coolstack" package http://cooltools.sunsource.net/coolstack/
(they also have a newer/better perl5, python, tomcat, and various other 
OSS stuffs).





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Peter Arremann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 21 September 2008 06:23:54 pm Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> Well having spent a week on Solaris 10.. I can understand why. Most of
>> the tools I am used to getting in a base install of CentOS are not
>> there.. and I will be spending most of this week getting various tools
>> installed so that the programmers do not need to have a crazy chain of
>> if/else logic to deal with OS of the week.
>
> If that's your only complaint then download the latest version of Nevada.
> Build 98 has a lot of the software you miss in Sol10. Not quite on
> OpenSolaris level but its a big step up anyway.
>
> Oh, and make sure /usr/sfw is actually in your path...

Hmmm that might be my problem. I had not looked at what additional
paths were there. The boxes I am supposed to support are 2.7,2.8,2.9
and 2.10 so I am going to have to figure out a way to 'unify' them as
much as possible without breaking the core application's needs.

>
> Linux/Sparc is fragile at best. Even Ubuntu/Sparc on a T2000 (a Sun certified
> configuration) isn't nearly as stable as Solaris on the same HW.
>

Sounds like it was back when Red Hat was shipping it in 5.x..

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread Peter Arremann
On Sunday 21 September 2008 06:23:54 pm Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> Well having spent a week on Solaris 10.. I can understand why. Most of
> the tools I am used to getting in a base install of CentOS are not
> there.. and I will be spending most of this week getting various tools
> installed so that the programmers do not need to have a crazy chain of
> if/else logic to deal with OS of the week.

If that's your only complaint then download the latest version of Nevada. 
Build 98 has a lot of the software you miss in Sol10. Not quite on 
OpenSolaris level but its a big step up anyway. 

Oh, and make sure /usr/sfw is actually in your path...

Linux/Sparc is fragile at best. Even Ubuntu/Sparc on a T2000 (a Sun certified 
configuration) isn't nearly as stable as Solaris on the same HW.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rainer Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 21.09.2008 um 22:59 schrieb Bernard 'Tux' Lheureux:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just received a SunFire 880 machine and would like to install CentOS
>> on it I think it is possible but should be very interested on advices
>> and tips & tricks on how to do it the best way...
>> Thanks for your help...
>
>
> Does CentOS actually exist for SPARC?
>
> You can (and should) install Solaris on it. (Trying to go with CenOS on this
> box is bordering the bizarre, IMO).
> What specs does your V880 have?
>
> I'm always puzzled why people would go to great lengths just to install
> _favorite_OS on some hardware that is otherwise fully supported by
> _native_OS.

Well having spent a week on Solaris 10.. I can understand why. Most of
the tools I am used to getting in a base install of CentOS are not
there.. and I will be spending most of this week getting various tools
installed so that the programmers do not need to have a crazy chain of
if/else logic to deal with OS of the week.

In the end, the need for diversity of Unix's is good to see what ideas
are better in the long run, but when it makes development slower... it
becomes a drag that causes the out-liers to be tossed :/. So in those
cases you end up replacing Solaris with Linux or some other OS that
you are familiar with.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 21.09.2008 um 22:59 schrieb Bernard 'Tux' Lheureux:


Hi all,

I just received a SunFire 880 machine and would like to install CentOS
on it I think it is possible but should be very interested on advices
and tips & tricks on how to do it the best way...
Thanks for your help...



Does CentOS actually exist for SPARC?

You can (and should) install Solaris on it. (Trying to go with CenOS  
on this box is bordering the bizarre, IMO).

What specs does your V880 have?

I'm always puzzled why people would go to great lengths just to  
install _favorite_OS on some hardware that is otherwise fully  
supported by _native_OS.






Rainer
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[CentOS] CentOS on a Sunfire 880

2008-09-21 Thread Bernard 'Tux' Lheureux

Hi all,

I just received a SunFire 880 machine and would like to install CentOS
on it I think it is possible but should be very interested on advices
and tips & tricks on how to do it the best way...
Thanks for your help...

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