Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-20 Thread wwp
Hello Ljubomir,


On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 00:49:29 +0200 Ljubomir Ljubojevic cen...@plnet.rs wrote:

 On 07/19/2014 11:55 PM, wwp wrote:
  Hello there,
  
  
  the *old* PC (Turion 64 MT-32 800MHz, 1Gb RAM) of my gf is running
  Windows XP, and I plan on installing a CentOS beside of it, allowing
  her to select the OS at boot-time. Other system/OS installing options
  are not retained, please avoid ;-).
  
  My first attempt was to install the CentOS7 GNOME-Live on a USB
  flashdisk and to boot it on the machine. It was either freezing at grub
  stage (!?) or later at GDM login stage. I gave up.
  
  Then I installed the CentOS6 LiveCD on the USB flashdisk, and booted in
  on the machine. Works fine so far, but it cannot mount the Windows NTFS
  partition (unknown partition type - no NTFS driver in the Live system?)
  so I cannot either access the user data in the NTFS partition, nor
  shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on
  disk.
  
  So I'm wondering, if ever I boot from a pmagic live system and succeed
  in shrinking down the NTFS and make room for the CentOS6 install:
  
   - will the CentOS6 live system be able to install at all and allow
 dual boot so that it's conservative WRT the existing Windows system?
  
   - once installed, will the CentOS6 system be able to mount read-WRITE
 the NTFS partition (even if I have to install an alternative
 repository)? Read-only would be useless to us.
  
   - why not, is there a way I could get success with the CentOS7? If
 not, the CentOS6 is fine with me.
  
  Those are the pre-requisites for me to run CentOS6 on this - ah-hum -
  slow system and be happy with it.
  
  Any though?
  
 
 NTFS needs package ntfs-3g from EPEL.

ntfs-3g was what I needed, thanks a bunch!


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[CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread wwp
Hello there,


the *old* PC (Turion 64 MT-32 800MHz, 1Gb RAM) of my gf is running
Windows XP, and I plan on installing a CentOS beside of it, allowing
her to select the OS at boot-time. Other system/OS installing options
are not retained, please avoid ;-).

My first attempt was to install the CentOS7 GNOME-Live on a USB
flashdisk and to boot it on the machine. It was either freezing at grub
stage (!?) or later at GDM login stage. I gave up.

Then I installed the CentOS6 LiveCD on the USB flashdisk, and booted in
on the machine. Works fine so far, but it cannot mount the Windows NTFS
partition (unknown partition type - no NTFS driver in the Live system?)
so I cannot either access the user data in the NTFS partition, nor
shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on
disk.

So I'm wondering, if ever I boot from a pmagic live system and succeed
in shrinking down the NTFS and make room for the CentOS6 install:

 - will the CentOS6 live system be able to install at all and allow
   dual boot so that it's conservative WRT the existing Windows system?

 - once installed, will the CentOS6 system be able to mount read-WRITE
   the NTFS partition (even if I have to install an alternative
   repository)? Read-only would be useless to us.

 - why not, is there a way I could get success with the CentOS7? If
   not, the CentOS6 is fine with me.

Those are the pre-requisites for me to run CentOS6 on this - ah-hum -
slow system and be happy with it.

Any though?


Regards,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/19/2014 2:55 PM, wwp wrote:
 nor
 shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on
 disk.

I strongly dislike shrinking file systems in place, and prefer to backup 
the whole FS, repartition the disk, then restore the FS to the new 
smaller partition.   for Windows NTFS systems, I usually do this with 
Acronis True Image Home.

but, I really dislike multibooting different OS's, its just a general 
pain.there's all sorts of gotchas, for example: do NOT let the 
windows system hibernate instead of fully shut down if you're going to 
touch NTFS with another OS or you'll likely get some hellacious file 
system corruptions.





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Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread wwp
Hello John,


On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:07:08 -0700 John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:

 On 7/19/2014 2:55 PM, wwp wrote:
  nor
  shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on
  disk.
 
 I strongly dislike shrinking file systems in place, and prefer to backup 
 the whole FS, repartition the disk, then restore the FS to the new 
 smaller partition.   for Windows NTFS systems, I usually do this with 
 Acronis True Image Home.
 
 but, I really dislike multibooting different OS's, its just a general 
 pain.there's all sorts of gotchas, for example: do NOT let the 
 windows system hibernate instead of fully shut down if you're going to 
 touch NTFS with another OS or you'll likely get some hellacious file 
 system corruptions.

Well, to my (pretty long) experience in computers (though I'm still
asking for advice), I quite never met any of the points you're
mentioning, with dual boots and shrinking system FS's. Anyhow,
accepting your experience and thanking you for sharing it, I don't find
in you reply any answer to my question ;-).


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/19/2014 11:55 PM, wwp wrote:
 Hello there,
 
 
 the *old* PC (Turion 64 MT-32 800MHz, 1Gb RAM) of my gf is running
 Windows XP, and I plan on installing a CentOS beside of it, allowing
 her to select the OS at boot-time. Other system/OS installing options
 are not retained, please avoid ;-).
 
 My first attempt was to install the CentOS7 GNOME-Live on a USB
 flashdisk and to boot it on the machine. It was either freezing at grub
 stage (!?) or later at GDM login stage. I gave up.
 
 Then I installed the CentOS6 LiveCD on the USB flashdisk, and booted in
 on the machine. Works fine so far, but it cannot mount the Windows NTFS
 partition (unknown partition type - no NTFS driver in the Live system?)
 so I cannot either access the user data in the NTFS partition, nor
 shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on
 disk.
 
 So I'm wondering, if ever I boot from a pmagic live system and succeed
 in shrinking down the NTFS and make room for the CentOS6 install:
 
  - will the CentOS6 live system be able to install at all and allow
dual boot so that it's conservative WRT the existing Windows system?
 
  - once installed, will the CentOS6 system be able to mount read-WRITE
the NTFS partition (even if I have to install an alternative
repository)? Read-only would be useless to us.
 
  - why not, is there a way I could get success with the CentOS7? If
not, the CentOS6 is fine with me.
 
 Those are the pre-requisites for me to run CentOS6 on this - ah-hum -
 slow system and be happy with it.
 
 Any though?
 

NTFS needs package ntfs-3g from EPEL.


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